It's not about the boat at all, it's about the crew your sharing your life with, sharing the laughter, sharing the food, sharing the adventure, and in the end sharing the tears.... Everyone has a special crew, it might not just be on a boat.
@@williamkinn5959 it's the boat, the Caribbean warmth, water, sun, good food, good drinks, conversations, exploring those destinations, making friends, RUclips income for those that crew.
That's right, With all the maintenance on your boat you will miss a lot of time with your family. Anytime your out on your boat you will be missing time with your family.
great review, i sailed for 20yrs, i switched to motor yacht, and i love it. set up you boat for full time solar. and a high capasity water maker 50 gal/hr
Great topic Bobby. The best thing about boating is all the different options out there for folks to enjoy. Be safe and keep enjoying life to its fullest. I love seeing that!
I started watching your channel because of the exotic destinations and sail boat challenges. However, I am a trailerable power boater having traveled Key West to Montreal and many lakes and rivers on the east coast since 2000. It has been interesting to see you and your crew make the transition to motor yacht. For me at age 62, I am trying to decide between trailerable coupe and motoryacht. Many thanks to you and your crew! Cheers!
I like the move to a powerboat for now. When you move to an ocean crossing on a sailboat put this boat in management so you can come back to it. We will watch whatever you do.
To me when you get on a sailboat you are where you want to be.A powerboat you think of going to your destination.The best boat is the one you are happy with.
You have cured me from living perpetually on the sea in my retirement. I will instead live through you vicariously and save my money for the occasional week or two on the water.
Hey bobby I was one of the last people to see Nauti dogs sailing, you passed me sailing south in the Chesapeake and we anchored in the same anchorage for the night before you went around cape Hatteras! I remember you saying you were headed for central America, now I'm thinking about selling my sailboat for a trawler or motor yacht. You are so right about the entry price, much more. This has defiantly helped clear up some questions I've had! thank you and keep on inspiring us!
Very honest review Bobby, it’s great to hear you haven’t got a blinkered view of being on the water. Each to his own as they say, horses for courses and all that. I totally agree when you get older (70’s +) a sailing yacht on open ocean would be hard going plus the lack of comfort compared to a motor yacht. Enjoy your time on the water whatever you choose but first and foremost stay safe.
I love your channel... Sailing, Burning man, Now stink boating.... All well edited and fun interesting and uplifting. You are a great narrator and story teller + Mechanic, jerry rigger and babe magnet!
Thanks! Yes, I was having trouble with this. I learning how to sail. Thru friends, Im not going long distances. I just want to go up and down the cost of Cali. this will be my first boat. At some point when I get used to the Ocean I will go longer distances. I was looking to buy a Sail boat. Figure it was cheaper for Diesel but as you said. Im not really going that far. I rather have the room. So me and my girl can have friends over and take them for sunset dinners etc... Do this for a year or 2 than when I get good at sailing do a longer trips. I ll be part time on my boat. Im now heavy leaning on power boat.
Dare you to count the "You know", "like", "I mean", and "you know what I mean" (s)..... Sorry....had to chuckle....most people have no idea how hard it is to record anything. You do a very good job of something very hard to do.
I’m a fan of your channel but the “you knows, I mean & likes” were so distracting that I had to stop after about 12 mins. IMHO one of the biggest differences between a monohull & a motor cruiser is the safety in bad weather. If you get caught out in storm weather in a monohull, lower the sails, batten down the hatches & even if she rolls over you should survive. In a power cruiser, if she rolls you are going to sink. This is also assuming that the motor has failed or has issues. The sea keeping properties of “gin palaces” at sea when not underway or on the plane are in my opinion very unpleasant. Keep up the good work!
that's what I like about your attitude to boating (sailing boat person writing)...you always come back to "go out and do it and get some experience"...nothing beats that advice.
Good Video. I watch sailing EP's from others. What I don't like is the Leaning/Keiling all the time, rough waves to go along with it. But,. it is fun to watch others and sometimes I think there crazy. I have a Motor Yacht with all the luxuries as a home, presently converting to Solar as well. This saves fuel and you don't have the noise or vibration from Generator.
Great podcast Bobby I've been watching for a while now and when you changed boats i got excited .I like to see the different aspects of the boating world. And cant wait to see your new cat in a yr. Safe travels bud!!
