A Routine Takeoff almost Turns into Australia's Worst Disaster | Terror in Brisbane (Real Audio)

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  • Опубликовано: 22 фев 2023
  • On 18 July 2018, an Airbus A330-300 operating as Malaysia Airlines flight MH134 begins its takeoff roll on runway 01. As the aircraft accelerates through 50 kts, red speed flags appear on both primary flight displays, and the plane takes off with no airspeed information. Find out what really happened.
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  • @YHBW1001
    @YHBW1001 Год назад +537

    Wow! The Australian ATC delivery is buttery smooth. Clear, concise and so easy to understand.
    Why do so many other ATCs around the world rush and gabble their words. Even if you are working a busy sector, it doesn’t have to be so fast and frantic.

    • @cooperdodson7518
      @cooperdodson7518 Год назад +48

      I was just thinking the same. Sometimes I wonder if the controllers in the ATL airspace are even speaking English.

    • @Shermanbay
      @Shermanbay Год назад +1

      You are assuming that the audio presented on RUclips is the original. But the video is not. Often these YT videos recreate one aspect or all. Unless we verify the source of the audio track, it might be added by the YT creator.

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 Год назад +79

      @@Shermanbay I'm almost certain that this is the original ATC from the incident.

    • @johneyon5257
      @johneyon5257 Год назад +65

      @@Shermanbay - TFC puts up a graphic indicating that what we're hearing are "real communications between the flight crew and ATC" - which is displayed at 6:14

    • @Shermanbay
      @Shermanbay Год назад +1

      @@watershed44 OK, it was just a thought.

  • @gwats19577
    @gwats19577 Год назад +217

    I fueled Airliners for 5 years in Denver...One day, I was fueling a 737-200 for Continental Airlines, and noticed a red sticky fluid oozing down the bottom side of the wing near my fuel panel... The first officer was doing his his required walk around and walked right past it... I yelled at him, he turned around, and I pointed at the leak: Hydraulic fluid...He looked, cursed under his breath, and called for a line mechanic... the leak was repaired and the plane left late but safe... If you see something, SAY something....everyone who touches that plane is responsible for it's safety, even a lowly fueler like me...🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @melissaleoncreolenola
      @melissaleoncreolenola Год назад +29

      Exactly you saved lives thank you

    • @BtcSimmer
      @BtcSimmer Год назад +21

      You may have saved many lives good work as difficult as it can seem sometimes speaking up is very important thank you!

    • @kalliou6up
      @kalliou6up Год назад +15

      I’m all seriousness Thank you for your service

    • @Easy_Going__
      @Easy_Going__ Год назад +29

      No such thing as a lowly worker. You’re an integral part of many people’s lives, even if they don’t know it 😉

    • @smater332000
      @smater332000 Год назад +12

      Good man! Do your duty and Godspeed.

  • @privatepilot4064
    @privatepilot4064 Год назад +332

    The classic and dreaded “Chain of Events” that can lead to disaster. These guys were very fortunate. Aviation can be quite unforgiving. There were so many opportunities to break the chain. Complacency can be deadly.

    • @themanof83
      @themanof83 Год назад +7

      The good old Swiss cheese. Luckily a tasty sandwich made this time around...

    • @Willoz269
      @Willoz269 Год назад +4

      Approach controller RP is a fantastic professional, he handled this really well

    • @AquaMarine1000
      @AquaMarine1000 Год назад +1

      They have the crash record to prove it.

    • @metalgearsolidsnake6978
      @metalgearsolidsnake6978 11 месяцев назад

      spiderman into the spiderverse< crazy they landed, in Peru and Egypt they crashed.

  • @RomNYC
    @RomNYC Год назад +289

    That DEP/ARR ATC is so calming and reassuring, he should create his own ASMR youtube channel. What a pro!

    • @hachimaru295
      @hachimaru295 Год назад +8

      hes not the one with one foot in the door about to meet his maker

    • @hachimaru295
      @hachimaru295 Год назад +3

      @Kichiro I think I do

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 Год назад +6

      @@hachimaru295 True, however I think they get training in this aspect of things because they do not want to contribute to a higher stress level inside the cockpit.

    • @hachimaru295
      @hachimaru295 Год назад +1

      @@watershed44 yes agreed

    • @vkobi8208
      @vkobi8208 Год назад +7

      Australian ATC are pretty good

  • @virginiaviola5097
    @virginiaviola5097 Год назад +223

    ATC here makes me proud to be an Aussie. Clear, concise and on point. Poor old Malaysian had a bad run there for a while, glad this incident didn’t make it a trifecta and all ended well. Such a simple oversight that has had such catastrophic consequences on other flights.

    • @capio78
      @capio78 Год назад +6

      agreed that guy is very calm, confident and assured.

    • @asdf3568
      @asdf3568 Год назад +3

      A bad run? He literally shone the lights on the pivot tubes and didn't notice. I hope he never flies a plane ever again.

    • @ironlionzion1380
      @ironlionzion1380 Год назад +2

      That was complete negligence that nearly cost the lives of hundreds of Australians. I wouldn't be so forgiving.

    • @iansharp7422
      @iansharp7422 Год назад +1

      Surprised this airline has survived.

    • @philgray3443
      @philgray3443 Год назад

      You have to thank them for actually having the quick thinking that got it back on the ground. Pitot tubes are almost medieval, you would think a better mechanism would exist by now.

  • @theycallmetundraboy914
    @theycallmetundraboy914 Год назад +461

    "Reduced diligence" is such a kind way of saying "laziness."

