High Speed Trains in the Netherlands
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- Опубликовано: 23 июл 2024
- A look at the types of high-speed train operating in the Netherlands.
List of shots:
0:00 Eurostar entering HSL Zuid north of Rotterdam
0:15 Eurostar departing Rotterdam Central Station
0:49 Eurostar passing Lage Zwaluwe at 209 km/h
1:09 Eurostar passing Lage Zwaluwe at 287 km/h
1:31 Thalys departing Rotterdam Central Station
2:15 Thalys passing Noorderkempen (Belgium) at 300 km/h
2:26 Thalys passing Lage Zwaluwe at 292 km/h
2:36 Thalys passing Lage Zwaluwe at 300 km/h with horn
2:52 Thalys passing Noorderkempen (Belgium) at 262 km/h
3:08 ICE departing Utrecht Central Station
3:43 ICE passing Maarssen at 120 km/h.
Two of the shots are actually filmed in Belgium, but the same high speed line does continue across the border into the Netherlands.
Music is a thing I made. 
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Vmax van ICE3 = 330 km/h
Oeps, je hebt gelijk. Mijn fout.
@@OntarioTrafficMan Het is gewoon 320kmh, hij rijdt nergens harder dan 320. Anders zou je ook over de Thalys hoger kunnen zeggen...
@@TrainzEchelleN Met "Vmax" bedoelde ik de maximumsnelheid van de trein zelf. Volgens Alstom kunnen de Thalys PBA en PBKA 320 km/h rijden, en volgens Siemens kan de ICE3 330 km/h.
@@OntarioTrafficMan 320 maar? Een TGV kan 574 rijden, althans in speciale samenstelling.
@@pingpongpung De Thalys treinen hebben geen certificatie om boven 320 te rijden in reguliere dienst.
Thank you for telling me where you took the video!
The Eurostar trains are so nice. I really hope Canada gets these some day.
We can dream! There is certainly a strong case for high-speed trains in the Toronto-Montréal corridor, and numerous studies have recommended it.
Unfortunately these trains was made to go in different European countries with different electrical rules, and I think Canada dont nedd that 😅
@@Imu-Sama. don't you know trains can be modified and the siemens Velaro D will be used in Brightline west LA-los Angeles
The real nice Eurostar trains are the TGV TMW Class 373. Class 374 is heresy.
@@Imu-Sama. the Siemens Velaro is also used outside of EU tho, like in China and Russia
great video. I enjoyed it alot :)
I want trains like this in Canada :( why is north america so backwards
Great high-speed trains video
Regards from Madrid , reaperexpress
Brillaint video!
Love the genesis style intro music
How come the vmax for NL? Just happens to be that that's the max that the lines they currently run on can do, or an actual speed limit on the trains themselves?
I probably should have been clearer. It's the fastest speed they actually achieve in Nederland, so the highest speed limit along their particular route within the country.
Ah right, that makes sense. Was thinking that'd probably it, but wasn't 100% sure ^^ Thanks!
The ICE can only run so relatively slow because it runs on standard tracks, whereas Thalys and the Eurostar run on High Speed Line track.
Nu ik deze video heb gezien ga ik morgen (vrijdag 3 oktober 2021) met een vriend ook naar station Lage Zwaluwe om de treinen voorbij te zien racen...😎
Cool! Lage Zwaluwe is een prima plek om een goede variëteit (en snelheid!) van treinen te zien. En je vindt er vaak andere mensen die treinen aan het filmen zijn!
@@OntarioTrafficMan Nice, maar kan je ook weten wanneer er hogesnelheidstreinen zoals de Thalys en de Eurostar voorbij rijden?
@@trixyvesper4814 ja check de dienstregeling van Eurostar en Thalys tussen Rotterdam en station Brussel Zuid/Midi. Lage Zwaluwe is vgm 10-15 minuten ten zuiden van Rotterdam
Ah laage Zwaluwe, the station in the middle of nowhere. And I don't understand why the Intercity direct stops at Noorderkampen...
Yes, Lage Zwaluwe is hilarious. It's in the middle of nowhere but a great place to film trains given the variety of train types. When I was there there were more people filming trains than people actually waiting for a train.
The IC Brussel stops in Noorderkempen because the station exists and the IC is the only non-high-speed service. Before the ICB was rerouted onto the HSL, NMBS ran a shuttle service from Antwerpen Centraal to Noorderkempen which was of course a huge waste of money. Stopping the IC is much cheaper.
The real question is whether the station should have been built in the first place.
