Bought one of these and a Qanba Pearl at the exact same time, was getting a little tired of the old mad catz and razer sticks, missing dashes and what not. This became my favorite stick immediately, legit have used the qanba like 3 times or something. The stick is snappy, the buttons are not as high, which makes things like plinking and double tapping and negative edging feel so much better as there’s that much less time and space for your fingers to press down. Feels good, looks cool. Love this stick. Have got more sticks on the way but this is gonna hold the crown for a while
I’ve been using this stick for years I love it. No nasty fingerprints because of the aluminum, and the hayabusa buttons were made for old people so they register easier with less pressure. Only swapped out the stick for a Sanwa because it has issues of resetting back to neutral after flicking it and getting an opposite direction input instead.
I started with the Noir layout so for me personally I enjoy it more I got this stick because of the layout and after trying a friend's, enjoyed it a lot I replaced the buttons for sanwa because that's what I'm used to
That's what I was thinking too! I feel like my hands wouldn't be as squished together because the noir requires your elbows pushed out more than in. My arms feel too tense when in that position, these problems are have been mitigated after I upgrade from my f300 to a Panthera but I think a noir is more my style.
Its honestly so weird to hear him say viewlix layout is more comfortable to him. Noir layout is far superior in my opinion, though its honestly not as big a deal as some may think
I've owned a variety of sticks and the Fighting Edge is by far the best I've had. Sturdy on the lap, buttons are great and responsive and I was easily able to install my Korean Lever so definitely recommend it!
Hori Hayabusa parts seem to get a bad rap because people mistakenly think they’re just low quality stock garbage, but the truth is that they’re fully arcade quality and can be found in arcades all over japan.
Hi. I have this stick and really like it. Love your review of this and you have illustrated a few things I have never noticed before. Keep up your excellent work.
One day, you'll build a custom stick with a sega 2p layout, and you'll love it. It has the slight curvature similar to a noir, but it lines up perfectly with the elbows flared outwards, and the thumb rests perfectly on the bottom 1st kick button thats under the punch button. Everyone loves noir, but i prefer viewlix because my elboes flare out. But sega 2p is the best of both worlds
I got an Etsy case with Sega 2P. I love the layout. I would say it's underrated because no major manufacturer uses it but I can't say it because many people who buy custom chooses Sega 2P.
@@nerdyneedsalife8315 it's a shame no commercial manufacturers use it. Its a missed opportunity on their part. I always get a Sega 2p layout case whenever they're available as an option. It's apparently not as popular as you'd think. Quite a few of the non-commercial case producers have either phased it out as a standard option, or never offered it to begin with (junk food arcade, marvelous customs come to mind)
@@CGoody5642 I get why they don't. They would need to make new panels which means a new case manufacturing process which means they would have to eat their own cost while charging the customer more while having to make room for inventory. Why do that when Vewlix is king? I am still disappointed because newcomers would rather buy a prebuilt stick than support smaller businesses that offer cases that suit the Sega 2P layout.
@@nerdyneedsalife8315 viewlix is king? Noir is far more popular. Im in the minority of people who prefer viewlix. Regardless, you're overstating the difficulty in changing the layout. It is a minor adjustment regarding location; the tooling remains the exact same. Altering it for a large batch would not cost any more for the customer, would not eat in to their profits much if at all, and they aren't hurting for inventory space in their large warehouses. It's possible they make more money due to increasing the market share by offering a product that caters to people's preferences whom they currently aren't reaching by only offering the viewlix/noir layouts. As I said, even many smaller producers are phasing out the S2P layout, or never offered it to begin with. As for "newcomers" wanting commercial sticks over custom ones, it isn't just newcomers. Even as one who owns a multitude of custom cases from smaller producers and continue to acquire them, I like a few particular things that most commercial sticks do a lot more, which is why I still buy them. For instance, I much prefer tbe utility buttons where they are assorted in their own area generally using smaller buttons and possibly toggle switches while being clearly labelled rather than the usual 4-6 24mm utility buttons on the back or side of the case. I also usually prefer the clean look/design of the chassis in general on commercial sticks over a lot of of the ones made by the smaller producers, although obviously there are a few exceptions to that.
@@CGoody5642 Noir might be popular but most sticks have Vewlix from Qanba to Hori to Victrix. Hori is the only major one I can recall that has a Noir layout available.
I love the aluminum battop on my RAP4 Kai for the same reason. Would be nice to get an aluminum deck plate replacement for it. I think AS makes one (might be only for hit box conversion, I forget)
Hayabusa buttons do have less travel and lower actuation force... but I love it. I also love the noir layout, but also only felt it was a minor adjustment personally. I actually feel like vewlix is a lot more cramped because the buttons are considerably closer to the stick.
Love that Hori is distinct with their layouts, it's one of the reason why all my other sticks that I own are boxed (besides being specific game editions) and most of the sticks I use are Hori because they either use the the Sega Astro City 1P Arched Layout (Vewlix is technically Astro City 2P layout) or is the Noir layout (doesn't feel cramped and I'm asian too).
