TESLA Model 3 vs BMW M3 Track Battle | Top Gear
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- Опубликовано: 28 апр 2019
- Four challenges - a drag race, 0-100-0, hot lap, drift off - a point for each, one overall winner. And it’s all because Elon posted a tweet last May claiming the Model 3 Performance would wipe the floor with the BMW M3 on track. Was he right? Subscribe to Top Gear for more videos: bit.ly/SubscribeToTopGear
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This guy makes James May look like an f1 racecar driver
Dank Mematodes gosh I miss those guys... they’re the soul of this show, without them I’ve stopped watching this show for quite a long while...
I’m really upset that BBC is being a d*ck ugh
@@michael50310
Well they have thier show on Amazon Prime right?
Emad Aldeen yes and I like the style they’re presenting, just disappointing to see what Top Gear has become after they left...
ROFL I agree, you could tell he was banging for the Tesla. Definitely had grandma's right boot on.
Well James may was the fastest man alive for a little bit
First : in long Top Gear tradition you should know that 0-100-0 are mesured in distance.
Second : lap times are mesured doing a flying lap.
Third : your Driving skills are not good enough to get a proper lap time in any of those cars, you where miles from any racing line.
Fourth : that's not drifting at all. That a bit of powersliding at best.
This content is not good enough to bear the name of Top Gear.
Google this
0-100-0 record
Tell me how it is measured.
True
0-100-0 mesured by time!!! not disctance. Or Koenigsegg suck balls with his world record 0-300-0
99.9% of the people buying the car wont be professional drivers so it makes more sense having a normal person test them.
The rules of the tests were obviously chosen to help the Tesla win. My guess is it's a press car and they don't want to lose access again.
I'm so happy I grew up with the old Top Gear
@@cinegraphics exactly
@@cinegraphics this is a joke right? you might get 1300 miles before the car craps out and blows the motor
@@cinegraphics You'll be lucky to get 350 miles out of this M3!
@@justabrokeredneck funny man you are, try to drive your tesla after 10 years... O wait then its already at the scrapyard poluting the world and the beamer is still going string for at least 15 years
Me 2
If James May is Captain Slow, this is General Slow
Supreme Leader Slow
admiral SLow..
Lord slow
this is capitan “get moveing omg🤬🤬” slow
President Slow
OK honestly, tesla fans, BMW fans, we can all agree that we need a more indept test or maybe a more experienced driver....
Not really, all that's going to happen is the numbers shift, but the result would be the same. This is just a classic case of goal post shifting when it comes to comparing tesla. First it was range (they now have 300+ miles and when driven hard a Bmw m3 is going to have less range than that, i use 3/4 tank on my track days in my RS3), then it was charging times (which are either overnight so it doesn't matter or 20mins at a supercharger for the few time a year you will use it, so perfectly acceptable), then it was battery life (now 8year/unlimited km warranty and should last 500,000km, more than most ice), then it was track performance (which is now shown to be perfectly acceptable and beating a car that is at the top of its segment), now its you have to using a F1 driver to get the perfect lap from both (which the majority of us will never get, I have done thousands of racing laps over the last 10 years, I am still not a expert and make error's all the time, noone is perfect)..........its all crap, the fact is, EV's are now to the standard required, people just don't WANT them to be.
Agreed however its not a pointless test, lets face it how many Tesla / BMW owners have track experience?
@@stinger15au I'm pretty sure no cars can reach their estimated range when driven hard. Also, an RS3 is a better car than the Model 3 performance so just be happy you have that.
@@goodfodder I agree, even if the driver really matters than perhaps the BMW is not the car for most drivers, most people won't be professional drivers so a Tesla will do a lot better on their hands. The crybabies should just accept the M3 defeat here, the car is already so technologically outdated compared to Tesla anyway, I wouldn't put that much money on it.
@@stinger15au They're in denial. They're insecure and scared little boys desperately clinging on to the novelty of a stick and noisy exhaust.
I've always wanted to race the Windows XP background 🏁
Bendik Stenersen 😂😂😂😂
It's even nicer in spring. A month ago it was all green, with ice caps on the mountains in the background.
lmao thank god im not the only one noticing this
Loosers!
It's the same place where the Teletubbies live.
This guy makes top gear look so boring, cause honestly reading the comments has been more fun then watching this review.
It's TG magazine not the TV show,
agreed
So true
If your mad that an electric car embarrassed top of the line sports cars just say that.
So not true
I feel like this is where the Windows XP background picture was taken lol
Teletubbies landscape
I was thinking the same thing! LOL!
It’s actually not too far off. The XP background was photographed in Sonoma, California. Thunder Hill is in Willows, CA. That makes them about 125 miles apart.
Yeeee
Napa valley California
What happened to the stig coz this guy can’t drive
and thats the funny part , i did not notice its a top gear channel until i spotted your comment , this looks like some noob trying to break into youtube jumping on the hype of tesla , seems i missed nothing when i stopped watching top gear when the trio left
Stig... Incognito driver, who don't show his opinions on cars, don't talk about cars, has one job. Drive it to the track as fast as you can... As this car can. Other jurnalist will tell: Yes this car was faster, but afer this lap Stig looks like he will die out of stress, its hard to drive, don't buy it, or this car in Stig hand was słów, but it is realy Good to drive, feals comfortable etc.
