Hi guys, my 72 year old father has been buying some jmlab / focal speaker over the last 40 years after trying other local popular brands in france, ( cabasse, triangle...) and i grew up with them. I could'nt think of buying anything else after listening to several models we have owned. I find their warms clear sound unique, and we always associated them with onkyo (rip in 2022) or denon amplifiers. They are very famous here because they also build the drivers, and the r&d in the membran / material is fascinating. I heard they invented a good few tweeter design that made them famous for their so light and krispy signature. For some of you fan of acoustic / southern / texas country music, it's a must try!!!
Extremely bright and extremely analytical speakers. I had the Sopras for 4 years and luckily I sold them. I simply couldn’t stand them anymore as my ears kept bleeding.
I have some focal speakers as well. They're overly bright and lack depth, but they have outstanding detail and texture, so I just pair them with another speaker and tune the tweeters down
Just enclosure, painting, crossover, wiring and putting the drivers and it's ready. Still its awful they didn't showed anything. There isn't anything secret there
Sorry but that was painful to watch. Nothing new and informative. Just a brand promotion. Good video production that's what I'd give you and that's what Focal's paid for.
Sooooo it’s just one 10 min long commercial, don’t get me wrong great speakers (I am sure they are for that ridiculous price) But this was hardly informative
Growing up my favorite speakers were the klipsch horns. 58 years later my favorite is still the klipsch horns. For those who want clean efficient pure sound. Those who want to listen to rock, opera, Liberace on piano, Pavarotti or hauser on cello the klipsch horns preform spectacular. Yes they're big. Yes they look out dated. Yes they take up room. Yes they preform in a corner. But your ears are never Pierced or delayed. It's like you are in lock step with a marching band hearing ever pure note. Those who hate the horns are those who have Inferior equipment or a small room. In the 1970s I listened to my first pair of horns playing music off of a reel to reel. I soon noticed everywhere I went whether it was a movie theater or church or party there was klipsch speakers. With all the technology today focal is the leader in sound and right there with klipsch. And coming from a hard critic like me that's a high compliment. Everyone can try to put lip stick on a pig to impress someone with its looks and add a huge price tag. But when you close your eyes and listen that's when you know the difference. Thanks for a great channel.
Ah its called Foo caal instead of focal(vocal with a f) ! So I have Focal Aria 926 for my 20 by 12 media room.. these sound awesome! listening to some "dirty blues" and the piano sounded like it was right there! after the 24 hour break in period I am hope they don't draw so much power..I only have 100 watts a channel...they do come alive at about 70 db ...
Speaker wires are fused with oil extracted from exotic python snakes from the depths of African jungles, ultimately cancelling out any interferences that causes unwanted noise
The one thing that I don't like about most Focal speakers. Is that they don't do bass very well. Even with powerful amplifiers. I kinda understand why they do that. But it does take away from the full range listening presentation.
@LOLO / VAL 10k usd speakers should get that low. Tannoy xt8f gets to 35hz and costs 1.5k. Of course it plays worse but focal has worse bass than competition in the same price ranges
If you liked these MDF board speakers...Take a look at YG acoustics the cabinets are all CNC machined t6 aluminum and so is the driver! Made ion the USA in Colorado. I bought a pair.
Penultimate means second from the top, or last but one. At 4:14, when you say that the Grande Utopias are "the penultimate in high-end audio"... what would you say the ULTIMATE is? Or did you use the wrong word?
Thank you for all the useful information you always provide us. I have a question I hope to answer which is: what kind of microphone are you using? Would you please give us a link to buy. Thank you Naser
I don't say this often but.. this is a French product that I simply must try out. Really looking forward to the headphone reviews after seeing this video!
I'm sorry but $230K speakers made of MDF or HDF just doesn't seem right to me. MDF & HDF are essentially different forms of particle board! For an MSRP of $230K I would at least expect the speaker enclosures to use advanced hi tech materials used by other hi end speaker manufacturers, (Wilson, Vandersteen, YG, Magico, Rockport, etc.)
Useless. mdf is just perfect for the sound management. Focal uses extremes things were they have a sense, not because they are fancy or as marketing argument.
Hand cnc made😜. They’re great speakers. A bit of a click bait video, but there was some footage. I’m a little surprised they paint right on the mdf without a fiberglass or composite overlay. I wonder if I could copy them. That would be like an old friend of mine that kept refilling his crystal champagne bottle with cheap crap to impress girls. That’s about as close as I’d get to copying them, just the case😳
230K for a pair of speakers ??!!!!!!. what a joke . i'm very sure that you can buy an entire system from different Brands: Speakers. Amp. Pre-Amp. CD player. Record Player. Streamer. DAC. Cables. all that for a lot less than 230K... talking about rip off !!.
I kept blowing up my rear speakers with my audiophile-grade auto sound system even though I would make sure the speakers were rated to take the power. Most speakers would last a week or two. The two Focals I tried (which were the most expensive pair I tried) blew up just as I turned the volume past the mid-point. They are over-rated speakers. I will never buy again.
