Fun fact if you marry Alex as a male farmer you can get a voice line from his grandpa saying “two men getting married it’s a bit weird to me” then if you talk to him again he says “mabye I’m just old in my ways”
Yeah that's what ruined his grandpa for me. I used to really like him, the wheelchair animations made me happy and feel seen, but then I found out he's just a homophobic old fart. There's genuinely no excuse for getting made uncomfortable by homosexuality in this day and age. I truly don't understand the defense of him. 'He's learning!' well gay people have been around a lot longer than he has, so he's had plenty of time to learn. There's plenty of gay people his age, so age isn't an excuse, he's just being willfully ignorant and trying to cover it up.
in fact george completely changes his mind when you become good enough friends with him and he realizes how much you and alex love each other. it’s so sweet :’)
As a female farmer, I wasn't gonna date him, plus I was already married, but I did befriend him. And boy, when I saw his 8 heart event and saw his mom, and realized she looks EXACTLY like my farmer did before I gave her short hair... Basically my headcanon now is that I'm a motherly figure in his life lmao
Alex is the type that would try to not peek at his teammates in the locker room and then go hit on the cheerleaders just to prove to himself that his "weird dream" the night before was really just a weird dream
It really shows how Evelyn is way more open minded than him, the only thing that changes between male and female farmer is Evelyn calling the farme her grandson instead of her granddaughter
I don't think he changes his "ways". More like, he doesn't understand it, but he accepts it as he sees both alex and male farmer being happy together. So more of a " not understanding but respecting" kind of way
Don't forget that George originally while against the concept of two guys getting together, after seeing Alex so genuinely happy with you, accepts and encourages your relationship, even if he doesn't fully understand it.
At first I didn't notice the changes and I thought Alex behaved the same with both of the farmers, but after seeing how Alex behaved with my friend, I realized why she hated him and I love him. PS: Alex and Male farmer should be canon
In my first play of stardew I thought Alex was cool so I dated him and then at the flower dance he said haley looked hot so I dumped him and went for sebastian bc I had full hearts with him and Alex always said he didn't like him 😅
@@lemonb0y2007 did you also religiously watch strawberry shortcake(old / new one) and the same for barbie movies honorable mentions for monster high and ever after high
I remember seeing survey results on the Stardew Valley subreddit for the popularities of the different marriage candidates. They broke down the data by player or player character gender and found that Alex was the most popular bachelor among gay men and the least popular bachelor among straight women.
i think it’s the same with haley and the female farmer-her character arc is so satisfying as a sapphic and watching her go from mean and catty to loving and open is so sweet
She was my first marriage partner, and my character was female--once you developed the friendship, all her scenes were SO good and she really grew as a person! And she's a wonderful wife too ❤
Honestly I agree. And to be fair Hayley and Alex are seen as the “pairing” if not with the farmer, so I like that a lot. Hayley with female farmer is so much more interesting, and she really does become quite a sweetheart. I love all the female romance options, but Hayley definitely has the biggest personal progression which I find very cool.
@@RowanWolf22 its funny to me for alex and hailey to be the "canon"(as in they'd be together if the farmer goes for someone else) pairing when both of their storylines are different and more interesting if you go for the wlw/mlm route, sounds like comphet to me 😂
It's kinda funny. When I first played, I quickly picked on the fact that some villagers were datable due to the (single) below the character's name and I just looked at the sprites of the characters and thought sure I'll go for this one, learned his name was Alex and soon enough was invested into the dude's story and only later learned that the dialogue was completely different depending on your character's gender.
@@cryingwatercolours8127 Same here. I thought she was cool after I discovered we can marry the npc only to realise we can ONLY marry the SINGLE npc. It still funny for thinking about it now.
My personal theory is that he doesn't want to play catch with female farmers because he used to play with his mom, and doesn't want to be reminded of it because she passed.
SUUUUURE. And all the other sexist things? He orders you a salad for the 10 heart event as a female farmer and for himself a steak. He is just a sexist jerk when you're playing as a woman.
@@rauchschwalbelp7693 how does that prove anything That's probably just supposed to be a generic option because he doesn't know what you'd want to eat
romancing alex as a man also has alex have a gay panic because alex initially doesnt think he likes guys and you change that for him. his ten heart event (the dinner he invites you to) has him come clean about how he tried to repress his feelings for the player but just couldnt. it was really funny tho, as a gay guy playing stardew and having alex say 'i wish there were more girls in town, you know what i mean?' and i just sat there and said 'no, alex. i dont know what you mean'
Its funny I was originally going to date I think it was Shane? Though maybe it was Sebastian. Whoever he was he wasn't an option at the time though he's patched in now. So I decided on Alex instead and man am I'm glad because that was a wonderful story.