I think Tesla will make it in all respects ruclips.net/video/y141HtVlTVA/видео.html ^^
Unfortunately he does. But nobody can badmouth Tesla. Imagine your favourite driving movie with a Tesla! The original Gone in 60 seconds. *Sad face noises*
He was flailing out of the corners on 4wd Tesla but acted like the throttle would kill him in the m3
*AWD
@@mr.blonde7812 ERMMMM ACKCHUALLY IT IS A TEMPORARY GEAR AND, shut your clown ass up it’s been 4 years
@@mr.blonde7812 You can make it almost 100% RWD or FWD. Maybe not the classical definition of 4wd, but I would considor the Tesla 4wd. 2 independent electric motors on each axel lets it torque vector better than an AWD car aswell.
@@myles6235 you cannot shift the power in a Tesla.
@@chriscotton4207 I own a model 3 performance. Put it in track mode and you can change which wheels get the power in real time. Mid corner you can manually shift from total rear bias to total front bias with a slider on the screen. There's a reason the M3P completes the Nürburgring faster than an M3.
Mother of god, this guy is driving like my grandma 🤦🏻♂️
It took the m3 a shorter distance 0-100-0 so in my eyes, it definitely won that one. The hot lap was just fun, not a serious comparison. Actually, none of the tests were done very well.
I think the point was more to show that it’s a competent vehicle, rather than hands down scientific results
I don't thinks so pal, I'm a petrol head myself but you have got to give to Tesla except how fun and loud it is and always would be (I hope) to drive a good BMW
The shorter distance is because of wheel spin, the Tesla has virtually no wheel spin so no wasted space
@@somethingsomethingdarkside8245 Hloupost.. právě že se u BMW protočí kola tak má slabší start... Ale po rozjezdu má lepší dynamiku... Takže dá dřív větší rychlost...
ive seen a guy constantly drift a model 3 around a parking lot
this guy cannot drive
Some rich kid Lowlifemike can drift his and these millionaire adults can't
I don't even think the Tesla was set on ludicrous mode.
Yes, but that was the Standard range Plus model, and that one has rear wheel drive. The performance model has AWD wich means it needs alot of computer work to get it drifting.
@@ok10469 The model 3 does'nt have ludicrous mode.
@@WRLDPost I mean the high acceleration mode
Not really a proper test, driver has a huge impact on this result. Put Chris Harris in the cars, and then ill believe the outcome. oh and since when is 0-100-0 not measured by distance
Look up the Randy Pobst laps in the Tesla versus the likes of the Quadrifoglio if that helps.
@@Cloxxki that lap is complete bogus. The Quadrifoglio was on normal tires. The Model 3 Performance was on Cup 2 tires that are comparable to the ones found on the Porsche GT3RS. No Model 3 on comparable tires has come close to the Quadrifoglio.
What? It's the same driver! As you have been correctly informed by the above commenter, Model 3 beating M3s and the even faster Alfa QF has already been proven with pro drivers. I have the Alfa, and have long since made the decision to make the Model 3P my next car.
Anyone commenting without driving both should honestly be banned frm making ill informed nonsense comments on these types of videos.
@@unickygtube beating them with superior tyres, shock! And yes its the same driver, my very point. Clearly he is no professional driver, his "drifts"are not even controlled, look at how jerky it is. As i said, put Chris Harris in both and then ill believe the outcome. And saying you cant comment unless you've Driven both is a weak PC argument.
I mean since always, 0-300-0 0-400-0 bu bugatti or koenigsegg are also not measured by distance but by time
6:18
This guy: Weight is everything of course
Clarkson: Speed and poweeer!
Some say that he once lost to a drifting competition with James May, and he also sold a trolley from Tesco. All we know is, he's the Stig's non racer cousin.
i must say, this guy doesn't know how to drive
He's also fucking annoying.
Tesla its boring , no exhaust sound , id ratter go to sleep.
@@juancruz-jg5pq Totally agree. It's a car with no soul lol.
More annoying than Clarkson
@@JCTiggs1 Because you're not wasting energy on noise and heat, it has no soul? Elaborate for me? Because that's the same shit they said back when the automobiles came out. Would you prefer we go back to horse and buggy?
He drove that BMW like my mom would have driven it.
He's not a "Car guy", he's a "Corporate guy".
Alexander Hamilton and the Tesla too
This test is irrelevant you idiot how can you lose to tesla in m3 in lap times
No launch control used for the BMW but he had the Tesla in track mode.
I agree 💯%, the Tesla may have the better launch in a straight line, but the M is King of the Track any day of the week...
Especially when being compared to an electrical appliance...
Please get a guy that can drive on a track otherwise it’s really meaningless
Bro tf is everyone complaining about he said hed rather have the bmw because its a better car so everyone should be happy
@@howdy3670 bmw is a better car?
@@Aprikuusi2003 Better as in more enjoyable to drive, which should be more important than the odd second in a drag race or whatever, unless you have a fragile ego.
