The 2024 Subaru BRZ tS Is A Track Focused STI Tuned Affordable Sports Car
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2024
- Affordable sports cars are not dead and #Subaru has just made the latest #SubaruBRZ more appealing with the reintroduction of the #BRZtS. This is a #BRZ that has been #TunedBySTI, the company's in-house performance division and while it lacks the additional turbo power that some enthusiasts wanted, it also has upgraded brakes, suspension, and styling to make this as close as possible to a #BRZSTI.
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I bought a '23 BRZ 6 spd Limited as a fun car, but had to sell it because the arthritis in my knees was killing me when I drove it (yes I am a older retired dude.) Fortunately I got most of my money back. It was a fun car to drive. I live in So Cal with lots of canyon roads to explore, Angeles Crest being one of them. Perfect car for the task. I was never disappointed with the car, more in myself and my aging knees. Oh well, manuals are not an option for me anymore.
So have you found another car for fun? I’m lucky my left knee is still ok for now but the sun is setting on living with my 22 Limited.
I recently got a 2012 BRZ with HKS stage 1 supercharger kit. Similar performance to the new 2.4 - but more low down torque. Being older (60+) myself the 1st thing I noticed was: really low to get into/out and harsh ride. However I have adapted: using the lower door sills to lever myself out really helped and I quickly adapted to the ride, Enjoying the car. The steering is amazing (the car has HKS front shocks with altered geometry which really is nice)!
I appreciate how much you thoroughly enjoyed driving this car. I’m turning 34 and looking to relieve my glory 90s-2000s JDM days
So glad they are still making these!
Not a "wing" fan. This car looks much cleaner without a wing to me.
Agree 👍
It's the track spec.
A wing slows the car down.
@@legionmartin in a straight line yes
The wing looks like false advertising. If you want gauche buy the Supra.
I drove a Supra and GR86 back to back and can honestly say I did really notice the turbo lag in the Supra compared to the instance NA response of the GR86. So I do agree that a turbo would indeed very negatively impact the character and driving experience, so it isn't just a cop out from Toyota/Subaru. Also, adding a turbo on this would kinda kill the Supra sales even more...
" backseat is small, for your in-laws you don't like". lol
Back seat isn't for humans, it's for track tires.
MSRP for the tS per Subaru website is $35,345 and you can get one at that price if you are willing to wait. The interior is not identical to the lower models. It's not a drag car if that's what you are looking for. And the fake engine sound can be permanently disabled in two minutes.
You did not say anything re. tS suspension vs. regular one. Did you feel any difference/improvement? Otherwise, a great review - thanks.
Beautiful trim and package!
If I didn’t have my 2018 BRZ RS (Canadian Spec) I would instantly consider this!!
Consider upgrading, especially if you can snag a tS with the big brakes. I own a '22 BRZ and the new generation really is a LOT better than the 1st gen.
Same recommendation as @lucasokeefe7935. Had a 2019 RS and the 2nd gen is really an upgrade, especially the engine.
It's nice and all... but it's basically BRZ with performance package that I have. Is it track ready? I don't know... all of sudden I am happy with my FA20 instead of FA24. At least 1st Gen had proper tS (though later as highest trim)... I'm not so sure with this one. I wish Subaru will address the RTV and oiling issue.
I like the car just like the way it is. I like the clean look of the body, no big wing on the trunk lid. Some people will think it's too basic, not my case, as I said , I like the way it is. I always have said, this car needs a turbo to get better performance. This car and the Miata are cars that I like because they are RWD, they still have a manual transmission and they are fun to drive. Yes, the back seat is for children or luggage not for adults. I'm 1.70m and I would not fit back there.
Didn't it used to have speakers between the rear seats ? I thought that's what reminded me of the GT-R ? Now I'm totally gonna have to check 😅
At 1st I loved the Toyota front but with time now I love the Subaru more. I'd take the normal version because I'm not a track person. I love the review. Great view!
My co-worker just bought a brand new 2024 Toyota GR86, it’s a fantastic looking car and for it having a stock exhaust and N/A 4 banger, it sounds great. It’s juts a bit cramped for me, being 6feet tall and weighing 200plus pounds lol, it’s a cool car though.
Can you review some of the Chinese EVs. BYD and Nio I see they have a (NNA )Nio North America in California
Do they all come with that front color matched plate thing with the holes in it?