Hi guys, my 72 year old father has been buying some jmlab / focal speaker over the last 40 years after trying other local popular brands in france, ( cabasse, triangle...) and i grew up with them. I could'nt think of buying anything else after listening to several models we have owned. I find their warms clear sound unique, and we always associated them with onkyo (rip in 2022) or denon amplifiers. They are very famous here because they also build the drivers, and the r&d in the membran / material is fascinating. I heard they invented a good few tweeter design that made them famous for their so light and krispy signature. For some of you fan of acoustic / southern / texas country music, it's a must try!!!
probably should look up the definition of penultimate.... 4:14
yes meaning less than ultimate
Extremely bright and extremely analytical speakers. I had the Sopras for 4 years and luckily I sold them. I simply couldn’t stand them anymore as my ears kept bleeding.
I have some focal speakers as well. They're overly bright and lack depth, but they have outstanding detail and texture, so I just pair them with another speaker and tune the tweeters down
dam no cap
Bought the Solo6 Be 40th Anniversary Edition studio monitors this year. Best audio purchase (so far) of my lifetime!
I love my Focal speakers. 4K well spent!
Aria floorstanders ?
Dimitri B. My guess is the Aria 936
See how Focal's insane $230k speakers are made during our factory tour, unfortunately we arent allowed to show you.
Thas nothing... Magico M9 speaker $750,000...
Just enclosure, painting, crossover, wiring and putting the drivers and it's ready. Still its awful they didn't showed anything. There isn't anything secret there
The penultimate video about Focal speakers.
Got their speakers in the car and some 701s and they sound great!!!
Wilson Audio should take note of how to make ultra high-end audio not look horrendous.
How can they justify the price of $230k for a relatively simply engineered product compared to a luxury car of similar price?Taking the piss or what!
it's a meme brand, the products are not worth1% of that
I am now torn between purchasing these speakers or a House.
Absolutely wonderful speakers from what I can tell this company is the best I've seen absolutely beautiful speakers
Sorry but that was painful to watch. Nothing new and informative. Just a brand promotion. Good video production that's what I'd give you and that's what Focal's paid for.
Sooooo it’s just one 10 min long commercial, don’t get me wrong great speakers (I am sure they are for that ridiculous price)
But this was hardly informative
Growing up my favorite speakers were the klipsch horns. 58 years later my favorite is still the klipsch horns.
For those who want clean efficient pure sound. Those who want to listen to rock, opera, Liberace on piano, Pavarotti or hauser on cello the klipsch horns preform spectacular. Yes they're big. Yes they look out dated. Yes they take up room. Yes they preform in a corner. But your ears are never Pierced or delayed. It's like you are in lock step with a marching band hearing ever pure note.
Those who hate the horns are those who have Inferior equipment or a small room.
In the 1970s I listened to my first pair of horns playing music off of a reel to reel. I soon noticed everywhere I went whether it was a movie theater or church or party there was klipsch speakers. With all the technology today focal is the leader in sound and right there with klipsch. And coming from a hard critic like me that's a high compliment.
Everyone can try to put lip stick on a pig to impress someone with its looks and add a huge price tag. But when you close your eyes and listen that's when you know the difference. Thanks for a great channel.
I have their Mezzo Utopia speakers (aka JM Labs). Bought them in 2000 and I think they still hold their own against new models.
Focal one of the sound lords.
Ah its called Foo caal instead of focal(vocal with a f) ! So I have Focal Aria 926 for my 20 by 12 media room.. these sound awesome! listening to some "dirty blues" and the piano sounded like it was right there! after the 24 hour break in period I am hope they don't draw so much power..I only have 100 watts a channel...they do come alive at about 70 db ...
4:16 Why are the grand utopias the penultimate in hifi audio? They are not the ultimate? Do you know what penultimate means?
I'm going to go with no, he doesn't know what it means.
@@caldrumr LOL... I concur.
Truly the second best in hi-fi.
@@Filtersloth LMAOOOO
Speaker wires are fused with oil extracted from exotic python snakes from the depths of African jungles, ultimately cancelling out any interferences that causes unwanted noise
someone add a "focal" counter
that mic you are using is really good.
The one thing that I don't like about most Focal speakers. Is that they don't do bass very well. Even with powerful amplifiers. I kinda understand why they do that. But it does take away from the full range listening presentation.
@FUCK SHIT You do realize that the person you said that too is dead now.
@FUCK SHIT I can see from your handle, you are permanently in a state of rage.
@FUCK SHIT That's the fellow, let all out. You will feel much better for it. lol.
@LOLO / VAL 10k usd speakers should get that low. Tannoy xt8f gets to 35hz and costs 1.5k. Of course it plays worse but focal has worse bass than competition in the same price ranges
Penultimate? What'd the ultimate be?
A massless point source radiating sounds in 360 degrees!
the Grand Utopias are the "Penultimate in hi-fi audio"??? What are they second -to- last to exactly?
If you liked these MDF board speakers...Take a look at YG acoustics the cabinets are all CNC machined t6 aluminum and so is the driver! Made ion the USA in Colorado. I bought a pair.
