As a Kyokushin Kai practitioner, I must say that we need not stop the kumite after getting punched on the face unless it incapacitate us. In a street fight or self defence scenario its very likely people will punch or sucker punch us on the face. We need to condition ourself not to stop or break the flow of the fight. Its my personal point of view though.
Agreed. Because for me, martial arts should also be more about defending yourself in real life. Since Kyokushin practitioners have the mentality that "I was taught that we are not supposed to punch on the face", then it starts to sink in to them that they're not expecting punches on the face. Only kicks. As a result, they forget how to defend their face from punches and if they do get punched, they will be "shocked" and go "Hey! That's against the rules! Oh wait, I'm not in a dojo or kumite."
@@Shadowrulzalways Well, true. And I would agree that they'll defend themselves better compared to those with no martial arts background. It's just that, their art failed to emphasize on that part. So I believe that boxers and MT practitioners could defend themselves better in a real fight.
As someone who practices Muay Thai, that karate dude is a fucking tank, he ate 2 hard leg kicks like they were nothing, and obviously he got punched and had to have time out, but a little bit of conditioning and he’s a fuckin beast
Good point. He really copped those brutal leg kicks like a trooper didn't he? Aside from his conditioning he is rugged af and has technique and balance. That first roundhouse kick he throws at 43:00 has power and is scary quick....🤔
Well, you can't do head conditionning or you end up like Muhammad Ali .. to me kyokushin guys are scared to get into real fights. And it's comprehensible, they don't train to fight, they are trained to get hits in the legs and body.
Kyokushin karate had a reputation of building someone to be as hard as a literal rock Muay Thai had a reputation of having one of the strongest kicks in the world Having their legs trained the the absolute limit This battle is nothing more than a great spectacle between an immovable object and an unstoppable object
@@hereandthere4751 yes Muay Thai are trained in literal hell conditions But what I mean is kyokushin karate trains you to have more endurance by getting hit more often Same as Muay Thai Kyokushin: durability // endurance/// Muay Thai: durability /// endurance// They both Excell at different things but are almost the same
HE WAS JUST LUCKY THE MUAYTHAI GUY DIDN'T GO FOR THE FACE AND WASN,T USING PUNCHES... NOT EVEN A SINGLE JAB .... IN A REAL MATCH THE KARATEKA WOULD HAVE BEEN OBLITERATED IN 15 SECONDS
This is really the first time I’ve seen a karate fighter hold their own respectably against a Muay Thai fighter. Props to both! Those spinning roundhouses were VERY well executed!!
@@zhang4927 because it is different from standard shotokan karate (the ones american children learn). kyokushin karate is not based on points and is full contact, the teacher Mas Oyama had the nickname of "Godhand" and could dish out some serious damage.
Karate gets a bad rap because of the numerous Mcdojos out there But then to a soldier. Boxing is a weapon for the desperate All bout how you use it of course. But old karate fighters in the 60s had a problem where they wouldnt protect their face so they got beat easily
He didnt lose, the muay thai fighter should be disqualified for violating twice the rules they were obviously using (no face punches) , beside that he looked quite helpless
Michael Terrell II that’s not conditioning, it’s just plain stupid if you practice getting kicked. Watch the match between kitsongrit and rick roofus, then you will understand the power of leg kicks.
Not a lot. Had he not folded to a punch to the face, this leg would've given out after a dozen more. MT dude could kick a lot more than the KK guy could eat.
@@Corvin666Not sure about that bro , that guy bones are all microfractured and grown over they literally hit each other's legs and arm with bamboo poles to increase bone density, most fighters I totally agree with you, but legit Karate practitioners from Japan, I don't know
@@Corvin666 Also I don't think they're supposed to be punching to the face here, and did you notice the MT guy limping after I think he would've ended up damaging his leg, just saying
@@marwan9835 Actually they're purpose is to affect the sciatic nerve causing that leg to become useless, muscle swelling is just a side affect, my point wasn't so much that it damages bone but that they train themselves in ways that let them push way beyond most fighters limits against things like leg kicks, the real masters anyway
You could really see the difference in power/technique the Muay Thai fighter had in his punches. If he was allowed to clinch, elbow and knee, this fight would have been over in much shorter time.
ผมเป็นคนไทย ที่ฝึกมวยไทย อยากจะบอกว่า นักมวยไทยที่เห็นนั้น ยังไม่ได้ใช้ทักษะครบถ้วนเลย เข่าและศอกของเขาถูกห้ามใช้ด้วยซ้ำ ส่วนนักคาราเต้คนนั้นก็สุดยอดมาก ที่รับเตะต่ำไปได้แล้วยังเดินปกติ น่านับถือมากครับ I am a Thai. And I trains Muay Thai .I see that the Muay Thai He hadn't used all of his skills yet. His knees and elbows were forbidden. By the way, that karate man is awesome. He received a low kick twice and He was still walking normally. Very respectable. This is a Good fight.
yes, this is 100%. Full on with knees and elbows and grappling allowed, it would have been over much quicker. Still, as you say, the karate practitioner did an excellent job!
srs, muay thai is not exactly a martial art in thailand, its what people do in bar fights also, no idea why the karate guy didn't check leg kicks and just ate them
The black belt is a kick master. His spinning back kicks are beautifully executed on point real sharp. But the Thai dude with that left round house following with a straight left that was a real vicious move.
Alexander Wingeskog it depends on the style of karate this is (I’m gunna butcher the name) koyushin karate id say one of the deadliest stand up martial arts and they don’t teach punches to the face but they would rather have their practitioners kick their opponents head think about why risk breaking your hand in a fight because they train and fight bare knuckle
Dude been hit over and over again but stood still dang ive seen plenty of them with black belts went limp after only taking 1 leg kicks.. Kyoukushinkai is the real deal and of course muay thai is still up there with its quick and fast executions and pure vicious combo. Mad respect to both of them.
Especially since in Kyokushin karate, banned the enemy head hit with fist! This is forbidden, this is imbibed in the warrior, because if they were hit on the head there, there would be fatal accidents! Of course, if someone lands an illegal punch, it doesn't matter if it was allowed or not here, the other person won't defend against it out of reflex! They smash 2-3 or more bricks with one blow in kyokushin, a skull bone couldn't resist that. That's why it's banned the head hit with fist.
“He held his own”- wtf, he won the fight, this was under Kyokushin rules, the Muay Thai guy was getting his ass handed to him and decided to just start punching him in the face… 😄
For those who are oblivious. This fight was not supposed to hit on the face or head only body. The Muay Thai guy was constantly hitting the Karate guy's face
@@analysisjunkie9154 me as a kyokushin karate martial artist, only face kicks are allowed in this type of official fights punches on head are foul, but there are head punches in karate but it can only be performed in street fighting or in dangerous situations which may cause death
MT guy kept aiming those kicks to the thigh area though which can absorb the blows better. But if he aimed for the shins I'm sure it would've felt different.