    • @kirkmorrison6131
      @kirkmorrison6131 Год назад +19

      Or tired if they had a few jump flights on the way

    • @JimboShogun0686
      @JimboShogun0686 Год назад +17

      Or because everyone everyone trusts everyone to do thier jobs correctly because that's what usually happens they slipped up plus they had other planes and reports to do that day

    • @chitlitlah
      @chitlitlah Год назад +34

      Now I want to use that when calling into work. "Sorry boss, I'm not going to be able to make it today. I'm experiencing reduced diligence."

    • @6teezkid
      @6teezkid Год назад +6

      You said it❗️ I don’t know why I watch these damn flight videos. I've always been a flight freak, and I know these vids are about a "troubled situation" that occurred. And while hearing of the "miscommunications" and "reduced diligence", I start yelling at them. 😂🥴
      First off, when the aircraft arrives, some guy decides (on his own) to cover the pitot probes. WHY? Is he ASSUMING this plane is getting tucked in for bed that night in Brisbane?? *shrug*.
      Secondly, the LAE team's ONLY purpose there was to check for any anomalies. The one engineer, who sees probes are covered goes up to flight deck and tells the guy who is writing down any data that the probes are covered, yet he doesn't take immediate note about it (puzzling the man who told him).
      Thirdly, the Captain does his visual walk-around, and his torch is aimed at the probe. You cannot miss seeing those streamers hanging from probes. That's their purpose. He must've not wanted to know is airspeed on upcoming flight back to Kuala Lumpur. The First Officer has the helm, yet he and the Captain both see the red warning light on their instrument panels 10 seconds before VR...plenty of time to decide to abort or take off and do a go-around to come back.
      Instead, "to hell with it all, let's just get up to 15,000 ft."
      And I'm hollering at them all. It's a miracle there's not 10 crashes a year.

    • @raccuia1
      @raccuia1 Год назад +5

      Indeed. Just sloppy, cut corners, no crosses on the t's no dots on the i's

  • @aadixum
    @aadixum Год назад +196

    Everything wrong happened on the ground, and everything right happened in the air. Luckily the pilots did not panic like those on Air France 447.

    • @2tall2handle1
      @2tall2handle1 Год назад +21

      Air France 447 paid too much attention to the automated system instead of just flying the plane. The pitot tubes would have come back in time.

    • @hachimaru295
      @hachimaru295 Год назад +11

      looking at their back up, ground speed radar , back speed indicator on the plane and atc giving speed feedback aswell they didnt have the all alone feeling of it happening in the middle of the ocean

    • @aadixum
      @aadixum Год назад +15

      @@2tall2handle1 And the pilots panicked, lost all coordination, and the plane stalled.

    • @biggusdickus2783
      @biggusdickus2783 Год назад +1

      @@aadixum It was only the first officer that panicked and stalled the plane, the other 2 pilots didn't understand what he was doing until too late.

    • @FirstLast_Nba
      @FirstLast_Nba Год назад +9

      Please don't mention France 447 again, it triggers everyone far too much, with good reason.

  • @theracingguy4739
    @theracingguy4739 Год назад +8

    The amount of lesser known crashes their are baffles me but this guys great at showing them

  • @FinePilot
    @FinePilot Год назад +21

    The purpose of the captain's walk around was only to spot problems like this.
    It shows how we take procedures for granted when we do them for quite a long time.
    Great Video TFC.

    • @conorlauren
      @conorlauren Год назад +2

      Expectancy bias is a brutal thing.

    • @FinePilot
      @FinePilot Год назад +1

      @@conorlauren Exactly, like if it didn't happen till now, it won't happen ever again.

    • @conorlauren
      @conorlauren Год назад

      @@FinePilot
      “Normalization of deviance.”

  • @spiritmatter1553
    @spiritmatter1553 Год назад +22

    You made me look up “prospective memory.” So I learned something today. Thanks.

    • @johneyon5257
      @johneyon5257 Год назад +6

      i gotta remember to look that up ;)

    • @trumpwon8064
      @trumpwon8064 Год назад

      Do you mates know what a koala bear is?

  • @nicknico4121
    @nicknico4121 Год назад +15

    Such a good communication between the pilot and the regional traffic controller.

    • @ageingfast
      @ageingfast Год назад +3

      I thought so too, the pilot was unflustered and calm under the trying circumstances and the ATC was calm and his voice very relaxed which must have made the pilot feel comfortable instead of tense. Tower was good too. It's a very stressful job and both tower and ATC were impeccable in the way they communicated with the pilot.

  • @johndoyle4723
    @johndoyle4723 Год назад +69

    Some employees should lose their jobs over this. The pitot tubes are vital, which is why they are duplicated, or triplicated, shocking failure of procedures.
    Thanks for another excellent simulation, with no casualties.

    • @watershed44
      @watershed44 Год назад +11

      @johndoyle4723
      I agree inexcusable is what I see going on with this incident. So many lazy, sloppy, and inattentive personnel.

    • @niraj_dave
      @niraj_dave Год назад +4

      reinforced inspection training should take place every month or so-just to keep in mind all little things-because literally lives depends of identifying such crucial thing-

    • @mikek8377
      @mikek8377 Год назад +6

      Agreed!! And for sure, the captain needs to be one of them.

