Good eye, I didnt notice that. Ash staffs are strong, but I think theyre more practical for training and sparring than actually trying to cut off a tree limb. haha its just physics, the thicker limb will trump any wooden staff less thick than it, its also live wood which is stronger lol I wanna see him lathe a staff out of that tree and then use it to smash itsself lol :P
Thank you for conducting this experiement.. Losing 2 staffs in the process. How do you reckon an aluminium staff would fair against a sword in a real fight scenario?
Next one i suggest.....1 1/4" wooden dowells! Hickory, pine, maple whatever, id be curious to see different staffs of the same construction but different materials. Id also like to see a flex test! Come on its been three years lol
Could you try ash vs oak vs hickory vs white wax wood? The white wax wood should be the natural, thicker Southern cudgel type (as opposed to the sanded, thinner Wushu type); since it is a sapling, it will be naturally tapered, but the other staves should, ideally, be non-tapered. Thanks.
I’m sorry but that ash was some bs. I’m a carpenter and there’s no way a well made ash staff with grain running end to end would perform like that. Here in Germany the police batons are still made of ash to this day. That thing snapped like it was rotten...
Great video thanks. Test is not fair as that tree is much tuffet. You should have had three guys you could smash the staffs over their heads so we would have a more accurate real wold test. I know a few guys I can volunteer for the next round of testing. My staff is made from high impact American hickory but they still do not suggest you hit trees with it but I know it would do better then the ash staff.
I made one similar to what your friend made as an experiment. it to split, I think the multiple pieces of wood just make it more flexible and nothing else. also, ash is a weak wood when compared to oak and hickory
look at 00:32 that ash bo is already broken. It never would have broke on one swing I bet. You can clearly see that it is broken. The four piece one may have held if the ends were banded.
I've been learning about Bo staff for 3 years now watching your video. It is super impressive that I have developed my skills just by watching you. And you should use a white wax staff, it is known as the best material for Martial art in some Asian Country. -love from Vietnam 🇻🇳 ❤
Dear Master Michael, I trained Judo, Ashihara and Enshin. I started using a cane after suffering a neurological illness. I realized how necessary and important the tactical and defensive bo and cane are. My job is to shape and harden Ultara High Strength Steels and aviation materials. Based on my 20 years of experience, I can say: The best, cheap and robust material for the purpose you use in this video is 22MNb 5 or 38MNb5 hardened boron steel tubes. Diameter: 25mm x Wall thickness 1.8mm 22MNb5 2000mm length.
I've been making mine out of American Hophornbeam for a while now. Very strong, flexible enough not to dent or hurt your hands, durable enough not to snap. If it helps you any, american hophornbeam is much more durable than the 3 bo's in this vid. I smack against logs like the one you did all the time with it and it never takes even the most marginal damage. I had a thin one that only ended up cracking slightly from slamming it against the edge of a board. At least I know not to buy tapered ash though damn. Have you tested any white wax or oak staffs in a similar way?
In my case, it's the local wood that's been branded with the nickname, "Ironwood". In different places though, it seems like different wood species pick up that nickname. Regardless, I'm just lucky to live near some forest that's been growing it. I can't use the land anymore though, which is why I'm on youtube looking for info about what the sticks are like that I can buy online. :)
Well, it does not have the level of power, if you are considering using the equation of force x velocity, as some strikes; but I think a thrust is the most disruptive and useful attack in the majority of situations. Then, following up with a powerful descending angle strike or horizontal line.
Dude use hickory. Its a bit heavier than ash but thats not always a bad thing. I dont think ur gonna break a hickory staff its a very strong wood but still maintains its elasticity. Plus dude, that ash staff was practically split im two already, not very fair to the ash
Try www.bellforestproducts.com supper good website they tell you by species many hardwoods they supply----they specialize in dowels 1/4 inch to 3 inch diameters even in long lengths. My opinion --- Brazilian Ipe a cross interlocked grain nothing will break---best in 1" or 1&1/8th inch diameter. Never be on the receiving end of a Ipe staff weapon(oak is 40lbs a cubic foot but Ipe is 65/70lbs c/ft.).
Maybe use the fallen tree for a new staff seems pretty durable.
LOL! Good point.
The English built thier ships from the the Oak tree
@@saltydegen and staffs
great craigs think alike, i was goint to say that haha
You have to kill it, or it doesnèt count.
Ash is a very hard and strong wood. That's why baseball bats are made of ash. The 1st bo was either already broken or the grain was poorly chosen
Ash staff was already broken in some places anyway, look under his left hand while he uses it
I noticed that too lol
Good eye, I didnt notice that. Ash staffs are strong, but I think theyre more practical for training and sparring than actually trying to cut off a tree limb. haha its just physics, the thicker limb will trump any wooden staff less thick than it, its also live wood which is stronger lol I wanna see him lathe a staff out of that tree and then use it to smash itsself lol :P
Polypropylen would be interesting ,too
Thanks for making that test. We could find out the durability of those staffs
Thank you for conducting this experiement.. Losing 2 staffs in the process.
How do you reckon an aluminium staff would fair against a sword in a real fight scenario?
Bruh the first one already had a crack on it.
Next one i suggest.....1 1/4" wooden dowells! Hickory, pine, maple whatever, id be curious to see different staffs of the same construction but different materials. Id also like to see a flex test! Come on its been three years lol
Could you try ash vs oak vs hickory vs white wax wood? The white wax wood should be the natural, thicker Southern cudgel type (as opposed to the sanded, thinner Wushu type); since it is a sapling, it will be naturally tapered, but the other staves should, ideally, be non-tapered. Thanks.