I think in Track Mode, you can turn the front electric motor off for RWD. Would have drifted much easier.
That would be drift mode , you’d loose 50% of the power
Should've let Chris Harris do the driving
Should've let Chris Harris do the whole video
What happened to the stig
@@jaffejoffer2168 True that. No offence to the guy, the Alpine in the Alps review was great by him (edit: nvm, I just realized that it was by Ollie Marriage), but goddammit, I can get my FWD hatchback more sideways than this guy in M3
@@TheHilariousGoldenChariot Didn't Elon send him to Mars in a Roadster?
Unfortunately the presenter is no Senna,
And this here, is the place where the Windows XP wallpaper was taken :p
So I wasn't the only person thinking that then 😂
Golden😂😂
Same!!! 4:02
thank you just made my day😁😁😁😁
Sanchit Sahdev - Thunderhill Raceway In California
8:03 this wins "Most boring Slowmotion of the year"
This guy talks too much gibberish.
This has got to be the most unprofessional test i've ever seen
In what way?
Adding a professional driver would probably benefit the Tesla, this dude slid out onto the gravel on that track 😂
@@MarcCoteMusic Only a good driver would have consistent lap times.
they used a certified BMW douchbag to do the driving tho...
That was the point.
This isn't Top Gear, more like What Gear?
More like Parking Gear.
LOL
The lowest gear:(
no gear like there's no gearbox on Tesla
Reverse Gear.
There is nothing better than the smell of gasoline in the morning and the sound of the engine when starting cold with a cup of coffee. 😤🤘⛽⛽
He drifts like me when I first started to drift in nfs most wanted
That’s not drifting it’s powersliding.
Drifting is when a car breaks traction with any other wheel so technically it is
@@hsvr no drifting is what you before the corner
Eman M so a burnout is a drift?
Insert Witty Name yeah. Tesla should update the software to unplug front engine in drift mode for pure RWD
It's so pintless to try to make "drifting" so special when it's almost ALWAYS a powerslide.
Pro drifters use wight transfer or the hydro handbrake to get it sideways and then hold it sideways on, guess what, the throttle. So are they drifting for a short amount of time until they're poweroversteering? Is it only a drift if there's a transition from one corner to another? Is it a drift if the "powerslide" gets held sideways longer than in the Video? At what point does a drift stop being a powerslide, or start being one.
Let's just make it simple and say a drift, a slide, a powerslide, a skid, it's all just plain old Oversteer.
He drives the m3 like my mom drives her xc90
I am a through and through petrol head, however drove a Tesla Model 3 a while back and was blown away, amazing car. For a daily driver & even roads trips, this is it. Will be my next car once I've sold the VW.
Literally the M3 looks a hell of a lot more refined and aggressive
Some of those lines in the m3 lap were abit questionable
Yea the driver held back
Yeah he didn’t use all the track but because it’s the same driver in both cars, it seems fair
@@juraj_b Pretty sure that's unfair since there is no skill in accelerating with an automatic car (which is Tesla's strength) while there is skill in cornering (which should be BMW's strength) and this driver clearly lacks skill. The test was bias towards Tesla so hard it's not even funny.
Exactly what I was thinking. It looked like he was almost cruising. It is a shame to top gear being biased and fakeing laps.
@@sasalolic999 Tesla has a much lower center of gravity, performance suspension, and AWD. It's better at cornering as well.
That's an interesting drift technique you've got there, I never even thought of starting the drift AFTER I'm through the corner.... GENIUS
@@wesselvroon2844 yez but he was hibting towards drifting the corner
The Tesla was awful at drifting. Be honest or you lose the viewer. We can see the Tesla is crap at drifting so why are you fake whooping it up?
Be natural and we'll go with you.
Also, please get someone who can do laptimes consistently. And if you can't then please do 5+ laps and show all the laptimes for both cars. That way we can see what's going on.
Next would be putting a camera on a sequence so we can see both cars overlaid and how they hit apexes or not.
Honestly, is like to know what each is like to sit, how they feel, look, what it's like to do a normal driving routine. Open door, sit in, start, select some music, navigation, aircon. The usual things.
Are Tesla's hard to use because it's all on a touchscreen?
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now lol what?
@@cytrynowy_melon6604 you'll need to ask more than *what* because you don't refer to anything.
Awfull, can i hear american ricers here? You dont gear down? You just push the pedal and thats it. Drifting at its finest. Great. So I was doing it wrong all the time. Great.
I just realized this is Top Gear because of the comments even after watching the whole video 😳
I see reality hurt a lot of ppl's butts. LOL
'To keep the test fair, we will give the car to someone with no skill or consistency'... right.
Preach !!!! He barely know how to drive
Exactly
looks like he took more runs in the tesla as well they show where he wiped out maybe that should be his time.
He crawled that BMW round the last corner, vs almost losing it in the model 3 he was pushing so hard.
This is a weak video because we do not see how consistent this guys laptimes are. Need someone who can actually do this.
I hardly ever watch Top Gear videos because they lack entertainment and high quality. Not having a race driver do the laps is such a bad move.
