Russia, Iran and India Want to Bypass the Suez Canal Via the Persian Corridor 2.0
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This ends with Putin dead or in the docket for war crimes.
Russia will be split into its constituent republics, reduced to Muscovy.
Turkiye alongside Finland and Estonia will rival against China for dominance in the newly created Finnic and Turkic states, the Islamic ones too. NATO allies likelier to prevail in that struggle due to linguistic and cultural ties.
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This isn't a question of by-passing the Suez Canal, it is an issue of the more efficient logistics option! Faster transit time thus reducing inventory costs.
As some are gearing up for a real big war, diversification of routes has a place in the planning.
The intention may not have been to ditch the Suez Canal. Still, "the more efficient logistics option" works by "by-passing the Suez Canal".
A 30% cost saving from Bombay to Russia seems unrealistic and overly optimistic given the railway transshipment involved.
In one way yes, in another no. @@williamzk9083 Good times bad times did not reported in the 3 bypasses around the Caspian Sea. So depending the trajectory there will be more or less transshipment. The truth is that the corridor is not capable to transport all the cargo send to it. It is actually taking more time now than sending it through the Suez. It tell a story of success but also of subdimension. Iran is far from modern logistics and has a long way to learn about it. There is a big commitment from the iranian side noting how such corridors increase economy and trade seems to be changing the perspective how economy can me managed. It is not the cost that matters at this moment but bringing up and running even being unprofitable, at least now. The container price is very good at the moment. The iranian turnover for their economy is enormous. India is still behind the schedule. At the some time we see how regional partners are very interested as well, Iraq, Oman and UAE want to take part in the project, even China is interested, trying to invest in a new central corridor.
It is geopolitics it has little to do with saving pennies.
MAJOR CORRECTION AT 19:12 you used term ALLY India does not subscribe to the term ally, no country is an ally of India. It's just partnership, it can be at different levels.
well corrected but then again Bharat is neither an ally nor a partner . Its simply a mutual understanding in the current time.
TOTALLY, BECAUSE IN THIS MOVE, RUSSIA, AND CHINA, COULD CHOOSE TO 'BETRAY INDIA AND IRAN, INTO THEIR CONTROL IF THEY WANTED TO. AND ONCE THEY OWN ALL OF THE WATERWAYS TO TRADE, THEN THEY CAN JUST CUTT OFF INDIA IN A STRANGLEHOLD. IT IS DIABOLICAL, AND PM MODI, MUST KEEP THE SECURITY OF HIS NATION BY STANDING UP TO THIS. ASLO I THINK THAT THERE IS VERY GOOD EVIDENCE, THAT RUSSIA, COULD ALSO BETRAY IRAN. AND STEAL ALL OF ITS WATERWAY TRADE THIS WAY. RUSSIA WILL ULTIMATELY RIP OFF THE IRAN. WHY? BECAUSE PUTIN HAS ALREADY THREATENED TO DUMP, BOTH IRAN AND INDIA, TO GIVE THE COAL DEAL TO AFGHAN....SO THAT PUTIN CAN RECK ASIA IN ANOTHER PANDEMIC RELEASED FROM A BIO FARM. PM MODI', NEED TO STAND UP TO ALL OF THIS KREMLIN CONTROL CRAP.@
@@mizzboomorris3276 Just shut up diahorrea ! Russia has always kept its word and so has Iran .Weve had trade relations with Iran from even before usa even existed and Europe was even in the reckoning ! Our PM knows this quite well, as for trust we all can see whats gonna happen to Ukraine in a few months time ! Europe is waking up slowly but surely so u can take all our shit and shove it back up !
Ally means a very close partnership, where trade isn't the only thing connecting two nations but also similar values and geopolitical interests. It's funny that when Indians are eager to correct the term "ally" with "partnership," they are basically saying that their foreign relations are weaker than the West.
@@hamzamahmood9565 oh just stop thinking with ur pants down! Ur just exposing the way you think about the west!!!
Redundancy is actually really good for trade and trade routes, no matter wich sides you are on
Could you expand on that?
100% I hate the way things like this are presented as zero sum games when increased trade benefits everyone.
@@btr8390 when the suez was blocked all trade that wanted to go to Europe had to go via South Africa. There were no other routes. If you have an Iran rail link, a polar route, an silk road route and the suez if one of them fails the global economy doesn't crash with it
@@JasperKlijndijk Interesting. The Strait of Hormuz should definitely be added to that list.
@@JasperKlijndijk dude, just look at the map and tell me if that were even possible or not
A canal though centre Iran a country full of mountain? Then though the entire Russia From south to north?
The Problem with India's neighborhood is that most of them (Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Myanmar) are under some sort of sanction from western nation that makes working with them on any infra project very difficult.
Yeah.. this is one reason the west sanction it or create the civil war and secretly support the warring faction
The question is whether India would decide to give up billions in trades with western allies to open a doubtful route to... well, russia. It's not like russians will be able to offer a lot. Raw materials? India has them. I doubt the scale will reach suez considering that no other countries west to russia would be trading with it.
@@matt-eu-poland the west had come to indian shores for trade from old times or even if they don't trade china will blackmail them..GP..
@@vikramgurung3043 dude, what is "the West" nowadays has nothing to do with "West" back then. I'm from Poland. My country hasn't gone anywhere. We don't blackmail anybody but yet we trade a lot with India. What's the point of risking trade with so many different countries to trade with authoritarian, sanctioned russia? None.
The West makes up 15% of the World. And Europe lacks Natural Resources. The new World Order will see China with the Largest economy in the World, India with Second, then USA, then Russia and other BRICS and Asian nations.
There is an old German project to bypass the Suez Canal; It is extending a railway starting from Kuwait to Germany. But Britain stoped it by signing a protection agreement with Kuwait. The project can be revived by extending a railway from Kuwait to Europe via Iraq and Turkey.
Then HS2 could be discussed!
Oil could be sent the same way from Syria, Kuwait
Large ships are 5x more efficient than railways, even small ships can handle 2x more cargo than the largest trains.
Imagine waiting for a 7 kilometer train to pass, it would literally take 2 hours at the speed they are allowed to go. That is how long they need to be able to compete with ships
Railroad from Oman, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Turkey can make sense, I expect be high chance of sabotage.
@@-.-..._...-.- No offense, but railway crossings in same level are abit "old school". Nowadays railways are constructed with bridges or tunnels crossing them.
6:20 Correction: 5 000 aircraft, not 50 000
Can you pin your comment please so it can be immediately found?
Thank you! My mind thought it was very many planes, 5000 makes a lot more sense. Thank you.
This is called fakery & narrative building. How many people are coming to read this comment?
and You WILL NOT pin this comment. Shows your intention.
Where do you live BTW, and who funds you?
No, you don't need to tell, your behaviour says it all.
Good information. Thank you. I hadn’t heard of the INSTC, International North South Trade Corridor before and am glad too. It makes perfectly good sense for trade.
I feel that the US didn't care about Iran except for 1979 and Operation Ajax. This video gave us an interesting and insightful history lesson on Iran's modern history
It explains why President Mossadegh's pussyfooting around with the USSR had to be taken seriously and that there was more to the coup than just oil interests.
U.S has been meadling in Iran since the wwII, and the British even before that
@@MarkSmith-vo1vn The Russians before that.
the USA (and Britain) didn't overthrow the Iranian government and end parliamentary democracy replacing it with dictatorship for shits and giggles !