I used a lot of sticks including Rap 4 silent, Fighting Edge, Razer Panthera, Qanba Obsidian.... But Fighting edge is one of the best stick I ever had all time fvrt 🔥🔥🔥
The Hyabusa lever should be 'smoother' or 'faster' cuz it uses a V-shaped cup for the pivot, meaning less contact area and therefore less friction.. at least that's the main difference I see between it and the traditional Sanwa JLF. Pretty sure they even highlight that as a key feature on the box.
Pro tip: You can use the right hand or middle buttons (4 or 6) for your main inputs and put the combination buttons on the other side. You can even open the stick up and rewire it so that you don't have to change things when you switch from veiwlix to noir in game.
Noir layout is ergonomic, better for those use pinky finger to press L1, L2 buttons. Two downsides of Fight Edge: (1) 6 screws on the top will rust if you have sweaty hands, sweet almond oil will help. (2) Silver colour on 8 button bases will peel off eventually.
Noir layout is only ergonomically sensible with the elbow tucked, which isnt sensible at all. This is why Sega 2p was made popular in so many custom sticks; it's the curvature of noir, but lines up perfectly with the elbows flared. Shame more commercial stick makers dont use it
I got this stick with Sanwa parts. But now I bought 8 hayabusa buttons for replacements. I’ll be using plugs anyway to block off the circle, R2, L1, and L2 buttons anyway lmao! But I wanted to give them a try. I just originally used Sanwa and I always wanted as close to arcades as I could but a lot of players use the hayabusa buttons and they sound nice too. Thought I’d give them a try.
Hey dude do you have the hayabusas yet? If so gimme an update! Been rocking them for a year and I love it to death, awesome stick, easy to press I have light and rapid dashes now, and the buttons feel so nice! Just ordered sanwas tho and a sanwa lever so I can try them out and I’ve always wanted to customize, how are sanwas? Only used them at my friends once and if nostalgia isn’t hitting me they were AMAZING! But nothing beats my hayabusas
@@bigdough1326 oh yeah! I’m rocking hayabusa s now. And I have the button plugs too. Haven’t tried with just 4 buttons with Sanwa, but i at least to back to my old stick and I definitely prefer my hayabusa still
I have the Daija, and I'm honestly curious to have his opinion on it as well. It's the only fight stick I have so I can't compare it to anything else, so i'm curious to know where it stands. I personally really love it.
I currently play with 3 HRAP and this Hori Edge (different setups, Seimitsu, Sanwa...). I had the same doubt with the Noir layout, but actually, I am in love with the Edge and I think that this Noir layout is only an issue if you play with the Edge on your knees. For a few month, as I was cramped due to a not super good seat, I started to play with my sticks on my desk. In this position, the stick is a bit more distant than on knees, of course, and my arms are then naturally more straight. The noir layout is making NO issue then. In addition, the Edge on desk is making it fantastic, very close of cabinet feeling!
I really like the way you do these review videos, comparing them with other ones you have and stuff, I'm a begginer at fighting games and I'm currently playing on a DS4 but I plan to get one arcade stick in the future. Here in Brazil we have a company called 2ND Impact who produces custom sticks, I think with 3D printers, they look cool, despite beeing a cheaper alternative for us here than exporting one they look like very quality products, I don't know if its easy for you to buy something from here, but maybe try one if you have the chance one day.
I love the Noir layout I prefer it to Viewlix. I have the Soul Calibur VI Hori Real Arcade Pro. I love it. My favorite Viewlix stick is Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Razer Pantera Evo. This stick looks nice it's tempting.
The reason i went with the pearl over the obsidian was partially the noir layout, since i tend to put crown 202's in everything, and i didn't want to need to chop a portion of 3 rings off to fit them by the board.... But i prefer viewlix over noir, and sega 2p over viewlix With that said, i am looking in to a new "premium" stick with a viewlix layout, and the debate is between the massive qanba dragon, and the sleek victrix pro. I do prefer hori stock buttons and lever over sanwa. I usually swap them out anyway, but i kept a hori rap v stock, and am looking for a rap 4 as well so i can keep one stock and swap the other with the optical lever
Yeah it's a solid stick. I modded mine with an aluminum ball top and a 1.5lb spring. I recommend looking for replacement buttons as the caps can sometimes break. The hori buttons can be found online but are limited quantity.
I wish I grew up with these, they look so fun to play with. Like now we've got a pro controller for switch and it's not bad, but directional inputs have to be so precise.
It's worth pointing out that the noir layout spaces the buttons out more, it's not just angle, it's the space between the buttons that's different as well.
Nice video, I'm tempted to get one but stock over in the UK has all dried up. You can buy replacement HORI buttons and levers from ArcadeShock but I assume many other stick parts resellers will stock them as HORI do sell them separately.