I've done go-karts, a few trackdays on bikes (knee down) and cars but I know I'm not someone who can do lap after lap within 0.5s each lap. I doubt this guy can either. Which means a 1.5-2.0 second difference could be him.
This is not "Top" gear, it's not even Average Gear.
the real winner? The Grand Tour.
You realise this is top gear magazine?
@@rockinatmidnight it doesn't really matter since they bear the top gear logo. The logo that should mean something. Well it meant something...
It used to mean quentin Wilson talking about boot space. Things change, now we've got two decent car shows
for Real hahaaha
boring and out of date. scripted and bad
Do the times include the amount of seconds the car slips of the track and gets back on the road to continue?
Elon has never driven a M3, he said his Tesla modell 3 has better handling xD
That was painful to watch, top gear is officially dead
Yep, totally dead. I am not sure about the lap he's driving was going to grocery shopping or bias towards model 3. It is a M3 for God sake. My driving is more aggressive like that when I am in an autocrossing...
Can't agree more
@@user-jh6vt8vx4v saying "It's M3, it has to be better" seems more biased than this video, no?
Can your M3 drive for you
@@iambenmitchell M3 drivers aren't passive. They choose to drive an M3 because they enjoy driving
"Moderately skilled driver"
*Has to race over grass and dirt debris from flying off the track*
*Drifts m3 for 1 second and compliments himself*
powerslide*
TripTheVoid Same thing
@@Mark-uk8wz not at all actually. Powersliding is taking a corner and sliding with the back a little. Drifting is turning and keeping it sideways just before the actual corner starts. ofc keeping it throughout as much as possible of the corner.
@@tripthevoid3317 Basically the same thing but earlier
What I was thinking, and also the comment above. Chris Harris will have the car smoking sideways and have the auto kick bang through a couple gears on the longer corners, while pulling out.
Drives the Tesla like a get away driver for a bank heist but drives the BMW like he is on his way to pick up his grandma...lol
All tests were done with half the battery 🔋😂
The tyres on the bmw didn't make a squeek, it had so much more left in it. Also the 0-100-0 is measured in distance, not time
I see what Aryan A is trying to say, but the time is squared, which has a much bigger effect than the acceleration. If you do the math comparing a Prius to the Model 3, you'll see that the Prius needs more than twice the distance the Tesla needs to get to 60. Forget about 0-100. The Prius barely gets there and probably needs a whole mile. I agree with you that 0-100-0 should be a measurement of distance.
@Aryan A WHAT?????
IMO, 0-100-0 is measured by distance and time, we could all agree that the Tesla is faster 0-100 thats why the car stopped first than the BMW. But braking wise, BMW got the edge on the Tesla thats why it stopped a shorter distance.
He definitely didn’t push the m3 around the track, I’ve heard Honda’s be pushed harder going to school
lol? the tesla has gone in distance because it covered more ground while accelerating.
Seriously? "Driftibility" as one of the points??? Top Gear has lost it completely
Spelling?!?!
@@dylanthornton2175 who cares? It's not a real word, so you can spell it however you please.
I think they need something the BMW could win at. I can think of a few like ranges, refill time, CO2 generation, noise (they keep mentioning it in the video).
come on...we all drift everyday when we go to work ahahah that´s why he choose the M3 😆...I just looooveeee the rubber burn of the tires 👏👌😆
@@thdjjfsfh Range? 310 for the Tesla vs 316 for the BMW. It's a wash, especially considering driving conservatively I can get closer to 350 miles in a Tesla Model 3.
The Tesla refills while I sleep. Even factoring in road trips, I spend way less time refilling my Model 3 throughout the year, and even then you can charge the Model 3 to 80% in around 30 minutes.
CO2 emissions depend entirely on your locality. In my state, less than 1/3 of our power is produced using coal/fossil fuels, and a Tesla Model 3s CO2 emissions are less than half of your typical gasoline vehicle. Not to mention hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide, carbon dioxide, brake dust, etc. There are maps where you can compare based on your state what is better for the environment, EV, Hybrid, or gasoline. By the way, gasoline doesn't win in a single state.
Not sure how noise is a win for the BMW, lol.
Need a re-match with the Highland M3
There is a drift mode in tesla. You can actually make it FWD, RWD or anything in between. Traction control also can be set anything from 0 to 100%. Very easy to drift.
That was added in Track Mode V2, which hadn't been implemented when this video was made. Drifting, and track performance all better with v2.
Well, driving skills aside, but the attempts at drifting were laughable.
crebegea XD
10:00
sennadasilva11 I disagree
can you please give the cars to someone who can actually drive
yes please
Just give him two days of instruction on this course and this review would be both palatable and credible. Dagnabit/Bollocks
For the lap times, if you're using the same driver in both cars, it doesn't really matter how "skilled" the driver in question is... Just saying.
Sure does. He lifted off for SO long in that first corner in the BMW. Easy 2 second loss in just that corner. The last corner he took way too slow in the BMW, turned right in, while the Tesla was pretty much spot on the racing line.
It even matters which car he drove first. He got used to the Tesla being a cow, then tried to treat the BMW the same way, nice and gentle, rip it out of the corners. It's the safe route to be fair. If he warmed up on the BMW and then took the Tesla for a spin, he would have ended up in a spin... several times over. Heavier car at same speeds will go wider.