When you play as the male farmer his story becomes about him opening up, and realize a part of himself he didnt know or bother to explore before which ends up being a lot more interesting! instead of just an unremarkable jock romance when you play as a girl
Something I noticed about Alex as well is that his reaction in the group 10 heart is also VERY different. If you’re a girl, he’ll be pissed, acting all tough and even calling you trash; but if you’re a dude, he’ll feel heartbroken and used, saying he thought “we were one of a kind” 😭😭 (Oh my god wth did I start, I just wanted to point out a neat detail in the game)
damn 💀💀 thank god i only did mlm or wlw couples in my games (exception of my first playthu where i married sebastian as a girl) 😭😭 i just didnt wanna be in a straight relationship LMFAOOO
I think what makes Alex more gay in the canon is the fact that he tries so hard with the female farmer, and even with the male farmer, saying "I wish there was more girls in the valley" like fr? But as he progresses with the male farmer, he opens up to him and is more genuine than with the female farmer. Or I just read too much BL who knows 💅✨
Alex is such a sweetheart once you get to know him! Also I maintain that he’s one of the few characters who actually WANTS to work live/work on the farm. Most of the others have dreams they kind of end up giving up when you marry them, but Alex discovers that living on a farm, getting a husband, and being the good dad he never had is his new dream 😭
Alex was the first bachelor i ever married in stardew specifically because he looked like a homophobic dudebro & i immediately was like "wouldnt it be so funny if i married him"
i only do alex route with M|M story, it’s way better than any other route. something about seeing alex struggle with his sexuality and his feelings towards the male farmer is too adorable
Not only that but if you get 15 hearts with Alex and 10 hearts with his grandfather his grandfather opens up and becomes more accepting towards you and Alex’s marriage
I LOVE Alex as a female farmer! Of course his romance was so good when you play as a male farmer because of obvious reasons, but I think he shines just as bright when you romance him as a female farmer! I think people just do not give him a chance because of bad first impressions, ie. he is cocky, misogynistic and comes off as insensitive but from his dialogue it shows it does not come from a place of maliciousness and more so towards his upbringing? People forget he had an abusive father & his mother passed away, and is raised by two elderly people (and George isn’t really known to be the nicest towards people lol.) And he’s best friends with Haley who I love, but is quite the diva and primadonna! But despite all that, if you do give him a chance you slowly see his walls lowering down as he exposes himself to you. His 4, 6 & 8 heart event shows you why he acts like that and how he acknowledges his mistakes. He even apologizes to you for it, and tries to be a better man! He pours his heart out to you in your marriage with him, and he truly is the sweetest man ever :,) I know people hate his 10 heart event but I honestly loved it LOL. It is sweet and traditional, he takes you out for dinner at the saloon, he tries to impress you and confesses his love to you. So completely old-fashioned but seeing how he lives with his grandparents, it makes sense why he does so. All the other love interests’ 10 heart events have kissing + other things involved but I like how Alex’s doesn’t! Very old fashioned yet somehow gentlemanly and chivalrous 😭 And when he becomes your husband… that is when he truly shines!!! Alex is forever best boy, I love him so so much ❤😭🫶
@@jiji3155YES! T_T I love Alex, as a female farmer. I kinda feel uncomfortable playing as a make farmer cause I’m a girl, ya know? Besides Alex is so sweet and wonderful. And I love the breakfasts he gives, and he’s romantic! So many of the other bachelors aren’t. 💕
I’m trying to romance him for the first time. This playthrough is really only my third time making a save and will be my second time getting as far as marriage despite how long i’ve own the game. And I also avoided Alex because of those first impression, or at least didn’t see him as a love interest. But for some reason during this save he was one of the character I was growing a relationship with the faster. Not sure why, since I do try to befriend everyone and attempt to remember to give gifts on birthdays so I wasn’t trying to do anything particular different. But him and Abigail were my highest hearts when it came to marriage candidates. I do like Abigail events. But I also adored Alex’s heart events. It came down to me deciding whether I wanted to be gay or straight. Every time I’ve played this game or games like this I always ended up going for the girls because I found the girls character to be more in depth as lovers. So I said, let try the straight route for once and went for Alex as it was the male character I naturally grew a relationship with the strongest just by how I was playing. I didn’t aim for him at all from the beginning, so I thought it was just neat to go with the character I somehow became the most friends with. And though I haven’t asked him to marry yet, we are dating. And I don’t hate him by any means. I do see how someone his comments come by as misogynistic, but as you said, there are reasons for that and those walls come down the more you know him. I thought him asking me out on a dinner date was adorable as I have no tradition dinner date experiences in my real life. And for all I know my character chose to have the salad. Your character is often forced into actions without your input in a lot of events, your character just chooses to do them. So maybe my character chose the salad off screen.
I always loved Alex's story while playing as a male farmer. He says he thought it was wrong to feel that way about another man, but he realized eventually that it wasn't.
Since I always default as a guy especially in video games I saw Alex and genuinely started liking him and so in my second farm I started romancing him but I was always so confused on what people meant when they said they hated him. I knew there were dialogue changes for the two genders but I didn’t know Alex had a whole personality change
I'm doing this right now! The George dialogue is also quite different. But also now that I learned what Sebastian's 14 heart event is I may have to dump him for the nerd...
@OfficalTCMnowayoutChannel I agree. While I absolutely adore the story behind Alex and a Male Famer, Alex was who I married on my first play through, so he'll always have a special place in my heart. Whenever I read things like "only male farmers should marry Alex", I feel kinda guilty, as if I played the game wrong. Which is frustrating because the whole point of Stardew marriages is that the candidates don't have set sexuality.
@@kk_612 completely! I think people just really want LGBTQ+ community in the game for some candidates and it ruins the games because we have people saying one gender should marry this candidate because it’s “canon” when it’s really not. What’s canon is in your story and your story alone, not what other people say. So Alex is canon to both genders if you marry him. Don’t be guilty, have fun! It’s your game and you can play it how you want!
@@T1CKING_TR1GG3RS I completely agree and don’t think that the creator of this video is actually trying to keep girls from marrying Alex she’s making a (pretty valid) point that the relationship between Alex and the male player is much more fulfilling since, not only does Alex treat the male player with much more respect than the female counterpart, but the end of the romance includes the satisfying end of Alex eventually learning to accept himself and others in terms of homosexuality, which is only available when you play as male On the other hand, while i’ve never romanced alex in any playthrough (and i don’t know if it actually happens in the story,) i think it’d be neat if Alex’s growing friendship with the female player is an arc of his own, and he learns to drop his misogynistic tendencies and that everyone, regardless of gender, should be treated equally Again, i don’t know if that development between the female player and Alex is actually in the game, but i think it’d be almost equally fulfilling were it included, and the ending between the female vs. male player could be summed up like: Male player: no longer homophobic (but maybe still misogynistic?) Female player: no longer misogynistic (but maybe still homophobic?) Considering he’d only be able to choose *one* of growth and the other would remain, it’d be kinda bittersweet i suppose
@ChocciMilkk that's kinda already the case. Regardless of the players gender, his storyline focuses on him maturing past the toxic ideas that his abusive father taught him. Alex is never really homophobic or misogynistic. He's clearly just repeating things he learned from his father. Both storylines are already fulfilling because, ultimately, it's the same idea.
He will still always be my go to even if I only ever play as a female farmer. He was really just ignorant, he never had any ill will. He grows and learns he was a douche. People give all the slack in the world for Shane, but never give Alex a second glance.