They have buyers regret after their dictator got overthrown and replaced by the Russian leaning caliphate .
@@ubroc
Sir, I'm cheering on what now ?
Of course I'm the "bad guy" , because you just made up a ton of false crap and assigned it to me.
But , that is what lying propogandists do. They lie , and avoid facts that they don't like.
And smear anyone who factually counters their BS, because a smear works when you can't actually make an argument against facts .
The suez canal cost a lot of money for passageway which increases annually. Hence the increase in ship size to try and combat this cost. The speed of travel by land against by ship helps offset the cost to load/unload cargo to cross the Caspian sea. There is also a lot of distribution along the line of the railway system that would have to be brought down from northern ports if it was all transported to Russia by sea.
Actual the Persian's build the Suez canal in Egypt during Achaemenid empire 2500 years ago to connect their economy from Asia through African and Europe. Also the Suez tablet still exist in Egypt which Persian's explains this amazing achievement.
Had the Germans won WW2 they were preparing to built the "breitsphurban" a "3m wide gauge railway" from Berlin, through Warsaw, Russia, Siberia, Across the Bering Sea, Alaska then Fairbanks Canada where it was eventually to connect to the USA and finally down to South America. The 3m gauge would have allowed 6m wide carriages. The size would have allowed competitiveness with large ships. The possibilities for goods, outsize machinery was obvious but 1st class carriages were essentially private homes. The standard gauge of 1.42m is completely and absurdly limiting of much industry to port cities.
Have you tried out your proposal of 3 m gauge? EU would have to totally rework all its railway systems!
@@PahatRout From my reading off Chinese rail network proposal there would be new railway lines laid outside off the existing infrastructure because between China and the EU there are 16 different railway gauges of various quality and signal systems. Integration would be far to costly and involve to many transfer of goods between systems meaning sea transport still cheaper. New railway lines being laid and now already from China to Pakistan plus a link into Iran. ( think this railway system is being put into place to reduce ability of US navy to control flow of oil and others recourses out of Middle East to China)
@@kentriat2426 Those 14 gauges are small in length as the International Gauge and the Broad gauge really link up the major players
Chabahar is a far better choice than Bandar Abbas as the starting point of the corridor. It bypasses Strait of Hormuz and is far better port in terms of capacity and is closer to India. The beauty of it is that even Pakistan can use the same corridor via railroad as an alternate route,
True, and that is the plan, but the railroad to Chabahar is not yet finished. Nevertheless the amount of cargo already being put to the corridor is so big they will need both ports. Most Iranian railways are single line, that limits a lot the traffic. It can be solved with very intelligent signalisation and software as well as cargo tracking all things Iran and some central asian countries need to learn but are far from it any time soon.
Bandar Abbas is connected by a two-track railway to Tehran and that is the reason why that port was chosen. China financed the railway across Pakistan and the Qwadar port.
Given that Iran and Pakistan have been exchanging missile strikes in the past couple of weeks, then I now don't see the latter country making much use of such a route.
A few words on RUclips and on the Internet is not difficult, so familiarize yourself with the route of the Eastern Corridor.
The MSM you are exposed to did not inform you of the current flow of goods through that corridor.@@TheEulerID
@@TheEulerID The hardest thing is to use a brain.
Here I used mine
1. I looked on Google maps where the conflict occurred
2. I looked at the route of the Eastern Corridor
So I measured on the nearest part how far they are.
How far is the Eastern Corridor, i.e. the railway, from the conflict site on the nearest part?
This bro is the new Chirvan from Caspian Report
Very good analysis. Its hard to stay neutral when you have oil and a 1000km coastline.
Say it to Indonesia
@@poncoyogapurnomo3517 Indonesia has managed it doesn't make it any easier.
@@ndahiya3730 that right. Then in history, between Soviet and United States actually hopes Indonesia stay neutral with depends with 'them' help
What happens after the end of US Empire. It is coming soon.
@@AugustKling Not before Russia's downfall. Let's worry about the realistic problems first.
This will increase transportation costs tremendously. Russia loads grain onto grain ships in the Caspian Sea, moves them to an Iranian harbor on the Caspian Sea, unloads the grain from the ships and puts them on trains, which move across Iran to an Iranian port on the Persian Gulf, where it is loaded again onto a different ship to go to its final destination in India or China.
Or instead, the grain is loaded onto ships in the Black Sea which travel through the Black Sea and the Suez Canal to their destination ports in India or China. No additional unloading / loading needed.
India doesn't import grain from Russia or anywhere else. This NSTC is designed mainly for transporting Russian crude to India. Of course, it is intended for two way trade between India and Russia in the long run.
Russia doesn't need the NSTC to ship stuff to China. They share a border and have excellent overland routes for that.
@@DevKumar-rq1jq I think I saw where India is actually an exporter of grain, so you are correct in pointing out that India will not be importing grain from Russia, but other nations will be buying grain from Russia, and this extra handling adds to the cost of the grain.
But at least 3-4000 km longer with sea pollution in addition. More fossil fuel used as well and currently the Black sea is close to a war zone-soon it may be inside a war zone. Any further sanctions againbt Russia will make the longer route more vulnerable to western blackmail. BRI will make it even shorter. So currently the Caspian-Arabian sea route is the preferred competitive option-as well as staying as far away from potential western interferences as possible.
Going thru Suez , there is western hegemony, legal extortions, and western sabotage.
@@shahidhassan3492 Sea transport is the most fuel efficient way of transport per ton goods. The pollution of trucks, diesel train och electric train (electricity from coal power plant) is much higher. Even if the ship takes a detour. Remember the capacity of an Ultra large container vessel is huge. 7000-9000 40 ft containers. Transporting and relocate oil on vessel-train-vessel is even more inefficient. The idea is probably to build a pipeline through the Caspian sea and through Iran. But there is still mountans to go over. And the still have to load it on western insured vessels. It is less than an ideal situation for Russia.
Excellent presentation! Great to hear details on the Persian Corridor.
00:30 Moscow Never failed in ukrain, and who waits this will die waiting. All the east is with Russia, not only Iran.
The idea was kept in cold storage for a century because of the British (in possession of India) were wary of the Russian thrust to the warm waters of Indian Ocean, that was to be opposed. With the exit of European (colonial/imperial) powers from Asia, it came to light that the most "taken-for-granted" Pan-Asian route is really non-existent. INS Corridor will obviate that situation.
In global trade, "transit" countries (that allow other countries' goods through them to the land-locked countries numbering 44) play a vital part, to open up a hitherto unrecognised potential of trade with interior countries. Iran is No.1 transit country simply because more Asian areas (the five - Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan & Turkmenistan) have little access to sea. Iran (in tandem with Caspian Sea) will gain a lot through "transit fees" levied on the advantage vis-a-vis Suez canal that topped its capacity.
Russia is the most disadvantaged maritime nation, though possessing (perhaps) the longest coast line. Probably 5% of it only is useful - in warm Black Sea & seasonally frozen Baltic Sea (with Black Sea route the winner). All that advantage will pass on to a land corridor through Iran. The huge crude oil deposits in Russian interior can only be economically transported through this North-South corridor, what with the Himalayan barrier for such transport corridors preventing any such effort. A system is already started in India receiving cheap Russian crude, that India is processing the crude (in Jamnagar refinery, the world's largest) and selling the down-stream products all over the world including the West. In fact there are nearer & less-congested ports than Bombay (you mentioned). Port Okha (Dwaraka) in Gujarat (India) that is about 100 miles from Jamnagar refinery of Ambanis, is about 500 nautical miles from Chah'bahar port in Iran on the Gulf of Oman, avoiding Persian gulf & its bottle-neck, Hormuz strait. A VLCC can cover the entire Arabian Sea transit in 25 hours at 20 knots.