Hey Bobby, not sure you read these reviews or not but thought I would toss in my 2 cents (have not watched yet, will later :). Just based on the title, They are both great for different reasons. So here it goes, for your channel, right now, just my humble opinion (and I've watched for a couple three years now), your new power boat by far I'm finding perfect. It seems your crew is enjoying very much as well. Obviously I'd have to write pages to justify pro's and con's, so to keep it short...power baby
As you say there are pros and cons to both, so it really depends on YOU, your needs and your plans for what you want. If I were to chose right now at the age of 62 - it would be some sort of a trawler type. Space, comfort, legs and general economy, but I have sailed smaller boats 27-35 feet types for shorter periods of time in my much younger days and that was great. Still with you after your switch to "the dark side" and that is in my mind not so dark - keep it up .
Sailing: The art of getting wet and becoming ill while slowly going nowhere at great expense. Never done screwing around with it. Always trimming something or furling something. Power is the way to go. More speed, less time on the boat.Been there, done that. We both lived in a 465 knot world for a good part of our lives. I’m retired now, too, for similar reasons. Safe travels, Bobby.
I'm doing pseo rn to get a degree for a position with a starting salary of 100k and a boat to go through lakes and the mighty Mississippi along with the gulf is the first thing I wanna do
Great video, fantastic to get an honest comparison from someone with experience of both. I subscribed to Sailing Doodles originally when you were on your sailboat, which is what interested me. My initial reaction for when you switched to motor boating was a little disheartened, as I thought that maybe it would not be for me anymore, and your channel had been one of my favorites. But I figured I'd give it a chance, as part of the reason I subscribed in the first place was due to your personality, seeing the lifestyle, the fun guests joining you and the production value. Turns out that I still have fun watching your videos as they continue to offer all of the above (and I've even joined the Doodles Podcast since then on top), and its actually intriguing to see the difference. Particularly seeing the comparison between the two as you came from a sailing beginning. Like life, all things change. Not necessarily better or worse, just different. Keep up the great work, enjoy the life and look forward to possibly seeing that catamaran in a year or two!
im hoping in a couple years i can find a 30-ish foot defever or grand banks type of boat and cruise around the BC coast. Itll be like my holiday trailer where the most expensive part is getting to where youre going then stay there for a week or two.
I have been watching about 8 different sailing channels. I love the community and social aspect of it. But, at 64 I don't see me sailing . So, the regional aspect of the Bahamas and Caribbean are awesome for me to do on a power boat. I have been on big lakes and rivers all my life and have always had a boat. Plus I do ALL my own mechanic work ,right down to rebuilding engines. So power boat to the Bahamas is it for me.
Hi Bobby, Good to get your perspective since you have experience on both. The motor yacht was a definite choice for me because of the comfort and ease of going point to point. My Sirena 58 is a semi-displacemet Hull design so I get the best of both worlds. I can go over 900 NM at 8-10 kts. or if I want to push it to 25 kts. still with a range of over 300 NM. I can't cross the Pacific, but plan on shipping it from Martinique to Tahiti. From there I can continue my travels throughout French Polynesia, Australia, New Zealand and Asia. Hope to see you out on the water. Paul
If you want to cross oceans and island hop get a sail boat. If you just want to island hop and waste little time getting there go motor. Either way its not cheap. Great vid Bobby.
A company designed a inflatable sail for motor yachts. They will turn your motor yacht into a sailboat. They are anchored to the bow by a winch that raises the sail to 400-500 feet and it has auto pilot built-in.
if your smart enough to learn to sail its wonderful ,just the thought of wind power is fascinating. but its dangerous if your not experienced, especially off shore in questionable weather.
Losing an engine is far more common though. And for your backup to be the exact same model with identical maintenance and running hours, running on the same fuel as the motor that just failed is not ideal.
Many years later and you've recently posted a video on a hybrid cat you ordered. It seems like the RUclips cruisers (who is willing to sail) default is to try trawlers and express cruisers, and finally put the money down on a catamaran.
Most boats have no air-conditioning and are not intended for you to live aboard. You have to get north of a half million dollars before you start getting into live aboards with air conditioning ad real beds with real mattresses. Unless you are waterskiing or tubing you don't need the power of a powerboat. A small engine in a sailboat is all you need.
I love the idea of sailing but my Back says no, so I have been looking at power catamarans and then I did some more research and found solar power catamaran, that the way I will be going.
This just came up on my feed so don't blame me for being late. I find there are two different thought process when it comes to boats, if you are young and still athletic they go for a sailboat. Older retired folks like the idea of turning on a motor and going. If you own a sailboat you will be going up the mast and it is a deal breaker for me now. And my experience in the Sea of Cortez was that even sailboats would wait till the wind had gone down to leave, then put on the motor because they are going to slow. My question is, why do power boats usually have such poor anchor gear? Bruce, CQR, or Danforth are just not cutting it to keep you safe. A rocna Vulcan would be a better choice, but I think powerboats spend most of the time at the marina so anchor gear doesn't matter. And lastly Bobby, you really need to take some diction lessons. If you were slapped every time you say "you know" you would soon stop. Makes you sound like a rube.