Was I seriously the only person who got the dialogue with Alex: “This place is a mess, the least you could do is sweep around here” I have always given him gifts, kept his hearts up, did the boys cave at the bar- AND am at max hearts with him, and he says THIS TO ME!?! Babe, a divorce is only 50k, better fix that damn attitude 😤😤
lol from what I learned about the game you placed furniture in his walk path. It’s the game tell you the npc can’t move if you place something there. All the marriage candidates get mad and tell you to clean up if you do this. Just sounds worse coming from Alex I guess.
@@cookieridergirlThe spouses saying that is actually insane. The farmer is the breadwinner working 24/7 & they have the audacity to say that, instant divorce bro 😭
As female character, he treat u like a cheap. As a male character, he always brag and felt that he is your idol. But I love him when he is as a husband. Especially when he is always showing off his new undie in night dialogue. A little nice show after hard work is a healing. 😂
As a girl farmer, I welcomed his flirtatious comments. They don't seem creepy to me at all. But different strokes for different folks! I don't mind a guy who's openly attracted to my girl.
Honestly was hoping for Alex to be more of a himbo character when dating the female farmer. Like the farmer character is canonically super strong and (if you mine) very skilled in combat, so it would be cool to see him go from being sexist to admiring her for her strength. What's better than one strong spouse? Two strong spouses.
literally met him on my first day. immediately tried to max his hearts. married him a day after giving him a bouquet through some insane luck 😭😭 didn't even care about the story but looking back he's still probably the best bachelor. CA didn't give his female dialogue justice
As I told my brother, if I am made to pick between one character to marry, I said I'd go for Elliot, Harvey or Alex And from the three, I would beeline for Alex Ironically, he shares name with my boyfriend, it makes stuff confusing when I also watch a streamer named Alex
@@HandsomeRileyi respect people who go for other bachelors but im glad im not the only one who has one sided beef with elliot and harvey 😅 ESPECIALLY harvey... i got married to maru and he still said the "i wonder if maru wants sunscreen on her shoulders" line during the luau. oh i was so mad!! kinda hope CA fixed that during the 1.6 update
@@carat_light lol I’m glad I have a club of Harvey/elliot haters! Though in my opinion Alex is only good if you play as a male character! He’s honestly nicer that way! I mostly go for the bachelorettes though. Haley and abi are my go to’s! I have actually never gone with Maru, how does she act in the marriage/dating playthroughs?
@@HandsomeRiley aww i love haley and abi, it's been a while since i played my save file with maru but she's a sweetheart tbh! underrated spouse. i decided to go for her because my character was basically a pink alien so why not do astronomer scientist x alien. she has a whole arc where she finally proves herself to her dad (because he thinks we're fooling around in their basement or something but shes actually making a robot 😭) and she gives useful stuff like materials or batteries as presents. the only thing that bothers me is that harvey continues to crush on maru even when you're married to her, kinda like clint with emily. she literally says "harvey keeps on trying to talk to me, but all i want is a piece of this roast" like sir! move along please 😅 but yeah she's great
Also in the cheating cutscene if you’re a girl he’ll get mad at you but if you’re a man he gets sad and says “I thought we had something special…” mlm alex real
i picked alex at first because i was kinda sick of the usual popular choices and i was honestly surprised with how wholesome his story becomes!! especially with how his grandfather opens up to you over time. honestly my favorite part was alex being able to heal from his trauma and thanking you for giving him the family he didn’t get to have as a kid. made me cry
@@merlinho0tyeah with haley she’s mean initially but gets better whereas alex just Always has this dudebro attitude to the female farmer even at 8+ hearts it’s so tiring lol but babygirl haley is my dear sunshine girl
He’s actually really sweet towards the female farmer in the end. The rude comments were a mask and when you become his friend, he also opens up to you. And once married spends each day telling you how lucky he is and how much he loves you, helps you on the farm and is productive in his own life. ❤ Though I try to get other partners I always fall for him over again 😂
This game was wild to interact with Alex in my current playthrough. I made my farmer, realized an hour in that, in my waffling over who to make, I accidentally picked female instead of male, and had to spend some time befriending the wizard to access the gender affirming basement. The change in Alex's interaction with my farmer was immediate. The next cutscene I had with Alex was him apologizing for his attitude, so yeah. I know that specific cutscene is the same no matter what gender you pick, but damn does it hit different when you accidentally make a transmasc character 😂
I love Evelyn and George's dialogue during it especially because they will say something about how they never thought gay marriage was okay until the farmer came along
I honestly still fail to see how everyone views the stereotypical jock personality as canonically gay just because he's just slightly misogynistic. Like I married him but it's weird cause there's no dialogue that specifically makes me feel like he's exclusively or leans into dudes. Get out the BL fanfics lol.
Omg this explains so much. In my play through, I made myself an androgynous male farmer and immediately took a liking to Alex. My friend told me they hated Alex but I didn’t get why until this short. They play as the female farmer. Who knew the their love for money and my love for cookies got us two different scenarios 😂
I once accidentally created a trans farmer. The whole look was female, hair, skirt, name, but i forgot to change the gender. It was only when i talked to Alex that i noticed because he mentions your gender. No other villager does. Well, now Alex has a trans mtf "hubby". Sadly i could not wear a dress at the wedding.
You can change the gender of your farmer at the wizards tower. After reaching 4 hearts with the Wizard, the basement opens up, letting you access the Shrine of Illusions, where you can change gender, name, and appearance of your character, for 500G. Then the Valley would refer to them correctly ^^
AND ALSO THE INTERNAL HOMOPHOBIA BC OF HOW HE WAS RAISED- and also once you marry him if you don't have (I think) 6 (or 8 maybe) hearts with George he'll say "how can two men get married? It's unnatural... hmph... I guess I'm just "old fashioned".
playing as a guy also helps recontextualize his misogyny as a closeted boy performing heterosexuality. It makes for a really nice story of self acceptance that you just don't really get playing as a woman.