Its kyokushin, a diferent style than the obe you see in films and schools, its also much more viable. I trained it only for 6 years so I only know the basics, I also modified it a little bit to protect my face a bit more. I was made fun by a friend who trains mma, supposedly he used to be very good at it, I say supposedly as when we squared up on the ring (a friendly fight to just see if karate is as useless as people believe it to be) He was jumping around, landing few weak hits on the core etc, I hit him maybe 5 times total, I tried to hit him 5 times, every time after a block, after 5th punch he decided that maybe karate wasn't so useless afterall haha
Respect. I fought a Kyokushin fighter and it was tough. They train their bodies well. And the discipline of the Thai fighters is above and beyond. Great display of technique and mutual respect.
@@mattball7074 I recommend boxing if it's just self defense. Boxing is more practical in a street fight. You would build stamina, reflexes, power, speed ect. Muy tai I'd say is more competitive than a lot of other styles imo. However that's more so mastering kicks than knee, elbow or hands. So I suggest boxing because it's overall better fundamentals and more practical. Plus its easier to apply to other styles in my opinion
They both are PROFESSIONAL & GOOD...the karate black belt guy is well-trained and took leg hits like a rock....while the Muay Thai kickboxer showed us why MMA loves Thailand ❤️😭😂
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That's the unfortunate part of Kyokushin, they don't strike to the head thus many haven't acquired skills to defend against head strikes unless they have taken up boxing on the side. As someone who has trained with a KKS practitioner, there is absolutely no doubt that their legs kicks are equally on par to Muay Thai and they also have a very strong trunk/core as they primarily do hand strikes to the torso only...
Kyokushin’s rule of no head contact is a tough rule to engage, especially if you’ve been training to go to the dome. Those leg kicks were definitely hard. You see the MT Man limping already
@Antonito Bianchinito most K1 guys are Dutch but okay, as a Dutch style kickboxer, I’ve always struggled with Fighters whose main style is Muay Thai, you say they don’t kick hard but they do, they kick harder than most of the Dutch guys. Also I’m pretty sure Ninjitsu is the best martial art since it’s literally for assassination, just poison your opponent. But being for real, Tai chi and Wing chun are one of the most made fun of martial arts there are, there’s an MMA guy in China destroying these so called “Masters” in Tai chi and Wing chun.
I’m surprised with how well the Karate guy did. As a practitioner of Taekwondo, I’m not oblivious to the fact that both Taekwondo and Karate have had their combat effectiveness nulled over the years. He did a really good job against him. Muy Thai is a far superior martial art. Modern Karate and Taekwondo are good martial arts to be used as a stepping stone for a more combat focused one.
Because this is kyokushin karate. It's full-contact, with a heavy focus on conditioning and sparring. If there's a style of karate that can hold its own, this is the one.
I saw the superior type of karate throughout the fight until the blow to the face, all of us who fight in this modality know that this is an issue because you try to neglect your face to focus on defending your trunk
When I stopped doing muay Thai, I didn't do any martial for about 3 years unless you count heavy bag drills. When I decided to get back into it, I enrolled in wing chun and taekwondo and did that for about 2 years before returning to muay thai. Taekwondo really helped my kicks which were my weakness in Muay Thai. I highly recommend 1year of taekwondo to anyone considering Muay Thai
The problem with Kyokushin is the lack of head strikes. He's conditioned his body, but because they never strike to the head he let it completely open.
The biggest disadvantage of Kyokushin is that you're not allowed to punch or strike the head of your opponent with your hands. If you don't practise that you won't develop the necessary timing or feeling for the right distance.
Exactly also the distance control is completely off, Karate kyokushin is very unrealistic, because if you try to get in the punching range of a real striker with your hands down, without any worry and zero head movement you will end up KOed. Also Getting so close without worrying about grappling or clinching again very unrealistic. And they say that this is the strongest karate, very sad
@@user-cn7wy7xx5k On the other hand they learn to kick very hard and they're used to take hits. If you combine Kyokushin with boxing you end up with a pretty useful combination. Bas Rutten i.e. started out as a Kyokushin practitioner.
@@user-cn7wy7xx5k total agree with you I trained in kyokushin for 5 years and fought in a few state and national full contact tournaments, I started to train in Muaythai and I found out that I had no defense for head punches and carried my hands low. Basically had no boxing at all,
Every martial art should take hits to the head. Its ridiculous to practice an art and not know how to defend or take a punch to the face. That art is useless.
The bold straight forward movement is because of long time training without head strikes, when a strong cross would stop the charge cold... The stationary stiffness is the polar opposite of what you need to avoid KO.
yeah.... training blind kicks only is a KO sentence... you will get hit in the face by someone who knows what he's doing if you keep throwing blind kicks.
Жесткость корпуса связана с тем, что удары в голову разрешены ногами, если ты опустишь голову вперёд то тут же получишь коленом, чтобы ты ее опустил тебя будут бить по животу, корпусу, в основном в солнечное сплетение, ногам, но конечная цель именно эта, нас так учили, и многочисленные видео с ютуба подтвердят мои слова, если ты отянешь голову назад то получишь маваши гери, удар ногой в четыре раза сильнее чем удар рукой, но медленнее, в частности походив на бокс четыре года, я их видел, и уворачивался даже успешно, но на соревнованиях часто есть нокауты этими ударами, мой тренер по киокушинкай бил меня так, что после того как я пришел на бокс, мне когда наносили удары боксёры да ещё и в перчатках, казалось что они раз в пять слабее бьют чем на каратэ, но удары в голову, могут сильно тебя покалечить, отправить в нокаут, выбить челюсть, нос сломать, и этого не избежать, в итоге пришлось оставить этот вид единоборства из-за высокой травмоопастности, то же самое было и с киокушинкай, он ничем не уступает ни боксу не тайскому боксу, это очень жёсткий стиль, где каждый удар может быть последний, ходил на него 7 лет пока не начались серьезные проблемы со здоровьем
You can really hear the impact that ended the fight and the fighter knows that hit connected. Respect for a good fight but also knowing when to stop the fight. Neither fighter needs to be injured beyond recovery.
@@andremiranda9599 which's rule say that can't hit in the head??? If there's one that's not fair for muay thai! Kyokushin karate is already make us a strong body and lots of protective poses
As a Muay Thai practitioner who just some hours ago took a good amount of lowkicks.... I respect a lot that karate fighter for receiving those lowkicks like if they were nothing
in Kyokushin, its more customary to just take the low kicks rather than checking them. so they end up being able to take a lot of kicks just as a side effect. Learning to check more often would do them untold benefits
Ahahaha Muay Thai vs karate but Myay Thai guy is not allowed to use punch in head,Knees, ellbows or sweeps what a ret,rded rules to make this even for both ahahaha yeah lets reduce Muay Thai on half of his all moves :D
The karate guy is attacking with a full open body. Yes kyokushin depends on kinda making the body unbreakable but this guy is too much showing off how strong his body is
It’s too bad that his face wasn’t strong. Lol I’m a Muay Thai fighter so I’m on his side. I’m glad the karate guys face got hit and the MT guy didn’t get disqualified.
I couldn't agree more that Karate guy is too much showing off. Walk with his student clap and underestimate his enemy. How the fuck can this guy be a teacher.