They all come with a 2" X 12" paint matched strip with plate mounting holes in it.
Header and a tune header and a tune!
😎 Had to put my shades on because of the sun glare.
Did he let his team go? 2nd video I’ve noticed he’s doing it all on his own again with no videography.
They have some pretty cool cars
If they gave the car a turbo and AWD, they should call it the 22B-RZ 😏
No turbo, no all wheel drive still 40,000 😭😭
@@timkelly5149 MSRP $35,345. Do at least 30 seconds of research before you post nonsense.
Wish there were wheel color options. Dark wheels seem so overdone and basic. I have this car ordered and will now have to change that out $$ right off that bat😢. Dark wheels just seem to blend in its presence and I wish it was a bit more noticeable over the standard brz. I may go gold wheels or hyper silver
I'm planning to purchase a weekend fun car in the next year or so and the BRZ is on the short list, along with the Miata. Contrary to popular opinion, I actually prefer the look of the BRZ over the 86 because it looks more grown up and not as 'boy racer' to me. I hated the wing, so I'm glad it's gone. There is no match for the open top experience offered by the Miata and the 2024 Miata brings some very nice upgrades that should improve how it drives, according to Mazda. I'd be thrilled to own either car, but I suspect the Miata would be more reliable over time. I owned a 2020 Miata and absolutely loved its perfect balance, but I have no experience with the BRZ, so I need to drive them back to back.
Get a miata or an Elantra N . Steer clear of anything poobaru 💩 these boxers are designed to fail and beyond inefficient
@@ItsBunCha You're barking up the wrong tree buddy. I've owns 3 Subies and loved them all. If you have no experience with them, don't embarrass yourself by speaking on it.
I have BRZ & agree on looks over 86 plus the roads where I live are rough. I only get 1 car so needed extra practicality but would have taken ND Miata over BRZ. Also admit I need aftermarket subwoofer that don’t fit in Miata.
2024 ts owner here
If I was shopping for a weekend fun car it would be the ND3 Miata for sure. It's the best miata ever and 2025 will probably be nowhere near as pure.
@@dlg5485 You always get morons posting on these videos.
BRZ over the 86 along with Toyotas service lacking… compared to Subaru’s great service.
Is Subarus service really better? That’s a bummer because my wife works for Toyota whq and I can finally get a GR86 at employee price. Not a huge discount but still better than msrp + dealer adds.
@@boughtandpaidforautoreview1150 I’ve had poor experiences and a few friends that have Toyotas in other states as well. Nothing but good things to say about Subaru’s service.
@@boughtandpaidforautoreview1150Do the 86 if you can get employee pricing
Does Toyota offer an equivalent to this trim level or what this trim level offers for the GR86?
think the trueno does... but a very big difference in price
Yes the Trueno is the Toyota equivalent…
You can install performance package on any trim, that gets you these brakes in different color and different but upgraded suspension. Since Toyota doesn't do orders, I am not sure how many would come pre installed, I am going to guess not many.
@@ruturaj47 not to mention some countries don't even have the PP option. I know that the Canadian website does not have the PP option, but you can always buy a premium model and mod it yourself.
I kinda appreciate this car doesn’t have a big wing because it kept it from being classed up in SCCA autocross.
Is it STi tuned or GR tuned?
See now, that’s a very good question: looks more GR tune than STI tuned.
Feel the same way about the looks of the first and second gen BRZ vs. 86.
So basically brembos and upgraded dampers?
I guess I don’t get it. I think the Subaru front end looks much nicer than the Toyota. Plus I don’t want to deal with Toyota dealerships customer service issues. I have a new Forrester Wilderness and the dealership customer service is good. I have read about Toyota dealership service and parts departments and understand they are very bad
Some people like the GR86 catfish face front end! All just personal preference.
is carplay standard?
Yes. But it isn’t wireless.
Wired carplay. If you want wireless, or just to charge your phone at better than 1amp you'll need a box. (There's some good ones out there though)
@@entropy11 good to know👍
Looks very similar to a cayman. Sexy!
Should be a convertible hardtop 4 or 2 seater
I was never able to go pass that 184 lb ft of torque. I don't know man
It’s plenty on the street for such a light car, I’d recommend experiencing one vs letting the number decide. So much more than a number !
I was also thinking the torque is kind of low but then this is naturally aspirated engine, it's not that torquey. True, it's good to experience one. The worst thing is if later on you'll find the car feels underpowered.