I wonder if the noir layout was designed so that the entire unit would be offset towards the right. See how much space there is to the left of the stick? I wonder if the designers were giving the option to come at the stick at an angle while pressing the buttons straight on 🤔
Have you ever gotten your hands on the obsidian pearl version - I’m not sure but I think the stick placement is further away from the buttons then on the original obsidian. Was looking into a new arcade stick . I think I would like the pearl from what I see so far .
A little copy/paste of something I wrote a while ago: I have a fighting edge. I've heard some people say that stick is loose compared to a sanwa, but I haven't found that to be true. Over all I'd say the hori is every so slightly snappier and the sanwa feels slightly smoother, it's not as clicky as the hori. I really like the hori buttons though, at first they might feel a little hollow, but after getting used to them I think they're more responsive than the sanwa buttons. The fighting edge feels really nice in the lap, though I prefer heavy sticks, I suspect some people might not like to have it sitting in their lap for an extended period of time. I will say depending on the angle you're using the stick at the edge at the bottom of the faceplate can be uncomfortable on the forearm (Update: I actually stopped using this stick because over time that sharp bevel started causing me pain due to the angle it sits at on my lap). One weird thing, the playstation button whatever they used to put on the logo was water soluble, my finger got a little damp and it just wiped right off, you'd never even know it was there.
Yeah I think the idea behind the Hayabusa lever is that it reduces input load when pushing in directions so it has this reputation for being loose but I don’t feel that so much. Just felt like it had longer throw distance as a result. Might well be the same distance as sanwa but that’s how it feels to me anyway.
@@NihongoGamer I've heard the version of the fighting edge released is the US has a weaker spring than the one released in Japan. I have the Japanese fighting edge, so that might explain some of the difference.
You should try a stick with a sega 2p layout. It's my personal favorite. I've also had the exact opposite experience between viewlix layout and noir. I feel like I have to keep my arm completely straight and elbows tucked in to my sides to play on viewlix layouts, whereas with the noir, I can be relaxed and let my hand rest naturally and angle some. May be individual body mechanics at work though.
7:00 it is a mystery to me why the joystick and buttons are so close on a Vewlix layout. Noir is better but like you said still kind of close. One reason could be that because they had to fit P1 and P2 joysticks and buttons on many arcade cabinets and for some reason also decided to make that standard for P1 layout cabinets too. It is even more of an issue to people that are over 190cm tall like me because i have wider shoulders than average Japanese shoulders. I'm ok with the Noir distance and when i made a custom panel for my fightstick i used the Rap V Kai as reference because that has a Vewlix layout with the stick being as far as on a Noir layout. And i don't want to push them apart even if i make a custom panel because i like to keep the layouts as authentic as possible. Historically (before Vewlix and Namco Noir layouts) in the 90's most P1 player layouts were 6 button Noir style and most P2 spots had a 6 button Vewlix style so the P2 could play from an angle. Neither one of them were exactly like Vewlix / Noir layout but the idea was the same.
I think you meant the Ibanez Jem series. Steve Vai's signature guitar range (though he has new signature models that aren't Jem models called Pia). The RG is based on the Jem design, but it doesn't have the monkey grip handle, lion claw tremolo routing or tree of life inlays.
I changed the stick and buttons but I love the layout. It is actually more in line with the natural shape of hand profile . I changed the stick because it felt like it was knocking against the case but the sAnwa does the same so must be the case but I like the stick . Sanwa parts did improve it for me though
It only is more in line with the natural shape of the gand if you tuck your elbows in, which isn't natural. Thats specifically why i prefer viewlix, but I'm in the minority there. However, once you try sega 2p, it blows your mind; slight curvature like noir, but it lines up perfectly with the elbows flared out. It's the best of both worlds. I hate that more companies dont offer it in commercial sticks
After using Noir for a while, when I went back to Vewlix, I felt that the right most buttons felt way too far. Noir makes the button more compact to hit without reaching further out so much
I have a RAP V, it has little symbols stamped into the right edge of the upper face above each side button, so you can tell what you're pushing without leaning around. They're a bit hard to see though, I don't know if they'd show up in a dimly lit room like in this video. Not sure if the other Horis have this as well.
Will you ever make videos unrelated to Fighting Games again e.g. JRPGs, gadget reviews, maybe checking out different places in Tokyo once restrictions are lifted?
My friends and I actually prefer any layout in the market other than vewlix. I have long fingers, my first stick use Vewlix layout and I got cramp after playing for long time. Now I use HORI Fighting Stick, it's their version of Qanba Drone (they really need giving it a different name) which use Noir layout and I can play with it for a longer time.
This video is old but I have to say I was watching it now and when you start to talk about the carry handle, for some reason I thought about the Steve Vai guitar. Then you: "it's not like a Steve Vai RG...." lol
Nice review... I have been considering this stick for many months, but not just for fighting games it is for MiSTer FPGA arcade, NES, Mega Drive, Super NES, Neo-Geo, etc. I do not like the button layout from what you are saying I think it would hurt my wrists. I have bad wrists from shattering them 20 years ago. I might need the viewlix layout. What attracted me to this Fighting Edge stick is the look of it.
