I think anyone who has basic shop training ought to know you don't wear or attach yourself to jewelry or loose dangling things that can get caught in machines. Can you imagine a table saw getting a bite of a heavy glove? Yikes!
agreed with everything . You forgot one thing. Wearing gloves close to moving equipment is not good. When your gloved hand gets caught in the machine, it will pull your hand in with serious injuries. When your bare hand gets caught you may be able to quickly pull back and survive with a scratch. Never wear gloves around moving parts. Don't ask me how I know.
You don't wear gloves near moving machinery on a sawmill...putting anything near a moving bandwheel is dangerous. Long hear is far more dangerous around moving machinery than a glove is.
Not going to ask, but can only imagine. First aid is a challenge if the person is wearing gloves. One can never assess the damage a person's hands receive when they are wearing gloves until they are removed. Sometimes those seconds count if the fingers can be saved.
@@TheOldJarhead I think they’re smart enough to keep it away the moving blades and other moving parts. Long haired people work at mills everywhere with no ill effects. Girls know to and how to put that hair up out of the way.
You're right and wrong. It greatly depends on the nature of the movement. If the movement would cause your hand to be drawn in to a pinch then an implement should be used rather than your hand in a glove. 35 years in manual work mostly with machinery has taught me never to rush and never cut corners.
Emerald, First of all, I'm old enough to be your grandpa. One of MY grandpa's favorite sayings was.... Those of us that understand...no explanation is necessary. For those of us that don't understand...no explanation will do. You and your sister got this. I enjoy your episodes. Keep doing what you are doing. Doug
Well said. I will use that saying with people who do not understand the bible rightly divided. Thanks. Those who understand how to rightly divide the word, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not understand the bible rightly divided, no explanation will do. I like this one also: I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.
@@dkgrace6743 sure, but the first "saying" states outright that there's no need to explain. Which is silly, because we explain stuff all the time, and the thing with that is... it works. Will it work with some people that just aren't able to understand, or don't care to do so? No, probably not. But it won't work if the explanation is not a good one either (hence why you'll find people rejecting some stuff in the Bible...), so it's not just the act of explaining, the explanation itself has to be a good one too.
For cold weather operations, a trick we used in the military was to wear liners and shells. the liner would keep your hand warm, the shell protected from the wind. If you use a leather shell, and get it wet, let the pair dry on your hands, they will be form fitting and allow for more dexterity. I saw a claim that wearing gloves could cause you to have your hand pulled in if the glove were to catch, but it can also allow you to slide you hand out before fingers are caught. I wore gloves when working at a lumber mill, to protect from splinters, but it was a larger set up and on a faster scale. Use what protection you feel necessary
@@dozer1642 Just think of a Gemini or apollo program they all have guards over the toggle switches. Even today with modern touch screens they have guards and lockouts for good reason. Also the gloves they wear are far more worse to work with but they manage. Anybody can manage. Some gloves are designed to aid in gripping Green wood and when it gets wet too which is when it is more to get way from the handler and end up hitting someone or themselves.
@@terrancevangemert7508 my question stands. If you haven’t ran a woodmizer sawmill, you don’t know what it takes to make the band spin. It’s not a toggle switch.
@@dozer1642 Doesn't change the fact that sixty cents of rubber will protect one in a thousand people losing a body part they're attached to. Dude, your country just ruined it's economy for the next two centuries because one in two million people might die from a flu and you're bitching and griping about a bit of plastic that'll make something significantly safer?
I've been working wood for roughly 60 years, mostly furniture making , and any time I handle hardwood in the rough, I wear gloves. At one time I worked in a shop that retailed exotic hardwoods and some of those will fester in minutes. Milling softwoods and soft hardwoods go bare handed if you want. But there are certain woods I regularly use where I wouldn't think of it. Mesquite comes to mind. Flatsawn walnut can get righteous brittle too. When dressing out (jointing, planing, cut to rough length) maple, birch, white oak, and others the machined edges can slice your skin like a knife. Just sayin'
I’ve on,y ever used gloves once when handling rough sawn Cooktown Ironwood, it too festers as soon as you get a splinter, and it’s the only time and only exception I wore gloves.
Let me be the devils advocate: You can get a paper cut but doesn’t mean you have to wear gloves at the office lol If you wore oven mitts every time you approached a stove you would never know at what degree of heat they were necessary. Granted you would never burn yourself but that’s not an sound objective in life. The real objective is the experience as the finest intel.
Love your channel!, you are very good at helping us understand what a sawmill is all about. I have just finished 40 years in the trade's, I find humor in todays little boy's and Girl's whom mostly wear glove's ALL DAY LONG at work...ugh, When they forget or lose the gloves they can hardly get any work accomplished because their hands are so tender, and may I say, pretty being so soft and all. Gloves do give a person a false sense of security, but I agree there is a time and place for gloves.
Should never wear gloves with any machinery that spins. I’m so happy you girls get this and put a video out about it. Too many times I see precious men using gloves in videos to handle things that can’t even hurt themselves with. If you get caught in something that spins it’ll make it harder to remove yourself from the situation.
I don't wear gloves all the time either when I operate equipment as they can turn out to be a hindrance so good for you ladies, you do an excellent job all the time
I agree completely. I drive a flatbed truck. Most drivers use gloves when strapping and chaining. I find them a hindrance and get caught on things. I also like to have maximum dexterity and be able to feel what I'm working with. Like you said, I will use rubber gloves when I grease things but that's about it.
Don’t you just love it when your palm’s and finger tips turn black from handling rough cut oak wood all day. Lol. Stay safe out there in all your adventures. From the Pocono’s 🪵🪓
Good job of discussing the pros and cons to wearing gloves. You and your sister might also think about the wearing of rings, bracelets, and watches while working around the sawmill.
Good morning! I’m so glad I found your channel. I love that you young ladies work in something I so enjoy, making lumber and working with logs. My daughters have come to the mill and ran it as well, my wife to. I don’t wear gloves in less it’s really cold. Thank you for sharing your videos be safe and God bless
I had to laugh when I saw the title. You can tell in general who doesn't have experience working with machinery by the questions they ask. Stay safe and love your videos.
Hi Em....great video. Gloves, or no gloves....I say that people who work with wood for a living, know that one connects with the feel of the wood not having them on their hands. Me personally, after working most of my life with wood...I like bare hands the best...to me the feel of wood on bare hands is like an energy boost...its really tough to describe the connection to those people that don't work with it... Anyone getting slivers a lot either has soft hands, or just plain don't know how to handle wood right....being a mill operator has way more skill involved then being a college grad in my opinion....maybe I'm prejudice tho...I started working in a mill young myself... Love your patience in helping others understand better this line of work...its not for idiots or slow people...
I tell my girls that they can do what they want and I use your channel to help them understand they can do it. Thank you for your time showing girls are awesome.
I am a bespoke furniture maker with 4 1/2 decades of experience working with machinery of all kinds and can tell you she speaks the truth. The worst accidents I witnessed were people who wore hand protection of all kinds. It is common sense that folks are more mindful and careful when "safety" procedures are all about being aware of the present danger and foregoing the advice of those whose knowledge is limited to things other than hands on training. Good on you, young lady!
i agree. i'm a health n safety officer in the uk and when it comes to machine inspections and PPE, you allways take into consideration who's using the equipment. if the operator has training and a "considerable amount of experiance", then to remove a safety guard or inspection hatch (because of access and material issues) isn't a problem, such as a grinder guard or lets say a fixed face shield on a lathe. if they only started a few days ago, (johnny one week) then i would reprimand the operator and give the owner a improvement notice by law. in other words experiance counts. GLOVES. i would NEVER recommend to where gloves on a percussion, rotary or reciprocating machines like a saw or drill. iv'e seen it where the operator has been DRAWN IN because their glove got caught up. better to cut ya finger then lose a hand or arm.