    • @tiadaid
      @tiadaid Год назад +2

      @@mikek8377 You'd probably be surprised to know that THIS HAPPENED AGAIN AT BRISBANE last year. But this time, it involved a Singapore Airlines flight.
      So maybe it's not so much the pilot, but the ground crews that needs to be further scrutinized...

    • @niraj_dave
      @niraj_dave Год назад

      @@tiadaid no surprise there..which is why I mentioned on having training again and again..which should take care of this..because ultimately MRO companies don't have that kind of money lying around to pay up big sums of money in a lawsuit if a tragedy occurs. That's why attentive training should help.

  • @cikame
    @cikame Год назад +110

    I am used to hearing every pilot refer to takeoff speeds religiously (V1 and V2), it's a pretty simple decision to abort the takeoff if there's no airspeed indication, there were so many mistakes before that but it really shouldn't have gone any further.

    • @dx1450
      @dx1450 Год назад +15

      That's what I was thinking... usually the pilot monitoring is watching the speed and will call out V1 and V2, so if they weren't getting any speed reading they should have aborted before getting to the V1 speed.

    • @omarimack194
      @omarimack194 Год назад +3

      Yeah, but you can’t abort a takeoff if you don’t know whether you’re at V1 or not. 🤷🏿‍♂️
      Just my thoughts.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Год назад +4

      plenty of blame to go around, that's for sure...

    • @h.martinez
      @h.martinez Год назад +16

      ​@@omarimack194that's why you always announce "airspeed alive". If the airspeed is not alive, you reject the takeoff. Simple as that.

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 Год назад +12

      @@omarimack194 Non-existent air data is ALWAYS a reason to abort.

  • @roberthagedorn290
    @roberthagedorn290 Год назад +16

    The ground communication before takeoff goes from "F" to "A+++++" after the aircraft is airborne. Everyone had to be functioning at top level to ensure a safe landing. This was an outstanding job by the flight crew and the controllers.

  • @fredashay
    @fredashay Год назад +116

    Suggestion: Attach RFID tags to the streamers of all pitot tube covers. Then have sensors at key points where taxiways intersect the runways to detect these RFID tags that alert the tower before the aircraft is given clearance to take off. No modification to the aircraft needed.

    • @lukeduke6693
      @lukeduke6693 Год назад +9

      I don't feel like it

    • @Blovi-qd4lh
      @Blovi-qd4lh Год назад +17

      Or have these ‘professionals’ do their stinking jobs.

    • @Blovi-qd4lh
      @Blovi-qd4lh Год назад +22

      Guy flying not checking airspeed on takeoff roll..WTF is he looking at? On takeoff roll, the ONLY things to look at after engines at full power is lineup and…..AIRSPEED.

    • @philiphumphrey1548
      @philiphumphrey1548 Год назад +15

      I've wondered about covers that would simply rip off cleanly above a certain airspeed. They would have to be made of something soft and shreddable that would not damage a jet engine if they were ingested.

    • @privatepilot4064
      @privatepilot4064 Год назад +11

      @@Blovi-qd4lh Sounds like you might have a patent opportunity there. A little tweaking to the concept and it could be viable. Something you should jump on. Maybe a proximity alert in the cockpit? Similar to RFID tags utilized on merchandise in a store to prevent shoplifting. Great idea. And relatively inexpensive. But could be invaluable at saving lives.

  • @ryanlester761
    @ryanlester761 Год назад +30

    Man, this is a perfect example of the Swiss Cheese Model effect of an accident, minus the catastrophic accident, luckily. It's unbelievable how many people missed the pitot covers in this situation.

    • @catprog
      @catprog Год назад +5

      The final pieces of cheese did not have the hole in them which made it an incident not an accident.

    • @ryanlester761
      @ryanlester761 Год назад +2

      @catprog true. Good point. 👍

  • @Iranian-edits
    @Iranian-edits Год назад +4

    Best simulator channel in youtube

  • @gregqualtieri609
    @gregqualtieri609 Год назад +21

    When I was in the Navy and working on C2, We had just got done washing it. the crew and the ground crew myself included. Everything looked normal. A C2would fly itself off the ground with no input from the pilot. The bird lifted off and just as quick set back down. They taxied to the gate the copilot opens the over hatch. leans out and takes the tape off the pilot tubes. No one said anything at least 10 people missed the tape after the was job. They taxied out and had a nice flight after that. No got in trouble due to the crew also missing the tape.

  • @venderstrat
    @venderstrat Год назад +10

    The level of visual detail in these episodes is amazing. In the background we see the Gateway Bridge. It IS Brisbane airport!

    • @Classickoolcars
      @Classickoolcars Год назад

      And the old Alpha flight catering truck. Awesome stuff. 👍.

  • @Chadleyization
    @Chadleyization Год назад +11

    They were lucky. There was a similar disaster in Peru (Aeroperú Flight 603) with 70 lives lost. They should make the pitot covers glow in the dark or have flashing LEDs on them at night. Or make them visible from the cockpit window. Or have them attached to a hook in the ground or a weight or something, so when the aircraft pushes back, they pop off.

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 Год назад +4

      Aeroperu had the static ports taped over. It's even worse. You lose height information too. Birgenair 301 crashed due to mud wasps building a nest in the Captain's pitot tube but both of the other two were OK. The Captain however ignored the working ASI's (FO's and standby).

    • @j.avaldes9856
      @j.avaldes9856 Год назад +1

      Aeroperu was an absolute nightmare, and the first officer was way the only one thinking in that cabin. Here at least everyone was aware faster of an error, and return to the airport inmmediatly, something that aeroperu did not sadly.