Do you think this is the best performance/price arcade stick on the market? In a LAG comparison, the Qanba drone came out very well in terms of performance! Is it worth the extra price that Qanba Obsidian has? greetings thank you 🙂
I was thinking of getting the crossup from hitbox because of compatibility with all systems and because I really like the plexi glass and buttons on the hitbox. Any thoughts?
2:50 The biggest difference of the Noir layout compared to Vewlix layout is that the 1,2,3,4 buttons (example of Tekken button numbers) are close to on top of each other. If you look at a Tekken movelist the icons are close to this layout. And more accurately it is the Namco Noir layout from the Namco Noir arcade cabinet. It's basically the same layout as the classic Sega Astro City 1P and Taito Egret layouts.
Thanks for the great review! If you were buying an arcade stick, would you choose the Razer Panthera EVO (latest version) or the Hori Fighting EDGE for home usage?
For home use the Hori FE’s weight and size is good because it doesn’t slip around too much. For traveling the Panthers Evo fits much better in a bag though.
Nihongo,is Past Gen Fighting Edge (one with touchpad) for 50$ a good deal? Because i have one listing in mind,but seller doesnt ship outside of his town(
One question about the layout tho: Is there anyone placing their stick on their desk as opposed to their lap? Maybe the layout shines more if you had the stick on a table where you can align it in such a way that your right arm is straight and you angle your left forearm/hand to reach the stick? Any table top gamers in chat or is that generally not something people would do?
my man have more arcade sticks than fighting games
Bought one of these and a Qanba Pearl at the exact same time, was getting a little tired of the old mad catz and razer sticks, missing dashes and what not. This became my favorite stick immediately, legit have used the qanba like 3 times or something. The stick is snappy, the buttons are not as high, which makes things like plinking and double tapping and negative edging feel so much better as there’s that much less time and space for your fingers to press down. Feels good, looks cool. Love this stick. Have got more sticks on the way but this is gonna hold the crown for a while
A lot of the Tekken players in my local scene play on these PS4 Fighting Edge sticks, they've always seemed pretty nice. Glad to see you covering one.
You can blame aris for that lol. He gave this stick a glowing review a couple years back. The stick def deserves the popularity though, its quality
@@jaykelley103 That can be attributed to it but this type of arcade style buttons plus layout have a long history with the Tekken arcade cabinets.
Tried different sticks when I was looking for an arcade stick. Took a chance and bought the fighting edge when it came out. I fell in love with it
I’ve been using this stick for years I love it. No nasty fingerprints because of the aluminum, and the hayabusa buttons were made for old people so they register easier with less pressure. Only swapped out the stick for a Sanwa because it has issues of resetting back to neutral after flicking it and getting an opposite direction input instead.
“Made for old people” lol
I started with the Noir layout so for me personally I enjoy it more
I got this stick because of the layout and after trying a friend's, enjoyed it a lot
I replaced the buttons for sanwa because that's what I'm used to
I want to try a Noir layout, it makes more sense to have the buttons follow the curvature of the finger's reach.
@@Foodie-MS-08th yeah thats the best part about it, also its not that close to the stick itstelf.
That's what I was thinking too! I feel like my hands wouldn't be as squished together because the noir requires your elbows pushed out more than in. My arms feel too tense when in that position, these problems are have been mitigated after I upgrade from my f300 to a Panthera but I think a noir is more my style.
Its honestly so weird to hear him say viewlix layout is more comfortable to him. Noir layout is far superior in my opinion, though its honestly not as big a deal as some may think
I've owned a variety of sticks and the Fighting Edge is by far the best I've had. Sturdy on the lap, buttons are great and responsive and I was easily able to install my Korean Lever so definitely recommend it!
What Korean lever did you install? Was it a good clean install? Things flush and seamless?
when your hands know the noir layout cant never go back to vewlix
Love the noir layout. Not crazy about viewlix.
@@chucklos391 agree
More ergonomic
"Noir" means "black" in french. So technically, you're saying... "Once you go black, you never go back" :)
@@TheMasterOfCeremonyAs a frenchman, PAUSE
Around this time last year I was also doing an arcade-stick-buying speedrun lol
The fighting edge is my first stick! I’m having to convert from pad so it’s little odd right now but I’m really loving it
any updates?
Keep at it!
Hori Hayabusa parts seem to get a bad rap because people mistakenly think they’re just low quality stock garbage, but the truth is that they’re fully arcade quality and can be found in arcades all over japan.
Hi. I have this stick and really like it. Love your review of this and you have illustrated a few things I have never noticed before. Keep up your excellent work.
I love that you made the Steve Vai Ibanez reference when talking about gaudy handles lol!!
One day, you'll build a custom stick with a sega 2p layout, and you'll love it. It has the slight curvature similar to a noir, but it lines up perfectly with the elbows flared outwards, and the thumb rests perfectly on the bottom 1st kick button thats under the punch button.