I have a couple of comments about what you said. First, there is no such thing as common sense. There is knowing, and there is not knowing. That is why we have something called "Training". Second, "safety" procedures (and I'm not sure why you put the word "safety" in quotations) is NOT just about being aware of the present dangers. Safety procedures are all about knowing what the hazards are and knowing how to control them so they don't injure you. Most workplace injuries occur as a result of complacency on behalf of the worker. Case in point. Read Kurt Craig's comment. He proves my point with his ridiculous comment that an experienced operator is perfectly safe to remove safety guards and devices. Absolutely not. That is how injuries occur. The operator thinks they know better and they eventually lose.
@@kurtcraig3421 That is absolutely absurd. I am a health and safety officer as well, and to make a statement that it is ok to remove safety guards and devices if the operator has experience is beyond dumb. Especially in response to someone who is advocating for hands on training vs safety procedures. What exactly do you think happens when a new worker sees someone removing safety guards? They think that it is ok to do the same because the person training them just did it. Hands on training of the kind you guys are talking about perpetuates and entrenches bad habits. That's one of the reasons there are safety procedures.
@@tchevrier Interesting comment. I would point out we are talking about using gloves (or not using gloves, as the case here) when and where appropriate according to the individual risk assessment; these folks have done this kind of work for a period of time sufficient to assume they are reasonably qualified to make common sense decisions with respect to their own safety. I still say, good ya young lady!
I absolutely agree with everything you just said. I have been sawing for 26 years and only wear gloves when my hands are cold. One rarely, if at all will get splinters from green wood. I have never injured myself except for a scratch or two changing a blade (I do wear leather gloves when I "uncoil" and "coil up" the blade for transport), but other than that, no gloves. If you are sawing eastern white pine, the pitch you get on your hands is a natural antiseptic, so if you get a splinter it will never get infected... One thing I learned over the years is if your hands are covered in pine pitch, you can get them clean with butter! (real butter) granted it's a waste of butter but it works. Liberate the hands people! I love the feel of the wood, each species has its own characteristic.
As an electrian working without gloves for a lot of years, my hands took a toll. I've been buying 3M gloves from the supple house that I can actually work with ,at $10 a pair they stand up to a Lotta of wear n tear.
You mentioned this subject once before. I believed you then, and still do now! 👍 The only way to get clean, safe hands is to not work. So I guess those folks don't know what work is. Good luck, and keep working! 👍
Getting your hand caught In Rotating equipment without a glove also causes serious injury. Proper machine guarding and training is what saves you from that. Gloves are for abrasion protection, the first time a splintered cant slips and rips her hand open or takes the end of a finger off she will understand why every big sawmill in North America requires all production workers to wear gloves on the production floor.
@@Average1212 You are less likely to get a bare hand caught in equipment, which gloves will cause, Americans are obsessed with safety rules, so they can not think for themselves, and end up in more problems than other nationalities. This is caused by ridiculous controlling government regulations, that the sheep allowed, and have now dumbed the people down.
@@grancitodos7318 I have worked in mill maintenance and construction for 20 years. I can tell you right now that 99% of hand injuries are not caused by getting caught in equipment. The vast majority of hand injuries from line workers are abrasion and cuts both of which are prevented by good gloves. Almost all big industrial companies have glove policies because it saves them money on reduced down time. This is simple math.
100% agree with every aspect of what she said.I would also like to push the point that it IS a matter of choice and not safety because things like gloves and loose clothing are one in the same, hazardous. I use gloves when I am transferring my plywood from trailer to shop because I can move faster without worry of splinters which my helper gets evry time he helps me, and I always offer him gloves beforehand which he refuses. I don't often wear gloves milling, but I do use them when I just moving lumber and mostly because I'd rather not get dirty hands. Keep up the great job ladies!!!
Yes, I agree about the reasons for not wearing gloves, even in the cold my hands stay warm, but when I get wood from the sawmill I do get tiny splinters. What does worry me is that you don't wear your hair up, gorgeous as it is, I'd rather see it under control! The saw which I consider most dangerous is the chop or pull over (which you don't have) because you cannot see the blade, and it wasn't fun spending 3 hours in surgery to have tendons repaired!
You know I've worked around power equipment electrical chemicals for more than 50 years and think your reasoning about wearing gloves is spot on. It really comes down to a matter of common sense
I just came across this video I had to comment . What I can say is just do what works for you, most of those know-it-alls don't even have a clue what a blade is not seen a mill in person. I own wooodworking businesses too so yes I do what works for me, it's just about common sense and been careful. God bless take care you and your family .. awesome channel btw.
There is no such thing as common sense. And when it comes to safety, especially for a business, "be careful" is an excuse for not having a proper safety program in place.
I have similar views on gloves for the last 40+ years of working life. One thing though,back when I did more outdoors I would layer a good thin glove inside a good warmer glove,when it's -10F handling cold steel just removing the warm glove but keeping a little protection is a damn site better than nothing for a short time. Thumbs up to you!
Smart and safe,we do the same at our mill, although it is a larger mill , making slats for pallets,mill has been here since the 1800s, eldorado county town of eldorado county,so old school is our huge machinery,butt runs like a new car. No glove's here.we do the same.good work jade and emerald and little big man u guys bust a move.pops and mom are pretty darn good too.gramps is super smart too.latet Devo on the chop.
EB: nothing but respect for these ladies, there is unfortunately a huge percentage of the population that will not grow up with your clear sense of purpose, your knowledge (on anything), your contribution to your family's business. I am positive that your experience and that of your folks has built up an understanding of best pros-and-cons of safety, efficiency and individual comfort for the tasks you handle. I love your channel, and your presentations are very instructive about your work. And as a side note, it is fascinating to learn more about all the family as bits of personal world come into the bigger picture of what you share. thank you for your YT efforts.
You answered my question, I just seen you handling lumber barehanded and from past experience, I worked at a couple of mills when I was much younger and I was getting splinters and slivers all the time. Well, as always, great video.
Gloves are only necessary if you say they are necessary. You and your sister are doing the work so you say what is necessary and what is not necessary. I can only give you two your props because you work your butts off and that is very rare amongst kids your age today. You two just keep kicking ass! Y'all Rock!!
I work in cnc laser cutting and almost never wear gloves, even when handling freshly cut metal. Yes the metal is hot, hot enough to burn instantly on skin contact but if you're smart enough to not touch the hot parts you don't get burnt. And as you said, gloves can bring a false sense of confidence, with hot metal you WILL find that one tiny hole in your glove because that's exactly which part of your hand will grab the hottest part of the metal. For chemical contact you're also right, nitrile gloves is the way to go although I would suggest thicker, "reusable" ones. Those thin black ones WILL eventually bleed chemicals through if you're working on a long cleaning process.
You girls could put 100% of the neigh sayers to shame with your work ethic. Your choice to handle your work as you see fit. Keep up the great videos and thanks for taking us along.
I did have a bit of OSHA eye shock when I saw some of your more recent videos and and the lack of gloves. Or eye protection. I did watch this video and listened. I have worked in factories and actually two sawmills in the early 70's and you are spot on both the benefits and drawbacks to glove use as an operator-sawyer. Not all use is equal. Sometimes they are appropriate. Others just a meat sack. Forward to a career in the pipelines for a major oil company that insisted on glove use 24/7 outside of the office, was a nonsensical extreme. I would add another arrow to your quiver, is the lack of better fitting gloves for women industrial workers.
you can buy cut resistant gloves that are pretty inexpensive and are fairly thin. Also for in the winter you can buy a snug fitting knit glove for when using the mill. They are quite warm, and then if needed you can slip on a larger glove over top. Also you can buy safety covers for certain switches if you can concerned about accidentally turning it on.
Safety covers are good. Gloves around moving parts - cut resistant or not - not necessarily. They can be grabbed and pull your hand into the mechanism dealing much more damage than you'd get without a glove.
@@tomaszwota1465 I've never subscribed to absolutes. When it comes to safety, it's all about risk assessment and hazard control. The thing about people claiming that you should never wear gloves around moving parts is somewhat a generic and absolute statement. First and foremost, we have to ask why are we getting our hands that close to moving parts. That in itself is probably a better question than should we or should we not be wearing gloves. That said, when handling a sharp blade, I would definitely suggest a cut resistant glove AFTER the machine has been locked out and tested so that there is no chance it can start up. That said, I have seen a tattered glove get caught and pull someone's hand into a drill chuck.