I played as male and married Alex, his dialogue for his 10 heart event actually hurt me inside!!! It’s the same for Sebastian where they both realize they can Have feelings for guys! I know some of the girls feel this way too. I think Haley does???
that's pretty accurate of some guys, though. a misogynistic guy won't necessarily show he's a misogynist to other guys until there's a girl around for him to disrespect.
I mean they are bisexual to us because we know that they are datable regardless of the gender we use. But in a specific save they can be just straight, gay or bisexual, since you only have confirmation that they are into your gender. For example with Leah, if you play as a girl she will only hint towards liking girls, even tho she could still be bi. Abigail, Sebastian and Alex on the other hand have dialogues where they mention that they never felt that way towards the same gender before, so if u are playing as the opposite gender u can just assume that they are straight since in that save file they wouldn’t have fell in love with the same gender farmer.
@@drouziczhonestly all games that have a dating feature for both genders should be bi. Don't limit the gender of who i can date if they're all not real anyways!
No matter what gender you are when you play, Alex seems tough at first because he hides his traumas, he wants to appear strong, a real man, but when he starts to get closer to the farmer he realizes that feelings and sincerity are not a weakness. It's just closed in its shell, inside it's very sweet with both the female farmer and the male farmer. I prefer Alex because I feel the need to help heal the boys' wounds and because I love his grandparents.
This isn’t true. 😂 No offense. His story is the exact same regardless of your gender. He slowly opens up about his trauma with both genders. And becomes very sweet.
I remember sitting with my bf explaining why Alex is the best husband, going through each bachelor and what not and he just responded “just say you think Alex is hot babe, I can take it”
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Fun fact if you marry Alex as a male farmer you can get a voice line from his grandpa saying “two men getting married it’s a bit weird to me” then if you talk to him again he says “mabye I’m just old in my ways”
homophobia unlearning? we love to see it :)
Yeah that's what ruined his grandpa for me. I used to really like him, the wheelchair animations made me happy and feel seen, but then I found out he's just a homophobic old fart. There's genuinely no excuse for getting made uncomfortable by homosexuality in this day and age. I truly don't understand the defense of him. 'He's learning!' well gay people have been around a lot longer than he has, so he's had plenty of time to learn. There's plenty of gay people his age, so age isn't an excuse, he's just being willfully ignorant and trying to cover it up.
in fact george completely changes his mind when you become good enough friends with him and he realizes how much you and alex love each other. it’s so sweet :’)
@@olidon96george is a nice old man with an irritated exterior
You forget about the best part when you've befriended George
Hes the type of guy to act homophobic when hes actually just in denial
😂 what a reach
Lol basically this xD good thing he comes to his senses 🏳️🌈
Its more of internalized homophobia instead of externalized
I don't play stardew but I can see it lol
@@MrGearsfan5I literally is his cannon storyline in the game if you romance him as a guy, NPC take
As a female farmer, I wasn't gonna date him, plus I was already married, but I did befriend him. And boy, when I saw his 8 heart event and saw his mom, and realized she looks EXACTLY like my farmer did before I gave her short hair... Basically my headcanon now is that I'm a motherly figure in his life lmao
Is his mom shown in the 8 heart event??? I’ve never seen her
Wait nvm, I remember that floating picture of her lol
that's actually so cute omg
Alex gets the Yuki ending, lol.
Kyut ngl
Alex is the type that would try to not peek at his teammates in the locker room and then go hit on the cheerleaders just to prove to himself that his "weird dream" the night before was really just a weird dream
Omg, yes, 100% 😂😂😂
My man lives in denial
Holy shit this is true af
My boy Alex is a river in Egypt
Plus you get George to change his mind on gay marriage
It really shows how Evelyn is way more open minded than him, the only thing that changes between male and female farmer is Evelyn calling the farme her grandson instead of her granddaughter
@@alexandrert8252 true. But she is the town grandma who everyone loves and who will gladly share her cookie recipe ❤️
@@alexandrert8252 it also shows how even bigoted people can change their ways and become better people
@@CreatorProductionsOriginalMore like sane people can become insane thanks to New brain diseases
I don't think he changes his "ways".
More like, he doesn't understand it, but he accepts it as he sees both alex and male farmer being happy together.
So more of a " not understanding but respecting" kind of way
Don't forget that George originally while against the concept of two guys getting together, after seeing Alex so genuinely happy with you, accepts and encourages your relationship, even if he doesn't fully understand it.
Ew
@@Andrew-ch3xjyt is 13+
@@no1uno388 wait youtube has an age rating?
@@hello.9958 yes.
In my country yt is 16+ in fact, i think in the usa its 13
While it is officially 13+, any age can use RUclips as long as they are enabled by their guardian (as stated in the TOS)@@no1uno388
At first I didn't notice the changes and I thought Alex behaved the same with both of the farmers, but after seeing how Alex behaved with my friend, I realized why she hated him and I love him.
PS: Alex and Male farmer should be canon
In my first play of stardew I thought Alex was cool so I dated him and then at the flower dance he said haley looked hot so I dumped him and went for sebastian bc I had full hearts with him and Alex always said he didn't like him 😅
@@-Nameless. Revenge XD
@@lemonb0y2007 omg wait i just read ur name its awesome also born in 2007 😎
@@-Nameless. Awesome 😎
@@lemonb0y2007 did you also religiously watch strawberry shortcake(old / new one) and the same for barbie movies honorable mentions for monster high and ever after high
I remember seeing survey results on the Stardew Valley subreddit for the popularities of the different marriage candidates. They broke down the data by player or player character gender and found that Alex was the most popular bachelor among gay men and the least popular bachelor among straight women.
STOP IM GAY AND I MARRY ALEX 😭😭😭
Because we love sporty men, himbos even..
I’m a woman and I chose him, so that’s interesting to learn 😅
@@CaitilizzieI chose him my first play through too 😂
I'm in this picture and I don't like it 🤐
i think it’s the same with haley and the female farmer-her character arc is so satisfying as a sapphic and watching her go from mean and catty to loving and open is so sweet
FR She was my first route, even before i realized i was bisexual
She was my first marriage partner, and my character was female--once you developed the friendship, all her scenes were SO good and she really grew as a person! And she's a wonderful wife too ❤
Honestly I agree. And to be fair Hayley and Alex are seen as the “pairing” if not with the farmer, so I like that a lot. Hayley with female farmer is so much more interesting, and she really does become quite a sweetheart. I love all the female romance options, but Hayley definitely has the biggest personal progression which I find very cool.