Everyone loves noir, but i prefer viewlix because my elboes flare out. But sega 2p is the best of both worlds
I got an Etsy case with Sega 2P. I love the layout. I would say it's underrated because no major manufacturer uses it but I can't say it because many people who buy custom chooses Sega 2P.
@@nerdyneedsalife8315 it's a shame no commercial manufacturers use it. Its a missed opportunity on their part. I always get a Sega 2p layout case whenever they're available as an option.
It's apparently not as popular as you'd think. Quite a few of the non-commercial case producers have either phased it out as a standard option, or never offered it to begin with (junk food arcade, marvelous customs come to mind)
@@CGoody5642 I get why they don't. They would need to make new panels which means a new case manufacturing process which means they would have to eat their own cost while charging the customer more while having to make room for inventory. Why do that when Vewlix is king? I am still disappointed because newcomers would rather buy a prebuilt stick than support smaller businesses that offer cases that suit the Sega 2P layout.
@@nerdyneedsalife8315 viewlix is king? Noir is far more popular. Im in the minority of people who prefer viewlix.
Regardless, you're overstating the difficulty in changing the layout. It is a minor adjustment regarding location; the tooling remains the exact same. Altering it for a large batch would not cost any more for the customer, would not eat in to their profits much if at all, and they aren't hurting for inventory space in their large warehouses. It's possible they make more money due to increasing the market share by offering a product that caters to people's preferences whom they currently aren't reaching by only offering the viewlix/noir layouts.
As I said, even many smaller producers are phasing out the S2P layout, or never offered it to begin with. As for "newcomers" wanting commercial sticks over custom ones, it isn't just newcomers. Even as one who owns a multitude of custom cases from smaller producers and continue to acquire them, I like a few particular things that most commercial sticks do a lot more, which is why I still buy them. For instance, I much prefer tbe utility buttons where they are assorted in their own area generally using smaller buttons and possibly toggle switches while being clearly labelled rather than the usual 4-6 24mm utility buttons on the back or side of the case. I also usually prefer the clean look/design of the chassis in general on commercial sticks over a lot of of the ones made by the smaller producers, although obviously there are a few exceptions to that.
@@CGoody5642 Noir might be popular but most sticks have Vewlix from Qanba to Hori to Victrix. Hori is the only major one I can recall that has a Noir layout available.
I like the cold feeling when i touch the aluminum
I love the aluminum battop on my RAP4 Kai for the same reason. Would be nice to get an aluminum deck plate replacement for it. I think AS makes one (might be only for hit box conversion, I forget)
That's what she said 🤣
By far my favorite stick, I converted a couple to hitboxes
Hayabusa buttons do have less travel and lower actuation force... but I love it. I also love the noir layout, but also only felt it was a minor adjustment personally. I actually feel like vewlix is a lot more cramped because the buttons are considerably closer to the stick.
I always love your arcade stick reviews. I hope you review the Qanba Dragon in the future
Love that Hori is distinct with their layouts, it's one of the reason why all my other sticks that I own are boxed (besides being specific game editions) and most of the sticks I use are Hori because they either use the the Sega Astro City 1P Arched Layout (Vewlix is technically Astro City 2P layout) or is the Noir layout (doesn't feel cramped and I'm asian too).
I had the fighting edge when it first came out. I sold it. I regret that day forever!
I can never sell my fighting edge lol
Noir player here! My second stick is HORI RAP N.
I used a lot of sticks including Rap 4 silent, Fighting Edge, Razer Panthera, Qanba Obsidian.... But Fighting edge is one of the best stick I ever had all time fvrt 🔥🔥🔥
this is gonna be my first stick, I CANT WAIT for it to arrive
Same here this is also my first stick
Same here
The Hyabusa lever should be 'smoother' or 'faster' cuz it uses a V-shaped cup for the pivot, meaning less contact area and therefore less friction.. at least that's the main difference I see between it and the traditional Sanwa JLF. Pretty sure they even highlight that as a key feature on the box.
Pro tip: You can use the right hand or middle buttons (4 or 6) for your main inputs and put the combination buttons on the other side. You can even open the stick up and rewire it so that you don't have to change things when you switch from veiwlix to noir in game.
Do you recommend this fight stick? It will be my 1st stick. Was also thinking about hitbox. Yes to different types but it’s 1 or the other.
@@basicsyphilis8 hey dude gimme an update! Did you grab this stick? It’s my only but the best stick I’ve ever used
I recently bought one. Waiting for it to arrive
Noir layout is ergonomic, better for those use pinky finger to press L1, L2 buttons.
Two downsides of Fight Edge: (1) 6 screws on the top will rust if you have sweaty hands, sweet almond oil will help. (2) Silver colour on 8 button bases will peel off eventually.
Noir layout is only ergonomically sensible with the elbow tucked, which isnt sensible at all.