You females' are some of the hardest working girls I have ever seen!! First of all working at a sawmill is hard work......Just keep up the great work ethic and the awesome videos. Thanks
Great piece.Well explained when talking about the pro's and con'a. If you add your sizes people could send you gloves to try. Personally, i have a finger set with joint protection and a finger tipless set when using tools. These keep the frost bite off and work well. When its really cold, i have heated pockets. So no gloves but a way to warm them.
They have probably learn to avoid splinter by not running their hands ALONG the wood, like letting the wood move between their fingers when the mill is ejecting a piece of wood.
Wearing gloves at work should be an option, not a forced rule. As a craftsman I know that hands want to "breathe" while you are using them. I wear gloves, when necessary but try to keep them off as long as I can. So what Emerald was saying makes totally sense (at least for me).
Hard to beat a good fitting pair of leather or pig skin gloves. You can still push buttons and flip switches ect, and still gives protection. My father is a retired carpenter. When I was young, he preached about not wearing gloves around power saws & planers. He’s seen some guys loose fingers with the cloth jersey gloves especially.
We had a friend help us cut lumber on the wood mizer one time, he showed up wearing Stihl boots, Stihl chaps, Stihl jacket, Stihl ear muffs, Stihl helmet with face shield, Stihl safety glasses and yes, Stihl gloves !
Thanks Emerald for another informative episode. Bulky gloves are a hindrance with motorcycling too, but if you wear thin silk gloves as a base layer, you don’t need heavy gloves. Nice and warm. Camping stores should have them maybe.👍
Gloves wear out too fast. Not worth the waste of money. I also do pretty much everything without gloves cause they are in the way. As you said, you cant get your fingers into tight places. I end up taking them off all the time so I can work. Just not worth it. Small splinters will happen but its worth it not using gloves.
I very rarely say to much to anyone about how they do things, if it works for you, by all means that should be done, when I was tail sawing, or taking away, I had my leather palmed gloves, and that worked for me, you produce good content, that's all that matters to me, Thanks for sharing, Emerald
Good point with the controls. Other than that I'm not convinced. Gloves are good to have on. The coated polyester knit gloves are not bulky provide a good grip and protect hands
Situational awareness is the best safety tool. Keeping your mind on the job. I am a flatbed trucker and only wear gloves to keep my hands warm or clean.
Completely understand not wearing gloves, gloves, and moving machinery don't go together... that was the first thing I noticed about you guys and I'm 100% with you. I changed a lot of metal bandsaw blades and you don't wanna wear gloves you don't want to get stuck or hung up on a blade with a glove on.
I worked in Carpentry for 20 years, and run a sawmill, and cut firewood for personal use. I never wore gloves even in the winter up here in Canada. Now I pull a desk job 4 days a week, its nice to be out of the weather, but my hands got soft, now I wear gloves all the time. I didn't wear them for a lot of the same reasons you mention (almost impossible to grab nails from a pouch with gloves on. Now I seem to hurt my hands more, so I wear them more, just last weekend I was splitting firewood and my glove got caught on a bolt and my thumb got pinched, I may not have got the injury if not wearing the gloves, but it may have been much worse had I not. After 25 years of running saws and other machines I still have all my digits (so far!) stay comfortable and work safe! keep up the good work.
Interesting video. Here in Canada we wear mittens with a velcro "hood" that covers the fingers. When we need to use controls we simply peel back the cover, do what needs to be done, then back goes the finger toque. Pretty sure you have them there. As far as flicking a toggle switch inadvertently, like any power tool caution is paramount. Have a wonderful 4th of July.
I'm from Maine and I wear thin gloves in the winter so I can still feel and have dexterity. I grew up on a farm and spent 15+ years in the Army and I'm a 2nd generation truck driver who works in construction. I've done everything from baling hay, putting on tire chains at 40 below zero, handling green timber building bridges on logging roads to cutting with a chain saw. Wearing the right gloves for the job will save your hands a significant amount of beating in the long run. The gloves I usually wear aren't much different than batters gloves you'd see in baseball
I worked in Construction for decades when younger. Bicycle gloves are pretty awesome for most work. They leave your finger tips open to manipulate controls and leather palms protect you from most splinters and blisters. Old thin t-shirt tied around head to keep long hair back and protection from sun cover your neck. useful when framing in hot sun of SoCal.
About gloves and splinters, as a retired builder, and woodworker most people get splinters in their hands from sliding their hands along the wood. You grab the wood solidly move it where you want it, relieve your grip and grab solidly it in the new location, etc. Never ever slide your hands along the lumber. I explain that to each new helper, and laborer after they get a splinter, that way they remember!
I have a little story about safery precautions. When I was in high school we have labor training based on local bakery - so yet we was unskilled we just carry flour bags to the intake of floor bunker. It was looks like big meat grinder and above it, on the white painted wall, was strange big brown splats. Foreman told us that it was blood of one the worker who accidently put his arm into the bunker intake. His hand was almost destroyed and blood sprayed all around. They didn't repaint the wall because this was best way to show how important safety precautions is. After thirty years I still remember this painted wall.
I worked in a veneer mill, and when the wood was fresh and still wet, we weren't required to wear gloves. But, after the veneer was dried, we had to wear gloves, because dry wood produced to most splinters. When the wood is fresh cut, like at this mill, the fibers are still soft and flexible, so you don't get many splinters.
As an Aussie I spent thousands of hours in footy short whilst using a chain saw and I can definitely agree that you feel more safe then you actually are when you wear protection
I find it crazy (but not surprising) that people want to give you advice, who have probably never run a machine like you do, or handled rough sawed lumber like you do. I hope it all just goes in one ear and out the other for you. You're doing a pretty cool thing, sharing your day to day with us, and I must say I'm rather fascinated by it all. So people being pushy and giving you advice is quite inappropriate, and they should probably go do something with their lives themselves rather than judging people that work as hard as you all do. I'm glad I came across your channel!
Constructive criticism from others with experience - nothing wrong with that. We all have to learn new things , but maybe we don't have to learn the hard way !
Your explanations make sense to me because I've worked in construction most of life. There tasks you have to do where gloves cannot be worn, like grabbing 1 3/8 inch nails or 1 1/4 inch screws to fasten sheetrock. You have to feel the orientation of the nails/screws so you can get it ready to hammer in or screw in the fasteners. When you work around dangerous machine you have to develop a higher sense of awareness ALL of the time. When I in the National Guard, we learned risky skills like parachuting, rappelling from a hovering helicopter and so on. Like with parachute jumps once you step out of the plane you are by yourself. If the chute doesn't open correctly, you have to solve the problem
You could use shooters/hunting gloves for the winter where just your trigger finger can be removed from the glove so you can push buttons and flip switches without your hands freezing. A lot of mechanics use them while working out side.
I've worked in shops and industrial environments. I've also done my fair share of skiing. When you discussed situational awareness, most people won't be able to understand that. You do have a difficult environment to work in and I can only wish you the best.
Totally agree with you, wearing gloves are not recommended by most wood workers and is actually considered a safety hazard, as they can get caught and pull your hand into danger. Of course as another poster commented, jewelry and long hair can also get caught in moving parts and machinery :) Best of luck and stay safe, keep up the good work and videos.
Thanks for the explanation on why you do not wear gloves my neighbor just turned me on to your channel today and that was something that was making me scratch my head the first time I seen you handling the sawed logs.
I was wearing out a pair of the soft mechanix style gloves while sawing wood with chainsaw every 6-8 cords (in the finger tips from handling wood). Switched to the all-leather Firm Grip glove from HD, and haven't wore out a pair yet, 32 cords later. The velcro isn't too useful anymore...
I admire and respect your way of doing things. After watching you work, I am convinced that you are doing great. Remain safe and keep the videos coming.