@@OntarioTrafficMan Noorderkempen is Belgian politics. Citizens (and thus, Flemish politicians) asked “finally a train runs through our area, we want a station there or we don’t sign the deal for this railroad. And so it was built...
Beste , leuke video . Hoe weet je de snelheid zo nauwkeurig? Gr
Bedankt! Van de video meet ik precies wanneer de voorkant en achterkant van de trein en gegeven punt passeren (bv een paal of iets). De snelheid is de lengte van de trein (volgens Wikipedia) verdeeld door het tijdverschil tussen de voorkant en achterkant van de trein. Met treinen van 100+ meter en een video met 30 beelden per seconde kan het best nauwkeurig zijn.
Why does it look like the Eurostar is driving on the left track?
South of Rotterdam, the high speed line switches to left-side running because in Belgium trains drive on the left. There is a grade separation in Barendrecht which swaps the tracks over each other.
Hoi, Hoe meet jij de snelheid van die voorbij rijdende treinen?
Van de video meet ik precies wanneer de voorkant en achterkant van de trein en gegeven punt passeren (bv een paal of iets). De snelheid is de lengte van de trein (volgens Wikipedia) verdeeld door het tijdverschil tussen de voorkant en achterkant van de trein.
What, no Fyra?
No, they've thankfully been banished to Italy.
I thought of trying to catch an ICNG doing its testing, but I don't think high-speed testing has started yet, and even when it does it will be at night which would be difficult to capture with my phone's camera.
Door welk station rolde de Thalys met 262 km/h?
Noorderkempen (België). Alle stations staan in de beschrijving.
Anyone seeing that the ice 3 has a 1 hour delay? Typical DB and NS
The ICE has far more delays than any normal NS line.
Awesome but very loud
Yet less loud than an aircraft... And it’s passed in four seconds!
@@pjotrtje0NL Cool
i areas where people live there are sound barriers and you hardly hear them when they fly by . Once i was waiting a bus near the train station in Brussels near the airport when i hardly heard the Thalys fly by at full speed. And i was on the other side of the wall :)
The ice 3 is a normal not a Velaro
The ICE 3 is an siemens velaro
The high speed rail service is SO bad in Netherlands! Especially if you look price-value/time...A Thalys should be able to do Amsterdam-Brussels in 60/70 min. But since the Belgians don't bother to build High speed track between Brussels and the Dutch border it takes 1:35h. And you pay €80 , for which half the distance you go at
Amsterdam - Brussels is 214 km, and the Thalys does it in 1:53, which is an average speed of 114 km/h. That is indeed slower than many other high speed services, but still faster than any NS intercity train, despite the slow travel through Amsterdam. If you look only between Schiphol Airport and Brussels, the Thalys averages 126 km/h, which is way faster than any NS train service. And between Schiphol and Paris the train averages 166 km/h which is considerably above the maximum speed of IC trains.
Of the 214 km from Amsterdam to Brussels, 130 km is on 300 km/h high speed lines, including 36 km on the Belgian side of the border. And while it's true that the trains travel
@@OntarioTrafficMan I guess I stepped on your toes.... I am not talking about the french corridor, but about the dutch/belgian section. With such poor travel times you just cannot charge 2x (IC Brussels) and 3x (Thalys) the normal fare rate! By the way the Thalys only stops in Antwerp (IC Brussels stops everywhere ). The av. speed (without stops ) of Thalys between Antwerp and Brussels is 93kmh! ( 59km in 38min). Even IC Amersfoort-Zwolle is faster!
@@allws9683 I really don't care about speed, I tend to use a train because it is convenient, brings me right into the city centre. I never understood why people fly into an airport reasonably far away from Paris. But hey, you might be one who travels on a whim, not me, I travel because I have to reach a destination. Whining about 10 miles faster doesn't save on overall time.
@@allws9683 I have no problem with your argument, in fact I agree with some of your points. I have a problem with the statements you made which are not true.
Overall they need to build more highspeed tracks since the thalys only stops in Antwerp. Its crazy that the train is being slowed down so much. It should be doing 300 from the moment it leaves Amsterdam until Antwerp and the after Antwerp full speed to Paris. I hope they do it soon both Belgians and Dutch
It's would be DB without having over an hour of delays...
To be fair, it's not just DB. It's all train operators in Germany. There are also tons of delays on trains operated by Abellio(NS), Keolis, RRX(National Express), etc. I think it's a problem more with the infrastructure and dispatching than the train operators themselves.
Tbh in like the e300 better
Class 373
*TGV TMST
With the "zoom zoom zoom zoom" sound when they travel at speed.
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