@@gamebrigada2 I'm guessing you don't understand how statistics work...
Its funny that when racing drivers drive these cars the M3 goes half a minute faster around the nurembourg ring
you know the "nurembourg" ring, which is actually called nürburgring isn't a proper reference as it has really long straights, where the most important thing is to max out your speed, which is unlike most racetracks and obviously unlike any real world driving, which makes it actually a terrible track to compare it. the equivalent would be to use a track which forces you to nearly go to a full stop in every other corner and only has short straights which is actually closer to what an actual race track for e.g. F1 looks like than the nürburgring but equally unrealistic and a biased choice overall.
This is something even big fans and drivers on the nürburgring would tell you. I have a hard time understanding why people can't just accept that EVs are actually great cars and somehow have the feeling they have to defend their petrol cars whenever they lose in some comparison. You wont ever beat acceleration 0-100 and most likely even 100-200 against an EV at a similar pricepoint. Look at the Porsche Taycan or especially the new Model S plaid, insane cars.
Should be clear to anyone anyway that the guy in the video is by no means even a good driver and especially can't drift for shit though..
I thought this was a random RUclipsr so I was forgiving of the driving and the test setups. Then I saw it is Top Gear. So this is what the show has come to
Yeah... use a person who can actually drive next time *cough* Chris Harris
Incredible how far electric vehicles have come in any case. 10 yrs ago they were a joke, today we're arguing about whether the chosen driver impacted the results of performance challenges when comparing one against an M3.
@aj lana it's only because it has AWD, but this guy was very biased. HE LOST CONTROL ON THE TESLA!!!!! HOW IN THE HELL DID HE NOT BRING THAT UP AGAINST IT??? OR THE FACT THE HE WAS ALL OVER THE PLACE AND ALMOST LOST CONTROL SEVERAL TIMES??? He was VERY biased, and not even a good driver.
It doesn’t matter who is driving, the Tesla will always win. Time to face the music BMW lovers.. it’s the end of an era..
Amen to that
@@stevendufour LoL. They didn't use the performance edition of BMW. And of cource, eletric motors have a great torque advantage but thats it. You can probably do 2-3 laps before the Tesla has to give in. THe M3? You can hammer it around until you have to refuel. You just can't compare a Model 3 with a M3. Give them both the same torque and you will see that BMW has the best chassis you can possibly get besides Porsche and some Mercedes.
This feels like top gear trying to win tesla back
"My drifting skills are intermediate at best" - Maybe I'm missing something, but if you're going to be the host of top gear, why wouldn't your drifting skills be amazing at worst?
You guys need to revisit this battle using Track Mode V2 on the model 3.
Won’t make difference lol. FYI 1:30 is the avg pace of Golf Gti on this track and this guy was doing 1:35??? How he became a car show presenter?
@@stevenhuang9314 not for the lap time. The track mode v2 enables deep controls for handling (aka going sideways 😂)
The BMW M3 2018 does not get 34 MPG!!! It only gets 17/25 or combined 20 MPG!! Also, MPG isn't a range, that's an efficiency! Since it has a capacity of 15.8 gallons, the BMW M3 gets a range of 316 miles with an average 20MPG.
Come on guys, at least put a little effort into your data.
You're absolutely right!👍
Gallons are a different size in the UK
@@edwardbrearey6413 ah yes, fair point. Nonetheless, they are still comparing two different metrics. However, the cars have similar range, one with 316 miles and one with 310 miles.
@@edwardbrearey6413 furthermore, that's about 28 miles per 1 imperial gallon. Still wrong on their end.
@@Refaldooloo one takes 5 minutes to refuel the other on the other hand lol
Get a proper driver then you can compare
No, youre just a buthurt bmw fanboy lol
cha cha cha... salty?
Dom T Fun fact: I don’t even like bmw, just look at how he’s driving in both cars, he can’t even drift the bmw and he calls the tiniest powerslide a “drift”
@@domtdoodar99 I'm a tesla fan, and I'd like to see the best available driver test these cars....
But I do see where you're coming from calling them BMW fan boys XD
Would it be fun to see a professional driver test these? Yes. Is that the point of the video? No. Plus, I bet 99% of the people complaining about this guy's driving skills would run slower laps and smaller power slides than this driver. Most buyers will get more from this amateur driver test than professional driving.
It's rare to have a bona-fide track comparison between a Tesla and a worthy ICE competitor, so this should have been exciting. But then they put this guy in charge.
Buying a perfomance car is not about the 0-100, nor the lap time and even the drift (nobody drift his car on a regular basis...) but its all about the fun you have when you drive it !
So that more about how the engine sound how the steering feels, and theses kind of stuff.
A car enthusisast yould prefer the M3 for that reason, I would be very surprised to see a tesla in a track day.
Top Gear downshifted to Low Gear
Julio Viloria absolutely
Julio Viloria best one yet 👌
More like shifted to reverse
loool 🤣🤣🤣
The Tesla proves it’s not a drivers car, this guy is a useless driver.
*In Jeremy Clarkson's voice*: THIS IS A SSSTUPID TEST!