This is an excellent coverage that you gave, on the most vital transport link (corridor) of our times.
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Namibia arguably has a worse maritime situation despite it's coast
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Yet it is far better than having no coast. There are some ports like Walvis Bay.
Have you been to the Antarctica? The Trans-Siberian railway has been in operation across the Eurasian landmass for over a century and today a number of links from China via Kazakhstan to Central Asia have been in operations for nearly a decade!
With global warming the Northern coast of Russia will become usable for more and more months of the year. Northern Russia will also become more habitable and usable (either for mineral extraction or agriculture, or both). Global warming seems to be in Russias interest.
Uzbekistan also should hold on with two trade paths. Throughout Turkmenistan+Iran and via Afganistan+Pakistan so both routes to rival for less custom and transit fee
god_bika
The Pakistan route is anon-starter with that country in a financial mess unlike nowhere else. Plus the route needs to pass, over high Hindukush mountains. Thus, Iran route (single-country transit from Turkmenistan) is preferable.
@@god_bika
Yes
India or Russia will not invest in Afghanistan or Pakistan, damn who will give security to infra? In these both countries, lots of blast happens in these both countries
Iran have singed a deal with Pakistan to build oil pipes from iran to Pakistan, iran already built it in there country, but Pakistan have not yet started, iran have threatened them to Pakistan to icj and fine them billons of dollar! Google it!
India would like buy oil from Turkmenistan and azerbaijan or any central Asian countries, if we had Tapi oil pipeline, talk was started in decades ago, since then only Turkmenistan have built it 😅
everyone is forgetting fertilizers, which also double as explosives, and pesticides. there is also quite a lot of grain that could be exported. Oil is only known because it makes the greatest impact to west. oil pipelines are possible, but futile. for longer term stability, it is more likely something else will be traded.
People are dumb. Very dumb. However, scientists have recently discovered most farmers are using about 12x too much fertilizer. There’s a new technique that yields better crops with much less fertilizer. If this technique gains widespread awareness, it will severely undermine Russia’s fertilizer industry.
Oil IS that linger term stability because it's not just energy commodities, it's also plastics and other materials.
If you want a developed nation, you need oil. Period. Even a purely green nation (which is impossible with today's tech) will still use plastics and other such polycarbonate materials. You need oil for that. Period.
Pipelines are safer and cheaper than by sea. That's why the west got rid of the largest shipping vessels ever made over time. It's simply more efficient to use pipelines. The issue is that since 1947, NATO and the Soviet bloc had the area divided, which meant such pipelines were at risk to attack.......... LIKE NORDSTROM. lol
If the area was politically safer and under control of one or the other, pipelines would've been fueling Europe from the ME. It just would've been one or the other. Russia's pipeline would've been from Iran, while the NATO one (read USA and Brit) would've been from Kuwait thru Iraq.
True, most people dont know fertilizer prices have been rising recently and making farming almost unprofitable
The word "Suez" will slip into
antiquity as "Timbuktu".
"Failure of the Special Military Operation in Ukraine" 0:21? Ukraine is getting its' ass kicked. Failure of the Ukrainian Counteroffensive.
The great game has been going on for 3 centuries with Russia trying to get a warm water port and being fought back by various nations.
3 centuries of europe trying to break Russia only to have their empires break their teeth, Napoleon, Hitler and now America
Is not the Black Sea a warm water port?
@@jerryclark5725 Black sea port is bottle neck by Turkey's channel. So it isn't a freely port.
@@alexlo7708 Agreed.
@@alexlo7708 Russia has enough ports: Baltic, Black, Pacific, White sea
What I am seeing here is that instc benefits India the most, the only worthwhile thing all the other countries of instc can export to India (and each other for that matter) is oil and raw materials like metal, where as India can export a lot more, because of its bigger economy, better industrial capacity and better workforce, I don't see how is this going to benefit Russia or Central Asian Republics or even Iran for that matter as they can't trade with each other because they will essentially be exporting the same material to each other.
And after this Ruso-Ukrainian war, I don't think Europe would be too keen on importing Russian or Iranian oil either (their biggest exports). And If India somehow manages to convince EU to accept indian exports through instc, It would only make India's case stronger.
The best Iran and Russia will get from this trade route is cargo processing fee because they won't be adding anything of value to the exports, just like the Egyptians.
Well they can convince EU coz china is getting old and unfriendly to west
aha! I was almost thinking the exact same thing. This deal only benefits India. Russia is heading for a slow decline in everything especially with its aging population. And Iran … well who knows what the further will be there.
Wrong. Those countries can use that route to export to other Asian countries besides India. It’s also a shorter route to China and South Africa.
This route can even be used by Azerbaijan to bring goods from Asia to Europe. It’s not as dumb as you think. If it’s cheaper and faster, people will use it.
Australia? .....I see a possible role here for Australia.
@@Parrot3054 Don't be naive, the fact that China has bri doesn't mean they will exclusively use only that. Throughput optimization, redundancy, efficiency, security, speed will all be factors on which route is chosen. Concerning item to trade I can guess grains, building materials, furniture, carpets, plastics, chemicals, arms, etc. Yep semi processed stuff.
For Iran; It's an opportunity to improve their infrastructure and make some money through transit fees. For Indians, better access to oil from Russia and Iran.
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You forgot to mention the Arctic convoys when we supplied Russia with food and weapons even though we had very little to spare or the number of merchant ships that were sent to the bottom while helping our Russian allies let alone the armed trawlers that armed with very little escorted them facing hardships and weather conditions that even with today’s technology would make many navies think twice
62,400 Tons per ship. 100 Tons per rail car. 26 Tons per truck. 1 Ore Vessel. = 624 Rail cars. = 2,400 Trucks. Great Lakes freighters
Very insightful content as always, thank you.
whats insightful about telling a huge lie about "Russia failure of special operation in Ukraine" ? On the other hand, no, keep on listening to this hiddenly and implicit one-sided poem , keep believing its true that Russia is in danger of being isolated. Keep on sleeping , guys. Btw, doesnt anybody here at all have some of his own reliable sources in Belarus, Ukraine and Russia , that would give you only facts and not layer of facts +two layers of lies, of what is actually happening in real time and real life over there? For God s sake.
This is what India (& Russia) have been looking forward, with Iran as the transit country.
Suez canal is most convenient for European countries doing business with Asian maritime margins. It offers Russia an access to the Indian Ocean.
There were proposals to dig canal through Negev desert, it failed proposal to connect Persian Gulf with Mediterranean sea, it failed. Usually the problem is elevation and lack of water and cost.
This project seems to have the same issue, it will have at least two transloadings (unless they will build broad gauge line through Iran), but quite possibly, three or four. That is quite a bit problematic. As well it needs cooperation from other countries along Caspian Sea.
There was proposal for ship canal, but that could cause serious problems in arid region and mess with water resources and rainfalls.
A diverse and inclusive pilot's union could clog the Suez indefinitely.
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Yes. Even now large vessels such as VLCC, SLCC prefer going round the Cape of Good Hope - a la Bartolomeo Diaz even in the last decade of fifteenth century as speeds like 30 knots are achievable in the open Ocean, while for duration in the Suez, the speed can be like 0.1 knot (185 m per hour)! a huge LPG carrier needs to go really fast to save cost of on-board liquefaction of the fuel.