Great overview on pros and cons of gloves! I like wearing fingerless gloves (just fingertips exposed) for non chemical work when I am in a cold shop. They provide warmth without compromising dexterity.
Hi Emerald, Thanks for this video. That has been one of my recurring questions, and now I'll stop asking. BTW, thanks for protecting your hands from chemicals. I've had liver failure from that and it's no picnic.
Retired now but I worked in electronics and was around all kinds of power distribution panels and sources. I refused to wear jewelry, even a wedding ring. I seen 2 people get hurt. One with a ring and one with a tie. The tie was going through a big CAD plotter (special large printer). It did not differentiate between pulling back and forth a big paper and his tie. Also, I have a brother with 9 fingers. On a cold day, the table saw caught his glove. You are doing right.
My favorite “gloves” are the white, cotton cheap gloves you can buy at Tractor Supply. They are surprisingly warm, fit snug and I can pick up most things with them on. (Just don’t get them wet)
I only wear work gloves for the cold. Cutting or chopping wood I generally don't wear them as the workout is keeping me warm. Handling steel when it's cold is 1 of the few times I wear them. Some splinters over Autumn/Winter is just to let you know you've been working.
I think it's just a matter of personal preference. When I was framing houses full-time no one on my crew wore gloves, but the last 20 years doing metalwork I wore them 7 days a week. Now that I'm running a sawmill, I still wear them full time. Keep up the good work!
The conversation surrounding gloves brings me back to firefighting basic school. One of the students in our class complained about having to wear gloves and tie knots with gloves. As a result, our instructor required us to wear gloves the next class and the next test we took. No one complained about needing to wear the PPE again.
As a Dive Instructor, we have the same "no gloves" policy when taking divers out, because they are more likely to be lazy with their buoyancy control and land on the coral. They'd use their gloves hands to stop themselves from hitting the coral, resulting in MORE coral damage. They'd also be enticed to touch or man-handle the very sensitive coral with gloves on, resulting in MORE coral damage.. We prevent these behaviors by enforcing a "no gloves" policy, thus forcing divers to improve their Buoyancy skills and not be tempted in intentionally touching coral, some of which will sting. ...My 2 cents...
I don't wear gloves either and I don't get splinters. But when it's very cold and my fingers are cold I wear wool knit gloves they're very thin and they're not bulky to get in the way of operating equipment. It really helps a lot but it's not the answer the cold hands sooner or later if you need to get them warm and that's just the way it is but the wall neck gloves help so much. Be safe and thank you for sharing
I do volunteer work in a manufacturing setting where we have power saws, drill presses, routers, sanders, etc. Signs are posted on some machines NOT to wear gloves (as a result of an accident from wearing gloves while using a drill press). I have used brake cleaner and other chemicals for years to clean my hands. I recently learned that such chemicals can permeate our skin and some can build up in our system with possible long term health effects. Think, for example, of seasick patches, some hormone treatments, and other transdermal patches that release the drugs thru the skin.
Here in the West I wear gloves because we have pitchy “resinous” woods that will get pitch all over our hands. Also Douglas fir can have little micro slivers if bugs get under the bark and shred it into little slivers. If it wasn’t for that, I probably wouldn’t wear gloves either.
You and your entire family are professionals and excellent at your jobs. Any idiots that are bashing on you for anything at all, especially something as trivial as your decision to not wear gloves, are most likely 30 year olds sitting in their underwear in their Mom's basement. You keep being you and making your own decisions. Those of us that enjoy your content will never bash on you.
Or maybe it’s someone like me who has 35 years experience running Woodmizer sawmills as a full time business. Someone like me who has seen what a springing bandsaw blade can do to a man’s face. Or someone like me who does wear gloves and has still had plenty of blood loss over the years. I think I encourage this family as much as anyone. I just choose to do it in a responsible way. I for one have never thought of scare tissue as a badge of honor. At least not when it’s derived from foolish carelessness.
Gloves will lessen impact and further longevity. As a mechanic I didnt start wearing rubber gloves until my dad died of a chemical exposure through his hands. While gloves largely are not necessary in a sawmill, I would be wearing them when moving wood by hand in quantity. Nothing like a full day on the saw and splitter when your hands at night are the only thing that feel like they werent worked, not to mention are clean enough to eat off of even after the harshest sesh. To me gloves keep my hands healthy and the lady happy, but thats largely due to automotive lol
I've known grown men with less work ethic than you young ladies. And you're both smart and obviously independent, all the things you need to succeed. Your parents must be very, very proud. Almost to bursting, right? Love the channel girls, you do you, ignore the bots and we'll tag along for the ride.👍
As someone who runs a furniture making wood shop I never wear gloves for very similar reason. The main thing is you need to feel the wood and the grain when trying to get boards flat. I wear gloves when using a chainsaw or handling fire wood or when using some chemicals. But mostly when using the machines I don’t wear gloves.
I have an uncle who is in his 80's now. He was a master with a metal lathe. That master wanted to do some filing one day and left his gloves on. The lathe took the glove off right along with his ring finger. I have my own forge. You will get burned faster in the forge with gloves than without. I wear them for certain operations, but not regular forging. I don't wear gloves around spinning parts. The saw shop that I just left has many spinning parts.
I'm a guitar player. If it's cold or I'm dealing with any dangerous machines (rare nowadays) I will wear winter gloves or work gloves as necessary. I guess the big thing is to be careful. No machine or work related thing is worth my hands. As long as long you are very careful and pay a lot of attention. You have an admirable work ethic. Cheers.
I largely agree with you about woodworking in bare hands. The one observation that i would make is that sometimes when i need to exert a lot of force with the hands, some gloves protect the skin surface so that i can use a lot more force rather than being limited by the nerve endings. But i probably just need to go get a wrench.
I agree that you are more careful when you know there is danger. When I was a carpenter, back before OSHA, we removed our saw guards on purpose. If you think that guard will save you, the time will come when it gets jammed with sawdust and doesn't work. If you know that blade is out to get you, you are much more careful.
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Long hair, long sleeves, jewelry and gloves are all risks when working around moving parts and machinery. Be safe and thanks for sharing.
you forgot neckties.
You are right sorry I didn't see what you said
I think anyone who has basic shop training ought to know you don't wear or attach yourself to jewelry or loose dangling things that can get caught in machines. Can you imagine a table saw getting a bite of a heavy glove? Yikes!
As my grandfather put it, skin tears, clothing, jewelry, even hair, does not.
I think her shirt got caught in the mill.
agreed with everything . You forgot one thing. Wearing gloves close to moving equipment is not good. When your gloved hand gets caught in the machine, it will pull your hand in with serious injuries. When your bare hand gets caught you may be able to quickly pull back and survive with a scratch. Never wear gloves around moving parts. Don't ask me how I know.
You don't wear gloves near moving machinery on a sawmill...putting anything near a moving bandwheel is dangerous. Long hear is far more dangerous around moving machinery than a glove is.
Not going to ask, but can only imagine. First aid is a challenge if the person is wearing gloves. One can never assess the damage a person's hands receive when they are wearing gloves until they are removed. Sometimes those seconds count if the fingers can be saved.
@@TheOldJarhead I think they’re smart enough to keep it away the moving blades and other moving parts. Long haired people work at mills everywhere with no ill effects. Girls know to and how to put that hair up out of the way.
What about long hair
You're right and wrong. It greatly depends on the nature of the movement. If the movement would cause your hand to be drawn in to a pinch then an implement should be used rather than your hand in a glove. 35 years in manual work mostly with machinery has taught me never to rush and never cut corners.
I am 76…built my house, sheds, barns etc over 50 years. I rarely wear gloves. Y’all are doing fine.
Completely agree, even though I have cut my hands on the blades twice. Love the dog and guy playing in the background! Thanks for not editing out.
Your young. I wore them on the freezing cold and learned to wear them on/off at the appropriate time. The joys of youth.