@@RowanWolf22 its funny to me for alex and hailey to be the "canon"(as in they'd be together if the farmer goes for someone else) pairing when both of their storylines are different and more interesting if you go for the wlw/mlm route, sounds like comphet to me 😂
@@SoulFlames. personal hc is that they're each other's beards lol
Hear me out female farmer x haley, male farmer x alex
Literally my exact play throughs
LITERALLY MY TWO PLAYTHROUGH
100% only right answer
How does haley act differently between male and female farmer?
My saves look literally like this
I feel like Alex would have crushes on the members of his favorite sport teams but think it's just admiration
Like the pictures in his locker at the hot spring.. . 0.0
That's my headcanon now:3
He's just dreaming of being Tom Brady's son and getting those kisses on the lips like Tom Brady does to his children🤣
@@lukeandliz HELP? 😭
It's kinda funny. When I first played, I quickly picked on the fact that some villagers were datable due to the (single) below the character's name and I just looked at the sprites of the characters and thought sure I'll go for this one, learned his name was Alex and soon enough was invested into the dude's story and only later learned that the dialogue was completely different depending on your character's gender.
i did that
with robin
thought the fact she didn’t have single under her meant i could get her divorced and steal her
@@cryingwatercolours8127 Same here. I thought she was cool after I discovered we can marry the npc only to realise we can ONLY marry the SINGLE npc. It still funny for thinking about it now.
My personal theory is that he doesn't want to play catch with female farmers because he used to play with his mom, and doesn't want to be reminded of it because she passed.
That's so cute 😭😭😭
Awwww told y'all he was 😍😍😍
Everything I do is usually satire
SUUUUURE. And all the other sexist things? He orders you a salad for the 10 heart event as a female farmer and for himself a steak. He is just a sexist jerk when you're playing as a woman.
@@rauchschwalbelp7693 how does that prove anything
That's probably just supposed to be a generic option because he doesn't know what you'd want to eat
romancing alex as a man also has alex have a gay panic because alex initially doesnt think he likes guys and you change that for him. his ten heart event (the dinner he invites you to) has him come clean about how he tried to repress his feelings for the player but just couldnt.
it was really funny tho, as a gay guy playing stardew and having alex say 'i wish there were more girls in town, you know what i mean?' and i just sat there and said 'no, alex. i dont know what you mean'
Its funny I was originally going to date I think it was Shane? Though maybe it was Sebastian. Whoever he was he wasn't an option at the time though he's patched in now.
So I decided on Alex instead and man am I'm glad because that was a wonderful story.
When you play as the male farmer his story becomes about him opening up, and realize a part of himself he didnt know or bother to explore before which ends up being a lot more interesting! instead of just an unremarkable jock romance when you play as a girl
Something I noticed about Alex as well is that his reaction in the group 10 heart is also VERY different.
If you’re a girl, he’ll be pissed, acting all tough and even calling you trash; but if you’re a dude, he’ll feel heartbroken and used, saying he thought “we were one of a kind” 😭😭
(Oh my god wth did I start, I just wanted to point out a neat detail in the game)
That's amazing!!! Every day I find something new to love about this game 💞 Thanks for sharing this fact!
this just hurt my heart damn😭
damn 💀💀 thank god i only did mlm or wlw couples in my games (exception of my first playthu where i married sebastian as a girl) 😭😭 i just didnt wanna be in a straight relationship LMFAOOO
@@kaitlynmorgan4613man ur literally me, my only wlm marriage was on my first save in 2020 who i was a female fwrmer and married harvey
A true latent gay misogynist
IMO he should ask where the bikini at to both farmers, no matter what. It would be amazing.
I think what makes Alex more gay in the canon is the fact that he tries so hard with the female farmer, and even with the male farmer, saying "I wish there was more girls in the valley" like fr? But as he progresses with the male farmer, he opens up to him and is more genuine than with the female farmer.
Or I just read too much BL who knows 💅✨
Reading too much bL is so real tho 😅
No such thing as too much BL
@@annabelleoscarson3396 I like the way you think
Bl content makes up like 90% of my ao3 bookmarks 😭 its an addiction frr
What is bl?
Alex is such a sweetheart once you get to know him! Also I maintain that he’s one of the few characters who actually WANTS to work live/work on the farm. Most of the others have dreams they kind of end up giving up when you marry them, but Alex discovers that living on a farm, getting a husband, and being the good dad he never had is his new dream 😭
I only marry Alex so I can be Evelyn's granddaughter
YOU GET IT OMG I would die to have a grandma like evelyn🥲
Evelyn best girl
you are so real for that omg
I'm also doing that. I want grandparents 😭
This! Evelynn was the deciding factor for me 😂
Alex was the first bachelor i ever married in stardew specifically because he looked like a homophobic dudebro & i immediately was like "wouldnt it be so funny if i married him"
i only do alex route with M|M story, it’s way better than any other route. something about seeing alex struggle with his sexuality and his feelings towards the male farmer is too adorable
Not only that but if you get 15 hearts with Alex and 10 hearts with his grandfather his grandfather opens up and becomes more accepting towards you and Alex’s marriage
I LOVE Alex as a female farmer! Of course his romance was so good when you play as a male farmer because of obvious reasons, but I think he shines just as bright when you romance him as a female farmer!
I think people just do not give him a chance because of bad first impressions, ie. he is cocky, misogynistic and comes off as insensitive but from his dialogue it shows it does not come from a place of maliciousness and more so towards his upbringing?
People forget he had an abusive father & his mother passed away, and is raised by two elderly people (and George isn’t really known to be the nicest towards people lol.) And he’s best friends with Haley who I love, but is quite the diva and primadonna!