The actual travel, you need to do more physical work on a sailboat, with the constant vigilance for making those adjustments to keep her under control. On a power boat, the travel is much more relaxing time. Maintenance costs work out about the same. Even with your motor yacht style, you can reduce your fuel burn by reducing your speed, try running at 5-6 knots for your next long run and see the difference in burn. One power boat style to consider is the motor sailor, Nordhavn makes one though the more commonly known is the Diesel Duck and diesel Swan.
MOTOR YACHTING IS THE TOP SHELF WAY TO GO... OF THE FLEET OF BOATS ON THE OCEAN , IT IS A CRUISE SHIP OR PRIVATE MOTOR YACHT THAT YIELDS THE MOST FUN PER BUCK SPENT !!! GREAT ENTERTAINMENT BOBBY !!! THE BEST ENTERTAINMENT CHANNEL ON THE SEAS ON RUclips !!! ☆☆☆☆☆☆☆
If you an afford a cat then it is great for comfort, no one can dispute that. The biggest issues with cats is the slapping on the bottom of the bridge deck, which many modern cats have minimised quite well. Check out the channel, Sailing Aequus, they have a brand new 59 foot Bavaria and it is super nice, can even single hand sail with ease. New Amel 60 are also amazing but these will cost over 500k new easy. More like 900k-1 million, once you spec it out properly. You know this from your boat tours you used to do, when lockdown non sense stops are you going to go back to the boat shows and do more tours, always like your tours, super relaxed and from a reasonable perspective.
Best of both worlds...Power Cat...specifically, Leopard 53...dream boat. Panama to Marquesas with maybe a two hundred extra gallons in an auxiliary tank at around 7 knots.
Good balanced points. For sure if money is no object just drop into a big power-cruiser or sailing cat but most of us should just go out and try something - maybe a charter first. Lot cheaper to get into a mono sailboat first and learn the lessons that has to offer - then work through it. Definitely no reason to assume any one decision has to be stuck with! Cheers
I bought a 2004 Chris Craft Roamer 43 Heritage. Doing a complete refit since I purchased it in 2019 October. I hope to see you on the water in the near future. I need to find 1 or 2 crew members like you have to join the Miss Mattie crew.
I watch for you and the ladies bobby. Doesnt matter what boat you have. To be honest it looks like the "motor yachat" is more enjoyable and a little less work than a sail boat.
In the sense that it has no sails or rigging to maintain. Otherwise, it's a wash, same hull and engine issues. As one gets older it gets more difficult to do the physical work of sailing.
Thanks for your impartiality regarding sail and power..Motor boat/trawler. I can see that the Pacific beckons! The most reliable passage must surely be sail and two economical engines! But there are light airs so, a vessel that is light may be the best option under sail! A Cat can cruise at 70% of its optimum twin engine speed on one engine but at remarkably less GPH than a trawler or a motor cruiser! I guess that when all considered in these times, that the environment must always benefit too! But when arriving at destination who wins? Well I guess that depends on the personalities on board! Choose your crew accordingly I guess. Thanks for your opinion, much appreciated.
At first glance this lifestyle sounds like tv show Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous with host Robin Leach.....but there are plenty of people who do this on a shoestring budget, and very affordably.
That boat with a pair of the Cummins 250hp motors would turn into a magic long range cruiser... still would do 11 knots flat out and burn half the fuel.
21:50 The Facebook Group "RUclips Sailing Channels" does nothing but help promote sailing channels and spread the word to include Doodles. We damn near kept a vigil during Maverick's illness. Yes, we have some bonehead members that like to hear themselves. The admins attempt to keep that at bay. facebook.com/groups/984932218324426
Al grew up on the Fox River in Illinois, 1/2 block from a local marina, worked there as a mechanic on outboards and inboards, Evinrudes & Chris Crafts through high school and college. 165 miles of waterway from the marina to Wisconsin & back through a chain of lakes. All fresh water, all cruising all the time. Somehow he learned to sail small Hobi Cats in Fiji, Lightnings in Indiana, and paddle canoes through rapids. He took the helm on night shifts of the SV Fantome on a Captain Mike's Barefoot Adventure cruise and called out docking manuevers as well. 900 tons, 4 masts, 110 feet tall, 275' long. You're either a sailor or you're not, or you are just comfortable with everything on the water. Sailing snobs call power cruisers stink pots. When a sailboat needs a tow into an inlet, maybe not so stinky after all. Red, Right, Return forever.