    • @amerniss
      @amerniss Год назад +1

      Its a mandatory entry in the log book now whenever pitot probe cover is installed. Basically aircraft cannot fly until the log book entry is cleared

  • @robbflynn4325
    @robbflynn4325 Год назад +60

    Hey, they got it back on the ground safely. That's the most important thing.

    • @jds7410
      @jds7410 Год назад +5

      They were lucky

    • @privatepilot4064
      @privatepilot4064 Год назад +12

      Now they need to use that as a lesson by utilizing it as a way to prevent it from occurring again. The next time it occurs it may not have as good of an outcome.

    • @BigSlickNuts2
      @BigSlickNuts2 Год назад +3

      I was thinking the same thing ,these stories usually end in carnage .

    • @markallison4794
      @markallison4794 Год назад +2

      My first thought. After so many fuck ups, including by the pilots during take-off, that crew did what they needed to--they flew the aircraft.

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 Год назад +2

      In case anyone forgot there was an Air France flight out of Brazil to France that suffered the same problem. All souls on the plane perished.

  • @terryhughes7349
    @terryhughes7349 Год назад +41

    It's a shame the pitot tubes don't have a warning when they are blocked or covered. Great video!

    • @eylandaviation5561
      @eylandaviation5561 Год назад +22

      They do - it's the lack of airspeed on the takeoff roll. There was plenty of time to abort.

    • @fbello18
      @fbello18 Год назад +4

      I agree with Terry, they should create a warning to advise pilots just after turning on the engines that something is wrong with pitot tube.
      But we should say that those guys are completely blind from not being able to see the red flags - this is insane !

    • @johneyon5257
      @johneyon5257 Год назад +7

      you mean like the streamers drooping from the pitot tubes which several people missed or ignored - or procedures that several people ignored (including the pilot who failed to record the coverings as reported to him) - or the big red light that indicates invalid airspeed data during the takeoff roll and before V1

    • @gireeshgprasad7589
      @gireeshgprasad7589 Год назад +3

      @@fbello18 Pitot tubes come to life only when there's a sufficient pressure difference between the outside and inside ends of the tube - which happens as the aircraft starts attaining speed. That's why airspeed indicators don't start indicating until about 45 kts. So it's impossible to check if they're working as soon as the engines start.
      It's hard to afford this crew team another warning when they have blatantly skipped over so many visual checks and taken off an aircraft with no airspeed indication!

    • @fbello18
      @fbello18 Год назад +2

      @@gireeshgprasad7589 - as an engineer I know is easy to those guys to create a kind of sensor that could give a warning when the plane is taxiing - with a small amount of air coming inside de pitot tube. Just in cases like this one that would be much useful

  • @margeebechyne8642
    @margeebechyne8642 Год назад +10

    So many people didn't follow through with their duties! So glad that all those other people didn't end up paying a price for that! Another great presentation. Thank you.

  • @BrigidSamhain
    @BrigidSamhain Год назад +6

    Gives the words "double check" a whole new meaning

  • @grahamstevenson1740
    @grahamstevenson1740 Год назад +5

    Crazy really that the Captain didn't call for a rejected take-off. That's the whole point of checking for reliable airspeed while the plane is still on the ground and below V1.

  • @marcotroeller7501
    @marcotroeller7501 Год назад +4

    A very Big Thank You for all your well-explained and brilliant visualized videos now and in the past!
    This is seriously one of the very best Top Five Best Accident Analysing channels on RUclips!

  • @borismedved835
    @borismedved835 Год назад +19

    I've always thought it was strange that there's no indication in the cockpit that those covers are in place. That same situation caused at least one crash a few years ago.

    • @iolandagirleanu9006
      @iolandagirleanu9006 Год назад +1

      Aeroperú 603 crashed due to this exact reason. And at that time, pitot covers weren't so obvious and in your face. I can't believe no one saw those covers.

    • @patmx5
      @patmx5 Год назад +8

      There _is_ an indication in the cockpit - when you begin your takeoff roll, the airspeed indicator stays at zero. Since you're supposed to base your rotation to lift off on speed, this should be immediately noticed, and you then pull the noise levers back all the way and stop trying to get into the air.

    • @AlexandruBurda
      @AlexandruBurda 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@iolandagirleanu9006on Aeroperu flight the problem was a covered pitostatic port not the pitot tubes. 🙂
      A bit different and with more serious consequences.

  • @uritaub5441
    @uritaub5441 Год назад +5

    Fantastic Brisbane ATC,

  • @melissaatkin-ivanovich169
    @melissaatkin-ivanovich169 Год назад +10

    Brilliantly done video with amazing detail. I live in Brisbane and it is without a doubt Brisbane International Airport with the Gateway Bridge and Stradbroke Island in the backgrounds. ATC are to be commended on their clear, calm and concise approach to this incident. I have flown MH a couple of times out of BNE to KUL and at this time of the night it’s not really busy. Great result all round even if people may lose their jobs out of it.

  • @rgarlinyc
    @rgarlinyc Год назад +4

    Great story-telling as ever, TFC - thanks a lot. And yeah, "reduced diligence" says it all. Thank G_d for the calm and collected controller nurturing them back down.👏🏻

  • @maxtornogood
    @maxtornogood Год назад +3

    Nice to see positive feedback on Australia's ATC!

  • @Tsheed1
    @Tsheed1 Год назад +3

    I'm glad that A330 had a back up system along with ATC help 💯

  • @countalucard4226
    @countalucard4226 Год назад +8

    Glad to have one where everyone survives.