Russia has access to the Indian Ocean via the Black Sea, Mediterranean and Suez Canal. No need for any transhipment.
@@rogerphelps9939 Access to the Black Sea is controlled by Turkey, a NATO member which can effectively block Russians from getting Mediterranean. Suez canal is again controlled by somebody, Egypt this time and while it had remained neutral, there still is this danger, just as in case of Gibraltar and access to the Red Sea is controllable as well. Those seas are more like interconnected salt water lakes, than seas and access can be denied at various points.
.04 cents a mile by boat and .20 cents per mile by and\sea?.....not gonna happen.
The Suez route is 4-5 times longer than the Iranian route ! So the planned Iran-Caspian route comes in the same ballpark region as the Suez route. It's a competitive model... and on top of that it becomes really really attractive given the marine insurance headache and the problematic chokepoints on the European route.
@@jusmeetsingh1907 ok ok Putin lover just go and waste your money already:)
@@_Hell_. Putin? who?
How quickly you jumped from facts (costs) to sentiments?
@@jusmeetsingh1907
So… what are the resources that will be sent on these routes?
Industries are moving their production factories from China to India. Means India will need more oil products ( from Russia at a big discount) and other raw materials. But what will Russia get besides $$$? I can’t see Russia in the future being a country that has a large consumer market that India could trade with.
The more I try to understand it the more confused I get. 😂
I have only just become interested in Geopolitics in the last year and there is SO MUCH going on at the moment 🤯
@@Aussie-Mocha India has a huge number of rich businessmen who would want caviar and vodka and to resell titanium platinum fertilizers Oil Gas timber..
Don't you worry the scope is endless.
Thank you for posting this video that gives so many informations regarding what may happen in the coming decades.
I have to admit that I didn't know much about the topic and thanks to GTBT I am feeling better aware about geopolitics so far.
Thank you again, I am going to subscribe to GTBT.
India developing Chabahar port of Iran was a masterstroke .
India is Iran's best partners in direct access to Russia and Eastern Europe.
For sure?? Iran is nearer to Russia than India is!!!
will Turkey and Israel sit by while Iran gets more powerful? Azerbaijan seems to be the linchpin to all these plans and yet you didnt mention it. i thought Turkey and to a lesser extend Israel were close to the Azerbaijan government.
Yes they will sit
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@@worldofmix6766 i dont know why theyd sit. Turkey has waited years to influence Central Asia again. Israel cant afford to watch wait and see.
I think Azerbaijan will eventually face dual invasion from north and south by Iran and Russia if they continue to try to oppose both regimes. They can just Polanize the country. Turkey will be angry but wont risk war with both Russia and Iran at the same time.
"United by complimentary grivience"
That sounds like a toxic Reddit thread
19:12
CORRECTION- India is no ally of US as of now. We have made our stance pretty clear from the very beginning. We are ally to no one. Ally is very much a western term. We believe in partnership where both the partners have the right to do things which is best for their interest. US has a very bad record in standing beside their allies. Historically they have abandoned many of their allies, backstabbed them, even when thet sell millitary hardware to nations it comes with terms and conditions. A country can purchase US weapon but will only be able to use it against someone if US approves. If US wants India to stand beside it in its time of need it will have to stop poking its nose in our internal matters, it will have to support the terror sponser Pakistan. If it respects our interests we will respect theirs.
>India is close US ally (19:10)
Where did you get that from???
India doesn't even have a strategic partnership with US, let alone an alliance or being a close ally. Neutrality and not going into alliances with other countries is core part of India's foreign policy. Even Quad is a "Security Dialogue", a dialogue. Not a partnership, not an alliance just a dialogue.
When you got to move a lot of stuff, nothing is cheaper than floating it on a ship. Not a railroad or highway or airplane.
Only if there are no choke points
Excellent presentation regarding a topic I've never previously heard mentioned, even briefly.
This sounds familiar oh wait for it's because they've talked about this idea before every decade and it never materializes why would now be any different. Also, the fact it would go sea to land than sea again is just going to make it extremely more expensive to ship things because Iran is a country with a large number of mountain ranges. Either they tunnel through them [which would take years] or go around which makes the trip longer
What about a pipeline? Also didn't they build the route during ww2 so why not just rebuild it but better?
@@someguy1559 The world war two one was a coop invasion/occupation with the Soviets and the UK to get supplies to the Soviets in a different route with less than useful throughput. And a pipeline under the Caspian sea through Iran then routed to India is once again a massive undertaking and revolving around Pakistan not blocking a line going through their country [otherwise it goes underwater again increasing costs considerably.] Pakistan and India having bad relations are what stops a pipeline through central Asia, to begin with. and China would 100% block a pipeline to India through its country because of active border disputes.
@@kraigisboss 30% of the supplies to Soviet Union happened through this route, so your skepticism is a the very least unfounded.. even if it is not malafide and diversionary.
@Jusmeet Singh You're talking about a time 80 years ago, when a communist state that didn't exactly need to pay people and the British empire decided money was no object and goods needed shipped through no matter the cost
Now it's the world's longest dead empire with massive sanctions trying to work with a reactionary patch of mountains filled with massive domestic political upheaval and bonus sanctions, to ship raw resources to a country that is both doing plenty fine without them and will increase manufacturing capability in India.
All this to feed a country engaged in border skirmishes with their other ally China? All this seems to be doing is weakening all three of them and their relations with each other, and trying to bring a new country into the fold that just learned they couldn't trust the Russians to ship them military goods due to them throwing Indian T-90s at Ukraine, which is their biggest export outside of raw resources.
This is another autocratic pipe dream doomed to fail and waste their money and time, and for this reason I think they should keep going, build 2 railways in fact, maybe put a mega city on the coast that will sink into the ocean, the possibilities are endless
....the stars weren't quite as aligned before now?
Nicely done -- both balanced & informative. For those of us whose grasp of geopolitics does not include this part of the world you've provided a very helpful introduction. And, it's obvious (at least to me) that at least a few of the commenters are quite knowledgable about this topic. Thank you!
He is still salty about Crimea.
"Balanced"? When he talks about "Russia's and Iran's international isolation"? The whole Latin America, the whole of Africa, the Saudis, Turkey, India, Pakistan and China, are all with the side of Iran and Russia. Clearly it never occurred to you how Russia has not only survived, but in fact has a stronger economy now, than it had before the war in Ukraine, all while the West is decimated by inflation, collapsing banks and sky-rocketing fuel and food prices.
@@nomayor1 Thank you for your comment, Mr N.
Please note that I indicated in my statement above that I'm NOT an expert in this area -- although I speak 4 languages & am probably more of an expert on other geopolitical areas than 99.5% of RUclips viewers. And, I still believe that this was a a helpful introduction.
I also indicated that at least a few of the commenters were quite knowledgable. You apparently believe that you are one of those.
" "Balanced"? When he talks about "Russia's and Iran's international isolation"? The whole Latin America, the whole of Africa, the Saudis, Turkey, India, Pakistan and China, are all with the side of Iran and Russia."
If this is true for any other countries than Iran & China, I'd be surprised. However, I am open to your rather bold & incautious statement being true if the appropriate confirmable evidence & corroboration appeared.
"Clearly it never occurred to you how Russia has not only survived, but in fact has a stronger economy now, than it had before the war in Ukraine, all while the West is decimated by inflation, collapsing banks and sky-rocketing fuel and food prices."