But despite all that, if you do give him a chance you slowly see his walls lowering down as he exposes himself to you. His 4, 6 & 8 heart event shows you why he acts like that and how he acknowledges his mistakes. He even apologizes to you for it, and tries to be a better man! He pours his heart out to you in your marriage with him, and he truly is the sweetest man ever :,)
I know people hate his 10 heart event but I honestly loved it LOL. It is sweet and traditional, he takes you out for dinner at the saloon, he tries to impress you and confesses his love to you. So completely old-fashioned but seeing how he lives with his grandparents, it makes sense why he does so. All the other love interests’ 10 heart events have kissing + other things involved but I like how Alex’s doesn’t! Very old fashioned yet somehow gentlemanly and chivalrous 😭
And when he becomes your husband… that is when he truly shines!!! Alex is forever best boy, I love him so so much ❤😭🫶
REALLLLL‼️everyone should marry Alex regardless of gender no lie
Alex is my #1 person to marry in the game!❤❤❤ All this slander is really not it lol
@@ButterflyFiction13 omg this alex slander pains me too
@@jiji3155YES! T_T I love Alex, as a female farmer. I kinda feel uncomfortable playing as a make farmer cause I’m a girl, ya know? Besides Alex is so sweet and wonderful. And I love the breakfasts he gives, and he’s romantic! So many of the other bachelors aren’t. 💕
I’m trying to romance him for the first time. This playthrough is really only my third time making a save and will be my second time getting as far as marriage despite how long i’ve own the game. And I also avoided Alex because of those first impression, or at least didn’t see him as a love interest. But for some reason during this save he was one of the character I was growing a relationship with the faster. Not sure why, since I do try to befriend everyone and attempt to remember to give gifts on birthdays so I wasn’t trying to do anything particular different. But him and Abigail were my highest hearts when it came to marriage candidates. I do like Abigail events. But I also adored Alex’s heart events. It came down to me deciding whether I wanted to be gay or straight. Every time I’ve played this game or games like this I always ended up going for the girls because I found the girls character to be more in depth as lovers. So I said, let try the straight route for once and went for Alex as it was the male character I naturally grew a relationship with the strongest just by how I was playing. I didn’t aim for him at all from the beginning, so I thought it was just neat to go with the character I somehow became the most friends with. And though I haven’t asked him to marry yet, we are dating. And I don’t hate him by any means. I do see how someone his comments come by as misogynistic, but as you said, there are reasons for that and those walls come down the more you know him. I thought him asking me out on a dinner date was adorable as I have no tradition dinner date experiences in my real life. And for all I know my character chose to have the salad. Your character is often forced into actions without your input in a lot of events, your character just chooses to do them. So maybe my character chose the salad off screen.
I always loved Alex's story while playing as a male farmer. He says he thought it was wrong to feel that way about another man, but he realized eventually that it wasn't.
Half of pelican town are just chaotic bisexuals and I’m here for it
Since I always default as a guy especially in video games I saw Alex and genuinely started liking him and so in my second farm I started romancing him but I was always so confused on what people meant when they said they hated him. I knew there were dialogue changes for the two genders but I didn’t know Alex had a whole personality change
Its not really a personality change he is just sexist Dx
I'm doing this right now! The George dialogue is also quite different. But also now that I learned what Sebastian's 14 heart event is I may have to dump him for the nerd...
The frog one, right? It’s been so long, he was my first spouse
Didn’t mind romancing him as female farmer. He still has growth and is so sweet as a husband ❤️
Yea idc either, both is canon so why should it be one gender or the other? Everyone should have fun. 😁👍🏽
@OfficalTCMnowayoutChannel I agree. While I absolutely adore the story behind Alex and a Male Famer, Alex was who I married on my first play through, so he'll always have a special place in my heart. Whenever I read things like "only male farmers should marry Alex", I feel kinda guilty, as if I played the game wrong. Which is frustrating because the whole point of Stardew marriages is that the candidates don't have set sexuality.
@@kk_612 completely! I think people just really want LGBTQ+ community in the game for some candidates and it ruins the games because we have people saying one gender should marry this candidate because it’s “canon” when it’s really not. What’s canon is in your story and your story alone, not what other people say. So Alex is canon to both genders if you marry him. Don’t be guilty, have fun! It’s your game and you can play it how you want!
@@T1CKING_TR1GG3RS I completely agree and don’t think that the creator of this video is actually trying to keep girls from marrying Alex
she’s making a (pretty valid) point that the relationship between Alex and the male player is much more fulfilling since, not only does Alex treat the male player with much more respect than the female counterpart, but the end of the romance includes the satisfying end of Alex eventually learning to accept himself and others in terms of homosexuality, which is only available when you play as male
On the other hand, while i’ve never romanced alex in any playthrough (and i don’t know if it actually happens in the story,) i think it’d be neat if Alex’s growing friendship with the female player is an arc of his own, and he learns to drop his misogynistic tendencies and that everyone, regardless of gender, should be treated equally
Again, i don’t know if that development between the female player and Alex is actually in the game, but i think it’d be almost equally fulfilling were it included, and the ending between the female vs. male player could be summed up like:
Male player: no longer homophobic (but maybe still misogynistic?)
Female player: no longer misogynistic (but maybe still homophobic?)
Considering he’d only be able to choose *one* of growth and the other would remain, it’d be kinda bittersweet i suppose
@ChocciMilkk that's kinda already the case. Regardless of the players gender, his storyline focuses on him maturing past the toxic ideas that his abusive father taught him. Alex is never really homophobic or misogynistic. He's clearly just repeating things he learned from his father. Both storylines are already fulfilling because, ultimately, it's the same idea.
He will still always be my go to even if I only ever play as a female farmer. He was really just ignorant, he never had any ill will. He grows and learns he was a douche. People give all the slack in the world for Shane, but never give Alex a second glance.
His grandfather is homophobic, but he accepts you after realizing how happy his grandson is
Kind of how Leah has a whole coming out story when you play as a girl
Oh, so that's why people like her so much!
This! I don’t think I could ever bring myself to pair Alex with a female farmer or Leah with a male one
Was I seriously the only person who got the dialogue with Alex:
“This place is a mess, the least you could do is sweep around here”
I have always given him gifts, kept his hearts up, did the boys cave at the bar- AND am at max hearts with him, and he says THIS TO ME!?!