  • @GeorgeLennon100
    @GeorgeLennon100 Год назад +3

    This event is a clear demonstration why following a checklist to the letter and clear communication are so important and vital for flights

  • @alexandradane3672
    @alexandradane3672 Год назад +6

    A litany of incompetence and negligence . Sadly all to rife amongst airlines today . Be extremely careful with who and whom you fly , to where and when . In my opinion.

  • @ilovetotri23
    @ilovetotri23 Год назад +4

    I love when all goes wrong, there are ways to recover. Great post!

  • @Sleetstream
    @Sleetstream Год назад +6

    The Brisbane ATC is very good at handling. And glad the pilots were able to land the aircraft back safely.

  • @davidb3491
    @davidb3491 Год назад +2

    Aussie ATC, clear, calm & to the point! So many people claim they can't understand Australian English

  • @param888
    @param888 Год назад +35

    that's the reason why we use checklist at first place
    i am not flight engineer but i supported software systems and mostly on release, people do repeat mistakes because of negligence or due to poor judgement of situation and most of time despite having checklist and not completing checks with diligence.
    No matter how boring checklist of similar tasks seem, i always complete it with full attention. I believe this is the lesson for all of us. I always use to think, perhaps i am only person on job who is extra hard on rules etc, i should try to learn to be bit more relax about checklists. Guess what this video makes me feel good about my self also, no matter how odd or cruel you appear among your coworkers but don't ignore checklist, pay full attention, all the times 100 out of 100 times.

    • @antd8667
      @antd8667 Год назад +3

      The red covers with the red streamers on them With remove before flight u mean those !

  • @user-lj9pb9io8n
    @user-lj9pb9io8n Год назад +4

    Another Great Video Thank You to ( The Flight Channel ) 😊👍

  • @simonandrew283
    @simonandrew283 Год назад +3

    Quality channel. Thank you.

  • @vivi6121
    @vivi6121 Год назад

    I'm from Australia, flew out so many times from Brisbane, it's good to know that Aussie ATC has so calm, clear professional people!

  • @peterkoln2837
    @peterkoln2837 Год назад +1

    Great video! Thanks TFC.

  • @thatinventionsus
    @thatinventionsus Год назад +7

    Was expecting the worst after pitot tube blockage, but was pleasantly surprised by the availability of some rudimentary backup systems. Having them is definitely better than having none.

    • @brianturner6729
      @brianturner6729 Год назад +3

      It is rudimentary, and I don't like the need to switch off all 3 ADRs to get it going ! It is inertially based so you do not want a major inertial navigation system problem as well or you need to fly without ANY instruments ! Can be done on ACCURATE data about trim, weight and balance in principle, and flying largely hands off. That should have been done on AF 447 but wasn't. Very difficult unless well trained on handling gross upsets all over the envelope, but that's another story.
      Anyway I think the backup system on Airbus - IF FITTED - is called BUSS - something like back up speed system. Very narrow speed ranges used in case of errors in the inertial navigation, but makes the aircraft flyable with relative ease. Notice that MH134 asked for radar derived speed checks from time to time - just in case there were any significant errors by inertial navigation inputs to BUSS.
      I am concerned that this incident occurred primarily because Brisbane's mud (? IIRC) wasps usually requires delayed or parked aircraft to be protected from them by pitot tube covers. I don't think this was on the ground for very long, so there may have been lack of clarity on whether to use them or not, or on the need to check for their presence as standard. A pity this slipped through because if the pilots had made significant mistakes handling this it could have ended more like AF447. Thankfully an incident, not a disaster.

  • @thedailywin537
    @thedailywin537 Год назад +29

    12:58 "However, associated with the limitations of prospective memory, the operator's engineer subsequently did not remember to do so."
    We don't know if it's because English isn't the channel creator's native language, or if the aforementioned text is a quote taken directly from official documentation regarding this incident. Either way, that's the most cerebral (and diplomatic) way of suggesting an absence of smarts that I can recall reading. Well done to the author of the quote, whomever it may be.

    • @perniciouspete4986
      @perniciouspete4986 Год назад +2

      "whoever," but nice try

    • @arthursmith6854
      @arthursmith6854 Год назад

      "Limitations of prospective memory" can be replaced by the word forgot. The engineer should have been suspended without pay.

    • @MrYfrank14
      @MrYfrank14 Год назад +2

      It reads like it was written by an official, whose job is to investigate and collect facts, not assign blame. So his job requires him to write "stupid" in a very nice way.

  • @susan7462
    @susan7462 Год назад

    I've been a subscriber for a long time and these videos just get better and better TFC - you have introduced me to the fantastic Caleb Etheridge and Kevin Graham. Love the music you add to these stories.

  • @moestrei
    @moestrei Год назад +9

    Aussies...staying cool and focussed even during a crisis 😎😄👍

  • @moh5580
    @moh5580 Год назад +7

    I think your next video should be about FEDEX flight 705

  • @MrCrystalcranium
    @MrCrystalcranium Год назад +68

    The Captain didn't see the red streamers in his flashlight beam because he hadn't expected to see them? Is that what the official report actually said? What's the point of doing a walkaround then? I suppose if there was a busted hydraulic line in a wheel well spewing fluid all around he wouldn't have seen it because he didn't expect to? What a crock! This flight crew has no business ever flying passengers again. Furthermore, all of this could have been avoided if they had aborted the takeoff as they had an eternity, 10 freeking seconds, to do so. Count to 10 to see how much time that feels like. No airspeed data and they rotate anyway. I'm disgusted by this incident. The only professionals in this scenario are the Brisbane ATCs. They help get Dumb and Dumber back on the ground with no loss of life. Ridiculous.