@@googlelord1678 These two men fought bravely with a martial art they believed in. If Muay Thai loses, Muay Thai is weak! If Kyokushin Karate loses, Kyokushin Karate is weak! So they say. It must have taken a great deal of determination, courage, and self-belief. I really respect the courage, determination, and power of belief of both of them.
Why would anyone want to watch drama fights when they could watch two skilled and respectful fighters go at it? Hands down one of the best fights on RUclips.
I m a former kick boxer.My coach(André Rigianni) was teaching as well Muay thaï than Kyokushinkaï(but separately,naturally).Both are relatively similar.Kyokushin is probably the most brutal form of Karate do and it s the closest form from kickboxing.Personnaly i praticed only Muay Thaï with him.
@@anthonybrogan390 you cannot condition your face in kyokushin, smashing rocks and trees with the fist are part of some trainings. Fists can smash face bones,for real. The only part left to guard is the face.
Bblurre now that you say that, it does kinda look like he scratched himself or poked his eye from blocking the kick. I don’t even think the punch afterwards hit. Nice catch. Especially with the way they were checking on him that’s not the kinda check for when someone is knocked out or tko’ed. Also if he was actually hit hard in the head you don’t over dramatically fall like he did. Your legs just give out. I don’t think he actually got tko’ed here.
Why these Muay Thai vs Karate type fights is stupid? Well, you can't be labeling it as Muay Thai vs Karate if either one of the fighters will be limited from using his combat system to follow the other fighter's fight rules. It is not MT vs Karate, it's two warriors fighting; Not a fight between styles but between individual fighters. Here the MT guys can't do much of his moves. No clinch fighting etc. If that is the case, is it really MT vs Karate? So how about this... have them use Kudo like armour for the sake of safety, then have them go at it using all their techniques except their killing moves. Then it will truly be a style vs style fight. Minimum rules like the first UFC.
I am not surprised because I always remember Andy Hug, Francisco Filho , Glaube Feitosa... These guys were top K-1 fighters , and they came from kyokushinkai karate and fought against best kickboxers in the world ... That moment when Francisco Filho knocked out Ernesto Hoost daaayum
Exactly, I think there are a load of kids in this comments section or people newer to martial arts that have no idea about anything but muay thai.... it's so massively glorified now. Despite Kyokushin and other arts having many people represent and beat Thai guys at the highest levels.
@@naif8188 Mr Muay Thai? Beat Mr Kyokushin? Wow... Never heard of those fighters. One art doesn't beat another, just the individual fighters and how they trained for that fight, being mindful of the rules that may help or hinder one fighter or the other.
the most devastating blows of Muay Thai are elbows, knees, high kicks, removing these weapons is like fighting with one hand. however, the challenges between disciplines in my opinion must allow all the techniques foreseen in each to be carried, not that one must lose in favor of the other since the second is favored.
This does indeed make it difficult. Take wing chun for example. It is banned from MMA in most cases because some of the moves are based around attacks such as eye gouging. One might argue that makes it more effective. But then we'd have to ask what about a style that's based around kicking someone's genitals. It's a slippery slope from art to brawling
The Thai fighter is allowed to kick the head/high kicks, knees and elbows are allowed. Kyokushin competition just doesn't allow for head strikes with the upper body.
@@Kthomasritchie Actually, they kinda are, MT is one of the staple martial arts to learn in MMA and in the top 5 effective/winrates. The only other striking styles that are similarly effective in the top 5 are boxing and non-MT kickboxing. Not saying it's all their primary/origin styles, but MT is one of the most commonly established bases to learn in for MMA.
I’ve always said this, karate guys have incredible defense when it comes to their body but I feel like they freeze up on their forms when it’s interrupted with a blow to the face so I’m sure they’re not use to taking blows to the face too often, not saying they don’t get hit in the head but it’s not like they’re trained to take tons of blows to the head like Muay Thai or boxing
They are used to taking blows to the face as in kicks, but not punches/slaps/elbows. Those are the competitive rules and also how they spar. I trained into kyokushin/kenpo and you just don't spar nor compete with hand strikes to the head. And when we did do it as part of training it was in separate training sessions for boxing/kickboxing/vale tudo (MMA).
You wouldn't exactly be wrong. Simulation is huge but it has to be as real as possible. Only Simulation doesn't include a direct blow to the face at full strength with no gloves or head gear. Had there been gloves on here, that blow to the face may not have ended the match when it did...but we obviously want realism here to prove anything whether about the effectiveness of the styles and/or the fighters themselves. Now the one thing I'll give Karate guy, is that on at least 2 occasions, he cornered the Thai fighter and in a less controlled match up/scenario (like on the street) he could've and would've kept throwing flurries and likely would've connected a decent hits. That doesn't necessarily mean Thai guy couldn't have survived the flurries though either. Despite the outcome here, it proved a very worthy and pretty even match up. Both fighters were able to show strong points of their training and discipline! Respect to both!
Muay thai vs. Karate.... Yet, the MT practitioner cannot clinch, knees nor elbows? good clinch in MT is equivalent to black belt of Karate and BJJ, so why remove it? To shwocase and give the Karate guy a handicap?
you forget the fact sports Karate removed elbow and takedowns, throws, locks and clinch. Karate is a free hand fighting style against weapons that was developed after Meiji restoration leading to ban of weapons.
@GlasgowBlueBear1690 Yep, until he took a punch to the face, which if you'd recall is the most common and fundamental strike that most striking martial artists use
Lemmy No it's stupid defense. Lower kick have to defense with the right position (see in muay thai defense position). If not, the lower kick will ruin the calf and cannot walk properly in longer round.
You can body condition to the point where body/leg shots aren't a concern unless you're taking them in the same place over and over. Kyokushin and Uechi-Ryu are two styles that put a lot of effort into being able to take hits.
He kept kicking his legs and it didn’t seem to work. But when he kicked and punched him in the face it did. He was so focused on his legs he forgot to block his face. I didn’t know you could take breaks in a fight like that.
Even though the Thai was only aloud to use half of his stand up ability, this is some of the most effective striking I’ve seen come from karate, it’s such a good martial art to learn to strike if you pick the right school.
This was dope! Much respect to both practitioners. But one can think just how devastating the Muay Thai fighter’s round houses would of been if he choose the calf instead of the upper Thai once he saw how sturdy his stance was from the first kick.
@@Stopstalkingmenarokkurai there is a Karate fight league that’s been out for a little while now. (I don’t remember the name off the top of my head) I think if the Muay Thai fighter faced one of those guys I’m mentioning from the fight league, I think it’ll go the distance. But your point definitely holds merit when it comes to over all Muay Thai and Karate regardingto stamina.
This video is a great example of the potential karate has against other martial arts. Kyokushin fighter did very well. Both did well actually. I'm glad a lot of people here now can see that too.
See that the fight was ended in two hits from Muai Tai guy, and that karateka couldn't accomplish anything with his kicks and punches to the torso? It's fairly obvious here who has taken damage and who hasn't. Karate is a sport, Muai Tai is a way to beat people up.