Babe, a divorce is only 50k, better fix that damn attitude 😤😤
This usually happens when you place something in the spouse's path
I assume you were a woman in-game. No?
@@sandorkarolydeneskarcsi3271 I played as a guy
lol from what I learned about the game you placed furniture in his walk path. It’s the game tell you the npc can’t move if you place something there. All the marriage candidates get mad and tell you to clean up if you do this. Just sounds worse coming from Alex I guess.
@@cookieridergirlThe spouses saying that is actually insane. The farmer is the breadwinner working 24/7 & they have the audacity to say that, instant divorce bro 😭
As female character, he treat u like a cheap. As a male character, he always brag and felt that he is your idol.
But I love him when he is as a husband. Especially when he is always showing off his new undie in night dialogue. A little nice show after hard work is a healing. 😂
Fym treat you like cheap. That’s only when your hearts with him are not high
And offers massages, and highly appreciates how toned farmwork makes male farmer. lol. Alex is my main save hubby for a good reason =3
Het Alex: Evil creep
Gay Alex: Sweetheart
I think that there is only the second option and the first option is him trying to convince himself he's not the second option
Alex was my first husband, loved the gay dialogue.
Anyways I divorced him because the green screen football room hurt my eyes and ruined my house.
LOL
😂😂
And that’s why people say that Alex+male farmer is the only canon option
There is no canon
@@Xxsorafannot with that attitude
DAMNNNNN
Agreed
@@The_DelicateDrCA said himself there is no canon
Would be nice for him to say "where your bikini at" to the male farmers
Yeah Alex having a whole speech about how he realized he likes guys was literally so cute
As a girl farmer, I welcomed his flirtatious comments. They don't seem creepy to me at all. But different strokes for different folks! I don't mind a guy who's openly attracted to my girl.
Honestly was hoping for Alex to be more of a himbo character when dating the female farmer. Like the farmer character is canonically super strong and (if you mine) very skilled in combat, so it would be cool to see him go from being sexist to admiring her for her strength.
What's better than one strong spouse? Two strong spouses.
And befriend George before romancing Alex!!!
Alex is the kind of high school straight crush that's really cool but i can't date, but at least i can in stardew valley 😁
real
Alex is every gay man crush
Broke: marrying alex when you are a guy to have the better side of his story
Woke: marrying alex while being a guy because George is homophobic
THIS ... this is why I love his character development so much ❤
literally met him on my first day. immediately tried to max his hearts. married him a day after giving him a bouquet through some insane luck 😭😭 didn't even care about the story but looking back he's still probably the best bachelor. CA didn't give his female dialogue justice
I married Alex as a female partner and I still love him, he is the perfect husband with the sweetest dialogues. I need a Alex IRL ❤
Alex: “ayeee where my hug at”
As I told my brother, if I am made to pick between one character to marry, I said I'd go for Elliot, Harvey or Alex
And from the three, I would beeline for Alex
Ironically, he shares name with my boyfriend, it makes stuff confusing when I also watch a streamer named Alex
No offence but apart from Alex, those are the worst bachelor choices in the game 😭 (in my opinion, for some reason I just *really* hate Elliot)
@@HandsomeRileyi respect people who go for other bachelors but im glad im not the only one who has one sided beef with elliot and harvey 😅 ESPECIALLY harvey... i got married to maru and he still said the "i wonder if maru wants sunscreen on her shoulders" line during the luau. oh i was so mad!! kinda hope CA fixed that during the 1.6 update
@@carat_light lol I’m glad I have a club of Harvey/elliot haters! Though in my opinion Alex is only good if you play as a male character! He’s honestly nicer that way!
I mostly go for the bachelorettes though. Haley and abi are my go to’s! I have actually never gone with Maru, how does she act in the marriage/dating playthroughs?
@@HandsomeRiley aww i love haley and abi, it's been a while since i played my save file with maru but she's a sweetheart tbh! underrated spouse. i decided to go for her because my character was basically a pink alien so why not do astronomer scientist x alien. she has a whole arc where she finally proves herself to her dad (because he thinks we're fooling around in their basement or something but shes actually making a robot 😭) and she gives useful stuff like materials or batteries as presents. the only thing that bothers me is that harvey continues to crush on maru even when you're married to her, kinda like clint with emily. she literally says "harvey keeps on trying to talk to me, but all i want is a piece of this roast" like sir! move along please 😅 but yeah she's great
i’m one of the rare female farmer x alex lovers bc i feel like he grows from a sexist jerk to a house husband
YUPPP
Yes! 💕
Also in the cheating cutscene if you’re a girl he’ll get mad at you but if you’re a man he gets sad and says “I thought we had something special…” mlm alex real
elliot make a comment in his 10 heart event that he "didn't know you would live another man" it steals my heart everytime
I know right!?
Wait you're telling me Elliott wasn't already gay???
HUH
@@toolatetothestory hes playersexual, attracted to whatever gender the player is
OMGGG I LOVE ELLIOTT 10 HEART EVENT WITH THE MALE FWRMER 😭😭😭
i picked alex at first because i was kinda sick of the usual popular choices and i was honestly surprised with how wholesome his story becomes!! especially with how his grandfather opens up to you over time. honestly my favorite part was alex being able to heal from his trauma and thanking you for giving him the family he didn’t get to have as a kid. made me cry
I was going to marry him as a girl but he was mean lol
I mean that didn't stop me with dating haley
@@Gingerninja738 Haley is the best 😂
I like the mean ones like Haley. Plus she has amazing development.
@@merlinho0tyeah with haley she’s mean initially but gets better whereas alex just Always has this dudebro attitude to the female farmer even at 8+ hearts it’s so tiring lol but babygirl haley is my dear sunshine girl
@@Gingerninja738probably because haley isnt saying weirdly sexist stuff
I was always so confused why people didn’t like Alex. Then I realised I’ve only ever played as the male farmer lol
Alex darling, the closet is made of glass
He’s actually really sweet towards the female farmer in the end. The rude comments were a mask and when you become his friend, he also opens up to you. And once married spends each day telling you how lucky he is and how much he loves you, helps you on the farm and is productive in his own life. ❤
Though I try to get other partners I always fall for him over again 😂
Ima marry Alex as a female farmer just to spite 💀
very sneaky perfect loop at the end 🤭💯
My friend says Haileys dialogue is different and more deep and emotional with the female farmer.