Oh yeah, Al has had 18 boats over his lifetime so far. They are just a hole in the water to throw money into until you sell them for more than you paid for😎
I grew up on the Chain and worked at a Marina as well. I continue to boat on the Chain every summer. Its cool to meet another fellow Chainiac on here. Let’s meet up at Blarneys!
I don't care what kind of Boat you have. I watch your channel to see the places you go and what you do when you get there. I spent 8 years in the Navy. Being at sea for 12 days crossing the Atlantic is boring.
Since you are mixing it up, your next boat should be a trawler across the Pacific. I dream of doing the Great American Loop. It will never happen but doesn't hurt to dream.
When much younger we were rag baggers. We ran into a major problem, my wife is a red head with a red head's skin. She could not be in the sun as much as sailing required. [The availability of good Biminis has improved since then.] So we started thinking in terms of stink pots. We started by looking at the sailor's stink pot the true trawler. They appealed to us, but we couldn't afford them at the time. When we decided we could do the Great Loop, and that we could afford a livable boat we started looking at Krogen 42s. Liked the design, didn't like the available boats. As we were getting ready to head back home our broker asked us to drive a bit out of our way and take a look at another boat, a Grand Banks 49 Classic. OK, why not. Grand Banks are NOT true trawlers, but they're also not go fast boats. They are considered semi-displacement boats. For lots of reasons this boat better met our needs than any of the others we'd looked at. One of the big reasons was that my wife could get everywhere on this boat. She has about a 1000nm range at displacement speeds. She's a nice two bedroom apartment that'll do 8+ knots. That suits us fine now. Would I go back to a sailboat? No. That's not because they're not good boats. It's because we're 69 and 70 years old. It's because the volume on a power boat is better suited to long term live aboard for us. It's till because, even with a nice Bimini my wife still covers from head to do the protect herself from the sun, and would not be able to spend as much time topside on a sailboat. Me, I love being on the water. So I'll take the boat that best lets me get there and stay there. David
Let’s face it, your motoryacht is much more convenient. Engine room is huge compared to sail boats. Staterooms are larger, galley is larger. There is space to be by yourself with other people on the boat. Great room to move in, when in foul weather. Fuel maximized at 7-8 knots same as a trawler for most fuel consumption with twin screws. You must also pay lots of attention to fuel filters and engine maintenance. But getting to your destination in half the time gives you more time to relax and enjoy the surroundings. Thanks for the video.
Hey Bobby, You are in a unique position to have experienced both kinds of yachts. Great to hear your opinion and that of your crew as well.(on some of your other videos). Will you ever do the great loop? How would that compare to the blue water cruising that you do?
Hey Bobby. Could you do a video on the steps and requirements for doing your own charter on a cat? I think this is referred to as a barefoot rental/charter.
It's not about the boat at all, it's about the crew your sharing your life with, sharing the laughter, sharing the food, sharing the adventure, and in the end sharing the tears.... Everyone has a special crew, it might not just be on a boat.
How does he keep all those ladies happy?
@@williamkinn5959 it's the boat, the Caribbean warmth, water, sun, good food, good drinks, conversations, exploring those destinations, making friends, RUclips income for those that crew.
That's right, With all the maintenance on your boat you will miss a lot of time with your family. Anytime your out on your boat you will be missing time with your family.
great review, i sailed for 20yrs, i switched to motor yacht, and i love it. set up you boat for full time solar. and a high capasity water maker 50 gal/hr
I stopped counting "you know's" at 3,253 and that was only 15 minutes in !! Thanks for the info Bobby.
I love the painting behind you
Great topic Bobby. The best thing about boating is all the different options out there for folks to enjoy. Be safe and keep enjoying life to its fullest. I love seeing that!
I personally like the seeing the differences between sailing, motor sailing and such. Enjoying the differences Bobby
I started watching your channel because of the exotic destinations and sail boat challenges. However, I am a trailerable power boater having traveled Key West to Montreal and many lakes and rivers on the east coast since 2000. It has been interesting to see you and your crew make the transition to motor yacht. For me at age 62, I am trying to decide between trailerable coupe and motoryacht. Many thanks to you and your crew! Cheers!
I like the move to a powerboat for now. When you move to an ocean crossing on a sailboat put this boat in management so you can come back to it. We will watch whatever you do.
I appreciate seeing all sides of boating. I've not sailed yet but have owned a boat before. Keep up the great content and visuals!
To me when you get on a sailboat you are where you want to be.A powerboat you think of going to your destination.The best boat is the one you are happy with.
You have cured me from living perpetually on the sea in my retirement. I will instead live through you vicariously and save my money for the occasional week or two on the water.