@@meyearsago-lc8bq Just two hits? You only watched the end of the video, right? During the whole fight, the one who attacked the most was the Muay Thai fighter and the karateka tanked all the blows until the end. Apparently the other guy poked him in the eye. Both of them didn't seem to be affected by any blows until then. And whenever he had an opening to attack, the karateka returned with the same aggressiveness. If that rolling thunder had landed, your precious Muay Thai fighter would have passed out in an instant.
the rules are rule if you agree to fight with some rule you should respect the rule beacause your opponent dose not expect you break them and when you break the rule its disrespect to every one
@@spidermoon3574 when the rules are not hit the face and i kick him first then punch him in face same will happen because he is suprised he dont see it coming.
Every time I see a martial art vs Muay Thai, it is mostly the rules of the challenging martial art. Getting punched in the face is one thing, taking an elbow and a knee to your kidneys and then another knee to the gut is a whole other experience. I do dig that form of Karate, respect to the late Andy Hug and GSP.
You can use both elbows and knees in kyokushin, dont think this would be a surprise for the karate fighter , unlike 2 punches to the face which obviously violated the rules they were using , otherwise the muay thai fighter looked quite helpless without them
@@sulejmansulejman1460 dude then don’t bother calling it Muay Thai when most of Muay Thai attacks is banned, not surprised ? Dude got punch in the face two time and lost, imagine a knee or elbow to the face. This will be over in an instant.
@@potatoehead4405 the only banned thing is a punch to the face due to absence of gloves , which is why the fight was over , and he didnt lose , fight was over because muay thai fighter violated rules and injured him , let me punch you 2 times in a face with bare knuckles , i will watch you continue fighting. As i said before , karateka can use elbows and knees as well, same as he could punch muay thai fighter to the face , but this was obviously prohibited.
@@potatoehead4405 the only difference between muay thai and karate is that you dont have gloves in karate , which is why you cant punch to the face , otherwise its 100% identical , including knees , elbows , even clinch is some styles of karate (Ashihara) Name other prohibited muay thai technique ..)
@@potatoehead4405 im not saying karate is superior to muay thai, both have its own advantages , karateka has a lot more tough body , and muay thai fighters are better prepared to protect their face , but in this particular fight karate fighter is obviously stronger.
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mister lister the sister fister it’s still Muay Thai no matter how you dice it. Muay Thai is not the ultimate and is able to lose like any other fighting style. Accept it and move on
@@adandyguyinspace5783 dude muay thai,kun khmer and lethwei are the most practical striking fighting styles in history as their are barley any restrictions especially in lethwei where its bareknuckle and headbutts are allowed quit dickriding karate if karate was based more on reality rather than doing katas and no punches or strikes to the head it would definitely be a more popular fighting style
Aden ngo Shotokan Karate is the most practiced martial art in Japan. Karate in general is the most practiced martial art in the world including TaeKwonDo. If Muay Thai worked so well then why is no one, absolutely no one, learning it for self defense? Because it’s a sport art. It’s not meant for self-defense. There’s videos upon videos of people using Karate in self defense on RUclips. I’m not entertaining this conversation anymore. Stop living in a black and white world, it’s an infantile and limiting way of thinking.
Great video of both very good fighters! Kyokushin used to allow punches and elbows to the head but it caused too much damage to the practitioners because of bare knuckle fighting. They incorporated this rule in tournaments. Thats probably how muay Thai met in the middle here - no punches to the head, and no mitts.
In boxing the gloves can cause more long term damage than bare knuckle. Lots of padding reduces surface damage. Protects the hands from breaking and allow the boxer to pummel the head many times before the fight is over. A bare hand can only punch so hard to the right areas. Jaws and skulls can smash hands. The face surface can only take a limited number of punches before it’s too damaged to continue. Boxing gloves can shake the brain many many times before the match is over.
I think this clip is a perfect example of why it’s important to treat martial arts for what they are: self-defense and physical conditioning. The sporting aspect of them is great, and the various rules makes things interesting. But, training to fight by those rules can limit one’s ability to fight and handle blows in a real life scenario. You cannot expect an opponent in a street fight to abide by the rules you’re used to. That karate guy was very impressive; he ate those kicks for lunch and had plenty of room for more. But since he wasn’t used to head strikes, he went down hard when he got one. Had he been conditioned to handle them, I’m confident he would’ve won.
@@bored-bt4nn Well look where thinking got you, fuck sake watch a single muay thai fight and you'll see clinch, kness,elbows, which were all left out here.
It's because most fights are designed to entertain the audience, traditional Muay Thai fights are over quick. When you allow Muay Thai fighters their complete arsenal. Elbows and Knee's lead to decisive victories. It's also why they don't allow these in most competitive fighting because they can lead to death.
@@jakehalle3697 It was. That's why elbows and knee's are the most deadly moves in Muay Thai. This is a martial art designed in ancient periods where swords, spears were carried by soldiers. The idea was to use your body to the same lethality as the weapons.
@@ragdoll1666 are universal rules for style vs style kickboxing SPARRING: no punching to face. kicks to face are allowed... thai boxer is not at disadvantage, karate has more repertoire, thats all.
I started doing muay thai a few years back after having a solid tkd background. Even though Thai boxing typically beats tkd and karate from what I've seen, I'm very curious to learn kyokushin. Looks like a very exciting and respectable art.
@@arx117 he does not need to. Shots to the face are prohibited fro this reason, face cannot be toughened, and a kyokushin fighter will smash face bones.
If you have a TKD background and you're already doing muay thai there's no need to do kyokushin karate as well, it's a tough style of karate that have added leg kicks.
@@arx117 he literally did block, slow the video down, everyone is praising the Muai Tai guy for how powerful the style's kicks are, but when he prioritised blocking the more powerful kick to an improvised punch (that might not have even be allowed in the first place), he 'didn't block'
Kyok training is heavily centered around toughness and endurance. Which is why you'll RARELY find a Kyok fighter phased by leg kicks and body shots. We take hits like that for hours. As for the punch, it look liked that punch caught him right on the nose...regardless of what you practice a bare knuckle hit like that hurts, lol.
While I agree with you, I do think it is a slight weakness of the style. I did Kyokushin for many years and they do train a lot without head punches because that's their full contact tournament rules. They may have agreed to this rule before the fight here too.
Lol stfu. Talking like youre/they're meta human or something. That's like saying a boxer is rarely phased by square punches to the head because they train for it. Nonsense.
You can't say one style is better than the other if the rules aren't balanced to cater towards both disciplines and their sport, but then again even without punches to the head and the constant pressure of stepping out the ring, Muay Thai's brutal chopping kicks is something different. Respect for the kyokushin Sensei though, he does have moves
My uncle was inducted into the karate hall of fame not long ago, he is a master of Kyokushin. Certainly one of the toughest guys I know, even for his smaller stature. He did a training camp in Japan where he slept on concrete for 6 months.
This organization has promoted itself with catchphrases such as "Strongest." In order to create a deified charisma, it has held tournaments with rules that are favorable to its own organization. This is especially common in Japanese martial arts. However, if we are to internationalize, points systems decided by the judge's subjective judgment, kata competitions, and striking competitions that do not hit the face cannot become mainstream. In fact, traditional martial arts cannot be won by fighting with free rules or unique martial arts styles, so they have turned to kickboxing and mixed martial arts, and the athletes train in those ways. If we want to maintain the status quo, we should accept the fact that it is only valid in a closed world and not boast about being the strongest in the world. Of course, I would not deny it if there is no such arrogance. That is also one of the way martial arts should be.