Yeah.. high resolution cold sounding piece of shite!
@@Music_time82 MBF is one of the best sound deadening materials to manufacture speakers out of. The cost is insane regardless of the labour costs.
LOLOL Colorado, America's biggest Potheads and losers@@Music_time82
Penultimate means second from the top, or last but one. At 4:14, when you say that the Grande Utopias are "the penultimate in high-end audio"... what would you say the ULTIMATE is? Or did you use the wrong word?
Penultimate means second last
please disable auto focus when filming
You are loosing Focal(s) through out the video. Please use fixed focus on your camera.
My focals sound fantastic
Thank you for all the useful information you always provide us.
I have a question I hope to answer which is: what kind of microphone are you using? Would you please give us a link to buy. Thank you
Naser
Disappointingly lacking in depth.
Also you described their speaker as the "penultimate" ... so what is the ultimate?
Still i would prefer the Dali Kore above this one and is only 80K a piece
"See how Focal's insane $230k speakers are made during our factory tour" proceeds to not show it, WTF!
So how are they made?
I don't say this often but.. this is a French product that I simply must try out. Really looking forward to the headphone reviews after seeing this video!
So they still use cheap mdf to make a 240k speaker.... mind blowing 🥱
same like Hermes bag just leather
That's like saying ferrari still use aluminium alloy for their engine blocks so they must be rubbish
Perfect bro
Excellent video. Just subscribed to your channel. Cheers!
Good speakers. But I have heard audio note and marten design speakers for 1/10 and 1/3 of the price sounding a bit to a lot better.
i sure do APPRECIATE the highest quality of these speakers. but for the life of me. who pays 230K for a pair of speakers?????!!!!!!!!!!!. it's insane.
I'm sorry but $230K speakers made of MDF or HDF just doesn't seem right to me. MDF & HDF are essentially different forms of particle board! For an MSRP of $230K I would at least expect the speaker enclosures to use advanced hi tech materials used by other hi end speaker manufacturers, (Wilson, Vandersteen, YG, Magico, Rockport, etc.)
Agreed.
Useless. mdf is just perfect for the sound management. Focal uses extremes things were they have a sense, not because they are fancy or as marketing argument.
Elas são perfeitas me de papai
Hand cnc made😜. They’re great speakers. A bit of a click bait video, but there was some footage. I’m a little surprised they paint right on the mdf without a fiberglass or composite overlay. I wonder if I could copy them. That would be like an old friend of mine that kept refilling his crystal champagne bottle with cheap crap to impress girls. That’s about as close as I’d get to copying them, just the case😳
MBF is about the cheapest wood there is. Compressed recycled bog roll, nice!!
$230,000 dollars? I could get some dental work done for that.
lol you could get a lot of things for that
Dental work is close from free in France, that's why speakers are expensives
230 000 and I have to look at screws holding there drivers in 🥴rip off
I liked the looks of these but, had to go with klipsch forte 3 due to sound dynamics.
I read that you know your Hifi equipment✌🏾2 pairs
If you like the lack of low end than yah klipsch is great. I always liked them with a small sub or two
Most good music played with these speakers was recorded with old studio gear from back the days so I don‘t get the point.
i know its great speakers
LoL definitly not work 300k
Meh if they were nicer looking I’d look into buying them but I’ll pass
Misleading title...no coverage of how the speakers are made...shame on you...
;lots of sibilance on that mic, why do videos always have horrible audio, when talking about audio
230K for a pair of speakers ??!!!!!!. what a joke .
i'm very sure that you can buy an entire system from different Brands: Speakers. Amp. Pre-Amp. CD player. Record Player. Streamer. DAC. Cables. all that for a lot less than 230K... talking about rip off !!.
It’s pronounced Faux-Kal
Legacy WHISPERS $20,000, blew away a $50,000 Focal, on the same amplifiers
One of the most overpriced brands out there. There are a ton of other options available out there just as good if not better for much less money.
I'll opt for Bowers & Wilkins 801 D4 anytime....
not for the commun audio citizen :)
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Rip off. Legacy Audio smokes them
@Anthony Martino Absolutely.
@Anthony Martino I would love to own the Whispers. Never heard anything more real in my life.
Who?
Thats a pair of the ugliest speakers I have seen in my life.
🤢🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
I kept blowing up my rear speakers with my audiophile-grade auto sound system even though I would make sure the speakers were rated to take the power. Most speakers would last a week or two. The two Focals I tried (which were the most expensive pair I tried) blew up just as I turned the volume past the mid-point. They are over-rated speakers. I will never buy again.
Sounds like your amplifier is the problem
Zero chance it is the speakers fault, you have a broken or garbage amp.
Lol 😂 you blame speakers for your own amplitude abuse. You need a couple of pa speakers in your car . Boom boxes
It appears to me you know nothing about amplification nor speakers. I noticed how you never mentioned what “audiophile-grade equipment” you have
Doesn't come close to Wilson Audio.. AMERICAN MADE!
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