Hey bobby I was one of the last people to see Nauti dogs sailing, you passed me sailing south in the Chesapeake and we anchored in the same anchorage for the night before you went around cape Hatteras! I remember you saying you were headed for central America, now I'm thinking about selling my sailboat for a trawler or motor yacht. You are so right about the entry price, much more. This has defiantly helped clear up some questions I've had! thank you and keep on inspiring us!
Very well balanced presentation Bobby! It’s not OR, it’s WHAT is right for your goals and purposes! Strong work my friend!
Very honest review Bobby, it’s great to hear you haven’t got a blinkered view of being on the water. Each to his own as they say, horses for courses and all that. I totally agree when you get older (70’s +) a sailing yacht on open ocean would be hard going plus the lack of comfort compared to a motor yacht. Enjoy your time on the water whatever you choose but first and foremost stay safe.
Excellent video. You broke it down really well all the factors I wanted to hear, thank you!
I love your channel... Sailing, Burning man, Now stink boating.... All well edited and fun interesting and uplifting. You are a great narrator and story teller + Mechanic, jerry rigger and babe magnet!
Good job Bobby,I remember when you were sailing the Pacific and crossed the equator that was killer!!
Thanks! Yes, I was having trouble with this. I learning how to sail. Thru friends, Im not going long distances. I just want to go up and down the cost of Cali. this will be my first boat. At some point when I get used to the Ocean I will go longer distances. I was looking to buy a Sail boat. Figure it was cheaper for Diesel but as you said. Im not really going that far. I rather have the room. So me and my girl can have friends over and take them for sunset dinners etc... Do this for a year or 2 than when I get good at sailing do a longer trips. I ll be part time on my boat. Im now heavy leaning on power boat.
You have the best channel we only watch yours its real and emotional and makes us want too get more out of life tnks bobbie
Very useful and unbiased comparison. Thanks!
Dare you to count the "You know", "like", "I mean", and "you know what I mean" (s).....
Sorry....had to chuckle....most people have no idea how hard it is to record anything.
You do a very good job of something very hard to do.
Note how few of your teachers stumble over themselves.
I’m a fan of your channel but the “you knows, I mean & likes” were so distracting that I had to stop after about 12 mins.
IMHO one of the biggest differences between a monohull & a motor cruiser is the safety in bad weather. If you get caught out in storm weather in a monohull, lower the sails, batten down the hatches & even if she rolls over you should survive. In a power cruiser, if she rolls you are going to sink. This is also assuming that the motor has failed or has issues. The sea keeping properties of “gin palaces” at sea when not underway or on the plane are in my opinion very unpleasant. Keep up the good work!
that's what I like about your attitude to boating (sailing boat person writing)...you always come back to "go out and do it and get some experience"...nothing beats that advice.
Good Video. I watch sailing EP's from others. What I don't like is the Leaning/Keiling all the time, rough waves to go along with it. But,. it is fun to watch others and sometimes I think there crazy. I have a Motor Yacht with all the luxuries as a home, presently converting to Solar as well. This saves fuel and you don't have the noise or vibration from Generator.
Would listen to you before anyone on Facebook LOL You are up front and honest. Thanks for the info.
Great podcast Bobby I've been watching for a while now and when you changed boats i got excited .I like to see the different aspects of the boating world. And cant wait to see your new cat in a yr. Safe travels bud!!
Hey Bobby, not sure you read these reviews or not but thought I would toss in my 2 cents (have not watched yet, will later :). Just based on the title, They are both great for different reasons. So here it goes, for your channel, right now, just my humble opinion (and I've watched for a couple three years now), your new power boat by far I'm finding perfect. It seems your crew is enjoying very much as well. Obviously I'd have to write pages to justify pro's and con's, so to keep it short...power baby
As you say there are pros and cons to both, so it really depends on YOU, your needs and your plans for what you want. If I were to chose right now at the age of 62 - it would be some sort of a trawler type. Space, comfort, legs and general economy, but I have sailed smaller boats 27-35 feet types for shorter periods of time in my much younger days and that was great. Still with you after your switch to "the dark side" and that is in my mind not so dark - keep it up .
Sailing: The art of getting wet and becoming ill while slowly going nowhere at great expense. Never done screwing around with it. Always trimming something or furling something. Power is the way to go. More speed, less time on the boat.Been there, done that. We both lived in a 465 knot world for a good part of our lives. I’m retired now, too, for similar reasons. Safe travels, Bobby.
I'm doing pseo rn to get a degree for a position with a starting salary of 100k and a boat to go through lakes and the mighty Mississippi along with the gulf is the first thing I wanna do
Great video, fantastic to get an honest comparison from someone with experience of both.