This is why Sega 2p was made popular in so many custom sticks; it's the curvature of noir, but lines up perfectly with the elbows flared. Shame more commercial stick makers dont use it
I got this stick with Sanwa parts. But now I bought 8 hayabusa buttons for replacements. I’ll be using plugs anyway to block off the circle, R2, L1, and L2 buttons anyway lmao! But I wanted to give them a try. I just originally used Sanwa and I always wanted as close to arcades as I could but a lot of players use the hayabusa buttons and they sound nice too. Thought I’d give them a try.
Hey dude do you have the hayabusas yet? If so gimme an update! Been rocking them for a year and I love it to death, awesome stick, easy to press I have light and rapid dashes now, and the buttons feel so nice! Just ordered sanwas tho and a sanwa lever so I can try them out and I’ve always wanted to customize, how are sanwas? Only used them at my friends once and if nostalgia isn’t hitting me they were AMAZING! But nothing beats my hayabusas
@@bigdough1326 oh yeah! I’m rocking hayabusa s now. And I have the button plugs too. Haven’t tried with just 4 buttons with Sanwa, but i at least to back to my old stick and I definitely prefer my hayabusa still
Noir I think is basically what I used to play back in the arcades in the 90s
Yup, i own one too. Love it. The design,the feel.
It looks like you're purchasing a new series of controllers at this time while you still can (nice holiday self gift)
Still waiting to see you testing a "Nacon Daija". I hope soon. Greetz!
I have the Daija, and I'm honestly curious to have his opinion on it as well. It's the only fight stick I have so I can't compare it to anything else, so i'm curious to know where it stands. I personally really love it.
I currently play with 3 HRAP and this Hori Edge (different setups, Seimitsu, Sanwa...). I had the same doubt with the Noir layout, but actually, I am in love with the Edge and I think that this Noir layout is only an issue if you play with the Edge on your knees. For a few month, as I was cramped due to a not super good seat, I started to play with my sticks on my desk. In this position, the stick is a bit more distant than on knees, of course, and my arms are then naturally more straight. The noir layout is making NO issue then. In addition, the Edge on desk is making it fantastic, very close of cabinet feeling!
i got into fightsticks because of the FE, it looked so clean i basically impulse bought it and decided i was gonna get into tekken in 1 night lmao
Off-topic but I'm still drooling on your Touhou 14.5 stick.
I really like the way you do these review videos, comparing them with other ones you have and stuff, I'm a begginer at fighting games and I'm currently playing on a DS4 but I plan to get one arcade stick in the future. Here in Brazil we have a company called 2ND Impact who produces custom sticks, I think with 3D printers, they look cool, despite beeing a cheaper alternative for us here than exporting one they look like very quality products, I don't know if its easy for you to buy something from here, but maybe try one if you have the chance one day.
I love the Noir layout I prefer it to Viewlix. I have the Soul Calibur VI Hori Real Arcade Pro. I love it. My favorite Viewlix stick is Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Razer Pantera Evo. This stick looks nice it's tempting.
The reason i went with the pearl over the obsidian was partially the noir layout, since i tend to put crown 202's in everything, and i didn't want to need to chop a portion of 3 rings off to fit them by the board.... But i prefer viewlix over noir, and sega 2p over viewlix
With that said, i am looking in to a new "premium" stick with a viewlix layout, and the debate is between the massive qanba dragon, and the sleek victrix pro.
I do prefer hori stock buttons and lever over sanwa. I usually swap them out anyway, but i kept a hori rap v stock, and am looking for a rap 4 as well so i can keep one stock and swap the other with the optical lever
Yeah it's a solid stick. I modded mine with an aluminum ball top and a 1.5lb spring. I recommend looking for replacement buttons as the caps can sometimes break. The hori buttons can be found online but are limited quantity.
Uploaded this december? Rofl! I wanted to get this stick for christmas but was short on money. Still consider buying it this week!
It's my stuck ! Although there are too many stickers to see the metal plate now.
It's a really confortable stick.
I wish I grew up with these, they look so fun to play with. Like now we've got a pro controller for switch and it's not bad, but directional inputs have to be so precise.
Check out the RAP4 Kai. I love it and it’s easily modded
You could get this one and buy a Brooks adapter to use it.
It's worth pointing out that the noir layout spaces the buttons out more, it's not just angle, it's the space between the buttons that's different as well.
hayabusa parts are heaven. Noir layout 4 life
Hyabusa lever vs sanwa
Which is better?
I couldn’t be happier with my hrap4 Kai. I’d assume the quality of the fighting edge is good as well, just a different design. HORI does well.
If you ever feel like doing an upgrade, the fighting edge is amazing
I have this stick. As a bigger guy, I can appreciate its size and heft. I do wish the stick was spaced out a bit more. Overall great stick though.
Does stick also work on PS5 with Ps5 native games?
I love this stick
Nice video, I'm tempted to get one but stock over in the UK has all dried up. You can buy replacement HORI buttons and levers from ArcadeShock but I assume many other stick parts resellers will stock them as HORI do sell them separately.