Slightly underrated I’ve seen dyno’s that 240 hp 198 torque. It’s plenty enough in 2800 lbs car out on highway/ twisty roads. Track rats might want more. It’s heaven compared to NA Miata I had in 90’s
@@TrojanRabbit521Definitely underrated. Bone stock they put 215 to the wheels on a dyno, and if you take the carbon diaper out of the intake you'll instantly get a couple more.
Heated mirrors in a car not many would drive in snow
I would have rather got the remote folding mirror option than heat.
Please let the “turbo” B.S. go.
1. The turbo goes underneath the engine on an FA24 and, because the engine is mounted so low (for Porsche beating low CoG) there is zero room for it.
2. It’s an “affordable” sports car. If it were a turbo it would no longer be “affordable”, nor would it be light because the entire driveline would need to be upgraded to handle the torque. That would then mean bigger and heavier and more expensive “everything”.
3. You’d have a car whose only rivals are the Nissan Z and the Supra…and why would Toyota want that?
Let the turbo thing go. It ain’t happening as long as the car uses a boxer engine.
That’s a lot of effort to justify why this car is so slow lol.
@@OleMisssThey are NEVER going to build a turbo version. It’s meant to be an “affordable” sports car which it is. If you want “faster” then you need to spend more money, this isn’t your car.
As a 1st generation BRZ owner, never needed a turbo. It keeps the car bulletproof and if I want a turbo, there's always a WRX. 93k miles and still drives like a new. I intend to keep my BRZ for a long ass time. Some people will never understand that. At worst, there are plenty of aftermarket forced induction options too.
@@OleMisssdo you think people buy these for straight line performance? 😂
@@ruturaj47 Want to go fast in a straight line? Buy an EV
That instrument panel cluster is too simple. In this case I'd actually prefer if it was analog with a screen in the center
Simple, but it displays everything
@richardhoulton4016 I agree. It just think that analog gauges looks better
@@gio_a_o I get that. I actually don’t like the strip tachometer in “sport/track mode”. I wish you could retain the default display in sport/track
These bots are quick!
I don’t get it..
@@xDiP18xlook at half the comments…
@@Trance786 sounds like something a bot would say
There is a local Subatu dealer selling a TS for $47,000.....! So, fuck the TS lmao.
Mine was ready to order one at invoice. 😂
Report them to subaru of America. Subaru will fine dealers who mark up above msrp
@@robertshetterly3659 really? How do I do that!?
Won't call it track ready until the fix the oil pressure issues.
Kinda agree
I've heard a baffled oil pan does the trick.
@@najirban Probably does, but Subaru should be addressing it in production.
The Ring Taxi on Nurnberg track has had zero issues. Brakes & sequential gearbox is their only mods.
Oil starvation is probably an issue on specific tracks. Very few cars are sold with baffled oil pans stock.
Previously the brz was so much slower than a v6 Camry but ooh 😮 now it’s right on its tails 😅
its slightly ahead now haha
Speed is only 1 aspect of driving except drag racing & NASCAR
🙏
Can't wait for the BRZ hybrid and electric.
Why the heck are you talking so fast??
NEEDS a sti hood scoop FUNCTIONAL ❤😊
Love Subaru but it’s missing…moonroof, spoiler and log lights
Moon roof? Are you kidding Mack?
Paint matched GR86 spoilers are available as are OEM auxiliary LED "log" lights. Moonroof? You're out of luck.
I got your moon roof right here pal
“No paddles for the automatic”
Is eyesight standard? If so, hard pass being a performance car. Love it completely otherwise.
Yeah, but I've seen that you can disable the auto braking in settings.
Subaru/toyota will create new variations of the same car by still not add hp
40k before dealer mark ups, no more hp, identical interior, minor changes to suspension, manual everything inside. Just get the base. If you’re going to track the car, you’ll pick your own wheels and suspension anyway, and likely for less anyway.
It’s 34 wdym I got one coming in June
Mine cost me almost 37 if I got the stray bars and some other garbage it would have been 39 max
MSRP $35,345. Interior is not identical. Do at least 30 seconds of research before you post nonsense.
@@jukeboxzero1 1:42. As tested 36K, quit frothing your jowls over your keyboard and lmk when you’re done coping. The car is identical to a base model on the inside.
@@0ri 1:42
@@tilly7326what’s your point?