I subscribed to Sailing Doodles originally when you were on your sailboat, which is what interested me.
My initial reaction for when you switched to motor boating was a little disheartened, as I thought that maybe it would not be for me anymore, and your channel had been one of my favorites.
But I figured I'd give it a chance, as part of the reason I subscribed in the first place was due to your personality, seeing the lifestyle, the fun guests joining you and the production value.
Turns out that I still have fun watching your videos as they continue to offer all of the above (and I've even joined the Doodles Podcast since then on top), and its actually intriguing to see the difference. Particularly seeing the comparison between the two as you came from a sailing beginning. Like life, all things change. Not necessarily better or worse, just different.
Keep up the great work, enjoy the life and look forward to possibly seeing that catamaran in a year or two!
Peters got that one👍 Great podcast, equal all around, tough choices if you're blessed enough to do any 🤔🤙
im hoping in a couple years i can find a 30-ish foot defever or grand banks type of boat and cruise around the BC coast. Itll be like my holiday trailer where the most expensive part is getting to where youre going then stay there for a week or two.
I have been watching about 8 different sailing channels. I love the community and social aspect of it. But, at 64 I don't see me sailing . So, the regional aspect of the Bahamas and Caribbean are awesome for me to do on a power boat. I have been on big lakes and rivers all my life and have always had a boat. Plus I do ALL my own mechanic work ,right down to rebuilding engines. So power boat to the Bahamas is it for me.
would like to see more maintenance mondays.
Hi Bobby,
Good to get your perspective since you have experience on both. The motor yacht was a definite choice for me because of the comfort and ease of going point to point. My Sirena 58 is a semi-displacemet Hull design so I get the best of both worlds. I can go over 900 NM at 8-10 kts. or if I want to push it to 25 kts. still with a range of over 300 NM. I can't cross the Pacific, but plan on shipping it from Martinique to Tahiti. From there I can continue my travels throughout French Polynesia, Australia, New Zealand and Asia. Hope to see you out on the water.
Paul
If you want to cross oceans and island hop get a sail boat. If you just want to island hop and waste little time getting there go motor. Either way its not cheap. Great vid Bobby.
A company designed a inflatable sail for motor yachts. They will turn your motor yacht into a sailboat. They are anchored to the bow by a winch that raises the sail to 400-500 feet and it has auto pilot built-in.
Very honest review. Many thanks. 👍I enjoyed your video.
I like the idea of a catamaran personally been thinking a lot about a silent all electric
if your smart enough to learn to sail its wonderful ,just the thought of wind power is fascinating. but its dangerous if your not experienced, especially off shore in questionable weather.
Tough subjects: motor/versus sail/hull configurations, destination choices...having viewed the vid , you netted good stuff.
I know a crew that in fact lost their mast at sea, and had to motor the rest of the way. It's good to have that backup.
Losing an engine is far more common though.
And for your backup to be the exact same model with identical maintenance and running hours, running on the same fuel as the motor that just failed is not ideal.
Great comparisons Bobby. Thank you.
Many years later and you've recently posted a video on a hybrid cat you ordered. It seems like the RUclips cruisers (who is willing to sail) default is to try trawlers and express cruisers, and finally put the money down on a catamaran.
Most boats have no air-conditioning and are not intended for you to live aboard. You have to get north of a half million dollars before you start getting into live aboards with air conditioning ad real beds with real mattresses.
Unless you are waterskiing or tubing you don't need the power of a powerboat. A small engine in a sailboat is all you need.
I love the idea of sailing but my Back says no, so I have been looking at power catamarans and then I did some more research and found solar power catamaran, that the way I will be going.
Excellent break down Captain Doodles:) Ahar!
This just came up on my feed so don't blame me for being late. I find there are two different thought process when it comes to boats, if you are young and still athletic they go for a sailboat. Older retired folks like the idea of turning on a motor and going. If you own a sailboat you will be going up the mast and it is a deal breaker for me now. And my experience in the Sea of Cortez was that even sailboats would wait till the wind had gone down to leave, then put on the motor because they are going to slow. My question is, why do power boats usually have such poor anchor gear? Bruce, CQR, or Danforth are just not cutting it to keep you safe. A rocna Vulcan would be a better choice, but I think powerboats spend most of the time at the marina so anchor gear doesn't matter. And lastly Bobby, you really need to take some diction lessons. If you were slapped every time you say "you know" you would soon stop. Makes you sound like a rube.
The actual travel, you need to do more physical work on a sailboat, with the constant vigilance for making those adjustments to keep her under control.
On a power boat, the travel is much more relaxing time.