*STYUPID
@@brois841 *Shtewpiid
Tesla smoke the M3 😂😂😂😂
@@adrianadair9891 LOL... indeed! :)
"I have no problem with electricity as a means pf propulsion" *looks down and dies*
I wish the original top gear trio reviewed the Tesla.
one thing I want to know about this is; what was the state of charge on the Tesla? and was the battery prepped? going on road trips with a friend who has a Tesla there is a VERY noticeable performance increase if the battery is fully charged AND hot from either supercharging or conditioning the battery.
At the ‘Ring; Tesla model 3 P 7’44”. BMW M3, 7’35” and the M3 CS, 7’28”. Tesla is the sprint master, but racing isn’t just stomping on the throttle and hanging on. Sometimes a driver has to steer and brake.
0 to 100 to 0 The BMW did it in a shorter distance and lost???? How does that work?
Bob Houghton the tesla for being faster it reached 100 quicker therefore it was ahead of the bmw and subsequently it started breaking first too.
It is quite possible. Say for simplicity the Tesla is faster off the line but decelerates slower at say 80 to 100 range, so spends more of it's time at high speed but the BMW had a reverse of this thanks to the nature of ICE motors and lesser traction control than the motors/computers of the Tesla the distance travelled by the Tesla would be higher since more time is spent at in the high speed and not much at all in the low speed range but the reverse applies for the BMW. Again the total time makes no allowance for the split in deceleration at different speeds, so for example the Tesla brakes less hard at high speed and the BMW brakes hard at high speed but the BMW brakes fade they could have the same braking time but with the Tesla travelling a larger distance. This is probably not the actual mix of reasons, but how the time and distance don't need to match can make sense.
It just showed that the Tesla accelerates faster but the BMW has way better brakes. As for that being a "brake test" the results shown it is not. I was as confused as you were.
driver overshot 100, seems obvious
Bob, it seems to me the old is still true, "Figures don't lie but liers do figure"🤔
How this guy can be in Top Gear when he even doesn´t know how to drift M3!
Yeah because you do keyboard warrior
@@vc8160 shut up you little bitch hes right anyone can drift an m3
Can we get an updated video with the new track mode updates?
The speedometer In the M3 isn't accurate.
Tesla @3:46
M3 @5:40
Same curve. I'm an AMG fan and that M3 looks to be more stable. He may be driving the Tesla harder which is why he spun later. Going to hard. But I believe the M3 could do a better time. Let's get Chris Harris to remake this.
I can see. I also see Mercedes going hybrid to simulate the instant torque like electric vehicles. I think Hybrid cars will outperform electric cars due to weight savings. This M3 is lighter with less power but only a second slower in track times. Imagine an electrical motor instantly adding 130lbs of torque. With barely any added weight.
Not to mention the standing start. Nobody ever measures lap times from a standing start. Also 0-100-0 is always measured by distance. However, they had to do something to make the BMW lose or they wouldn't get that sweet cheque from Elon.
@@NeutralGenericUser He started breaking later with the Tesla, that's why he was a different distance from the BMW. But the measured distance was still shorter for Tesla.
I agree. Got my wife a Tesla 3 at Christmas and I own an '16 M4 myself, not an M3, but I think better times can be achieved. I don't have any plans to drive the Tesla this rough nor does my wife, so it was interesting to see. And hats off to you...the latest AMGs have some of the sexiest lines in terms of looks and of course, great performance overall.
Goldenport Park Circuit, Beijing pro race drivers drove the Model 3 ,c63 amg, and BMW m3 and results as follows.
1. Tesla M3
2. C63 Amg
3. bmw m3
Chris Harris will repeat the same results.
Did anyone else feel he wasn’t really giving full effort with the lap time in the BMW? And I’m really not a BMW fanatic.
fghftghfghgf, only BMW fanboys
I did, and I hate BMW
Sort of like the effort you gave to your YouTard name I guess.
TasteMyStinkhole, seems you’ve two stink holes...
fghftghfghgf I dont know what to believe about this model 3... someone beats the gt2rs with it in 0-100 but it loses to an rs3 in a quarter mile even off the launch.
The m2 beats the Tesla model 3 on track but the m3 loses 🤷♂️
I’m at a lost, the m3 beats the m2 and the gt2rs obviously beats the rs3. I think you’re right, the model 3 is an amazing car for the money but there’s a huge reviewer bias present because none of these comparisons add up.
Can Top Gear not find someone more qualified to do this?
That drift algorithm he was on about… that’s literally old news. The BMW has that as well. The Mitsubishi EVO 5 had a yaw sensor, that was like in the 90s
He was driving the beemer as if on a sunday cruise altogether with his ametaur driving skills. Pure biased hogwash. Put Chris Harris behind the wheel and then we will see.
@aj lana yup, just wait for the roadster with thrusters
@aj lana in what world is bmw obsolete? they still have som of the best engines and cars in the world. a f90 m5 comp is literly faster then the dodge demon in a street drag race
Chris Harris tried the model S and he felt motion sickness while driving. So don't expect him to drive any Tesla cars.
