Gastite, TracPipe, WardFlex, CSST, Overview, Tips, Safety, and Certifications!
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- Опубликовано: 8 дек 2017
- In this HVACR Gas Tubing Video, I go over the Major CSST Corrugated Stainless Steel Tubing Manufactures Gastite Flashield, TracPipe CouterStrike, WardFlex and WardFlex Max. I explain the differences, similarities, and the need for certification in all brands. I go over general tips, safety concerns, and history. These flexible gas lines can be sized and ran through a building to meet the loads of all of the appliances. Supervision is needed by a licensed HVACR Tech while performing tasks as Experience and Apprenticeship garners Wisdom and Safety.
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Thank you for an extremely thorough video
Glad to help Cindy!
Your videos are the best. Thank you!!
Thanks Larry!
Great job mr. service tech, thanks a bunch.
Thanks Wayne!
I am a Gas Piper and I approve this video
Thanks Mason!
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Great video, I do not use the corrugated stainless steel tubing very much and picked up a few things. Thanks
Thanks Kenny W!
Dayumn very helpful video, thank you so much!
Thank you! Got my Gastite Flashshield cert. Even though you do not need it to buy the stuff.
Got ya thanks Solarj!
Thanks sooo much for the videos.
Thanks Tank!
Very good information!!!
Thanks Neil!
Hi Acservicetech, nice video. Got my tracpipe through Johnstone supply and my gastite I did online. If I remember correctly gastite let's you print of a three month card to get you buy until they send you the actually one in the mail. Didn't get workflex yet but working on it. Thanks again.
Ok you are trying to get the WardFlex cert?
Awesome video, can you do a video on underground gas line, thank you very much for your excellent work and training
Thank you for letting me know what you would like to see!
Very good video.
Thanks Channel Cat Chaser!
Good presentation.
Thanks Lyle!
I’ve took apart my propane line at my cabin and lost the gastite ring when it fell and bounce somewhere . No one in the town had a gastite fitting so I used the home flex fitting from homedepot to reconnect . It’s 1 ring with a notch . I put it together and no leaks at all. Should I order a gas tite fitting online or it’ll be fine as is
Home depot sells them in Idaho without certification. Thanks for the video !
I believe that is a different manufacturer that has a rubber o ring as a seal instead of these types, thanks
@@acservicetechchannel its pro flex has silicone orange o ring,must not overtighten ,or will crush the seal,self certified if you read and qualify yourself, and register
just got my cet through the online traing.
Why would the HomeDespot brass fittings be rated for Natural Gas and not LP? Is the only reason because they are not left hand threaded?
I have a slow leak on a wardflex fitting. I think the gasket is scarred. Is the leak fixable by applying tread sealant to the gasket or rings?
No, you would replace the fitting and ring assembly. Thread sealant eventually dries out. If the tubing is scarred too then cut that back to attach it to the new fitting if you are certified for the particular brand, thanks!
Helpful. Now I just need a link to a WardFlex instructional video.
where did you buy your WardFlex csst and fittings?
@@johnsimpson736 Ferguson plumbing supply.
Also, what certifications do you recommend I get and where to get them to make more money? I’m 20 and I honestly don’t “enjoy” working in this field but I have to do it for now because of my family.
OSHA10 hr construction, 3 csst certs, and most importantly EPA 608. Then after those go for the Nate certs, thanks
just get out now
Can you cut using other tools like portable band saw, etc.. or are these cutters recommended? Thanks!
Not at all, only with tubing cutters, The cut has to be extremely precise to seal right. Make sure you get certified in the brand you want to use. They are usually free trainings and cert classes at supply houses, thanks
AC Service Tech LLC thank you! I will not being the work myself, I just like to learn. Thank you for the response!
@@acservicetechchannel bull shit. 20 year plumber who had never failed a gas inspection. Residential or commercial. It's been done. Should you, no. Can it, o yeah it can. Don't misguided people dude.
in my state you must be a licensed gas fitter to touch anything gas....i remodel kitchens and baths and technically cannot even reconnect a gas nipple for a range even though have a general contractors license..
I have 3/4” line out of back of house with shut off and want to run 1/2” hose with quick connect from that about 40 feet to generator 13hp 420cc motor would I get enough NG to generator to run effectively or do I need to go larger ? I was already told to different times on RUclips 1/2” hose would work just being safe and not wasting time and money.Thanks
It all depends on the size of your generator. The BTU/HR input would need to be know otherwise no one would be able to know. However you would need to know the inside diameter of that particular tubing as the IFGC 2018 sizing charts deal with known tubing sizes such as for csst, iron, and copper, thanks
The inside diameter of 3/4” pipe is id3/4” and the 1/2” hose is I’d 1/2” the generator is 13hp 420cc engine I was told it requires 28,000 BTU and was told my 3/4” and my 1/2” at all lengths will produce 34,800 more then what Generator requires.
I told you it’s 13hp 420cc it doesn’t come like appliance with BTU’s required.
Where do I go to get certifications?
I linked the 3 cert websites in the description of the video. Gastite is online and the others you would contact the rep through the links I provided or through your local supply houses, thanks
Dish detergent eats the pipe? That’s the durable piping system you want carrying gas into your home?
Yeah it is made a lot more corrosive than it was 30 years ago. It will even quickly rust galvanized pipe. I have seen that on a job where we came back 6 months after the plumber put the gas lines in at the furnace location inside the building. The homeowner said he was there and saw the joints wiped off but they had 3/16 of rust coming off of the threads
I bought a big spool of the yellow gastite pipe like you have.
I got it cheap and it has taken my shop space to store it and I need the space. All that said I no very little about gas lines and dug a water line from the house out to the shop. IDK it is stainless so I threw some of it in the ditch leaving the tails coiled up outside both buildings and without asking questions from anyone. Have I just wasted the gas line by burying it?