Emerald,
First of all, I'm old enough to be your grandpa. One of MY grandpa's favorite sayings was.... Those of us that understand...no explanation is necessary. For those of us that don't understand...no explanation will do. You and your sister got this. I enjoy your episodes. Keep doing what you are doing. Doug
Your Grandfather was a fool.....enjoy your exercise....
Well said. I will use that saying with people who do not understand the bible rightly divided. Thanks.
Those who understand how to rightly divide the word, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not understand the bible rightly divided, no explanation will do.
I like this one also:
I can explain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.
@@dkgrace6743 sure, but the first "saying" states outright that there's no need to explain. Which is silly, because we explain stuff all the time, and the thing with that is... it works.
Will it work with some people that just aren't able to understand, or don't care to do so? No, probably not. But it won't work if the explanation is not a good one either (hence why you'll find people rejecting some stuff in the Bible...), so it's not just the act of explaining, the explanation itself has to be a good one too.
@@jonathand9682 Such hubris and vanity
Well put sir
For cold weather operations, a trick we used in the military was to wear liners and shells. the liner would keep your hand warm, the shell protected from the wind. If you use a leather shell, and get it wet, let the pair dry on your hands, they will be form fitting and allow for more dexterity. I saw a claim that wearing gloves could cause you to have your hand pulled in if the glove were to catch, but it can also allow you to slide you hand out before fingers are caught. I wore gloves when working at a lumber mill, to protect from splinters, but it was a larger set up and on a faster scale. Use what protection you feel necessary
0:22 Wow ...what a stare down. Made me shiver!
Please install switch guards over your toggle switches to prevent unintentional activation of equipment regardless of wearing gloves
Have you ever operated a woodmizer band saw? Your statement is ridiculous
@@dozer1642 Just think of a Gemini or apollo program they all have guards over the toggle switches. Even today with modern touch screens they have guards and lockouts for good reason. Also the gloves they wear are far more worse to work with but they manage. Anybody can manage. Some gloves are designed to aid in gripping Green wood and when it gets wet too which is when it is more to get way from the handler and end up hitting someone or themselves.
@@terrancevangemert7508 my question stands. If you haven’t ran a woodmizer sawmill, you don’t know what it takes to make the band spin. It’s not a toggle switch.
@@dozer1642 Doesn't change the fact that sixty cents of rubber will protect one in a thousand people losing a body part they're attached to. Dude, your country just ruined it's economy for the next two centuries because one in two million people might die from a flu and you're bitching and griping about a bit of plastic that'll make something significantly safer?
@@dozer1642 of course he hasn't run a Wood Mizer, or ANY other fast moving equipment..
I agree 100%. I have worked all types of construction and run equipment. I only wore them when it was too cold to go without.
I've been working wood for roughly 60 years, mostly furniture making , and any time I handle hardwood in the rough, I wear gloves. At one time I worked in a shop that retailed exotic hardwoods and some of those will fester in minutes. Milling softwoods and soft hardwoods go bare handed if you want. But there are certain woods I regularly use where I wouldn't think of it. Mesquite comes to mind. Flatsawn walnut can get righteous brittle too. When dressing out (jointing, planing, cut to rough length) maple, birch, white oak, and others the machined edges can slice your skin like a knife. Just sayin'
She is working with green wood, you are working with dry wood. Big difference right there.
I’ve on,y ever used gloves once when handling rough sawn Cooktown Ironwood, it too festers as soon as you get a splinter, and it’s the only time and only exception I wore gloves.
Some woods might be toxic but the majority of timber isn’t
@@MrRagingrapid The sawdust is though. Not good to breathe it in!
Let me be the devils advocate:
You can get a paper cut but doesn’t mean you have to wear gloves at the office lol
If you wore oven mitts every time you approached a stove you would never know at what degree of heat they were necessary.
Granted you would never burn yourself but that’s not an sound objective in life.
The real objective is the experience as the finest intel.
Love your channel!, you are very good at helping us understand what a sawmill is all about. I have just finished 40 years in the trade's, I find humor in todays little boy's and Girl's whom mostly wear glove's ALL DAY LONG at work...ugh, When they forget or lose the gloves they can hardly get any work accomplished because their hands are so tender, and may I say, pretty being so soft and all. Gloves do give a person a false sense of security, but I agree there is a time and place for gloves.
Should never wear gloves with any machinery that spins. I’m so happy you girls get this and put a video out about it. Too many times I see precious men using gloves in videos to handle things that can’t even hurt themselves with. If you get caught in something that spins it’ll make it harder to remove yourself from the situation.
You should also avoid using your hands if at all possible. I work with bench grinders.
Thanks for the in depth explanation.
It makes alot of sense. When appropriate you are wearing them just not part of what you normally have to do.
I don't wear gloves all the time either when I operate equipment as they can turn out to be a hindrance so good for you ladies, you do an excellent job all the time
I agree completely. I drive a flatbed truck. Most drivers use gloves when strapping and chaining. I find them a hindrance and get caught on things.
I also like to have maximum dexterity and be able to feel what I'm working with.
Like you said, I will use rubber gloves when I grease things but that's about it.
Thank you for answering a question I've had since I started watching. Your logic is impeccable.
I worked with my hands all my life......Machinist, Mechanic, and Builder....I couldn`t ever work with gloves on.......Love Your Channel
Thanks for taking the time to explain why you don't wear gloves. 😊
Don’t you just love it when your palm’s and finger tips turn black from handling rough cut oak wood all day. Lol.
Stay safe out there in all your adventures.
From the Pocono’s 🪵🪓
Good job of discussing the pros and cons to wearing gloves. You and your sister might also think about the wearing of rings, bracelets, and watches while working around the sawmill.
Just keep being you, it’ll always win in the long run.
Good morning! I’m so glad I found your channel. I love that you young ladies work in something I so enjoy, making lumber and working with logs. My daughters have come to the mill and ran it as well, my wife to. I don’t wear gloves in less it’s really cold. Thank you for sharing your videos be safe and God bless
I had to laugh when I saw the title. You can tell in general who doesn't have experience working with machinery by the questions they ask. Stay safe and love your videos.
Hi Em....great video. Gloves, or no gloves....I say that people who work with wood for a living, know that one connects with the feel of the wood not having them on their hands. Me personally, after working most of my life with wood...I like bare hands the best...to me the feel of wood on bare hands is like an energy boost...its really tough to describe the connection to those people that don't work with it... Anyone getting slivers a lot either has soft hands, or just plain don't know how to handle wood right....being a mill operator has way more skill involved then being a college grad in my opinion....maybe I'm prejudice tho...I started working in a mill young myself...
Love your patience in helping others understand better this line of work...its not for idiots or slow people...
100% agree.
I tell my girls that they can do what they want and I use your channel to help them understand they can do it. Thank you for your time showing girls are awesome.
I am a bespoke furniture maker with 4 1/2 decades of experience working with machinery of all kinds and can tell you she speaks the truth. The worst accidents I witnessed were people who wore hand protection of all kinds. It is common sense that folks are more mindful and careful when "safety" procedures are all about being aware of the present danger and foregoing the advice of those whose knowledge is limited to things other than hands on training. Good on you, young lady!
I don't understand why that car ran him over, he was wearing gloves for goodness sake.
i agree. i'm a health n safety officer in the uk and when it comes to machine inspections and PPE, you allways take into consideration who's using the equipment. if the operator has training and a "considerable amount of experiance", then to remove a safety guard or inspection hatch (because of access and material issues) isn't a problem, such as a grinder guard or lets say a fixed face shield on a lathe. if they only started a few days ago, (johnny one week) then i would reprimand the operator and give the owner a improvement notice by law. in other words experiance counts.
GLOVES. i would NEVER recommend to where gloves on a percussion, rotary or reciprocating machines like a saw or drill. iv'e seen it where the operator has been DRAWN IN because their glove got caught up. better to cut ya finger then lose a hand or arm.
I have a couple of comments about what you said.
First, there is no such thing as common sense. There is knowing, and there is not knowing. That is why we have something called "Training".