This game was wild to interact with Alex in my current playthrough. I made my farmer, realized an hour in that, in my waffling over who to make, I accidentally picked female instead of male, and had to spend some time befriending the wizard to access the gender affirming basement. The change in Alex's interaction with my farmer was immediate. The next cutscene I had with Alex was him apologizing for his attitude, so yeah. I know that specific cutscene is the same no matter what gender you pick, but damn does it hit different when you accidentally make a transmasc character 😂
i dont care i love alex as a female farmer, he compliments me everyday unlike seb
it’s just so adorable, and i love kinda of storylines
I love Evelyn and George's dialogue during it especially because they will say something about how they never thought gay marriage was okay until the farmer came along
The average level of human intelligence plumets by 10 iq Points every single year
I honestly still fail to see how everyone views the stereotypical jock personality as canonically gay just because he's just slightly misogynistic. Like I married him but it's weird cause there's no dialogue that specifically makes me feel like he's exclusively or leans into dudes. Get out the BL fanfics lol.
these fujoshi bitches are literally insane 😭
Alex for the boys and Haley for the girls
THE CUT TO THE SHAPPIC HALEY KISS ON BUT🔥🔥
Omg this explains so much. In my play through, I made myself an androgynous male farmer and immediately took a liking to Alex. My friend told me they hated Alex but I didn’t get why until this short. They play as the female farmer. Who knew the their love for money and my love for cookies got us two different scenarios 😂
I once accidentally created a trans farmer. The whole look was female, hair, skirt, name, but i forgot to change the gender. It was only when i talked to Alex that i noticed because he mentions your gender. No other villager does. Well, now Alex has a trans mtf "hubby". Sadly i could not wear a dress at the wedding.
You can change the gender of your farmer at the wizards tower.
After reaching 4 hearts with the Wizard, the basement opens up, letting you access the Shrine of Illusions, where you can change gender, name, and appearance of your character, for 500G.
Then the Valley would refer to them correctly ^^
thats basically a femboy
MALE FARMER AND ALEX HAVE A GREAT STORY AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME FROM CHASING THIS GUY
i giggle whenever i talk to him after marrying him i love that guy
He’s the first person I married and I kept him till I got that file to perfection, I don’t regret it.
"Should only do this" Or maybe I'll marry whatever clump of pixels I want lol
The man has pictures of body builders in his locker and gets nervous if you visit the bathhouse and asks if you went into his locker.
I know nothing about this game nor have i heard of it, but the second i know this has a gay plot line, i went SEARCHING
AND ALSO THE INTERNAL HOMOPHOBIA BC OF HOW HE WAS RAISED- and also once you marry him if you don't have (I think) 6 (or 8 maybe) hearts with George he'll say "how can two men get married? It's unnatural... hmph... I guess I'm just "old fashioned".
Alex is the best friend we all wish we had
I always go with harvey, hes super adorable, gives you the meds that max your hp and energy
NO I STAY WITH BABY GWORL HALEY!
Nope. Still marrying Alex as a girl. He has a good story regardless of gender.
Too busy rooming with Krobus, sorry
….i feel like you missed some Alex cutscenes cause he’s just as sweet and grows as a character when you play as a female
exactly 😭 like he apologizes and realizes what he said was wrong where were all of these ppl during that
playing as a guy also helps recontextualize his misogyny as a closeted boy performing heterosexuality. It makes for a really nice story of self acceptance that you just don't really get playing as a woman.
I played as male and married Alex, his dialogue for his 10 heart event actually hurt me inside!!! It’s the same for Sebastian where they both realize they can Have feelings for guys!
I know some of the girls feel this way too. I think Haley does???
Alex was actually the first one i married, and that was a great story frfr
alex got that internalized homophobia😭
Damn fr
men be like "im fighting demons" and the demon is bisexuality
Idc what his dialogue says if I can I will even as a female farmer lol
That’s why he’s my one and only. ❤️
WHERE MY HUG AT MAMAS😭😭😭
"I wish there were more girls in the valley" DO YOU??
that's pretty accurate of some guys, though. a misogynistic guy won't necessarily show he's a misogynist to other guys until there's a girl around for him to disrespect.
Or hes gay and is angry because hes gay but dosent accept hes gay so he tries to hard to be straight and in the end is only toxik?
So, you’re saying all the characters are bisexual??
yes
Yes, you can marry all characters regardless of ur gender
I mean they are bisexual to us because we know that they are datable regardless of the gender we use. But in a specific save they can be just straight, gay or bisexual, since you only have confirmation that they are into your gender. For example with Leah, if you play as a girl she will only hint towards liking girls, even tho she could still be bi. Abigail, Sebastian and Alex on the other hand have dialogues where they mention that they never felt that way towards the same gender before, so if u are playing as the opposite gender u can just assume that they are straight since in that save file they wouldn’t have fell in love with the same gender farmer.
bisexual valley 💅
@@drouziczhonestly all games that have a dating feature for both genders should be bi. Don't limit the gender of who i can date if they're all not real anyways!
closted gay cause they way he was acting overly heterosexual
No matter what gender you are when you play, Alex seems tough at first because he hides his traumas, he wants to appear strong, a real man, but when he starts to get closer to the farmer he realizes that feelings and sincerity are not a weakness. It's just closed in its shell, inside it's very sweet with both the female farmer and the male farmer.
I prefer Alex because I feel the need to help heal the boys' wounds and because I love his grandparents.
Shes just telling us to be gay at this point
This isn’t true. 😂 No offense. His story is the exact same regardless of your gender. He slowly opens up about his trauma with both genders. And becomes very sweet.
Ngl expected him to ask "where the jockstrap at"
I remember sitting with my bf explaining why Alex is the best husband, going through each bachelor and what not and he just responded “just say you think Alex is hot babe, I can take it”