I wonder if the noir layout was designed so that the entire unit would be offset towards the right. See how much space there is to the left of the stick? I wonder if the designers were giving the option to come at the stick at an angle while pressing the buttons straight on 🤔
Can't find this stick anymore 😞
Nice! I like arcade sticks with 4 buttons on the top and bottom. Mainly because im a neo geo person.
Same with me
Have you ever gotten your hands on the obsidian pearl version - I’m not sure but I think the stick placement is further away from the buttons then on the original obsidian. Was looking into a new arcade stick . I think I would like the pearl from what I see so far .
Noir layout isn't weird, it's the official layout for the namco games, so tekken and soul calibur players will feel right at home.
Dude I just love noir layout. To me it’s more natural than the viewlix.
A little copy/paste of something I wrote a while ago:
I have a fighting edge. I've heard some people say that stick is loose compared to a sanwa, but I haven't found that to be true. Over all I'd say the hori is every so slightly snappier and the sanwa feels slightly smoother, it's not as clicky as the hori. I really like the hori buttons though, at first they might feel a little hollow, but after getting used to them I think they're more responsive than the sanwa buttons. The fighting edge feels really nice in the lap, though I prefer heavy sticks, I suspect some people might not like to have it sitting in their lap for an extended period of time. I will say depending on the angle you're using the stick at the edge at the bottom of the faceplate can be uncomfortable on the forearm (Update: I actually stopped using this stick because over time that sharp bevel started causing me pain due to the angle it sits at on my lap). One weird thing, the playstation button whatever they used to put on the logo was water soluble, my finger got a little damp and it just wiped right off, you'd never even know it was there.
Yeah I think the idea behind the Hayabusa lever is that it reduces input load when pushing in directions so it has this reputation for being loose but I don’t feel that so much. Just felt like it had longer throw distance as a result. Might well be the same distance as sanwa but that’s how it feels to me anyway.
@@NihongoGamer I've heard the version of the fighting edge released is the US has a weaker spring than the one released in Japan. I have the Japanese fighting edge, so that might explain some of the difference.
Lol that’s interesting! I’m curious to try a western model just to find out
You should try a stick with a sega 2p layout. It's my personal favorite. I've also had the exact opposite experience between viewlix layout and noir. I feel like I have to keep my arm completely straight and elbows tucked in to my sides to play on viewlix layouts, whereas with the noir, I can be relaxed and let my hand rest naturally and angle some. May be individual body mechanics at work though.
7:00 it is a mystery to me why the joystick and buttons are so close on a Vewlix layout. Noir is better but like you said still kind of close.
One reason could be that because they had to fit P1 and P2 joysticks and buttons on many arcade cabinets and for some reason also decided to make that standard for P1 layout cabinets too.
It is even more of an issue to people that are over 190cm tall like me because i have wider shoulders than average Japanese shoulders.
I'm ok with the Noir distance and when i made a custom panel for my fightstick i used the Rap V Kai as reference because that has a Vewlix layout with the stick being as far as on a Noir layout.
And i don't want to push them apart even if i make a custom panel because i like to keep the layouts as authentic as possible.
Historically (before Vewlix and Namco Noir layouts) in the 90's most P1 player layouts were 6 button Noir style and most P2 spots had a 6 button Vewlix style so the P2 could play from an angle. Neither one of them were exactly like Vewlix / Noir layout but the idea was the same.
I think you meant the Ibanez Jem series. Steve Vai's signature guitar range (though he has new signature models that aren't Jem models called Pia). The RG is based on the Jem design, but it doesn't have the monkey grip handle, lion claw tremolo routing or tree of life inlays.
That is a huge hori fighting stick! Arcade style and definitely looks expensive.
It def looks more expensive than it is
If the gate is the same as on the v1.0 of the stick, it is definitely bigger than a sanwa! Messed me up like crazy at first.
Whoa! Unexpected Vai reference. I always thought those monkey grips were cool. Have you seen his recent one handed performance on RUclips?
I changed the stick and buttons but I love the layout. It is actually more in line with the natural shape of hand profile .
I changed the stick because it felt like it was knocking against the case but the sAnwa does the same so must be the case but I like the stick . Sanwa parts did improve it for me though
It only is more in line with the natural shape of the gand if you tuck your elbows in, which isn't natural.
Thats specifically why i prefer viewlix, but I'm in the minority there. However, once you try sega 2p, it blows your mind; slight curvature like noir, but it lines up perfectly with the elbows flared out. It's the best of both worlds. I hate that more companies dont offer it in commercial sticks
Nice review! Does it work with on PC ?
Bought this in 2018 for SC6. Was my first stick, so I'm a bit biased (I guess is the word?) but as a first time user of sticks since 2018, I love it.
So this is old stick
@@soufianeboutaib8197 a bit, but I still use it today!