Second, "safety" procedures (and I'm not sure why you put the word "safety" in quotations) is NOT just about being aware of the present dangers. Safety procedures are all about knowing what the hazards are and knowing how to control them so they don't injure you. Most workplace injuries occur as a result of complacency on behalf of the worker. Case in point. Read Kurt Craig's comment. He proves my point with his ridiculous comment that an experienced operator is perfectly safe to remove safety guards and devices. Absolutely not. That is how injuries occur. The operator thinks they know better and they eventually lose.
@@kurtcraig3421 That is absolutely absurd. I am a health and safety officer as well, and to make a statement that it is ok to remove safety guards and devices if the operator has experience is beyond dumb. Especially in response to someone who is advocating for hands on training vs safety procedures. What exactly do you think happens when a new worker sees someone removing safety guards? They think that it is ok to do the same because the person training them just did it. Hands on training of the kind you guys are talking about perpetuates and entrenches bad habits. That's one of the reasons there are safety procedures.
@@tchevrier Interesting comment. I would point out we are talking about using gloves (or not using gloves, as the case here) when and where appropriate according to the individual risk assessment; these folks have done this kind of work for a period of time sufficient to assume they are reasonably qualified to make common sense decisions with respect to their own safety. I still say, good ya young lady!
I absolutely agree with everything you just said. I have been sawing for 26 years and only wear gloves when my hands are cold. One rarely, if at all will get splinters from green wood. I have never injured myself except for a scratch or two changing a blade (I do wear leather gloves when I "uncoil" and "coil up" the blade for transport), but other than that, no gloves. If you are sawing eastern white pine, the pitch you get on your hands is a natural antiseptic, so if you get a splinter it will never get infected... One thing I learned over the years is if your hands are covered in pine pitch, you can get them clean with butter! (real butter) granted it's a waste of butter but it works. Liberate the hands people! I love the feel of the wood, each species has its own characteristic.
As an electrian working without gloves for a lot of years, my hands took a toll.
I've been buying 3M gloves from the supple house that I can actually work with ,at $10 a pair they stand up to a Lotta of wear n tear.
Having worked as a licensed electrician for 20+ (and doing 90+ cord of wood a year) without gloves, I have a permanent pair of gloves on my hands !!!
Well, Electricians have baby soft hands , so....
You mentioned this subject once before. I believed you then, and still do now! 👍
The only way to get clean, safe hands is to not work. So I guess those folks don't know what work is. Good luck, and keep working! 👍
When working with rotating equipment gloves are more of a hazard as they can get caught and cause serious injuries.
Getting your hand caught In Rotating equipment without a glove also causes serious injury. Proper machine guarding and training is what saves you from that. Gloves are for abrasion protection, the first time a splintered cant slips and rips her hand open or takes the end of a finger off she will understand why every big sawmill in North America requires all production workers to wear gloves on the production floor.
I call BS on this. If you get a gloved hand close enough to rotating equipment to cause an issue your hand would be too close without a glove.
@@Average1212 You are less likely to get a bare hand caught in equipment, which gloves will cause, Americans are obsessed with safety rules, so they can not think for themselves, and end up in more problems than other nationalities. This is caused by ridiculous controlling government regulations, that the sheep allowed, and have now dumbed the people down.
@@grancitodos7318 I have worked in mill maintenance and construction for 20 years. I can tell you right now that 99% of hand injuries are not caused by getting caught in equipment. The vast majority of hand injuries from line workers are abrasion and cuts both of which are prevented by good gloves.
Almost all big industrial companies have glove policies because it saves them money on reduced down time. This is simple math.
@@Average1212 It depends on which kind of machine someone is working, blanket rule to fit all, is typical American and often idiot shit.
100% agree with every aspect of what she said.I would also like to push the point that it IS a matter of choice and not safety because things like gloves and loose clothing are one in the same, hazardous. I use gloves when I am transferring my plywood from trailer to shop because I can move faster without worry of splinters which my helper gets evry time he helps me, and I always offer him gloves beforehand which he refuses. I don't often wear gloves milling, but I do use them when I just moving lumber and mostly because I'd rather not get dirty hands. Keep up the great job ladies!!!
Yes, I agree about the reasons for not wearing gloves, even in the cold my hands stay warm, but when I get wood from the sawmill I do get tiny splinters. What does worry me is that you don't wear your hair up, gorgeous as it is, I'd rather see it under control! The saw which I consider most dangerous is the chop or pull over (which you don't have) because you cannot see the blade, and it wasn't fun spending 3 hours in surgery to have tendons repaired!
You know I've worked around power equipment electrical chemicals for more than 50 years and think your reasoning about wearing gloves is spot on. It really comes down to a matter of common sense
I just came across this video I had to comment . What I can say is just do what works for you, most of those know-it-alls don't even have a clue what a blade is not seen a mill in person. I own wooodworking businesses too so yes I do what works for me, it's just about common sense and been careful. God bless take care you and your family .. awesome channel btw.
There is no such thing as common sense. And when it comes to safety, especially for a business, "be careful" is an excuse for not having a proper safety program in place.
You have such a nice voice and a calm presence. Enjoy your videos
I have similar views on gloves for the last 40+ years of working life. One thing though,back when I did more outdoors I would layer a good thin glove inside a good warmer glove,when it's -10F handling cold steel just removing the warm glove but keeping a little protection is a damn site better than nothing for a short time. Thumbs up to you!
Smart and safe,we do the same at our mill, although it is a larger mill , making slats for pallets,mill has been here since the 1800s, eldorado county town of eldorado county,so old school is our huge machinery,butt runs like a new car. No glove's here.we do the same.good work jade and emerald and little big man u guys bust a move.pops and mom are pretty darn good too.gramps is super smart too.latet Devo on the chop.
EB: nothing but respect for these ladies, there is unfortunately a huge percentage of the population that will not grow up with your clear sense of purpose, your knowledge (on anything), your contribution to your family's business. I am positive that your experience and that of your folks has built up an understanding of best pros-and-cons of safety, efficiency and individual comfort for the tasks you handle. I love your channel, and your presentations are very instructive about your work. And as a side note, it is fascinating to learn more about all the family as bits of personal world come into the bigger picture of what you share. thank you for your YT efforts.
You answered my question, I just seen you handling lumber barehanded and from past experience, I worked at a couple of mills when I was much younger and I was getting splinters and slivers all the time. Well, as always, great video.
Gloves are only necessary if you say they are necessary. You and your sister are doing the work so you say what is necessary and what is not necessary.
I can only give you two your props because you work your butts off and that is very rare amongst kids your age today.
You two just keep kicking ass! Y'all Rock!!
Yes I wondered why I haven’t seen you wearing gloves but this was mainly for splinters and calluses. Another informative video. Thanks
I work in cnc laser cutting and almost never wear gloves, even when handling freshly cut metal.
Yes the metal is hot, hot enough to burn instantly on skin contact but if you're smart enough to not touch the hot parts you don't get burnt. And as you said, gloves can bring a false sense of confidence, with hot metal you WILL find that one tiny hole in your glove because that's exactly which part of your hand will grab the hottest part of the metal.
For chemical contact you're also right, nitrile gloves is the way to go although I would suggest thicker, "reusable" ones. Those thin black ones WILL eventually bleed chemicals through if you're working on a long cleaning process.
You girls could put 100% of the neigh sayers to shame with your work ethic. Your choice to handle your work as you see fit. Keep up the great videos and thanks for taking us along.
Neigh-sayers are horses; commenters are wombats...... :)
They have character, and imo integrity. That makes them twice as gorgeous
I did have a bit of OSHA eye shock when I saw some of your more recent videos and and the lack of gloves. Or eye protection. I did watch this video and listened. I have worked in factories and actually two sawmills in the early 70's and you are spot on both the benefits and drawbacks to glove use as an operator-sawyer. Not all use is equal. Sometimes they are appropriate. Others just a meat sack. Forward to a career in the pipelines for a major oil company that insisted on glove use 24/7 outside of the office, was a nonsensical extreme. I would add another arrow to your quiver, is the lack of better fitting gloves for women industrial workers.