I love when staffs arent tapered, and one end is fatter because its handmade.....those are some good whackin sticks lol
Hickory is a GREAT wood for this, especially Appalachian if you can get it. Makes for great bokken too.
Love how he flips the ash staff to hold the part thats already split clean in half to hit the part thats slightly less cracked already lol
I’m sorry but that ash was some bs. I’m a carpenter and there’s no way a well made ash staff with grain running end to end would perform like that. Here in Germany the police batons are still made of ash to this day.
That thing snapped like it was rotten...
And if you look it was cracked before he used it
Did anyone else notice at 0:49 that the ash staff already had a crack in it?
Lmfao
Cool video! Aluminium is pretty strong, but it bends. Please, next time, try a bamboo staff, if you can.
I'll keep that in mind, thanks for watching!
Try Rattan, bamboo will shater
@@bitbot_x2567 Exactly. There's a reason a lot of old school police units used rattan instead of bamboo.
What about 1.25 diameter rattan ?
... Like... you don't need a physics diploma to know that the thin hard stick will break against the THICK hard stick...
I've got the steel one from KarateMart
Great video thanks. Test is not fair as that tree is much tuffet. You should have had three guys you could smash the staffs over their heads so we would have a more accurate real wold test. I know a few guys I can volunteer for the next round of testing. My staff is made from high impact American hickory but they still do not suggest you hit trees with it but I know it would do better then the ash staff.
I have a grade 9 solid titanium cane.
How about a Japanese Red Oak Staff
guys what is the best wooden bo staff against breaking? just strong againsr breaking nothing else
can anyone answer pls?
I made one similar to what your friend made as an experiment. it to split, I think the multiple pieces of wood just make it more flexible and nothing else. also, ash is a weak wood when compared to oak and hickory
look at 00:32 that ash bo is already broken. It never would have broke on one swing I bet. You can clearly see that it is broken. The four piece one may have held if the ends were banded.
I've been learning about Bo staff for 3 years now watching your video. It is super impressive that I have developed my skills just by watching you.
And you should use a white wax staff, it is known as the best material for Martial art in some Asian Country.
-love from Vietnam 🇻🇳 ❤
Dear Master Michael, I trained Judo, Ashihara and Enshin. I started using a cane after suffering a neurological illness. I realized how necessary and important the tactical and defensive bo and cane are. My job is to shape and harden Ultara High Strength Steels and aviation materials. Based on my 20 years of experience, I can say: The best, cheap and robust material for the purpose you use in this video is 22MNb 5 or 38MNb5 hardened boron steel tubes. Diameter: 25mm x Wall thickness 1.8mm 22MNb5 2000mm length.
That's why Male bamboo staff has been traditionally used. Like bamboo cane and rattan..
Nice, thank you!
Haha R. I. P the Ash bo and your friends bo.. I had a feeling that three piece one would break fer sure
ey. just wanted to thank you for breaking your fresh and custom staffs for us ^^"
I've been making mine out of American Hophornbeam for a while now. Very strong, flexible enough not to dent or hurt your hands, durable enough not to snap.
If it helps you any, american hophornbeam is much more durable than the 3 bo's in this vid. I smack against logs like the one you did all the time with it and it never takes even the most marginal damage. I had a thin one that only ended up cracking slightly from slamming it against the edge of a board.
At least I know not to buy tapered ash though damn.
Have you tested any white wax or oak staffs in a similar way?
I had never even heard of American Hophornbeam, that is interesting. No, I have never tried a white wax or oak staff like this, but I will.
In my case, it's the local wood that's been branded with the nickname, "Ironwood". In different places though, it seems like different wood species pick up that nickname.
Regardless, I'm just lucky to live near some forest that's been growing it. I can't use the land anymore though, which is why I'm on youtube looking for info about what the sticks are like that I can buy online. :)
Solid fiberglass. I promise, you will not break it
Try rattan next. For sure.
hello what's in your opinion most powerful attack we can do with bo?
Well, it does not have the level of power, if you are considering using the equation of force x velocity, as some strikes; but I think a thrust is the most disruptive and useful attack in the majority of situations. Then, following up with a powerful descending angle strike or horizontal line.
thank you
use the steel staff
Dude use hickory. Its a bit heavier than ash but thats not always a bad thing. I dont think ur gonna break a hickory staff its a very strong wood but still maintains its elasticity. Plus dude, that ash staff was practically split im two already, not very fair to the ash
the ash was already cracked.
The one thing of value I learned from this video is not to take martial arts advice from a guy with arms thinner than their staff.
I wonder how a rattan staff would do.
This is why Donatello needs a different weapon or a better staff
Try a piece of PVC pipe. Dirty cheap and extremely hard to break.
ruclips.net/video/rOOAwAw-WIU/видео.html They are a hit or miss, but a hammer test should be done before using it.
My bo is chinese red oak -
use white wax wood
Try www.bellforestproducts.com supper good website they tell you by species many hardwoods they supply----they specialize in dowels 1/4 inch to 3 inch diameters even in long lengths. My opinion --- Brazilian Ipe a cross interlocked grain nothing will break---best in 1" or 1&1/8th inch diameter. Never be on the receiving end of a Ipe staff weapon(oak is 40lbs a cubic foot but Ipe is 65/70lbs c/ft.).
Now make one out of titanium
Cool!
Essayez un bâton de hockey.
I traded my staff in for a Glock
Did they give you change ?
The main advantage a staff has over a Glock is that a staff is legal in many places that a Glock isn't.
Rottan staff must be the strongest.
Use a rattan
thanks for this. i had my suspicions about ash, now confirmed
cumaru
Buy Hickory.
Your using like the weakest staffs ever made