    • @BrigidSamhain
      @BrigidSamhain Год назад +8

      Agreed

    • @tiadaid
      @tiadaid Год назад +5

      It's easy to Monday morning quarterback, but looking at the actual report, it's not as clear cut as it may seem. From the CVR, it seems that the problem was displaying intermittently and by the time it became certain, they were passed V1.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 Год назад +6

      the flight engineer saw them, then forgot to tell anyone!

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 Год назад +1

      @@tiadaid Intermittent airspeed with the pitot covers on ???? That wouldn't happen.

    • @tiadaid
      @tiadaid Год назад

      @@grahamstevenson1740 Read the report. It did state that the issue was intermittent until past V1. Furthermore, the Captain was PNF.

  • @theskig
    @theskig Год назад +1

    This ATC guy is the most understandable I've ever heard in your videos.

  • @randytingen
    @randytingen Год назад +1

    Another fantastic video

  • @FD1CE
    @FD1CE Год назад +4

    Oh gosh someone needed to check my heartrate until the end of the video.
    I got now relieved that they landed back safely.
    Things could go easily terrible, but hopefully flight crew and tower/departure all did so professionally after the takeoff troubleshootings. Before takeoff so many things were wrong!

  • @phanoonki
    @phanoonki Год назад

    Amazing animation reconstruction of the event.
    Beautiful channel!

  • @phylliswurm9473
    @phylliswurm9473 Год назад +1

    Its one of the few times I can understand the pilot and tower. Usually very fast noisy. Good video.

  • @geraldrob5150
    @geraldrob5150 Год назад

    So refreshing on this channel-pilots who value mortality over schedules. Of course its the few crews who do not that add to the interest of the channels consumers.

  • @riverwildcat1
    @riverwildcat1 Год назад +12

    The unwillingness to communicate and use due diligence is a major problem in every industry, and causes serious problems as time passes. Which is sometimes deadly in the transport industry. No excuses suffice! These people were very lucky.

  • @williamthethespian
    @williamthethespian Год назад +2

    Excellent episode. Amazing that a tragedy was averted

  • @henrydenner5448
    @henrydenner5448 Год назад +8

    I must say, those pilots must have been very relieved to have that ATC guy in their corner. He was very clear, very supportive, he was extremely helpful, used that calm, friendly Aussie vocal tone, he really helped them a lot. That was true professionalism, and it must have been very assuring to stressed pilots.

    • @johnh.365
      @johnh.365 Год назад

      I thought the ATC sounded like a women.

    • @Eternal_Tech
      @Eternal_Tech Год назад

      @@johnh.365 The ATC was male but the tower controller was female.

  • @Blovi-qd4lh
    @Blovi-qd4lh Год назад +11

    So….4 individuals gooned this up….2 ground guys and 2 pilots. When I was flying a ‘crewed’ aircraft, we BOTH did the preflight. I’m not gonna trust anybody.

  • @julianmarsh7993
    @julianmarsh7993 Год назад

    They all worked together impeccably.

  • @HellenicWolf
    @HellenicWolf Год назад

    good work man, thanks

  • @kamyagupta4030
    @kamyagupta4030 11 месяцев назад

    Great video as always

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 Год назад +4

    At first I thought that this would end with tragic results, just like Birgenair Flight 301, Aeroperu Flight 603, and Air France Flight 447 did. Thank goodness I was wrong and that the plane made it back to Brisbane safely, although I am quite frustrated that people were negligent enough to completely miss the pitot tube covers in the first place.

  • @marcverresen
    @marcverresen Год назад +1

    I love it when there's no injuries, just bruised egos.

  • @nadiarodrigues6357
    @nadiarodrigues6357 Год назад +2

    When the pitot tubes were first mentioned, I suspected their covers wouldn't be removed. Thankfully everyone lived to tell the tale! Aeroperu flight 603 was not so lucky though...

  • @jds7410
    @jds7410 Год назад +5

    I seem to remember that a recommendation was made that these covers were to be of a bright color so that they would be easily visible preventing such an error

    • @hachimaru295
      @hachimaru295 Год назад

      it helps prevent but how many motorbike riders are still Tboned even though they wear brightly coloured vests

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 Год назад +1

      They ARE a bright colour (red usually) and are marked REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT !

    • @jds7410
      @jds7410 Год назад

      @@grahamstevenson1740 yikes!

    • @jds7410
      @jds7410 Год назад

      @@grahamstevenson1740 how do you fix stupid, lazy and ignorant

  • @JOpethNYC
    @JOpethNYC Год назад

    Good comms between flight crew and ATC 👍👍

  • @capdink
    @capdink Год назад

    The controllers have to be one of the best. Tat was very professional and calm. 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @SuzyQ334
    @SuzyQ334 Год назад

    Gosh, that was tense but the ATC and the pilots handled the situation brilliantly.

  • @alexlindsey6446
    @alexlindsey6446 Год назад +1

    I love the BNE/ARR (aka ATC) for how thorough he is and how clear he speaks. He's not leaving a possibility of being misunderstood or inaudible to chance. LOVE THIS GUY

    • @Willoz269
      @Willoz269 Год назад +1

      He is a top guy and a top controller as well.