I agree. PPE should be worn appropriately and should be well fitting
you can buy cut resistant gloves that are pretty inexpensive and are fairly thin.
Also for in the winter you can buy a snug fitting knit glove for when using the mill. They are quite warm, and then if needed you can slip on a larger glove over top. Also you can buy safety covers for certain switches if you can concerned about accidentally turning it on.
Safety covers are good.
Gloves around moving parts - cut resistant or not - not necessarily. They can be grabbed and pull your hand into the mechanism dealing much more damage than you'd get without a glove.
@@tomaszwota1465 I've never subscribed to absolutes. When it comes to safety, it's all about risk assessment and hazard control. The thing about people claiming that you should never wear gloves around moving parts is somewhat a generic and absolute statement. First and foremost, we have to ask why are we getting our hands that close to moving parts. That in itself is probably a better question than should we or should we not be wearing gloves. That said, when handling a sharp blade, I would definitely suggest a cut resistant glove AFTER the machine has been locked out and tested so that there is no chance it can start up. That said, I have seen a tattered glove get caught and pull someone's hand into a drill chuck.
@@tchevrier Mine isn't an absolute statement. Unless you consider "not necessarily (good)" an absolute. ;)
@@tomaszwota1465 I wasn't implying that your statement was. I was making reference to a lot of the other comments.
@@tchevrier roger.
Thanks for explaining. I’ve been mowing grass barefoot for decades and it freaks people out.
You females' are some of the hardest working girls I have ever seen!! First of all working at a sawmill is hard work......Just keep up the great work ethic and the awesome videos. Thanks
Great piece.Well explained when talking about the pro's and con'a.
If you add your sizes people could send you gloves to try.
Personally, i have a finger set with joint protection and a finger tipless set when using tools. These keep the frost bite off and work well. When its really cold, i have heated pockets. So no gloves but a way to warm them.
They have probably learn to avoid splinter by not running their hands ALONG the wood, like letting the wood move between their fingers when the mill is ejecting a piece of wood.
--- plus fresh sawn green wood isn't nearly as prone to splinters as dried wood
Wearing gloves at work should be an option, not a forced rule. As a craftsman I know that hands want to "breathe" while you are using them. I wear gloves, when necessary but try to keep them off as long as I can. So what Emerald was saying makes totally sense (at least for me).
Hard to beat a good fitting pair of leather or pig skin gloves. You can still push buttons and flip switches ect, and still gives protection.
My father is a retired carpenter. When I was young, he preached about not wearing gloves around power saws & planers. He’s seen some guys loose fingers with the cloth jersey gloves especially.
We had a friend help us cut lumber on the wood mizer one time, he showed up wearing Stihl boots, Stihl chaps, Stihl jacket, Stihl ear muffs, Stihl helmet with face shield, Stihl safety glasses and yes, Stihl gloves !
Thanks Emerald for another informative episode. Bulky gloves are a hindrance with motorcycling too, but if you wear thin silk gloves as a base layer, you don’t need heavy gloves. Nice and warm. Camping stores should have them maybe.👍
Gloves wear out too fast. Not worth the waste of money. I also do pretty much everything without gloves cause they are in the way. As you said, you cant get your fingers into tight places. I end up taking them off all the time so I can work. Just not worth it. Small splinters will happen but its worth it not using gloves.
I very rarely say to much to anyone about how they do things, if it works for you, by all means that should be done, when I was tail sawing, or taking away, I had my leather palmed gloves, and that worked for me, you produce good content, that's all that matters to me, Thanks for sharing, Emerald
Good point with the controls. Other than that I'm not convinced. Gloves are good to have on. The coated polyester knit gloves are not bulky provide a good grip and protect hands
Situational awareness is the best safety tool. Keeping your mind on the job. I am a flatbed trucker and only wear gloves to keep my hands warm or clean.
Completely understand not wearing gloves, gloves, and moving machinery don't go together... that was the first thing I noticed about you guys and I'm 100% with you. I changed a lot of metal bandsaw blades and you don't wanna wear gloves you don't want to get stuck or hung up on a blade with a glove on.
You girls are doing a great job running that yard , love the spot you have there looking out on to the mountains. Xx
I worked in Carpentry for 20 years, and run a sawmill, and cut firewood for personal use. I never wore gloves even in the winter up here in Canada. Now I pull a desk job 4 days a week, its nice to be out of the weather, but my hands got soft, now I wear gloves all the time. I didn't wear them for a lot of the same reasons you mention (almost impossible to grab nails from a pouch with gloves on. Now I seem to hurt my hands more, so I wear them more, just last weekend I was splitting firewood and my glove got caught on a bolt and my thumb got pinched, I may not have got the injury if not wearing the gloves, but it may have been much worse had I not. After 25 years of running saws and other machines I still have all my digits (so far!) stay comfortable and work safe! keep up the good work.
Interesting video. Here in Canada we wear mittens with a velcro "hood" that covers the fingers. When we need to use controls we simply peel back the cover, do what needs to be done, then back goes the finger toque. Pretty sure you have them there. As far as flicking a toggle switch inadvertently, like any power tool caution is paramount. Have a wonderful 4th of July.
I would say LOTO when performing services or maintenance on the equipment
I'm from Maine and I wear thin gloves in the winter so I can still feel and have dexterity. I grew up on a farm and spent 15+ years in the Army and I'm a 2nd generation truck driver who works in construction. I've done everything from baling hay, putting on tire chains at 40 below zero, handling green timber building bridges on logging roads to cutting with a chain saw. Wearing the right gloves for the job will save your hands a significant amount of beating in the long run. The gloves I usually wear aren't much different than batters gloves you'd see in baseball
I worked in Construction for decades when younger. Bicycle gloves are pretty awesome for most work. They leave your finger tips open to manipulate controls and leather palms protect you from most splinters and blisters. Old thin t-shirt tied around head to keep long hair back and protection from sun cover your neck. useful when framing in hot sun of SoCal.
I respect and understand your views. Thank you for being you.
About gloves and splinters, as a retired builder, and woodworker most people get splinters in their hands from sliding their hands along the wood. You grab the wood solidly move it where you want it, relieve your grip and grab solidly it in the new location, etc. Never ever slide your hands along the lumber.
I explain that to each new helper, and laborer after they get a splinter, that way they remember!
I have a little story about safery precautions.
When I was in high school we have labor training based on local bakery - so yet we was unskilled we just carry flour bags to the intake of floor bunker. It was looks like big meat grinder and above it, on the white painted wall, was strange big brown splats. Foreman told us that it was blood of one the worker who accidently put his arm into the bunker intake. His hand was almost destroyed and blood sprayed all around. They didn't repaint the wall because this was best way to show how important safety precautions is. After thirty years I still remember this painted wall.
I had that question also. Good explanations. Fantastic and competent young woman.
I worked in a veneer mill, and when the wood was fresh and still wet, we weren't required to wear gloves. But, after the veneer was dried, we had to wear gloves, because dry wood produced to most splinters. When the wood is fresh cut, like at this mill, the fibers are still soft and flexible, so you don't get many splinters.
As an Aussie I spent thousands of hours in footy short whilst using a chain saw and I can definitely agree that you feel more safe then you actually are when you wear protection
Insane not to wear protective pants when using a chainsaw. Seen some pretty ugly cut up thighs in my time
I find it crazy (but not surprising) that people want to give you advice, who have probably never run a machine like you do, or handled rough sawed lumber like you do. I hope it all just goes in one ear and out the other for you. You're doing a pretty cool thing, sharing your day to day with us, and I must say I'm rather fascinated by it all. So people being pushy and giving you advice is quite inappropriate, and they should probably go do something with their lives themselves rather than judging people that work as hard as you all do. I'm glad I came across your channel!
Constructive criticism from others with experience - nothing wrong with that. We all have to learn new things , but maybe we don't have to learn the hard way !
Your explanations make sense to me because I've worked in construction most of life. There tasks you have to do where gloves cannot be worn, like grabbing 1 3/8 inch nails or 1 1/4 inch screws to fasten sheetrock. You have to feel the orientation of the nails/screws so you can get it ready to hammer in or screw in the fasteners.