Maintenance costs work out about the same.
Even with your motor yacht style, you can reduce your fuel burn by reducing your speed, try running at 5-6 knots for your next long run and see the difference in burn.
One power boat style to consider is the motor sailor, Nordhavn makes one though the more commonly known is the Diesel Duck and diesel Swan.
MOTOR YACHTING IS THE TOP SHELF WAY TO GO...
OF THE FLEET OF BOATS ON THE OCEAN , IT IS A CRUISE SHIP OR PRIVATE MOTOR YACHT THAT YIELDS THE MOST FUN PER BUCK SPENT !!!
GREAT ENTERTAINMENT BOBBY !!!
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If you an afford a cat then it is great for comfort, no one can dispute that. The biggest issues with cats is the slapping on the bottom of the bridge deck, which many modern cats have minimised quite well. Check out the channel, Sailing Aequus, they have a brand new 59 foot Bavaria and it is super nice, can even single hand sail with ease. New Amel 60 are also amazing but these will cost over 500k new easy. More like 900k-1 million, once you spec it out properly. You know this from your boat tours you used to do, when lockdown non sense stops are you going to go back to the boat shows and do more tours, always like your tours, super relaxed and from a reasonable perspective.
Good Info Bobby. Hope to see you out there one day
Best of both worlds...Power Cat...specifically, Leopard 53...dream boat. Panama to Marquesas with maybe a two hundred extra gallons in an auxiliary tank at around 7 knots.
Good balanced points. For sure if money is no object just drop into a big power-cruiser or sailing cat but most of us should just go out and try something - maybe a charter first. Lot cheaper to get into a mono sailboat first and learn the lessons that has to offer - then work through it. Definitely no reason to assume any one decision has to be stuck with! Cheers
You guys should have Lazy Geckos on for an interview and have them sail with Bobby and Taylor !
100% of all sailboat owners&renters are proud their boat can cross an ocean , still %99 percent never ever had crossed an ocean in their lives.
I bought a 2004 Chris Craft Roamer 43 Heritage. Doing a complete refit since I purchased it in 2019 October. I hope to see you on the water in the near future. I need to find 1 or 2 crew members like you have to join the Miss Mattie crew.
I watch for you and the ladies bobby. Doesnt matter what boat you have.
To be honest it looks like the "motor yachat" is more enjoyable and a little less work than a sail boat.
In the sense that it has no sails or rigging to maintain. Otherwise, it's a wash, same hull and engine issues. As one gets older it gets more difficult to do the physical work of sailing.
Thanks for your impartiality regarding sail and power..Motor boat/trawler. I can see that the Pacific beckons! The most reliable passage must surely be sail and two economical engines! But there are light airs so, a vessel that is light may be the best option under sail! A Cat can cruise at 70% of its optimum twin engine speed on one engine but at remarkably less GPH than a trawler or a motor cruiser! I guess that when all considered in these times, that the environment must always benefit too! But when arriving at destination who wins? Well I guess that depends on the personalities on board! Choose your crew accordingly I guess. Thanks for your opinion, much appreciated.
I cant wait to see you on a cat next. They really are the jack of all trades boat.
He did a few episodes on a cat.
At first glance this lifestyle sounds like tv show Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous with host Robin Leach.....but there are plenty of people who do this on a shoestring budget, and very affordably.
I think sail boat because the wind is always free to think how much a year you spend in fuel or gas lol
You could get a Hatteras LRC 58 for $300k. They can cross oceans.
excellent info
That boat with a pair of the Cummins 250hp motors would turn into a magic long range cruiser... still would do 11 knots flat out and burn half the fuel.
Motor sailor. that's the answer, almost unlimited range in a much easier boat to navigate with. the ultimate compromise in boating
THANK YOU BOBBY !!!
Great info! Thanks for sharing!
21:50 The Facebook Group "RUclips Sailing Channels" does nothing but help promote sailing channels and spread the word to include Doodles. We damn near kept a vigil during Maverick's illness. Yes, we have some bonehead members that like to hear themselves. The admins attempt to keep that at bay. facebook.com/groups/984932218324426
Love the boat talk!
Good clip thanks for the breakdown.Be nice to cover the legal aspect of sailing as in licensing to sail the open seas.