Although I'm not a subject matter authority on Russia, its former colonies/satellites, & its current economy, I am an economist. Your statement about the strength of the Russian economy is, among your other assertions, the closest to being unambiguously preposterous. I'd advise not betting the farm on that sentiment.
As for the reference to "...inflation, collapsing banks and sky-rocketing fuel and food prices....", those statements are not completely, totally ridiculous. I'm modestly concerned about American banks, but I believe that fuel & food prices -- at least in the US -- have stabilized. I'd have preferred to have seen the Fed take action on interest rates sooner, but they don't always heed sound advice from me.
@@rogerforsberg3910 I speak three languages and I have lived and worked in three countries. As said, Russia is certainly not "isolated". You see, the West certainly still lives in the era of colonies and they still view themselves as the center of the world, but these times are long gone. You may want to look up what happened during Macron's last visit and the interview he tried to give with the President of Congo. Or how the President of Namibia responded to the comments of a German politician recently. It's all here on RUclips.
Guess what all other countries and regions mentioned, Latin America, India, Africa etc, have in common: They all suffered for centuries from Western imperialism. Pablo Escobar was an amateur in front of Queen Victoria, who waged TWO WARS against China, in order to enforce the open sale of opium drugs by the British to the Chinese population. That is why none of these regions has aligned with the West in the case of sanctions against Russia, and that is why Russia is doing *More* business now and has a *Bigger* surplus now, than it had before. Because Russia has something that the West never had, nor will ever have: Russia has *Friends*.
I am not making any "assertions" on Russia's economy. Assertions is what you say in your video, from the first word to the last. Everybody can just google and read that Russia's economy is doing just fine. Russia had a GDP reduction of just 2% during 2022, and will have GROWTH in 2023. You know, growth, the word which the West has long forgotten.
Regarding the fuel and food prices, finally, yes, they have "stabilized", at 200% more than they were last year. I live in the West, you know, I live in Britain. The same 6-pack of eggs last year was 45% less. The same loaf of slice bread was last year two british pounds, now it's four. Let alone that frequently, certain vegetables do not exist at all, given that the cost of the energy to grow them has become completely prohibitive.
Finally, that you call "not totally preposterous" the fact that American banks are collapsing again, just proves your denial of reality.
@@nomayor1 Whole of Latin America? That's a joke right? 🤣. Nicaragua, Bolivia, Venezuela and Cuba are not "the whole Latin America". Do you realize most of Latin America still makes most of its money through trade with the USA? You must be a dreamy communist supporter lmao
As always great content. However, I don't see masterworks ads ageing well for youtubers.
Just hope India won't be played out by the US in future as its too close to Russia and Iran. The US using India to counter China rise is too simplistic. The reason being two Asian giants in close proximity will be annihilated if deadly weapons (tactical nuclear weapons too) are to be used and the US will be a happy spectator at another corner of the world just like what happen in Europe now. US is a warmongering expansionist power since its independence. Having created huge suffering to the people in middle east, it now trying to shift its military focus to Asia-Pacific region to contain China with some puppets' help.
India understands US tactics, otherwise it would have already joined the western bloc in sanctioning Russia, and to some extent china too understands that a full out war with india will essentially devastate it's economy even if manages to win in the end, same with india
"Using India" is a fantasy. It's too big and getting bigger at great speed...faster than all other major economies. It has the 3rd largest GDP (USD 12 trillion) when calculated on PPP factors, which is the most accurate way of calculating the real GDP of a country.
The nominal GDP calculation is a farce and a scam...a speculative bubble dependent on forex manipulations.
Bottomline: you cannot "use" or "manage" a 12 trillion dollar economy that will outgrow you soon.
Both India & China are aware of these US designs. In India, we look at it as a way to make USA & China tire each other out - thus helping India. What USA is trying to do between India & China - India itself is doing between USA & China & is presently winning.
India playing its own great game right now
😏i m loving it..
Lay back enjoy
Yeah playing great game with 0 people in server lol you can play that great game alone as much as you can
@@ranfak Europe not being involved creates 0 difference🤡
Thank you for the informative video on some of the underlying business concerns in these countries. 😊
Your transitions to the sponsor part of the video are so smooth that I almost don't skip them
Ha ! They real are smooth.
Almost as slick as his propagandist snark against Russian, for which he should be "bitch slapped" until his face hangs in bloody shreds.
@@TheSkepticalCynic
And then you come along with that !!!!
Hater much?
I suggested the Silk Road and Belt project to Xi Peng many years ago. Getting these trade corridors open is a great idea, too.
You suggested it to him? Tell your story - that's fascinating. How did that come to pass?
@@JasperElvenSky I forgot the occasion, but something China was doing was controversial and the young guns were deployed to defend her on the internet. This was common in those early internet days when comments and email were new phenomena. You needed an IBM PC to participate and those were still rare in China at the time. The time of day they logged on and off suggested their location along with their pro-Chinese scripted point of view. As I was no novice in discussion, having lived with a communist Chinese college student in my home for a time, they would pass me up to their senior discussion leader, I always let the head guy win, but not without challenge. It was to this young person, their leader, that I proposed the rebuilding of the old Silk Road and the opening of ambitious sea trade by building ports. We spent several hours going over the details and I learned a lot in the process. It was entirely a novel idea at the time with most of the countries along the way hostile to China and Chinese interests. It was a rare and memorable breakthrough.
I similarly proposed the HOPE Scholarship Program to Bill Clinton along with Don't Ask Don't Tell, Rules for Freedom of Religion in the Federal Workplace, advocated unified state lawsuits against big tobacco on behalf of cancer victims, deadbeat dad laws, family leave (to Hillary), the Tuskeegee Presidential Apologies and Compensations, set the date for the fall of the Berlin Wall (in 1972--17 years in advance) and film stories with Stephen Spielberg (Star Wars, Close Encounters, E.T.--my name's on Elliot's doodles, Indiana Jones, Independence Day, Explorers, Joan of Arc, Armageddon, Deep Impact, Morning Edition, Touched by an Angel) to improve American spirit and cinematic leadership.
That's a hell of an intermodal (train + road + sea) capacity requirement, I guess, but the way things are going - they better have a more expensive alternative than no alternative at all. Bearing in mind the due proportions, it is more or less the rationale behind the 2 Oceans Way Mercosur's Initiative (linking the Port of Santos-SP in Brazil, to the Pacific Ocean Chilean ports through Paraguay and Argentina).
Map of India is wrongly shown in this video. Pakistan Occupied Kashmir is a part of India and so in Aksai Chin.
Excellent, accurate and balanced video. Very rare,. A lot depends on Iran's cooperation which is compromised by the OIC. The survival of Iran and its historic ties to India rests on Iran's actions, not words, on this.. Hopefully they will make the right choice. India is inescapably the next big power they will have to deal with.
haha.
iran is on day today affair with israel, usa and uk.
they partner with russia and china in a lot of international affairs as well.
they helping russia in the war.
they are with China on middle east peace(against USA s wishes.
it is indias need to be part of the project, spend money to be involved. not iran's.
They are the most powerful military in persian gulf. no slouch.