Both really great fighters, most importantly - respect each other. As a striking martial art Muay Thai seems the best. But kyokyshin is also great deal.
In a street fight scenario I would much prefer to be a trained fighter in Muay Thai rather than Karate. Karate is a fantastic martial art, but the ability to be able to use your elbows and knees as well as kicks and punches in a street fight scenario, just edges Muay Thai ahead by a point or so. Still regardless of my opinion, they are both tough as nails to be going at each other's legs with those kicks. I think Karate had more power in this match up in a controlled setting though, but as fighters know, the street is never a controlled setting👊
One thing to remember about a street fight. Most street fighters are NOT trained in anything so learning ANY martial art would push the odds in your favor. Key point - YOU were a street fighter before a martial artist. I've trained in several different styles since the age of 13 and I am now 57.
Of course there wont be elbows , knees and clinch .This match is to compare what is comaprable from both martial arts -> punches and kicks. We all know that if you've fought with elbows and knees for 10 years against a guy that has never used them you'd win. That will be the same as comparing a weapon that shoots only bullets vs a weapon that shoots bullets , granades and etc.
Thai guy did lose. He broke the rules out of desperation. If I went into a Thai match and took my gloves off and punched the Thai guy in the face barehanded, would I win? No... Think about it.
for all those who say kyokushin doesnt allow face punches, in the early stages of this style you were basically bare knuckle fighting against each other to the whole body. officials then prohibited face punches with fists bc literllay there were too many broken hands and even some dead in the tournaments, which is not in the interest of a tournament. so thats why they stopped fists to the face. but make no mistake, you still can get punched by leg kicks which in my opinion takes more technique and skills but once mastered it can be even deadlier
Bare knuckle fighting in practice has shown to end fights quicker, therefore less likely to get things like CTE and multiple concussion, yes the short term injuries look more gruesome, but you are taking less punches overall.
we also stab each other with swords, knives, knitting needles, rolled up copy's of the Wall Street Journal, the Christian Science Journal, Playboy Magazine, and the complete works of William Shakespeare. which we also use for practicing the pierce the heart with a pair of Kitchen tongs technique..Oss keep it real my martial arts Brothers.
That’s some stupid reasoning. Training yourself that way can only create bad habits. The way he took those leg kicks he would’ve been hit in the face right afterward, if it were allowed.
@@StrainXv Bare knuckle punches to the face aren't discouraged in an actual fight setting and are still taught for defence/offence, they just aren't permitted in sparring or tournaments
In kyokushin tournaments is forbidden to punch the opponent in the head. The reason is you may cause too much damage. If you look, the guy did not throw a single head punch. I had a privilege to attend a lesson. In those 2 hours i learned 2 things: 1. those guys are as hard as rocks, 2. Don't ever let them demonstrate the techniques on you. Unless you want to be crippled for 2 weeks.
I'm a Kyokushin practitioner and yes it's true that most Kyokushin practitioners need to train more to deal with head punch, that's why there are numerous Kyokushin fighters who do cross training, like Andy Hug, Francisco Filho, George Saint Pierre, Bass Rutten, etc, and they did it well. And also some Kyokushin Organizations realize this and make some modification on the rules, for example WKU's Pro Kyokushin or Hatsuo Royama's Kyokushinkan Shinken Shobu, etc.
@@hafizmuizz7269 that's kind of a philosophical question. I would guess that most of the named fighters would identify as kyokushin fighters with elements of others mas obviously, but still KK at heart since that's what they started out with and did the longest and is still most of their techniques. it's not really up to some dude on youtube to decide.
@@maxmeier532 Thats like saying its not for you to decide whether someone is a woman or a man. if they barely used kyokushin in a fight, theyre not Kyokushin fighter. theyre fighters who practices kyokushin. they are Mixed Martial Artist
It's funny. How could we say Andy Hug or Francisco Filho are not Kyokushin Fighters, just because they did Kickboxing? Or GSP is not Kyokushin Karateka just because he did MMA? Who are we anyway to judge like that? I never think that doing fighting rules other than Kyokushin will make me as an Kyokushin apostate. What I'm trying to say is that Kyokushin practitioners today tend to forget head punches and head defense, something that in the old times Mas Oyama gave emphasize as well. That's why nowadays some schools of Kyokushin re-introduce the rules.
I love the fact that these guys train for years or even decades to get good at their respective martial arts and all it takes to totally incapacitate either one of them is a poke in the eye.
Eye pokes aren’t actually that bad. The reason they’re banned in UFC is because of the permanent damage it could cause over time (or one very unlucky time where the eyepoke is strong enough). But in reality getting an eye poke in is very hard unless the other person is already winning or you’re in a grappling situation. In the latter situation, it’s not so bad as grappling is not too bad without using your eyes.
Yes, my friend lost his eye sight because of a ball in his head while playing soccer, eyes kind very sensitive, that's why it's to dangerous take punches in eye.
Both well trained martial artist, they fight with patient. There were some spark but cool down really fast. This is not death match, not mma, not kick boxing show (pretty close but no glove) , both demonstrate very high skill of karate and muay thai. Good match!
It is not muay thai bro, in muay thai we can use elbow and knee. It’s dangerous but that why muay thai is strong. Kick is really good too but elbow in the face and knee for your stomach is a real pain.
As a Kyokushin Kai practitioner, I must say that we need not stop the kumite after getting punched on the face unless it incapacitate us. In a street fight or self defence scenario its very likely people will punch or sucker punch us on the face. We need to condition ourself not to stop or break the flow of the fight. Its my personal point of view though.
OSU!
@@Shadowrulzalways OSU!
Agreed. Because for me, martial arts should also be more about defending yourself in real life. Since Kyokushin practitioners have the mentality that "I was taught that we are not supposed to punch on the face", then it starts to sink in to them that they're not expecting punches on the face. Only kicks. As a result, they forget how to defend their face from punches and if they do get punched, they will be "shocked" and go "Hey! That's against the rules! Oh wait, I'm not in a dojo or kumite."
Artillerist X Duelist That’s not how they would think. They would be aware it’s a real fight and would defend better. LMFAO
@@Shadowrulzalways Well, true. And I would agree that they'll defend themselves better compared to those with no martial arts background. It's just that, their art failed to emphasize on that part. So I believe that boxers and MT practitioners could defend themselves better in a real fight.
As someone who practices Muay Thai, that karate dude is a fucking tank, he ate 2 hard leg kicks like they were nothing, and obviously he got punched and had to have time out, but a little bit of conditioning and he’s a fuckin beast
thats kyokushin 💪
Good point. He really copped those brutal leg kicks like a trooper didn't he? Aside from his conditioning he is rugged af and has technique and balance. That first roundhouse kick he throws at 43:00 has power and is scary quick....🤔
Well, you can't do head conditionning or you end up like Muhammad Ali .. to me kyokushin guys are scared to get into real fights. And it's comprehensible, they don't train to fight, they are trained to get hits in the legs and body.