Loving the flamingo shirt Bobby 🦩
Big differentiator is getting partner onboard - motor is waaaay easier
Al grew up on the Fox River in Illinois, 1/2 block from a local marina, worked there as a mechanic on outboards and inboards, Evinrudes & Chris Crafts through high school and college. 165 miles of waterway from the marina to Wisconsin & back through a chain of lakes. All fresh water, all cruising all the time. Somehow he learned to sail small Hobi Cats in Fiji, Lightnings in Indiana, and paddle canoes through rapids. He took the helm on night shifts of the SV Fantome on a Captain Mike's Barefoot Adventure cruise and called out docking manuevers as well. 900 tons, 4 masts, 110 feet tall, 275' long. You're either a sailor or you're not, or you are just comfortable with everything on the water. Sailing snobs call power cruisers stink pots. When a sailboat needs a tow into an inlet, maybe not so stinky after all. Red, Right, Return forever.
Oh yeah, Al has had 18 boats over his lifetime so far. They are just a hole in the water to throw money into until you sell them for more than you paid for😎
I grew up on the Chain and worked at a Marina as well. I continue to boat on the Chain every summer. Its cool to meet another fellow Chainiac on here. Let’s meet up at Blarneys!
@@Crazyreseller We've moved away to another state, an 8 hour drive away. Enjoy the Chain and Blarneys!
Great podcast loved it also cheers to u dude
Thanks Bobby....hope to run into you one day on St. John....
Tacking is the key you have to tack heading east.
Good info share Bobby, thanks!!!!
ought to take up uno "you know" what I mean. lol just kidding enjoy the channel "you know"
I don't care what kind of Boat you have. I watch your channel to see the places you go and what you do when you get there. I spent 8 years in the Navy. Being at sea for 12 days crossing the Atlantic is boring.
You're not on Spotify?
The old podcast is, but I can't find this one.
Thanks... another great video
Someone should count the 'you know's
Thank you
Since you are mixing it up, your next boat should be a trawler across the Pacific. I dream of doing the Great American Loop. It will never happen but doesn't hurt to dream.
You need to write a book.
Mate, best of both worlds is an ocean-going displacement power cat. I get easy 2700nm range at 8.8kt without bladders.
What is the best direction to steer if meeting a large vessel in a close channel? Across wake or parallel? Thanks in advance
Watching you, the power boat is better.
The fuel is the only question.
Your boat is sufficient.
I love sailing, but this change my mind.
You have told me how limiting the power boat is. I prefer the thought of sail. If the wind goes there then so can you.
When much younger we were rag baggers. We ran into a major problem, my wife is a red head with a red head's skin. She could not be in the sun as much as sailing required. [The availability of good Biminis has improved since then.] So we started thinking in terms of stink pots. We started by looking at the sailor's stink pot the true trawler. They appealed to us, but we couldn't afford them at the time. When we decided we could do the Great Loop, and that we could afford a livable boat we started looking at Krogen 42s. Liked the design, didn't like the available boats. As we were getting ready to head back home our broker asked us to drive a bit out of our way and take a look at another boat, a Grand Banks 49 Classic. OK, why not. Grand Banks are NOT true trawlers, but they're also not go fast boats. They are considered semi-displacement boats. For lots of reasons this boat better met our needs than any of the others we'd looked at. One of the big reasons was that my wife could get everywhere on this boat. She has about a 1000nm range at displacement speeds. She's a nice two bedroom apartment that'll do 8+ knots. That suits us fine now.
Would I go back to a sailboat? No. That's not because they're not good boats. It's because we're 69 and 70 years old. It's because the volume on a power boat is better suited to long term live aboard for us. It's till because, even with a nice Bimini my wife still covers from head to do the protect herself from the sun, and would not be able to spend as much time topside on a sailboat.
Me, I love being on the water. So I'll take the boat that best lets me get there and stay there.
David
As they say in the world of racing-Speed costs money-how fast do you want to go?-
Let’s face it, your motoryacht is much more convenient. Engine room is huge compared to sail boats. Staterooms are larger, galley is larger. There is space to be by yourself with other people on the boat. Great room to move in, when in foul weather. Fuel maximized at 7-8 knots same as a trawler for most fuel consumption with twin screws. You must also pay lots of attention to fuel filters and engine maintenance. But getting to your destination in half the time gives you more time to relax and enjoy the surroundings. Thanks for the video.
Only if you don't want to cover distance. Try circumnavigating the world on motor
Very well said, good job
Hey Bobby,
You are in a unique position to have experienced both kinds of yachts. Great to hear your opinion and that of your crew as well.(on some of your other videos).
Will you ever do the great loop? How would that compare to the blue water cruising that you do?
Thanks, great video
what about the best of both worlds, a trawler with a smaller mast
A sailboat is better, with fewer fuel costs.
Hey Bobby. Could you do a video on the steps and requirements for doing your own charter on a cat? I think this is referred to as a barefoot rental/charter.
12:30, sorry what was that sailboat which was super fast but uncomfortable? Ultramare or something? Could not find it...