Everyone seems to use plastic on underground. It looked like it was overkill using stainless line. I had it seems like I bought the spool for scrap ( I had to cut about 40'feet off where it had been kinked and the rest of the large spool was good. I think it was 250' of it to start. Tell me I haven't just wasted the whole 25 bucks I gave for the whole spool lol. I threw 2 home runs of cat 5 cable for ethernet in the ditch as well. bought a 1000' spool of it for 5 bucks at the scrappers too. I hoarded it not knowing when or if I might have use of it, a roll of this a spool of that.
IDK at this point.
Well I don't know about the gas line but the Cat 5E has to be waterproof and insulated for direct burial. So if it is not black, shiny and filled with grease then the cable won't last too long.
As for the gas line, yes I notice a lot of Poly pipe being used underground around here. Not sure about what is allowed with other types. Other videos have said that the yellow Stainless stuff was for indoors, mechanically protected by being installed within walls and ceiling/floor joists.
Good luck with that.
@@gragor11
Lots of people use the poly around here too. I never got any comm. Hooked up in house or shop. I suppose that gas line being gastight for pressure wont leak so I can use string and a bit of sponge and vacuum a string through it and pull some of the cat 5 through it if I decide not to run gas out there. Thanks for the reply. Regards
@@decoy2636 Yes. You won't be the last person to pull something else through an existing pipe. Just beware that as water eventually winds up in PVC pipe there may be a way for water to wind up in the CSST pipe if the yellow coating does break down in the water and acids or alkalines of your soil type. So you should pull direct burial cat 5e wire through that pipe after whatever it is you installed fails. That could be decades, one never knows.
what galvanized gas pipe?
Schedule 40 can either be black iron or galvanized. These are the most widely used gas lines found in buildings.
Acservicetech, friend I have a question for you brother. I'm in Hvac school. Getting my diploma within months. I want to also repair major appliances, such as driers and washers and vacuum cleaners. Etc. I am planning on going to online school to learn. Such as ashworth or Penn foster for appliance repair. I want some proffessional advice from you. Is it worth it or waste of time and money? With my electric and mechanical knowledge of Hvac /r will I already be able to fix all appliances?
Also please suggest a good school were I can learn. Or book. If anything helped you increase your knowledge please forward to me.
I am in the process of writing a book. My knowledge has been built from the fact that I needed to learn the in depth things going on in order to teach them to my high school and adult students. I don't recommend anyone going into any debt. I would say get into the field and usually HVACR would make more than in appliances. I know at least for replacements and installs, the hourly rate and how long it takes are both more and longer but it would depend on where you are located at in the country and what company you are working for. Thanks
I’ve been looking for this damn video for an hour. You need to change some of the key words that people can find it easier
respectful correction: Schedule 40 gas pipe is not galvanized, it's black iron. Galvo is used for water
I live near the ocean and galvanized is all the plumbing supply hoses sell for gas lines or water. None even stock black iron. I am a licensed Career Ed teacher of HVACR and have read the whole IFGC and there is no issue using galvanized or black iron for gas lines. Thanks downtourth!
@@acservicetechchannel back in the days when gas was manufactured from coal gasification, galvanized piping was not acceptable. But with Natural Gas and galvanized processing a lot better than it used to be NFPA54 I believe has been accepting it for quite some time now. In no way should schedule 40 black Iron or galvanized pipe be used Underground ( above ground installations only). There are still a lot of municipalities that prohibit the use of galvanized pipe throughout the country.
I live on the NC coast, I use copper and Schedule 40 galvanized pipe all the time. It’s legal in NC.
@@mcroley591 Seeing as how you mentioned copper I thought I'd quire you about the nature of copper tubing for sale these days. I've been watching a lot of CSST videos recently as a possible way to supply LP gas to behind my new LP range as an alternative to gas line rated soft copper tubing which is not readily available.
I'm seeing a lot of regulating going on (I'm an electrician/electrical contractor). Back in the day I used off the shelf rolled 'copper' tubing and a flanger to hook up gas appliances in a cabin I am associated with. It's been doing just fine for at least 30 years.
Now, in the age of 'risk management', any copper tubing I see for sale in hardware stores is all designated as 'refrigeration' tubing. Haven't come across any available tubing designated for gas use. I always have to wonder how much of this is real and how much is just feather bedding by regulatory/manufacturing industry. Is the differences between 'refrigeration' tubing and 'gas' tubing of any consequence? I will switch to black iron or CSST if I have to but I have to wonder. I do love to work with copper.
anyone ever seen lightning blow holes in black iron pipe?
Exactly, the only problem is that even for those of us who only use black iron or galvanized, we will still see and run into csst piping that we may need to work with that is existing. Thanks a lot Throttle Bottle!
wish you showed pro flex also, its connections are hand tight plus quarter to half ...no more,
Hey Mark, I would only really like to see techs use the tubing 3 main manufacturers shown in the video. The tubing you are referring to actually has rubber o-rings in the fittings and I believe is sold at box stores like lowes. I have taken some of that stuff out and the orings just fell apart and were pretty falling apart. The piping wasn't even that old, thanks
@@acservicetechchannel ,no issue with it if installed corectly,hand tight plus quarter to half turn,...any more crushes the orange silicone o ring, yes lowes and or home depot,
Is the tracpipe direct burial?
No I think it has to be in a pvc pipe with both ends closed off above the ground but definitely check with your local Tracpipe Rep for their up to date info, thanks
TracPipe has a PS-II that is made for direct burial.
Gas pipes
I like black iron. It's so much easier and better looking. I e used miles of these flex lines. I'm not a fan unless it's a must.