منظورت چیست که میگویی بقای ایران به تصمیماتش بستگی دار یعنی میگویی ایران قبول نکنددچارمشکل میشود؟منظورتواین است؟
Hahaha look lindu is talking about iran India is the most gando nation alive remember during Trump time 2019 India follows US policy and ban Iranian oil import Iran know hwo to choose between randians and Chinese 😂
It’s a great idea. But none of the countries actually trust each other. I’m waiting for China to make a military power play on Russia for oil, gas and land. In addition, the three countries combined couldn’t find something like that.
a military power play for land? You do realize these are nuclear powers, do you? Nuclear deterrance is real my dude. Thats also why russia wont invade Nato, and more importantly why Nato wont invade russia. (russia would lose against nato, if it had no nuclear weapons.)
As long as Putin in his desparation is selling India and China oil below the $60 cap and below their cost of extraction China doesn't have to do anything. Russia is losing money on every barrel.
Great video. The British are finding it so hard to get over their lack of empire. It's hard to have a global reach with one broken down aircraft carrier. The Caspian Sea route is a reality now and with High Speed trains between China and Russia, isolation is not an issue.
Ski jump carriers are just not worth the cost and effort. Unless you have EMALS or US steam launchers, the planes on your carrier cannot utilize max loadouts. Its far more effective for Russia to use drones and put advanced radars, cruise missiles, and VLS systems on frigattes and corvettes with 2 equaling an Arleigh Burke. Britains 3 QEs are worth it, and of course China's advanced CVs. It wouldn't surprise me if India didn't phase out their CVs and focus on martime patrol aircraft and SAGs.
"It's hard to have a global reach with one broken down aircraft carrier." Yeah, at least the British aircraft carrier floats.
Written by a guy using English language haha But on a serious note, isolation from international markets is always an issue. One can build a "self-sustained" economy only to later realize that they either lack of things or are poorer due to their poor decisions (look at soviet communism).
We trade with the passed Empire and happy to see them do well . DEMOCRATIC COUNTRIES . FREEDOM FROM DICTATORS .🤔
The empire is still there Tadhg, but has been known for decades as the Anglo-American Establishment. Rebranded and changed with the times but still alive and well, and very much running things from Washington and London.
China's position is ambiguous but to the extent that the corridor serves the interest of China, it harms the interest of India.
what it did prevent western evil and selfish plans that you are part of the disinformation instrument.
What Russia needs is Persian Canal!
good reporting. Thanks!
The exemptions from U.S sanctions in the Persian Corridor can be that investment into the Central Asian States economics to develop. Such access could promote outside investment in from India and an alternative to China. The United States did an exemption with the prior government in Afghanistan for the BRI investments in China to give investment in infrastructure and development. India most likely will the major financier for the project, Russia building railroads and Iran as a key connection for negations between the countries involved.
Russia building railroads? With west sanctions on roller wheel bearing Russia cannot even keep their own wagons rolling.
wtf include a terrorist fascist regime in the calculus. Who in his right mind would have included hitlerist regime into long term arrangements in 1944? U living under a rock or are desensitive to bombing like in ww2? geez...armchair geopoliticons
nation and major corporations can't really bypass US sanction if they are involved in any international trade. All the US has to do is threaten to sanction any nation, bank, company etc. that violates the sanctions, thew US will prohibit the violators from conduction any transaction in us dollars and can also sanction anyone who aids the violators. The US fined one French bank a German bank? and an American bank for doing business with Iran or Iranian entities in violation of US law even though the business deals were legal in their countries.
@@howardsimpson489 western sanctions have little impact on Russia. Look at Iran, they have successfully reverse engineered US weapons. Now, they have become a weapon supplier. West needs to rethink their approach.
@@howardsimpson489everything is made in china including raytheon weapons supply chain
Europe will always trade with India, but not if the corridor is Iran-ruzZia, only truth the Suez canal.
India is world's 17 % population!
Soon we are going to be so big market which u can't refuse to loose ! Haha !
For example just a week ago Indian airline AIR india ! ordered world's largest order in aviation history over 470 jets 250 from Airbus and 220 from Boeing ! And 30 jets gonna be on lease !
Other Indian airline's also now annouced that they are going to order new planes ! To compeat Against air india ! And gulf airline's !
Current domestic market leader IndiGo also announced they soon gonna order 500 jets too ! Which still not official though but soon they will! other small airline's also announced they also adding more 50-100 jets respectively!3 milion jobs now created in UK France and America ! Bcz of that air india 100 bilion $ jet deal ! More gonna come !
(Russians and Chinese trying to get some deals also so hope eu and USA keep themselves good in Indian books otherwise no one will see u almost mostly emerging markets fed up with u guys childish trade Sanctions 🤥)
And yeah our neighborhood country's who's also come in top 10 largest population of world ! So imagine what level power Indian market currently possessing ! And the level of trade and investment returns 💪🏻 😁
Are too much !
Take it easy partner, nothing personal, it's just business!
It is nice that they are giving countries and easy target to disrupt trade.
Distrupt trade? Russia and Iran are already in sanctions lol
its amazing how Iran geopolitical location connects almost 40 percent of world population and their markets to each other
Thank you for posting this video and explaining the history behind USSR and Iran. This corridor is a very great idea! I'm honestly excited. With China's involvement I'm longing to see many bike tours or UV mobile bike tours. I used to do bike tours in Amsterdam, and boat and bike tours in Europe and in China. I'm elderly now and need to use a UV mobile bike tour. I wish that we could tour these treasured filled historical places. The Persia Corridor, so nostalgic ... such a deep and meaningful history ... and Russia so mysterious and beautiful!!! Please China, I would willingly work hard to visit these places!!! Please arrange to have tour guides along the belt and road initiative that can speak English!
Birds of a feather tarred together.
People who live in their mother's basements think they are geopolitical experts in the comment section
and that includes you.
It's called sharing opinions and ideas... Just because you're not capable of creating your own original thoughts, it doesn't mean need to talk down to other people..
Well everyone on youtube are experts.If you disagree with their opinions you are labelled a bot.
@@rhino_force7679 ngl, they had us in the first half
i usually like GoodTimesBadTimes, however it's strange to me how you guys simply ignored the (sadly short lived) Iranian democratic period and its overthrow by the west.
Stalin's colonialist aims towards Iran puts another spin on Mossadegh's coup.
No, you are wrong. The idea is too good for India with a twisted tongue.
Remember: US sanction Iran, and India sides with US. So, would Iran trust India? Tell me, to which country does Iran trust its port Chabahar, China or India?
I don't think Iran will allow India to transport its goods across Iranian port and land as Iran has a bone to pick with India. Moreover, India refuses to join BRI while all the other countries in SCO and in BRICS are also mebers of BRI. Or India should pay a hefty price for gambling on the wrong horse, the US.
India had cancelled purchasing Iranian oil on May 2019 in order to comply with the US sanctions on Tehran over its nuclear programme.
To this day, India refuses to import oil from Iran. Unlike China. China continues to bravely import oil from Iran despite Canada's arrest of Huawei's CFO Meng Wanzhou at the behest of the US on 1 December 2018.
Good, clear presentation and I learnt so much. Thank you.
sounds like a lot of bullshit to me ngl
I don't know about that. Seems like rather very specific things he's talking about. I'd like to see you pull out some of the inaccuracies.
@@BaconNationChannel read comments dude:) you will find your answers
@@_Hell_. i cant trust anyones opinion. Everyone out here arm chair geo politicians. I aint gonna start basing my views and opinions by some idiot on the internet. Tell me one thing that discredits any of what was said here
@@BaconNationChannel again, read comments, preferably with likes, people, amd me included, already commented the answers you want
@@_Hell_. I just did, nobody said bullshit about the video. Keep it cryptic bro.