    • @alexlindsey6446
      @alexlindsey6446 Год назад

      @@Willoz269 clearly )

  • @TreeofLiberty1791
    @TreeofLiberty1791 Год назад +2

    As a commercial truck driver it amazes me how the pilots don't do a physical inspection of the vehicle before they fly. Because those pit tubes would be critical to inspect before a flight.

  • @MrPLC999
    @MrPLC999 Год назад +24

    OMG The captain could have easily seen the RBF tags if he was actually concerned for the lives of his passengers. And then he should have ordered an abort as soon as the speed warnings appeared. It's a miracle they got back down safely. MH sure has taken some big hits in recent years.

    • @nikmansol
      @nikmansol Год назад +4

      I lived in Malaysia 5 years it’s not wonder trust me

  • @wixom01
    @wixom01 Год назад +1

    Always a nail biter watching these videos, but thankfully everyone survived this incident. Yay!

  • @mbvoelker8448
    @mbvoelker8448 Год назад +3

    Proof that routine checks are not a mere formality.

  • @draskodrasko2519
    @draskodrasko2519 Год назад +1

    love your channel, as soon as i see new episode, h
    there i go

  • @annieseaside
    @annieseaside Год назад

    Best ATC tower people I’ve ever heard. I wonder why this clarity is not standard.

  • @NeonVisual
    @NeonVisual Год назад +9

    Seems like a safe airline to fly with, said no one ever.

    • @skyblue375
      @skyblue375 Год назад +4

      Flight 370 says enough

    • @fallenwandererMY
      @fallenwandererMY Год назад +4

      Well it is though? Out of all thousands of Malaysia Airlines flights that has been successful, you completely redeemed the airline unsafe because of this incident? People need to jog their mind sometimes that this happens to every airline out there. FYI, the FAA confirms Malaysia Airlines has gotten their Category 1 safety rating and flew to all over the world successfully.

    • @sunnyfon9065
      @sunnyfon9065 Год назад +1

      @@fallenwandererMYYeah, I’ve been seeing people saying Malaysia Airlines is unsafe when it had only few accidents/incidents compared to the numbers of accidents/incidents many other airlines had.

    • @Win2User
      @Win2User Год назад

      @@fallenwandererMY I'm just speechless on how people can make jokes out of this

  • @Thelonesomeone
    @Thelonesomeone Год назад

    You deserve your own Netflix series brah

  • @patmx5
    @patmx5 Год назад +13

    I fly small planes. One of the things I look for at the beginning of the takeoff roll is 'airspeed alive' - that is, that the airspeed indicator is coming off the peg and rising as the takeoff roll starts and the airplane accelerates. It happens almost immediately, you don't need to be two thirds of the way down the runway to notice. The one morning it didn't come up (the pitot port was frozen; the day before had been extremely humid and then temps went below freezing overnight), I did what I'd been trained to and pulled the throttle back to idle and rejected the takeoff. These guys had red warning flags telling them something was amiss - what possessed them to take off?

    • @calibre_au6183
      @calibre_au6183 Год назад

      Good comment, shouldn't the aircraft software be configured to reject the takeoff automatically ?

    • @BosworthMcG
      @BosworthMcG Год назад +1

      Poor training and complacency

    • @patheddles4004
      @patheddles4004 Год назад +2

      @@calibre_au6183 Can't do that really - any time a computer is overruling the pilot, there's huge potential for bad outcomes in unexpected circumstances.

  • @camptube7621
    @camptube7621 Год назад

    Pilots went by the book and all was well. Great flying. Aircraft back up systems are amazing.

  • @armorer94
    @armorer94 Год назад +2

    Somewhere in Malaysia there is a flight engineer looking for a job.

  • @zuzellogan5613
    @zuzellogan5613 Год назад +1

    Thank God there was not a crash and all the passengers as well as the pilots survived.

  • @polduseri909
    @polduseri909 Год назад +3

    This negligence reminds me of AeroPeru B757 crash in the 90’s

  • @ciarankelly4338
    @ciarankelly4338 Год назад

    Guy in control was excellent!

  • @tauseef7061
    @tauseef7061 Год назад +1

    WOW. Glad this didnt end up like the Air Peru flight

  • @Shermanbay
    @Shermanbay Год назад +12

    In modern aircraft, there is no sensor to detect if the pitot probe(s) are blocked or useless. I wonder what other sensors are nonexistent.

    • @chitlitlah
      @chitlitlah Год назад

      I'm just guessing here, but maybe they think having those sensors there isn't worth the extra potential point of failure. Being someone who designs automation equipment, it's good to keep things as simple as possible and only add complexity when there's a significant benefit. As far as I know, this is the only occurrence of an incident like this because there are several people who should have seen the covers and removed them. I don't know why they didn't just stop the airplane on the runway when there was a problem, but they did manage to land successfully and I don't think the odds of a crash are really that great with just the air speed indicator malfunctioning. This also just happened a few years ago, so maybe they are planning to add sensors to future aircraft now that they know it's a potential issue.

    • @forceawakens4449
      @forceawakens4449 Год назад +2

      The thing is that there is, but the crew ignored it. The red bars where the airspeed is supposed to be on the main screen is the warning, but was ignored.

    • @Shermanbay
      @Shermanbay Год назад +1

      ​@@forceawakens4449 The red bars on the display appear only AFTER the aircraft is rolling, and AFAiK there is no audible warning. The pilots have only 10 seconds to decide to abort the takeoff. A much better system would make it obvious in advance that a takeoff is dangerous.