When you work around dangerous machine you have to develop a higher sense of awareness ALL of the time.
When I in the National Guard, we learned risky skills like parachuting, rappelling from a hovering helicopter and so on. Like with parachute jumps once you step out of the plane you are by yourself. If the chute doesn't open correctly, you have to solve the problem
You could use shooters/hunting gloves for the winter where just your trigger finger can be removed from the glove so you can push buttons and flip switches without your hands freezing. A lot of mechanics use them while working out side.
I've worked in shops and industrial environments. I've also done my fair share of skiing. When you discussed situational awareness, most people won't be able to understand that. You do have a difficult environment to work in and I can only wish you the best.
Totally agree with you, wearing gloves are not recommended by most wood workers and is actually considered a safety hazard, as they can get caught and pull your hand into danger. Of course as another poster commented, jewelry and long hair can also get caught in moving parts and machinery :) Best of luck and stay safe, keep up the good work and videos.
Thanks for the explanation on why you do not wear gloves my neighbor just turned me on to your channel today and that was something that was making me scratch my head the first time I seen you handling the sawed logs.
I was wearing out a pair of the soft mechanix style gloves while sawing wood with chainsaw every 6-8 cords (in the finger tips from handling wood). Switched to the all-leather Firm Grip glove from HD, and haven't wore out a pair yet, 32 cords later. The velcro isn't too useful anymore...
I admire and respect your way of doing things. After watching you work, I am convinced that you are doing great. Remain safe and keep the videos coming.
Great overview on pros and cons of gloves! I like wearing fingerless gloves (just fingertips exposed) for non chemical work when I am in a cold shop. They provide warmth without compromising dexterity.
Hi Emerald,
Thanks for this video. That has been one of my recurring questions, and now I'll stop asking. BTW, thanks for protecting your hands from chemicals. I've had liver failure from that and it's no picnic.
Retired now but I worked in electronics and was around all kinds of power distribution panels and sources. I refused to wear jewelry, even a wedding ring. I seen 2 people get hurt. One with a ring and one with a tie. The tie was going through a big CAD plotter (special large printer). It did not differentiate between pulling back and forth a big paper and his tie. Also, I have a brother with 9 fingers. On a cold day, the table saw caught his glove. You are doing right.
My favorite “gloves” are the white, cotton cheap gloves you can buy at Tractor Supply. They are surprisingly warm, fit snug and I can pick up most things with them on. (Just don’t get them wet)
This video was awesome. 💯I loved the part about gloves not protecting your hand from getting shopped off lol. I like the sense of humour ❤️🔥💯❤️🔥
I only wear work gloves for the cold. Cutting or chopping wood I generally don't wear them as the workout is keeping me warm. Handling steel when it's cold is 1 of the few times I wear them. Some splinters over Autumn/Winter is just to let you know you've been working.
I am just glad to see that all of you still have all of your fingers.
I think it's just a matter of personal preference. When I was framing houses full-time no one on my crew wore gloves, but the last 20 years doing metalwork I wore them 7 days a week. Now that I'm running a sawmill, I still wear them full time. Keep up the good work!
The conversation surrounding gloves brings me back to firefighting basic school. One of the students in our class complained about having to wear gloves and tie knots with gloves. As a result, our instructor required us to wear gloves the next class and the next test we took. No one complained about needing to wear the PPE again.
As a Dive Instructor, we have the same "no gloves" policy when taking divers out, because they are more likely to be lazy with their buoyancy control and land on the coral.
They'd use their gloves hands to stop themselves from hitting the coral, resulting in MORE coral damage.
They'd also be enticed to touch or man-handle the very sensitive coral with gloves on, resulting in MORE coral damage..
We prevent these behaviors by enforcing a "no gloves" policy, thus forcing divers to improve their Buoyancy skills and not be tempted in intentionally touching coral, some of which will sting.
...My 2 cents...
I don't wear gloves either and I don't get splinters. But when it's very cold and my fingers are cold I wear wool knit gloves they're very thin and they're not bulky to get in the way of operating equipment. It really helps a lot but it's not the answer the cold hands sooner or later if you need to get them warm and that's just the way it is but the wall neck gloves help so much. Be safe and thank you for sharing
I do volunteer work in a manufacturing setting where we have power saws, drill presses, routers, sanders, etc. Signs are posted on some machines NOT to wear gloves (as a result of an accident from wearing gloves while using a drill press).
I have used brake cleaner and other chemicals for years to clean my hands. I recently learned that such chemicals can permeate our skin and some can build up in our system with possible long term health effects. Think, for example, of seasick patches, some hormone treatments, and other transdermal patches that release the drugs thru the skin.
Here in the West I wear gloves because we have pitchy “resinous” woods that will get pitch all over our hands. Also Douglas fir can have little micro slivers if bugs get under the bark and shred it into little slivers. If it wasn’t for that, I probably wouldn’t wear gloves either.
You and your entire family are professionals and excellent at your jobs. Any idiots that are bashing on you for anything at all, especially something as trivial as your decision to not wear gloves, are most likely 30 year olds sitting in their underwear in their Mom's basement. You keep being you and making your own decisions. Those of us that enjoy your content will never bash on you.
Yes.. Snowflakes.
@@happyinfidel1 How original.
Or they are someone who worked in a sawmill for over a decade and wore gloves without issue that whole time.
lol nice white knight
Or maybe it’s someone like me who has 35 years experience running Woodmizer sawmills as a full time business. Someone like me who has seen what a springing bandsaw blade can do to a man’s face. Or someone like me who does wear gloves and has still had plenty of blood loss over the years.
I think I encourage this family as much as anyone. I just choose to do it in a responsible way. I for one have never thought of scare tissue as a badge of honor. At least not when it’s derived from foolish carelessness.
I understand the dexterity issues, very true. In my case, my soft hands would likely dry out and callous.
Gloves will lessen impact and further longevity. As a mechanic I didnt start wearing rubber gloves until my dad died of a chemical exposure through his hands.
While gloves largely are not necessary in a sawmill, I would be wearing them when moving wood by hand in quantity. Nothing like a full day on the saw and splitter when your hands at night are the only thing that feel like they werent worked, not to mention are clean enough to eat off of even after the harshest sesh.
To me gloves keep my hands healthy and the lady happy, but thats largely due to automotive lol
I've known grown men with less work ethic than you young ladies.
And you're both smart and obviously independent, all the things you need to succeed. Your parents must be very, very proud. Almost to bursting, right?
Love the channel girls, you do you, ignore the bots and we'll tag along for the ride.👍
As someone who runs a furniture making wood shop I never wear gloves for very similar reason. The main thing is you need to feel the wood and the grain when trying to get boards flat.
I wear gloves when using a chainsaw or handling fire wood or when using some chemicals. But mostly when using the machines I don’t wear gloves.
I have an uncle who is in his 80's now. He was a master with a metal lathe. That master wanted to do some filing one day and left his gloves on. The lathe took the glove off right along with his ring finger. I have my own forge. You will get burned faster in the forge with gloves than without. I wear them for certain operations, but not regular forging. I don't wear gloves around spinning parts. The saw shop that I just left has many spinning parts.
I'm a guitar player. If it's cold or I'm dealing with any dangerous machines (rare nowadays) I will wear winter gloves or work gloves as necessary. I guess the big thing is to be careful. No machine or work related thing is worth my hands. As long as long you are very careful and pay a lot of attention. You have an admirable work ethic. Cheers.
I largely agree with you about woodworking in bare hands. The one observation that i would make is that sometimes when i need to exert a lot of force with the hands, some gloves protect the skin surface so that i can use a lot more force rather than being limited by the nerve endings. But i probably just need to go get a wrench.
I agree that you are more careful when you know there is danger. When I was a carpenter, back before OSHA, we removed our saw guards on purpose. If you think that guard will save you, the time will come when it gets jammed with sawdust and doesn't work. If you know that blade is out to get you, you are much more careful.