Haha none of the leg kicks fazed him.
These guys from kyokushin are the real deal....closest thing to original karate there is left
Kyokushin karate had a reputation of building someone to be as hard as a literal rock
Muay Thai had a reputation of having one of the strongest kicks in the world
Having their legs trained the the absolute limit
This battle is nothing more than a great spectacle between an immovable object and an unstoppable object
I am Thai. If this is a Muay thai stadium He wouldn't have time to stand and flex his leg muscles to defend.
@@ggwp7295 as most time we see these setups, it’s an “amputated” form of muay, with rules favouring the Thai’s opponent.
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ummm have you seem the condition program of Thai Fighters? I guess theyre conditioned to be metal then
@@hereandthere4751 yes Muay Thai are trained in literal hell conditions
But what I mean is kyokushin karate trains you to have more endurance by getting hit more often
Same as Muay Thai
Kyokushin: durability // endurance///
Muay Thai: durability /// endurance//
They both Excell at different things but are almost the same
Unstoppable *force
This man single handedly raised the overall respect for karate📈📈
same for the muay thai fighter who didn't hit him in face more times so he couldn't hurt him
empty handedly
@@shinoobie1549I see what you did there
kyokusin always must have respect
HE WAS JUST LUCKY THE MUAYTHAI GUY DIDN'T GO FOR THE FACE AND WASN,T USING PUNCHES... NOT EVEN A SINGLE JAB .... IN A REAL MATCH THE KARATEKA WOULD HAVE BEEN OBLITERATED IN 15 SECONDS
This is really the first time I’ve seen a karate fighter hold their own respectably against a Muay Thai fighter. Props to both! Those spinning roundhouses were VERY well executed!!
but under what rules they fighting?like thai boxing relies on knees,elbows & head strikes,none of these were allowed, fight dont think so
Without face shots smh
@@uBmaniac fair lol
@@watsonbaker6134 karate also uses knees and elbows, so what do you mean
No clinch too
Even though he lost, that guy makes karate as a whole seem a lot more legitimate.
Yea, I'm a boxer and before I watch this I thought karate is just something like taichi for kids
@@zhang4927 because it is different from standard shotokan karate (the ones american children learn). kyokushin karate is not based on points and is full contact, the teacher Mas Oyama had the nickname of "Godhand" and could dish out some serious damage.
Karate gets a bad rap because of the numerous Mcdojos out there
But then to a soldier. Boxing is a weapon for the desperate
All bout how you use it of course.
But old karate fighters in the 60s had a problem where they wouldnt protect their face so they got beat easily
Kyokushin Karate is very legit
He didnt lose, the muay thai fighter should be disqualified for violating twice the rules they were obviously using (no face punches) , beside that he looked quite helpless
Jesus that karate guy was walking straight through the leg kicks
Liberian average man their training is intense they trade blow for blow for an hour before even sparring
Thats kyokushin for you
If you wanna see a more intense receiver... Try searching for Okinawa Karate :D Traditional Shit
After 10 even 20 leg kicks he will feel the pain, slow and steady wins the race.
Michael Terrell II that’s not conditioning, it’s just plain stupid if you practice getting kicked. Watch the match between kitsongrit and rick roofus, then you will understand the power of leg kicks.
Karate guy was handling those leg kicks like a champ, you know those had to hurt.
MT Guy: Throws his most powerful kicks
Karate Guy: "Huh, that tickles"
MT Guy: Slaps karate guy in the face
Karate Guy: "Ok I'm done"
Fun Fact: the karate guy is a filipino because his cloth has a philippines at his back
The punch to the face was more of a surprise
I don't think he was caught by that weak punch, maybe there was some eye contact there
Fun fact: both of them are filipinos
Another fun fact: They are all Filipino's
Kept wondering how many of those un-checked kicks the Karate guy could withstand. Respect to both. Warriors.
Not a lot. Had he not folded to a punch to the face, this leg would've given out after a dozen more. MT dude could kick a lot more than the KK guy could eat.
@@Corvin666Not sure about that bro , that guy bones are all microfractured and grown over they literally hit each other's legs and arm with bamboo poles to increase bone density, most fighters I totally agree with you, but legit Karate practitioners from Japan, I don't know
@@Corvin666 Also I don't think they're supposed to be punching to the face here, and did you notice the MT guy limping after I think he would've ended up damaging his leg, just saying
@@damonr4136 leg kicks cause swelling in the quads they dont damage your bone bro
@@marwan9835 Actually they're purpose is to affect the sciatic nerve causing that leg to become useless, muscle swelling is just a side affect, my point wasn't so much that it damages bone but that they train themselves in ways that let them push way beyond most fighters limits against things like leg kicks, the real masters anyway
You could really see the difference in power/technique the Muay Thai fighter had in his punches. If he was allowed to clinch, elbow and knee, this fight would have been over in much shorter time.
Tony jaa reaffirms that🔥🔥
Agreed
See I thought the karate guy looked much stronger and better form. He held back so many times till that last lucky high kick
both of them do
If it was a black belt it were been over quick
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I am a Thai. And I trains Muay Thai .I see that the Muay Thai He hadn't used all of his skills yet. His knees and elbows were forbidden. By the way, that karate man is awesome. He received a low kick twice and He was still walking normally. Very respectable. This is a Good fight.
yes right
yes, this is 100%. Full on with knees and elbows and grappling allowed, it would have been over much quicker. Still, as you say, the karate practitioner did an excellent job!
@@davepastern yes ! I agree with that. this fight must be over quicky. if it use MMA rules.
srs, muay thai is not exactly a martial art in thailand, its what people do in bar fights
also, no idea why the karate guy didn't check leg kicks and just ate them
@@eplanti haha in my land thay just drunk in bar fights LoL
The black belt is a kick master. His spinning back kicks are beautifully executed on point real sharp. But the Thai dude with that left round house following with a straight left that was a real vicious move.
And for a Thai fighter that guy wasn't even that good, you should watch their national Champions
it was embarrassing the thai didnt get out of first gear. the karate guy gassed so quickly. the martial arts are worlds apart
punches to the face were not allowed though
@@kickboxerforever00 I don't think the Muay thai fighter is Thai. They weren't even speaking Thai in the video.
@@kickboxerforever00 yes but the karate fighter was average too so it's a 50-50
Not under Muay Thai rules but both of these guys would be dangerous to fight
Taekwondo Bro I would love to see them in a lethwei
R D real life baki if it was under lethawei..
Myat Min broooo FRFRFR
I did not understand the rules though, was it no hand punching at the head? as I guess Karate does not teach boxing style fighting?
Alexander Wingeskog it depends on the style of karate this is (I’m gunna butcher the name) koyushin karate id say one of the deadliest stand up martial arts and they don’t teach punches to the face but they would rather have their practitioners kick their opponents head think about why risk breaking your hand in a fight because they train and fight bare knuckle
This was really cool to watch. Both highly skilled martial artists / fighters.