    • @perniciouspete4986
      @perniciouspete4986 Год назад

      ​@@ShermanbayYeah, maybe they could do something like attach long red streamers to the pitot tube covers so anyone with their head NOT in the no. 2 position could see that the covers were in place.

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 Год назад +1

      @@Shermanbay The PM is supposed to be checking the airspeed during takeoff and should call for an abort if there's ANY problem with it ! Like that's the whole point of the PM.

  • @colincampbell767
    @colincampbell767 Год назад +1

    Back when I first put on sergeant's stripes one thing that I was constantly remind of was: "If you didn't check - it didn't happen."

  • @frasermitchell9183
    @frasermitchell9183 Год назад +6

    What was reassuring for me was that other indicators of air speed are available and useable, derived from GPS and ground radar.
    My father who was in the RAF in WW2 was fond of tying yellow ribbon to his car keys and other vital things.He told me that these were used on pitot tube covers, so make sure they were noticeable when an aircraft was being prepare for take-off. Clearly, being blind or badly sighted is an essential qualification in some roles in the aircraft industry of today !!

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 Год назад +1

      GPS and ground radar give you ground speed. Not airspeed

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 Год назад

      @@tomstravels520 Which is a lot better than no speed at all.

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 Год назад

      @@grahamstevenson1740 who said they had no speed? Did you see the bit about the BUSS?

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 Год назад

      @@tomstravels520 Eh ? I said only that GPS derived groundspeed was better than no speed indication at all. Where was any BUS/BUSS mentioned ?

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 Год назад

      @@grahamstevenson1740 picture at 5:11 (wrong showing what would have it speeds were flagged) and then mentioned at 9:00

  • @kamyagupta4030
    @kamyagupta4030 11 месяцев назад

    Nicely handled

  • @kritagyabadalkhurana2656
    @kritagyabadalkhurana2656 Год назад +4

    it has been a long time for the nepal plane crash happening. but you have still not made a video on it. can just please make a video on it

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 Год назад

      The investigation is still pending and I Still have not seen the results of the black boxes that were sent to France for evaluation. Externally they looked in pretty good shape. Investigations can take a year or more.

    • @grahamstevenson1740
      @grahamstevenson1740 Год назад

      FYI, the training Captain in the FO's seat feathered the props instead of lowering the flaps. This resulted in loss of thrust and the aircraft stalled.

  • @NewcastleFlyer
    @NewcastleFlyer Год назад

    Just the video I needed to see before I take this exact flight on Friday😂

  • @nielshansen4852
    @nielshansen4852 Год назад

    It amazes me that a bit of canvas can and has taken down an aircraft, yet it’s STILL 100% reliant on someone not forgetting to take them off.

  • @curbyourshi1056
    @curbyourshi1056 Год назад +1

    Well handled, apart from the lack of checks etc.

  • @Truckngirl
    @Truckngirl Год назад +2

    That male Aussie ATC was smooth as silk.

  • @psalm2forliberty577
    @psalm2forliberty577 Год назад +3

    Amazing how many people in a row neglected their duty for this near accident to occur.

  • @PJHEATERMAN
    @PJHEATERMAN Год назад +7

    Maybe extend the pitot cover flags to almost ground level. You couldn't miss them as they would be in your face.

    • @ADPeguero
      @ADPeguero Год назад +6

      Maybe fire people for not doing their jobs and putting hundreds of lives at risk. All 3 (engineer, pilot, and ground crew lead) were supposed to do proper walk-arounds before releasing, pushing back, and taking command of the aircraft.

    • @cszabo8899
      @cszabo8899 Год назад +3

      I agree! But I think they are _probably_ short as they are in order to prevent them from getting snagged in something taller than, say, the top of the nosegear arm. If they get snagged and pulled out, or worse ---- pulled at an odd angle, the force might damage the tubes. I'm guessing that's the reason. Could be wrong, though.

  • @olaflieser3812
    @olaflieser3812 Год назад

    I worked on the Ramp including pushback assistance (in the video called "dispatch coordinator" during pushback) for 10 years. Regardless of any engineers or pilots doing a walk around we always do one just before push back, looking for any doors not properly locked and also making sure pitot and static probes are unobstructed. We'd also look for any fluids on the ground and a glance at the tyres. If the push back driver performs his job "single-man", i.e. without walkout assistance, he has got to do the walk around himself - and is normally the very last person to look at a fuselage from the outside before take off. An important task! The above is mandatory at MUC airport (Germany) and I would think it is in very many places.
    Also, the pilot should notice the pitot tube cover on his own walk around and remove it. Thus, a serial error; it slipped through on three professionals one after the other. Or, put another way: This "serial error" happens rarely; and only because it did on this occasion does this flight feature prominently in a video.

  • @marckradolfer6007
    @marckradolfer6007 Год назад

    Reminded me a lot of the AeroPeru flight that went down in the Pacific Ocean in front of Lima due to some incompetent maintenance personel taping over the pito tubes. They lost altitude, speed, and everyone perished in a nightmarish 50 minutes of trying to save the plane in pitch dark conditions. So sad.

  • @las2665
    @las2665 Год назад +2

    Thank you, now I know about this incident.

  • @flybouy11
    @flybouy11 Год назад +2

    No injuries but you can bet there was a humble Captain and 1s officer.

    • @hachimaru295
      @hachimaru295 Год назад

      wonder if after the investigation maybe the humble captian is now a flight attendent