Also an F90 m5 competition have a price tag in the 220k+ region. If we are talking those price ranges we could throw in the Tesla Roadster since it's in the same price category.
But if you put the roadster in that playing field it's going to smoke that bmw. Errr... leave in the dust I mean, because there's no exhaust.
Tesla smoke the m3 😂😂😂😂
rampage the sneaky lil bitch lol that means nothing a viper acr or Camaro zl1 1le would still smoke any bmw.
3:24 Microsoft XP wallpaper! ....
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Windows XP.
That sling shot pick up, isn't that fun too?😅
If I could unsubscribe from any channel that I was already unsubscribed from, it would have to be this one.
Can we let someone have a go who knows what they're doing please?
@aj lana I'm not the biggest fan of BMW's latest offerings, but to call BMW obsolete and failed ignorant at best. They sell very well. I think the fact that the BMW was so close in time even though it was way down in torque, one of the more important factors in such a tight course, is a testament to the engineering.
Regardless of anyone's views, I think we can all mutually agree which we'd rather have on the track.
Edit: As someone else said, have the test at a higher speed course and the result would probably be different.
what on earth are you talking about .... hope its not the i-pace because that is not better than a Tesla.@Tomi Hanzo
Yes, one must always have something to blame for. If you think he was doing something wrong, then you can do the same test yourself!
@Tomi Hanzo It is a particularly hard job to compete with those who have 100 +/- years of experience, so then it is quite impressive that a beginner like Tesla has managed to give them competition, and they have also improved, which is going to continue. Some also think tesla is 10/10 and Jaguar is 8/10 and visa versa.
BMW Forever, it a purist thing, techies will never understand
Top Gear was only Top Gear with the Original Crew.
Oh, with Noel Edmonds, William Woollard, Angela Rippon, Sue Baker? Can't say I agree mate. I much preferred the reboot with Clarkson, May and Hammond. The original crew made the show more factual, rather than entertainment-based like the reboot.
I agree 100% but Jezza, Hamster, and Captain Slow weren't the original but they are known as "The Trio"
Also, this is top gear magazine.. NOT top gear the tv show
More like
First Gear
Yes!!! 😁
Now that Tesla V2 Track Pack is out, what's BMW gonna do??
Remembering "The STIG", because Top Gear in present not more better than old Top Gear.
It would help if you actually drove the M3 on the hot lap like you drove the Tesla...
Yea but then the check from Elon wouldn't land on the Top Gear account... seriously....I've driven a Model 3 on the launch event, it can't even DREAM of being as quick as a regular 3 series. A 335i will wipe the floor with it...yet here they managed to make the M3 slower. LOL. I've seen people with Model 3's at the Nurburging struggle to get it under 9 minutes per lap...not to mention it wont actually do a full lap there because it overheats by like 2/3 of the lap.
BeyerT1 you’ve driven a model 3 but not the model 3 performance? There’s a HUGE difference between the two. It’s instant torque mate. Why do people still get surprised if Tesla’s beat IC cars in the 1/4. It happens, get over it.
@Arif Dianprakasa search model 3 performance nurburgring and tell me that's a slow car. It's a very fast car and very economical can you drive 100km with €2 in the BMW? If you find a ice car that can do that it takes 10min doing 0-100kph
@@derbigpr500 This is a short tight track, therefore the Tesla has the advantage with its acceleration out of corners. The Nurburgring is a faster track with several high speed sections, the Tesla doesn't stand a chance there. So I really don't see any reason to doubt that the model 3 was faster on this specific track. Different tools for different jobs and all that.
@@aljowen perfectly said
I've never seen range measured in MPG before! lol
just another video to promote tesla :D
@@Bv1nte Definitely seemed that way. Made me happy that the BMW trapped significantly quicker than the Tesla over the 1/4mile.
Bv1nte pretty good given Tesla pays $0 for advertising and BMW pays $3 billion/year.
@@MrWufpack The testing was pretty stacked in the Tesla's favour - AWD car with instant torque vs. 2WD car in the hands of a rubbish driver. I'd love to see the lap testing done with Chris Harris at the wheel.
Same for 0-100-0 who the hell mesures the Time instead of the distance?
There are the trio-Top Gear and Chris Harris Top Gear done properly. Then comes this guy Top Gear, which feels like a low production, intern Top Gear.
Just for the records: 0-100-0 isn't measured in time. The shorter the distance, the better it is.
1/4 mile: OK. 0-100-0, OK, maybe. Hot lap (uh, get a pro). Drift? Who cares? How about a slalom, 60-0 braking, 100-0 braking, you know, things that actually matter when driving the car?
@@einfachben0399 No, it was about proving Elon's tweets right or wrong. I had to watch the video again (it's been 10 months!) and I'm even more convinced this was a bullshit test. If it is "about fun," then there should not be a winner. Musk's claims were that the Tesla is 15% quicker, better handling and faster on a track, then those are the things that should be tested and tested well.
