Lotta people are confused by what an armor does. An armor doesn’t have damage at all. Your damage remains exactly the same what armor does is eliminate or overcome resistance so more of your damage gets applied to hell but the damage is still the same that’s why nothing shows up in the tool cap when you put and Armour on now. Is also conditional so I can’t really show up in the tooltip, but you should see an immediate reaction in the numbers i.e. after nine attacks you should be at max damage. Then you should stay at max. For the rest of the fight so it’s gonna look like It’s doing more damage. It isn’t necessarily doing more damage. In fact that robot is start that high so and is not nearly as effective as it would be say against a queen which has massive the place where an armor shine is when you’re target has a lot of resistance a lot of BRER fire, cry and poison, depending on what your attack is if your attack is Electric, which I presume I didn’t notice I presume you’re using an electric I didn’t. You didn’t show your bill, but I’m also presuming you’re using science for you don’t have grounded you’re using electric so your attack is mostly going against ER and that robots lowest resist is ER and it’s not that high not like other bosses in the game land armor is not helping a lot But it is still helping. Do you want to see a true test of what’s better look at the damage numbers you get compare them and say one of the scavengers at Emmett mountain 3200 damage this 3200 energy resist at 3200 poison resist that 1000 radiation resist although I occasionally see them with as immune to radiation but normally it’s 1000 so the same attack with that autoracks with an armor versus furious would almost certainly show an armor as the clear winner Marinato because again you already have 75 armor penetration from incisor adding 50 more on your weapon is it’s multiplicative and armor is well mostly so adding 50 more on the weapon is only gonna bring it to 87.5 they only gain 12.5% our penetration by putting the whole first star into it, but I still say it’s going to make a difference on something with high armor high resistancebecause more of your actual damage is trying to be hitting the health bar and less of it is going to be hitting the resistances
@@ZOMBIESrEMO_Official I think the reason furious is basically the same as AA in your tests is because maybe 1st person has a cap on damage/fire rate. Fire rate with auto weapons is slower in 1st since the last update. Furious vs AA 3rd person there is a huge difference so there must be a cap of some kind
Yeah, I can craft an armor, but I cannot craft furious and I kinda wanna put furious on any axis in chainsaws cause it seems to me like with the high rate of attack anywhere it matters like I’m bosses you’re gonna be at 45% damage buff you already have 75% armor ignore from incisoradding more anti-armor only brings you to 87 1/2 right so you know some raw damage seems to me like raw damage is the way to go, but I can’t craft it. I haven’t seen one on a vendor.
@@ZOMBIESrEMO_Official if you can attain 100% armor pierce then everything would just be obliterated you can test it yourself by attacking a super low resistance enemy then going to a higher level one and hit it with the same stuff you had on and you’ll see a insane damage difference, that the same reason why fire does so much to human enemies or poison does so much, because human enemies do not have resistances to it.
@@sirdavenfisterrutherford396 What?! I didn't know that. All these years I've been playing with weighted limb mods, Incisor, anti-armor, armor penetrating mods, etc. I had no clue the cap was 75%. I figured it was around 90%.
Yeah Aristocrats is goated, use it in most of my weapons. The benefit over troubleshooters is that it gives the +50% on more than just robots if you are using it outside of raids as well.
For sure how you could tell anything with pounders founders by far is doing all the damage here all these guys testing this with founders and that with founders just silly founders is ranking up into four digit numbers of damage you would never see anywhere near that much with just serious versus an armor, and then you would actually see the real damage and which one was doing more of it
By founders you mean pounders right? Yes, pounders is the effect that makes the most difference, but you could also talk of 2nd star power attack or 3rd star strength. If it is all the same in both cases, you can see if changing the first effect makes difference. I allways use autoaxe on 3rd person, Im sure that also makes some difference. What I can asure you, is that I was using a furious, power attack, strength and pounders autoaxe and then got an anti armor mod which I applied. I still shred it moments, but I was surprised that furious was even faster...like, some seconds faster, which means that pounders is what is needed to kill the boss in a minute, but still, it was clearly faster to kill it with furious than antiarmor. I just dont change it again to furious, cause I still kill it in under 1 min and antiarmor mod is being rare to get even with dozens of first raid bosses, and for daily use, other than very tanky enemies, obviously antiarmor will be better. And of course they will patch this, so furious autoaxe will be only good for bosses like Ear, and probably for those, antiarmor will still win, I think
Oh my God, dude I rarely do. I learn anything watching these videos, but it never occurred to me. I usually throw tons of cams and shit once the vendor is all you know cashed out for the day I used to sell them, but nobody’s buying except certain cams and I so I just throw them on the ground right in it in a bag cause I refuse to like run over to the train station just to put them in a chest Never occurred to me. Just put them on my vendor for free people will take them. I mean I’ve accidentally put shit on there for free that easily disappeared. Hell occasionally accidentally click on spoiled food and people take it and people take anything that’s free right never occurred to me to just throw all those access cams. I don’t use on the vendor for free.