Subaru will do everything but put a turbo on this car
TS stands for something else. Like when you try to buy this car.
I had the same experience - took months to get the tS on order through a second dealership as well
BRZ is better. Subaru did it best first. Too many Toyota lovers blinded by the cult of Toyota. BRZ in fact has some better parts, so I don't get the condesceding comments about it compared to the Yota.
I must say I always thought thwy looked good. Im not a coup guy but damt that looks good FR 😁👍
It blows my mind that they still refuse to turbo these. Another 50 hp on this would be perfect
Cost, everyone is already complaining about price. Turbos would make it heavier and more expensive. People will get the base Z then
@@stevornrichards1380 I'd rather spend the extra and get the base z as it stands now
@@dennylafoss yep
They will never build a turbo boxer version. They’d have to redesign the entire car. It’s never going to happen. Buy a Z or a Supra if that’s what you want.
You need a rear mounted turbo
Disgusting to not include a spare tire.
Thing already weighs over 2800 pounds
Mf it's a sports car.go buy another tire yourself
Drama queen!!! This car ain't for you.
Perhaps mount it to the roof?
It's to save weight. If u need a spare down get ts
Why STi badge, it's an atmospheric engine.. weird choice !
Brakes and suspension that's why
The hell is with this standard eyesight technology, im not paying for this i dont want it in my future wrx.... I will not be buying a new wrx if they insist on installing a tech package on the car and i will not use it. Make it an option or you will loose 40k from me...
'22 doesn't have eyesight. Only a fool would pay $40K.(There are a few posting comments here). $31K new for a '22 Limited.
Why not v6?!
If they offer this car with v6 i will grab a one directly.
Buy a Supra. This isn’t you car.
It looks nice, but in this day & age of suv's and EV'S getting popular, i need more power. I have no kids, and i often find myself wanting a mid-size SUV over any sports car
😂 flask
Remember the seat speakers in the Pontiac Fiero g t ?
That ONE body HIT!
😂 I don't know why.But I just like the same with the 1989 chrysler labaron coop !? I jumped on the Crossfire..dissatisfied but it had potential. Like the newer Thunderbird and Prowler. 😂 HAHAHA still love mine. Fight me.
Look at this cheap plastic, $40 Gs, for this. Cmon. Maybe 20.
MSRP $35,345. Do at least 30 seconds of research before you post nonsense.
Fake STi, might as well buy the standard version.
No pal
Recommends premium for maximum performance…what performance? 😂
Says the guy who sinks down in his seat every time he sees a Tesla.🤣😂
@@jukeboxzero1 never said I had performance either 😂 but 485hp is good enough honestly
@@f8widescat392 485 HP is great for the drag strip. Take it to a road course (you know - a track with turns and elevation changes) and there will be plenty of lower HP cars passing you by.
Yawn…
meh rear
No thanks i rather to keep my 2006 wrx w 300 hp much better
Ohh, we were so worried 😂
@@ruturaj47 i don't care what you think
@@walteraviles1084 feeling is mutual between you and almost everyone else. 🤣
I keep my bugeye in the same garage as my BRZ. One for winter, one for summer.
Pretty gutless...kinda like the Supra..yet fun to drive?
They did give us a LITTLE bit more power in 2023 but they're AGGRESSIVELY making it as BLAH...mehh..visually BORRRINNNG . NEEDS a wrx functional hood scoop AND tasteful rear wing. Definitely NEEDS a sun/moon-roof ! Needs to lean into the whole Go-Kart feel. Rather than the grampa/Tampon hybrid.
( Aesthetically ) . This SHOULD be the much less expensive yet as fun as the Mazda Miata. I've had three of these so far and will hopefully get another one as soon as one that looks better is available. I think they're kinda like a mini Nissan GT-R in form if not funtion. I have a couple of both and maybe it's the rear seats?
ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE for ANY sports-car to lack semi-functional rear seats these days !
I LOVE my Roma, and Portofino..I'm DEEPLY in love with my 911s ! The new Targa ❤😂
2023 Lexus LC 500
BMW s and The 2024 Mercedes-AMG GT..🤬 if it's ever flippin delivered !
I know I have an addiction.
I have the same thing with my Bowflexs and Total gyms 😂 and soon the Tonal and a couple others.
Not electric hard pass
Yeah…‘cause we all want a 2 tonne sports car.