1) Musk's claim of 15% quicker: 12,6 sec for M3, 11,9 sec for Tesla. 12,6 x 15% = 1,89 seconds. 12,6 - 1,89 = 10,71. So Elon's first claim is false. The Tesla is 0,7 seconds faster, which is "only" 5,4& quicker. Yes, definitely quicker, but Musk's claim was not correct. That being said, maybe a professional driver could get the Tesla 15% faster. Probably not, as 0-100 in an electric car is dead easy. BMW 1: Tesla 0
2) Better handling: This is where a slalom and even better an autocross with professional drivers should be used as a comparison. In fairness to both cars, it should either be with a driver who races both kinds of cars, or racers of roughly the same level of success/skill in each of the two different kinds of cars
3) The track test should be run by the same as the autocross.
And that is all that should be tested. Having two tests of acceleration without the 15% caveat basically guarantees that the Tesla can't lose. And again, if it were just about "fun" then you don't give scores or times, you just give "impressions" from an average driver taking the cars out about town and on a track.
Wait.. this is a Top Gear video? 😂😂
The noise he was making when he was driving killed me
Now throw everything out of those cars that you dont need. Walter Röhrl: Drifting is good for the show, but bad for the time. Use the whole road and avoid too many corrections"
Wow Top Gear... This was bad for a comparison "test"! Who says a flying start is nonsense and a standing start is how it's done?!?! So you basically had 3 drag races.
Every stig lap ever on top gear began with a standing start though.
That is a good point@@LethalJizzle, but he's not the Stig, as he clearly demonstrated - so consistency is lacking. Plus, they already proved that the Tesla launches quicker, so why not take that out of the equation and just go with a flying lap, like almost all qualifying sessions in motorsport. Just seemed a little biased.
@@NateRisch when you look nurburgring records etc..., they're all standing starts. Only in championships do they use flying starts.
on the other part, I kinda agree that 0-100-0 and 400m races were a bit redundant
Cause a standing start benefits the tesla. Most these comparisons by top gear are bias or set up befor the test. Think about it....a model 3 out performing a m3 on a track?. Nah dont think so with a professional driver. You can tell they didnt want m3 to win buy some of the lines taken on the track. Questionable I think compared to model 3. Leaves me to believe it was meant to win (model3) befor the race started. This is first one I've watched in a long time....now I remember why I quit watching them.
@@61percentodicarica no those track records are made with flying starts.
On what planet does an M3 get 34mpg???
british gallons.
no kidding. I was suspicious of that number and doing a quick search (mind you BMW USA site doesn't list it) shows 2018 17 city / 25 highway.
Our Gallons are bigger than US gallons, it would be 28mpg in US gallons.
However everyone knows those numbers are unrealistic tbh.
Maybe they forgot the 1...
As the (M)odel(3) gets around 134mpg(e)
You know.. only like 5x the m3
oh gosh didn't realize there was UK and US gallons (first being 1.2x bigger). Even after 35 years in the US I still can't stand the imperial system. That adds another wrinkle.
Thank you for subtitles
this guy is complaining the sound of M3 engine makes him not able to hear the tire, lol
This is why i love CARWOW channel
Underrated comment
loloolo
For the fun or for the actual cold blooded testing?
Really carwow? Into dad-jokes are ya?
Results would have been more credible, if Chris Harris drove.
Have a look on this, same results in China with a professional pilot
ruclips.net/video/q-QVKMOD_hU/видео.html
Chris Harris has already taught such complete nonsense about the model S let’s not let him in the car
Player hater
I WATCHED HIM REVIEW A TESLA AND HE WAS CLUELESS. HE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CAR OR HOW TO ADJUST IT'S HANDLING THEN WENT ON TO COMPLAIN ABOUT GETTING CAR SICK.
@@MICHGO1 Watched the review of Chris Harris about the Tesla. And it's completely far from what you are even saying. All his points clearly makes sense and he actually enjoyed driving the car and at the same time he pointed out the flaws of the Tesla Model S P100D such as the build quality and how 1 trick ponies they are. (Being only faster off line up to 0 - 100 MPH and 1/4 Mile Times) and how a slow 500 BHP Porsche GT3 with a manual transmission sports car that can catch up and beat it above that speed.
That's not how a go-to-woe works. You measure it in distance 😂 eejits
4:47 Ladies and Gentlemen hold on tight coz you are going to hear the joke of the year from this funny guy
I didn't know that Top Gear now use the same production team as the Telly Tubbies ???
😂😃😆😆
I can't believe how bad this driver is
John Cena he is an above average driver ,but I agree that he’s not “good enough” for this kind of tests
Its relative, right? Even a super pro driver the results are the same. The numbers might be better but the results are the same.
If he's driving both cars it shouldn't matter how good or bad he is.
Enrique Madera I get your point but its not like that ,there are easy to drive fast cars (tesla 4wd low senter of gravity,instant torque)and hard to drive fast cars( the bmw rwd higher senter of gravity atc ),that means that a “bad driver” will be faster with the Tesla even if the bmw had the straight line performance just because the bmw is more challenging to drive on the limit
@@duketlam9206 nope. Its much easier to drive a AWD electric car than the M3. On the Nürburgring with non semi-slicks the Tesla wont go under 8 minutes.
I didn't realize this was a Top Gear video until I read the comments and checked the top right corner of the video to confirm....... This is Hideous
the model 3 has a party mode for drftin