Yeah low hp, furious is just more consistent and let's you run less damage perks. I only run less so I can run weight reduction so I don't hit the carry weight cap so fast lol.
@@ZOMBIESrEMO_Official no executioners is just better its multiplicative dmg and furious is additive and with pounders too another multiplicative it gets pretty crazy its alot faster than furious
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The error on my part was doing it in first person as you actually do more damage in third person my mistake.
I noticed that you showed way more damage with Furious but the time to kill once the shields were down was the exact same between it and AA. Weird.
@@artnelson3402 because I was in first person, it's way faster in third person.
@@ZOMBIESrEMO_Official Interesting. Thanks
You were in 1st person for both tests. However furious was actually like 1.5 seconds faster
Lotta people are confused by what an armor does. An armor doesn’t have damage at all. Your damage remains exactly the same what armor does is eliminate or overcome resistance so more of your damage gets applied to hell but the damage is still the same that’s why nothing shows up in the tool cap when you put and Armour on now. Is also conditional so I can’t really show up in the tooltip, but you should see an immediate reaction in the numbers i.e. after nine attacks you should be at max damage. Then you should stay at max. For the rest of the fight so it’s gonna look like It’s doing more damage. It isn’t necessarily doing more damage. In fact that robot is start that high so and is not nearly as effective as it would be say against a queen which has massive the place where an armor shine is when you’re target has a lot of resistance a lot of BRER fire, cry and poison, depending on what your attack is if your attack is Electric, which I presume I didn’t notice I presume you’re using an electric I didn’t. You didn’t show your bill, but I’m also presuming you’re using science for you don’t have grounded you’re using electric so your attack is mostly going against ER and that robots lowest resist is ER and it’s not that high not like other bosses in the game land armor is not helping a lot But it is still helping. Do you want to see a true test of what’s better look at the damage numbers you get compare them and say one of the scavengers at Emmett mountain 3200 damage this 3200 energy resist at 3200 poison resist that 1000 radiation resist although I occasionally see them with as immune to radiation but normally it’s 1000 so the same attack with that autoracks with an armor versus furious would almost certainly show an armor as the clear winner Marinato because again you already have 75 armor penetration from incisor adding 50 more on your weapon is it’s multiplicative and armor is well mostly so adding 50 more on the weapon is only gonna bring it to 87.5 they only gain 12.5% our penetration by putting the whole first star into it, but I still say it’s going to make a difference on something with high armor high resistancebecause more of your actual damage is trying to be hitting the health bar and less of it is going to be hitting the resistances
@@ZOMBIESrEMO_Official I think the reason furious is basically the same as AA in your tests is because maybe 1st person has a cap on damage/fire rate. Fire rate with auto weapons is slower in 1st since the last update. Furious vs AA 3rd person there is a huge difference so there must be a cap of some kind
I hope one day I can have as strong as a set up as you have going on great vid!
Well Pounders is broken atm, Bethesda will likely nerf it.
Yeah, I can craft an armor, but I cannot craft furious and I kinda wanna put furious on any axis in chainsaws cause it seems to me like with the high rate of attack anywhere it matters like I’m bosses you’re gonna be at 45% damage buff you already have 75% armor ignore from incisoradding more anti-armor only brings you to 87 1/2 right so you know some raw damage seems to me like raw damage is the way to go, but I can’t craft it. I haven’t seen one on a vendor.