This only makes sense if Russia expects the Bosporus blockade to remain in place long term, or to have their access to the Suez denied to them for some reason. It will never match Suez in terms of cost or efficiency, but that is a moot point if that route is unavailable for political reasons.
Egypt joined BRICS , so suez canal would be open for BRICS countries.
Egypt hasn’t joined BRICS.
@@Mike-gi2oi It didn't but Egypt's Parliament endorses pact to join Brics Bank. Looks like Egypt will need democracy lessons in the near future. You heard it here first, before it became mainstream news 😀
@@spiderone4 and how are you going to give democracy lessons to Egypt? 😂 The same way democracy was dropped from B52s on Iraq or Afghanistan for so many years ? Boom Baam 💥
روسيا لها منطقة صناعية داخل المنطقة الاقتصادية بقناة السويس
I think im experiencing deja vu. Did Caspian report talk about this? or someone else?
EDIT: Amit Sengupta nade a video about this
SHORTCUT= in minut 15.10, using TRAIN from Rusia to Iran to Indic Ocean... You Welcome.-
Ignoring all the other problems with this, the entities involved sound more like fairweather friends than firm partners. I'm skeptical.
As an indian let me tell u that, india russia in past allied military against western powers in cold war… NATO didn’t activate Article 5 when india liberated Goa (from Portugal) in 1961…
Sounds right one minute they are at each other neck the next minute they are cutting a deal that neither side is going to keep.
Actually, I'd call them "badweather friends", and, badweather is usually much exceeded by goodweather. (Thank God!)
While interesting, I'm not convinced this will be the game-changer Russia or Iran is hoping for, and for a very simple reason. Even if absolutely everything goes to plan and this corridor is opened (questionable), you know what you need to cross the Indian Ocean? Ships! Russia doesn't have a trade fleet, nor does Iran. And you know what ships need? Insurance! And guess who controls naval insurance? The West. This Achilles Heel is the element allowing the EU to impose a price cap on Russian energy exports.
The reason why there is no robust insurance "infrastructure" besides western one is that western countries are historically ship owning ones.
Lack of ships and insurance is only a problem in short term. None of those are insurmountable technological challenges but simply a problem of capital.
If Russia survives in the short term, I wouldn't worry about ship insurance.
Guess again.
Chinese and Indian ships will pick the goods. No problem here.
Silly westoid, we do not need boats, the power of Putin and Allah will surely cause boats to materialize, the capital required will surely not just build more oligarchic yachts
To those saying the Chinese will do it, they've proven they don't want Russian goods
And saying the Indians will do it, this will just give India all of the leverage in this arrangement, when they were already going to have most of it
Shell Companies based out of Dubai have already started providing insurances
Excellent report
" Necessity is the mother of Invention "
Very well made video , thanks and congrats
Haha. What does Russia want to trade? Potatoes?
Weapons for India to stands against Pakistan and china, remember Russia is the biggest arm supplier of india plus some oil and tourists and other stuff in exchange for money
@@worldofmix6766 they used to be. Now Russia is an arms importer until the money runs out and they have another 1990s style collapse.
@@tobiwan001 STFU what about tanks or fighter jets parts?
@@worldofmix6766 I think the negative image of tanks blowing up and stalling on parade will have just about killed profitable orc military exports.
The Axis of Fail
Who says Russia has failed? You're wrong!
Got a better grasp of the areas. Thanks.👍👍👍
Thanks for the wholesome research and analysis. Greetings from Iran. 👋
Sounds like a 3- Way Suicide Pact...🤣
India needn't "bypass" Suez in anyway because now a port within an entire Special Economic Zone is being built there due to Indo - Egyptian relations 😅
Iran is strategically great country.its only 1 country in the world which is connected by indian ocean and caspean sea.
Full support this
Thanks, Good Times Bad Times.
Yes, the Soviets maneuvered to remain in Iran after the war, seeking access to the Persian Gulf. But the US also had strategic interests in Iran, and accomplished those interests covertly, in the overthrow of democratically elected Prime Minister Mossadegh in 1953. Odd, why don't you mention that? Mossadegh was poised to nationalize Iranian oil assets and adopt a modernization program that the Shah only pursued in a token way. If you're going to do history, do it right, please.
The only thing standing in the way of the new trade route is Irans ability to maintain stability. The large Azerbaijani population that lives in Iran are thought to be proxies, ready to inflict damage on the routes within Iran. Wrt India, it simply never forgets. Every sanction the west has ever imposed on india is clear to the politicians in new Delhi. As are every single weapon sale to Pakistan. If the west can travel back in time and change history, it'll be the end of russian-india relations.
Lol, dont look western media too much, azari people are iranian as a half azari i know they support regime the most, and even country of baku will not be there for a long time......😉
@@MerajZargar The last few explosions in Iran were traced to azerbaijanis
@@12villages from republic of baku yes, there will be a war between us for sure, but idk when
@@MerajZargar In the Republic of airan, in Tabriz itself, the flags of South Azerbaijan are being hung to the fullest.
If the Republic of airan even looks askance at Azerbaijan, nothing will remain of it.🤣
@@MerajZargar Azari he 😂
This trade corridor seems a bit ridiculous - to get goods from India to Russia as proposed, it'd involve transporting to an Indian port, transshipping to sea relatively briefly only to get back off in Iran, changing medium to road/rail to get the Northern Iran, only to transship yet again for a brief distance to switch transport medium yet again once arriving on the periphery of Russia. That is a minimum of five switches of transport medium for a relatively short route, all the while China is doing its upmost to make journeys ten times longer between western China and western Europe without any transport medium changes whatsoever. But that's not what makes it risky, just very ineffectively and costly to run.
What really derails it is having the (long term) most embargoed nation in the world act as the main intermediary, somewhat needlessly. Goods could simply come by rail between Russia and India via the central Asian republics, if only India could get along on a basic level with either China or Pakistan - that isn't a small ask, but it seems more plausible than this proposal. A trading block involving three nations seems relatively simple, until those three include the most protectionist/highly tariffed nation in the world (India) and the two most sanctioned nations in the world (Russia and Iran) - it's quite possibly the most difficult combination of three nations you could pick, even grabbing nation's names out of a hat by random seems more likely to draw an easier combination. This venture will only see activity out of desperation, practically any other option would be easier, even starting trade via Iraq and Turkey (cutting out two transshipments and one heavy embargoed nation).
Also, who is going to pay for a sizable fleet of cargo ships to be built in the Caspian Sea? Once it is built, it is a very single-use asset; if there was ever a change in the political winds in any of the three countries, this fleet cannot be taken out of the Caspian and used elsewhere, they become utterly useless, worse than a dead investment but a costly asset to upkeep/dispose of. Considering the trade circumstances present right now are arguably created by short term (and radical) events e.g. the most major land war in Europe since ww2, that is strong grounds for saying these conditions are very temporary. At least with the cargo ships in the Suez, they can be reassigned to practically any route; investment-wise, it is far less risky to send goods between India and Russia that way. I wouldn't invest my money on setting the proposed route up for sure. Would you?
Climate change and ecological awareness could preclude even considering the landlocked Caspian sea.
Man! You are so wrong on so many facts that this big para of yours is useless.
@@BlackHawkTejas Name five. Also, I made multiple paragraphs, not a single 'para' - try not to make grammar errors while lazily burning somebody.
@@s2k997 Oh! We have a self proclaimed grammar nazi here, there are more than 5, so its waste of time to even point it out.