After using Noir for a while, when I went back to Vewlix, I felt that the right most buttons felt way too far. Noir makes the button more compact to hit without reaching further out so much
Sega 2p master race; slight curve like noir, but lines up perfectly with elbows flared out
Also seems like if you play with the stick a bit further up on the legs that could solve the positioning as well...
Don’t care abt price I just like the simplicity of the fighting edge more also the positioning of buttons
Currently using the Hori RAP 4 Kai on PS5 for SFV. Has been working fine so far. Have yet to try any other games though.
The most elegant stick
i love this stick . the buttons are so nice. the joystick is great too but any recommendations on a different stick to use ?
If you still want a new stick I just got the Etokki Omni and it's pretty sick!
I bought a fighting edge and it comes tomorrow. I hope I like it...especially since I'm so used to the vewlix layout.
I have a RAP V, it has little symbols stamped into the right edge of the upper face above each side button, so you can tell what you're pushing without leaning around. They're a bit hard to see though, I don't know if they'd show up in a dimly lit room like in this video. Not sure if the other Horis have this as well.
Will you ever make videos unrelated to Fighting Games again e.g. JRPGs, gadget reviews, maybe checking out different places in Tokyo once restrictions are lifted?
My friends and I actually prefer any layout in the market other than vewlix.
I have long fingers, my first stick use Vewlix layout and I got cramp after playing for long time. Now I use HORI Fighting Stick, it's their version of Qanba Drone (they really need giving it a different name) which use Noir layout and I can play with it for a longer time.
By the way those buttons are marketed as low profile high response. They are much shallower and are nice but I’m too used to sanwa .
This video is old but I have to say I was watching it now and when you start to talk about the carry handle, for some reason I thought about the Steve Vai guitar. Then you: "it's not like a Steve Vai RG...." lol
If you install the sanwa 1mm larger actuator. It takes away that excess motion in the stick travel.
about the touch pad you can add a sticker to the right and left side so you know you can hit the middle of the touch pad
ur a genius! very good idea :)
whooof....quarantine hair has not been kind!! LOL
Sleek! Thanks for the video!
Feels like you made up your mind about the Noir layout before you even opened up the box.
Can you review the etokki omni next? And the crown korean lever on a sanwa mount if possible?
Love the etokki!
Try a Noir layout, it's less cramped more natural hand splay. You're hands will thank you.
Nice review... I have been considering this stick for many months, but not just for fighting games it is for MiSTer FPGA arcade, NES, Mega Drive, Super NES, Neo-Geo, etc. I do not like the button layout from what you are saying I think it would hurt my wrists. I have bad wrists from shattering them 20 years ago. I might need the viewlix layout. What attracted me to this Fighting Edge stick is the look of it.
I got a qanba pearl with the same layout since they're on sale
For me it felt the newer hayabusa buttons have quicker travel & return. Much improved over the older hori buttons.
Gonna be my first stick! Just ordered this and got some crown buttons and stick for it as well with the purchase :O so excited to try it out!
I like the way you say aluminum.
And a sex jokes at the start love it
Do you think this is the best performance/price arcade stick on the market? In a LAG comparison, the Qanba drone came out very well in terms of performance! Is it worth the extra price that Qanba Obsidian has? greetings thank you 🙂
I go back and forth noir-vewlix layouts as I have 2 RAPs and one Edge and man, that is such a minor issue.
Is it possible to button map with the fighting edge? iirc Hori Sako had his L1 mapped to a neutral button that allowed him to plink.
I was thinking of getting the crossup from hitbox because of compatibility with all systems and because I really like the plexi glass and buttons on the hitbox. Any thoughts?
Thanks for the video. I think you mesh well with the stick bro. Lol.
2:50 The biggest difference of the Noir layout compared to Vewlix layout is that the 1,2,3,4 buttons (example of Tekken button numbers) are close to on top of each other.
If you look at a Tekken movelist the icons are close to this layout.
And more accurately it is the Namco Noir layout from the Namco Noir arcade cabinet. It's basically the same layout as the classic Sega Astro City 1P and Taito Egret layouts.
New video heck yeah
Thanks for the great review! If you were buying an arcade stick, would you choose the Razer Panthera EVO (latest version) or the Hori Fighting EDGE for home usage?
For home use the Hori FE’s weight and size is good because it doesn’t slip around too much. For traveling the Panthers Evo fits much better in a bag though.
@@NihongoGamer Awesome, thank you for the advice and for clearing my doubts, I'll stick with Hori FE.
Nihongo,is Past Gen Fighting Edge (one with touchpad) for 50$ a good deal?
Because i have one listing in mind,but seller doesnt ship outside of his town(
Never tried previous gen sticks. Factor in the price of lever/button/PCB replacements and then see if it’s still worth the savings
One question about the layout tho: Is there anyone placing their stick on their desk as opposed to their lap? Maybe the layout shines more if you had the stick on a table where you can align it in such a way that your right arm is straight and you angle your left forearm/hand to reach the stick? Any table top gamers in chat or is that generally not something people would do?
Hey,what fight stick that can connect to ps4 and laptop?