Yah this was so cool the kyokushin fighter was really good so was the other he was taking those shots like a champ haha
Not skilled at all. Stupid
@@Ghost_29-q8x they are skiled kyokushin guy lose cause he got knockout if you get kick like that you might be dead
@@Ghost_29-q8x i’d like to see you take a kick like that to the face tough boy
@@quintenverbist6443 he blocked the kick and got dropped from a tiny jab put it in slo mo
Dude been hit over and over again but stood still dang ive seen plenty of them with black belts went limp after only taking 1 leg kicks.. Kyoukushinkai is the real deal and of course muay thai is still up there with its quick and fast executions and pure vicious combo. Mad respect to both of them.
Magic of being bigger than foe
Shout out to the kyoukushin fighter. He held his own. That high kick + high punch combo was vicious.
He won. The Thai guy hit to the face twice and left the ring too...he was desperate to save face.
Especially since in Kyokushin karate, banned the enemy head hit with fist! This is forbidden, this is imbibed in the warrior,
because if they were hit on the head there, there would be fatal accidents! Of course, if someone lands an illegal punch, it doesn't matter if it was allowed or not here, the other person won't defend against it out of reflex! They smash 2-3 or more bricks with one blow in kyokushin, a skull bone couldn't resist that. That's why it's banned the head hit with fist.
“He held his own”- wtf, he won the fight, this was under Kyokushin rules, the Muay Thai guy was getting his ass handed to him and decided to just start punching him in the face… 😄
@@antoniostrina82 Nobody claimed they’re useful in other circumstances. This was a fight under a specific set of rules, not a street fight…
How did he hold his own? He got punched one time in the face n went down😂🤦🏽♂️not to mention doing zero damage to the other guy.
For those who are oblivious. This fight was not supposed to hit on the face or head only body. The Muay Thai guy was constantly hitting the Karate guy's face
source?
@@analysisjunkie9154 Source? Brain
so if that will be the case i suggest they dont fight with muay thai it should be same martial arts karate..
Then thats not muay thai then,they removed the most effective moves of muay thai like knees,elbows and high kicks
@@analysisjunkie9154 me as a kyokushin karate martial artist, only face kicks are allowed in this type of official fights punches on head are foul, but there are head punches in karate but it can only be performed in street fighting or in dangerous situations which may cause death
Props to the Kyokushin guy for eating those body kicks like nothing. He's had a lot of "training" to be able to do that. Master level indeed.
MT guy kept aiming those kicks to the thigh area though which can absorb the blows better. But if he aimed for the shins I'm sure it would've felt different.
simply live with the pain
It's called body conditioning. Tons of martial arts use it in many different ways.
@@zsbacskai7331 You know you can adjust the speed and see that the Muay Thai fighter is swiping with an open hand at the guys eyes.
Tank
Happy to see a video showing Karate outside of a westerb sporting context. People tend to forget that it is a system of power and brutal attacks .
Its kyokushin, a diferent style than the obe you see in films and schools, its also much more viable.
I trained it only for 6 years so I only know the basics, I also modified it a little bit to protect my face a bit more.
I was made fun by a friend who trains mma, supposedly he used to be very good at it, I say supposedly as when we squared up on the ring (a friendly fight to just see if karate is as useless as people believe it to be)
He was jumping around, landing few weak hits on the core etc, I hit him maybe 5 times total, I tried to hit him 5 times, every time after a block, after 5th punch he decided that maybe karate wasn't so useless afterall haha
Dude kiokushin is and rico venholden do it as much as kick boxing
Respect. I fought a Kyokushin fighter and it was tough. They train their bodies well. And the discipline of the Thai fighters is above and beyond. Great display of technique and mutual respect.
They’re bitches
@@ophiolatreia93 which ones lol
@@taahakhan2385 karate has weak chin.
@@ophiolatreia93 Go fight against him, and then talk.
Rather, admiration.
I as a boxer consider MT one of the most dangerous breeds of fighting styles. Definitely no joke
Really? I am thinking about trying a style of fighting... So youd recommend it i assume
@@mattball7074 I recommend boxing if it's just self defense. Boxing is more practical in a street fight. You would build stamina, reflexes, power, speed ect. Muy tai I'd say is more competitive than a lot of other styles imo. However that's more so mastering kicks than knee, elbow or hands. So I suggest boxing because it's overall better fundamentals and more practical. Plus its easier to apply to other styles in my opinion
@@rubenmonterroso9085 Thanks man! Appreciated
@Am_ for sure. I've done a a bit of MT. I only use my footwork for power in MT cause it's a different commitment
Karate is no joke
They both are PROFESSIONAL & GOOD...the karate black belt guy is well-trained and took leg hits like a rock....while the Muay Thai kickboxer showed us why MMA loves Thailand ❤️😭😂
Muay Thai and Kickboxing are not the same.
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched [or bell rocked] in the face!" ~~ Mike Tyson
@@mikekr6195 true kick boxing was made to defend against muay thai
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That's the unfortunate part of Kyokushin, they don't strike to the head thus many haven't acquired skills to defend against head strikes unless they have taken up boxing on the side. As someone who has trained with a KKS practitioner, there is absolutely no doubt that their legs kicks are equally on par to Muay Thai and they also have a very strong trunk/core as they primarily do hand strikes to the torso only...
Huh, maybe I should leave Kyokushin sometime as I was trained to strike the head
I will have my black belt in kyukushin I can say you that high kicks are really dangerous
Werd
?@@synthWizkid
That's false. They strike to the head and aim for knockouts in tournaments.
It's like bare knuckle karate fighting.
Educate yourself.
Kyokushin’s rule of no head contact is a tough rule to engage, especially if you’ve been training to go to the dome. Those leg kicks were definitely hard. You see the MT Man limping already
Strong core, not so strong chin
@Antonito Bianchinito most K1 guys are Dutch but okay, as a Dutch style kickboxer, I’ve always struggled with Fighters whose main style is Muay Thai, you say they don’t kick hard but they do, they kick harder than most of the Dutch guys.
Also I’m pretty sure Ninjitsu is the best martial art since it’s literally for assassination, just poison your opponent.
But being for real, Tai chi and Wing chun are one of the most made fun of martial arts there are, there’s an MMA guy in China destroying these so called “Masters” in Tai chi and Wing chun.
@Antonito Bianchinito what that address? Ur momma house?
@Antonito Bianchinito u invite people to gengbeng ur mom? Nastyl
We’re going to Antonio’s moms house? I’ll call my friends
0:51 that leg check was badass
Haha
Dude really I got so hyped haha almost scared the heck out of my dog haha
u mean that block was badass?
@@pripyat.sadboi8092 yes.
@@pripyat.sadboi8092 yes but the block is called a leg check
I’m surprised with how well the Karate guy did. As a practitioner of Taekwondo, I’m not oblivious to the fact that both Taekwondo and Karate have had their combat effectiveness nulled over the years. He did a really good job against him. Muy Thai is a far superior martial art.
Modern Karate and Taekwondo are good martial arts to be used as a stepping stone for a more combat focused one.
Because this is kyokushin karate. It's full-contact, with a heavy focus on conditioning and sparring.
If there's a style of karate that can hold its own, this is the one.