@@BlackHawkTejas LOL put up or shut up
India's INSTC can also help make South & East Asian countries sell their goods cheaply to Central Asia & Europe, by using Indian ports as the transit zones on India's Eastern coast, thus not having to navigate via sea all along India's tip near Sri Lanka.
They offload their containers on India's Eastern side closest to Malacca straits, the containers travel via train to India's Western port of Mumbai in 1 day, thus saving up to a week in sea shipping time. Then the short shipping leg from Mumbai to Chabahar happens in a couple days. Over all, the time reduced in shipping from South-East Asia to Europe or Central Asia will be almost 10 days.
Europe is not going to accept stuff coming from Russia or Iran atm
Are you in the logistics business? Or just dreaming?
@@PahatRouthe is
Ha! Ha! are you in the logistics business? I certainly doubt so!
Very interesting, TY for the history as well as the current 2023 analysis.
good report.
covered the subject in details
thanks from California
Thank you for shedding light on this project I didn't know of. However, you suggest this revival is designed to escape Western sanctions. In the light of recent developments in Iran and China, and Pak-India relations becoming pretty tense, I see there a way for Russia to completely short-circuit Europe and provide an alternate route that completely bypasses the Mediterranean. From there, Russia would get the means to ship its production to India and China without getting any close to European ports. To me, it sounds like another means of starving Europe in the very long run from any form of Russian fuel, grain, fertilisers, metals and uranium. Sounds like it's a huge threat to the West as well as a formidable opportunity for Iran to kick out the Amerivan sanctions.
Iran is also sanctioned.
So Russia still has issues with a lack of ships for shipping.
@@allangibson8494 That's exactly what I'm saying. "Sanctionned" countries are allying against US and attack it on what it has most dependant on them: resources and trade. USA are sanctionning Iran, Russia and China, but its entire economic system relies on the commodities provided by these countries as a whole. Ditching the Suez Canal to bypass Europe is a way of establishing self-sufficient channels, first step before dropping trade across the Pacific. Once trade with the USA and Europe have been dumped, you still have more than 80% of the world population and a commerce based on commodities, not the abused trust in worthless paper money, thus re-establishing the good old principle of "value". Establishing a route that bypasses the American-controlled Suez and Panama is an obvious step.
@@RegisMichelLeclerc The United States doesn’t need Russia, China or Iran - alternative sources of supply are available. Russia & China need European and American MARKETS more than those markets need Russian and Chinese goods. China has spent two decades manufacturing below cost to capture these markets - and that leaves China vulnerable as it lacks alternative markets (as they are discovering now).
@@allangibson8494 Make sure the USA doesn't buy massively oil and gas from Russia,, Iran or stolen from Iraq or Syria, put back that ban on Russian/RosAtom uranium. Nah, you don't depend at all on those countries.
BTW, China Zero-COVVID measures are just a successful test of an embargo from China on the Pacific area (US/Ca/Jp/Kr/AuNZ). Russia is selling ordders of magnitude more than ever (in value) to EU and US, Iran is kicking US out and Syria is about to do the same, while China is getting rid of the toxic US sovereign debt at the worst possible moment for US (next round of USDT will be at a very high interest rate, no-one want to be seized from the money they lend...).
So, yeah, USA doesn't need anyone to return to stone age, you're totally right. If the US needs energy for its enterprises at a competitive price, that's a very different story. If US needs light in every home, home for everyone and transport means for the people, well... not in this century.
@@RegisMichelLeclerc Not anymore Russia isn’t. The Russians oil sales have imploded over the last three months.
Russian Uranium deliveries to China and Iran are up.
The US and EU have been shifting their “low cost” manufacturing to other countries for the last year - which is what the Chinese are complaining about now - no lockdowns but no orders either. Chinese ports are VACANT. Vietnam, Thailand and Bangladesh are booming.
Taiwan is shifting its manufacturing to the United States in preference to China (because it’s easier and more secure and robotic assembly lines don’t care about pay rates and income tax).
All of the West’s horror fears are coming to fruition, all in slow motion!! What an amazing time to witness the American Empire’s end. Somehow we missed the British one, when it slipped beneath the waves!!
Joining forces against an arrogant, self-centered West is not terribly wrong, but finding common ground enough to sustain that alliance is another thing.
This would make sense if land freight was cheap. However that isn’t the case. Cargo shipping is by far the cheapest method of freight that’s ever existed and by far a huge gap between the two.
Was thinking the same, not to mention the time to unload the boat, and load the train. Why go across the Caspian, that's 2 more rounds of loading and unloading. Insurance is also a massive thing to consider, this land route goes through some risky territory. Yes, Egypt could be, but that is just one country that needs to have some guarantees hammered out, and the freight never leaves the boat, far easier to jack a truck. This is a pipe dream. One last thing to think of when trying to see into the future. These very complex, multi point of failure supply lines were shown to be very bad point of risk, uncertainty and danger to countries' economies with Covid. The U.S. still the largest consumer market is pulling back manufacturing. Trends in tech development are going the route of using abundant materials that most countries have to create new technologies or improve what we have. Two reasons for this, cheap and easy raw materials tend to be easier on the local environment and countries don't have to worry about some regional war harming their economies as they have the stuff in their borders or perhaps their direct neighbor has them. It just smarter. People still operating like the 2030's global trade and resource market will look like the 2000's are not paying attention to the details in the corners or they are in countries that have inferiority complexes and so refuse to see the change just as they have started to get competent at the economy of the 2000's.
That's going to have to be one big canal cut through Iran to make this work.
It's a railway
Sometimes, I only listen to these videos just get the correct pronunciation of names and places. 😉
I think if India and China stabalize their relations and agree to grow parallel in separate zones of influence without disrupting each other, then we will see the formation of a China-India-Pakistan-Iran-Russia bloc
Impossible. Not even in dreams. China has propped up Pakistan as a way to distract India. Iran is ambiguous and Russia is now the deputy of China.
Correction Russia is not loosing the Ukranian war and already has annexed the sea of Azov. 2024
"Moscow has a new fear of total isolation"
Hey clown, have you seen lately the map of BRICS members and candidates to membership?
A great discussion, the League of nations after the WW1 established the ideas of outlawing the notion of conquering and stealing land from other countries and this started the planning and unwinding of western colonies but which was paused due to the German/Japan/Italy axis which started to conquer other nations in defiance of signed agreements but the returning of land to the original native peoples began again after the WW2 with the UN Charters signed by all nations. (all except Russia and China who continued to oppress and conquer)
us, Canada, NZ and Australia have native peoples too.
@@fullcircle4723 and today they are free in this modern world, free to choose their own paths
@@hawklord100 thats easier said than done.
@@hawklord100 Your neck muscles twitched while typing this. Right?
It means, your body knows how big a hypocrite you are.
@@ndahiya3730 The human race and society has evolved Ivan, you madman is still living in the 19th century, today it is the 21st century and in the era of the UN all nations agreed not to conqour and thieve land from others, all except of course the Russian madmen LOL
Russia is getting boring, when will someone join them?
Syria is out without even doing anything...
They still got North Korea and Belarus! lol.
@@Alexandra-zp3gr I doubt North Korea can do anything except defend itself
@@Joso997 I doubt they can even do that effectively. Their only defence is to drop a ton of missiles on Seoul. Like Russia with its nuclear threats, just a bunch of hot air.
russia, belarus, iran - weird old autocratic regimes against the generation zed who depose them
@@garygraham8373 Let's hope so. 🤞