So furious is better it looks like tho? I have anti armor and I thought that was the peak. Good video bro. Subbed💪🏽
Yes it is better
Thats cuz armor pen peaks at 75% you cant get past that so by running max incisor, the anti armor legendary perk does literally nothing
Funny because all these other youtubers swore by stacking pen for melee lol.
@@ZOMBIESrEMO_Official if you can attain 100% armor pierce then everything would just be obliterated you can test it yourself by attacking a super low resistance enemy then going to a higher level one and hit it with the same stuff you had on and you’ll see a insane damage difference, that the same reason why fire does so much to human enemies or poison does so much, because human enemies do not have resistances to it.
@@sirdavenfisterrutherford396 What?! I didn't know that. All these years I've been playing with weighted limb mods, Incisor, anti-armor, armor penetrating mods, etc. I had no clue the cap was 75%. I figured it was around 90%.
It’s wich minigun mode?
Question can you make reflective mods? If so how much for 4 of them? If not that's ok good video
Wow I wish I could be that good
if u ever have to much sentinels im here
Lol I just crafted them as I need them.
Bro. Try Aristocrats. I think we've all been sleeping on Aristocrat's. If you can get and keep your caps above 30K it does hella damage.
You can just use troubleshooters for the same damage.
sure
Yeah Aristocrats is goated, use it in most of my weapons.
The benefit over troubleshooters is that it gives the +50% on more than just robots if you are using it outside of raids as well.
Only 1 problem, I'm forever poor because of how much mods I buy from vendors lol.
@@ZOMBIESrEMO_Official That is SO not my issue, I never find mods I want at any price
miniguns Vampire/limb/90?
For sure how you could tell anything with pounders founders by far is doing all the damage here all these guys testing this with founders and that with founders just silly founders is ranking up into four digit numbers of damage you would never see anywhere near that much with just serious versus an armor, and then you would actually see the real damage and which one was doing more of it
By founders you mean pounders right? Yes, pounders is the effect that makes the most difference, but you could also talk of 2nd star power attack or 3rd star strength. If it is all the same in both cases, you can see if changing the first effect makes difference. I allways use autoaxe on 3rd person, Im sure that also makes some difference. What I can asure you, is that I was using a furious, power attack, strength and pounders autoaxe and then got an anti armor mod which I applied. I still shred it moments, but I was surprised that furious was even faster...like, some seconds faster, which means that pounders is what is needed to kill the boss in a minute, but still, it was clearly faster to kill it with furious than antiarmor. I just dont change it again to furious, cause I still kill it in under 1 min and antiarmor mod is being rare to get even with dozens of first raid bosses, and for daily use, other than very tanky enemies, obviously antiarmor will be better. And of course they will patch this, so furious autoaxe will be only good for bosses like Ear, and probably for those, antiarmor will still win, I think
Oh my God, dude I rarely do. I learn anything watching these videos, but it never occurred to me. I usually throw tons of cams and shit once the vendor is all you know cashed out for the day I used to sell them, but nobody’s buying except certain cams and I so I just throw them on the ground right in it in a bag cause I refuse to like run over to the train station just to put them in a chest Never occurred to me. Just put them on my vendor for free people will take them. I mean I’ve accidentally put shit on there for free that easily disappeared. Hell occasionally accidentally click on spoiled food and people take it and people take anything that’s free right never occurred to me to just throw all those access cams. I don’t use on the vendor for free.
executioners is better because of the bug that tends to happen when it gets low hp
Yeah low hp, furious is just more consistent and let's you run less damage perks. I only run less so I can run weight reduction so I don't hit the carry weight cap so fast lol.
@@ZOMBIESrEMO_Official no executioners is just better its multiplicative dmg and furious is additive and with pounders too another multiplicative it gets pretty crazy its alot faster than furious
If that's the case you should upload proof of concept. Keep in mind I wasn't in 3rd person the damage with furious is 3x faster in third person.
It's actually not better, just tested it. ruclips.net/video/eOiEAj5xi5I/видео.html
How would troubleshooters do? 50% damage to robots