I saw the superior type of karate throughout the fight until the blow to the face, all of us who fight in this modality know that this is an issue because you try to neglect your face to focus on defending your trunk
When I stopped doing muay Thai, I didn't do any martial for about 3 years unless you count heavy bag drills. When I decided to get back into it, I enrolled in wing chun and taekwondo and did that for about 2 years before returning to muay thai. Taekwondo really helped my kicks which were my weakness in Muay Thai. I highly recommend 1year of taekwondo to anyone considering Muay Thai
@@Muircetach Kudo Is the best karate style in my opinion.
@@flavioaguirre2296 can you tell me what's kudo sir
The problem with Kyokushin is the lack of head strikes. He's conditioned his body, but because they never strike to the head he let it completely open.
The biggest disadvantage of Kyokushin is that you're not allowed to punch or strike the head of your opponent with your hands. If you don't practise that you won't develop the necessary timing or feeling for the right distance.
Exactly also the distance control is completely off, Karate kyokushin is very unrealistic, because if you try to get in the punching range of a real striker with your hands down, without any worry and zero head movement you will end up KOed. Also Getting so close without worrying about grappling or clinching again very unrealistic.
And they say that this is the strongest karate, very sad
@@user-cn7wy7xx5k On the other hand they learn to kick very hard and they're used to take hits. If you combine Kyokushin with boxing you end up with a pretty useful combination. Bas Rutten i.e. started out as a Kyokushin practitioner.
@@user-cn7wy7xx5k total agree with you I trained in kyokushin for 5 years and fought in a few state and national full contact tournaments, I started to train in Muaythai and I found out that I had no defense for head punches and carried my hands low. Basically had no boxing at all,
Every martial art should take hits to the head. Its ridiculous to practice an art and not know how to defend or take a punch to the face. That art is useless.
Easily fixed... as many many Kyokushin fighters have shown through the years. Once they adjust they dominate.
The bold straight forward movement is because of long time training without head strikes, when a strong cross would stop the charge cold... The stationary stiffness is the polar opposite of what you need to avoid KO.
yeah.... training blind kicks only is a KO sentence... you will get hit in the face by someone who knows what he's doing if you keep throwing blind kicks.
Good points
Жесткость корпуса связана с тем, что удары в голову разрешены ногами, если ты опустишь голову вперёд то тут же получишь коленом, чтобы ты ее опустил тебя будут бить по животу, корпусу, в основном в солнечное сплетение, ногам, но конечная цель именно эта, нас так учили, и многочисленные видео с ютуба подтвердят мои слова, если ты отянешь голову назад то получишь маваши гери, удар ногой в четыре раза сильнее чем удар рукой, но медленнее, в частности походив на бокс четыре года, я их видел, и уворачивался даже успешно, но на соревнованиях часто есть нокауты этими ударами, мой тренер по киокушинкай бил меня так, что после того как я пришел на бокс, мне когда наносили удары боксёры да ещё и в перчатках, казалось что они раз в пять слабее бьют чем на каратэ, но удары в голову, могут сильно тебя покалечить, отправить в нокаут, выбить челюсть, нос сломать, и этого не избежать, в итоге пришлось оставить этот вид единоборства из-за высокой травмоопастности, то же самое было и с киокушинкай, он ничем не уступает ни боксу не тайскому боксу, это очень жёсткий стиль, где каждый удар может быть последний, ходил на него 7 лет пока не начались серьезные проблемы со здоровьем
@@nikksom2027 what kind of health problems
Also because no head strikes were allowed. The karateka won the match by disqualification of the muay thai guy whom hit the head.
You can really hear the impact that ended the fight and the fighter knows that hit connected. Respect for a good fight but also knowing when to stop the fight. Neither fighter needs to be injured beyond recovery.
That kick and hit was illegal in this competition. Not heal kicks and hits. Just body.
You idiot. They weren't supposed to hit the head. It was an illegal move.
Two illegal contacts by the Muay Thai fighter. He knew the rules and broke them on purpose.
@@andremiranda9599 which's rule say that can't hit in the head??? If there's one that's not fair for muay thai! Kyokushin karate is already make us a strong body and lots of protective poses
How do you guys no what rules had been agreed? The Kyokushin guy tried a heal kick to the head as well. He lost - get over it.
As a Muay Thai practitioner who just some hours ago took a good amount of lowkicks.... I respect a lot that karate fighter for receiving those lowkicks like if they were nothing
in Kyokushin, its more customary to just take the low kicks rather than checking them. so they end up being able to take a lot of kicks just as a side effect. Learning to check more often would do them untold benefits
Not checking lowkicks is asinine.
Ahahaha Muay Thai vs karate but Myay Thai guy is not allowed to use punch in head,Knees, ellbows or sweeps what a ret,rded rules to make this even for both ahahaha yeah lets reduce Muay Thai on half of his all moves :D
The karate guy is attacking with a full open body. Yes kyokushin depends on kinda making the body unbreakable but this guy is too much showing off how strong his body is
also his hands aren't up all the time, bet he could block everything to the head if he had a better stance
True
It’s too bad that his face wasn’t strong. Lol
I’m a Muay Thai fighter so I’m on his side. I’m glad the karate guys face got hit and the MT guy didn’t get disqualified.
I couldn't agree more that Karate guy is too much showing off. Walk with his student clap and underestimate his enemy. How the fuck can this guy be a teacher.
@@joshuawallace6126 lol kinda absurd the karate guy dont teach proper face conditioning , ie sparring properly.
The utmost respect and admiration for these two brave warriors.
They went hard.
yes agree it was a good effort by both fighters, both showed a high level of skill, the karate guy seemed much heavier.
@@googlelord1678 These two men fought bravely with a martial art they believed in.
If Muay Thai loses, Muay Thai is weak! If Kyokushin Karate loses, Kyokushin Karate is weak! So they say.
It must have taken a great deal of determination, courage, and self-belief.
I really respect the courage, determination, and power of belief of both of them.
The Karate guy restrained himseft to hit on the face wereas the another man hit him twice on the face
@@andresmolina5474 I think most forms of Kyokushin karate they don’t do punches to the head
Why would anyone want to watch drama fights when they could watch two skilled and respectful fighters go at it? Hands down one of the best fights on RUclips.
I m a former kick boxer.My coach(André Rigianni) was teaching as well Muay thaï than Kyokushinkaï(but separately,naturally).Both are relatively similar.Kyokushin is probably the most brutal form of Karate do and it s the closest form from kickboxing.Personnaly i praticed only Muay Thaï with him.
Yeah well, if you knew what MADE kick boxing, you'd realize that without kyoukushin, there wouldn't be kick boxing.
@@lightningjadejavier did i said something about that???
I love how he just eats leg kicks but goes down to a slap
Poke in the eye you mean?
Eye contact.
you can condition your legs and arms you can't condition your face...lol
@@anthonybrogan390 you cannot condition your face in kyokushin, smashing rocks and trees with the fist are part of some trainings. Fists can smash face bones,for real.
The only part left to guard is the face.
minmini unfair,the muaythai guy can not box him
Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face lol
sevenlevan So true for this video.
Bblurre now that you say that, it does kinda look like he scratched himself or poked his eye from blocking the kick. I don’t even think the punch afterwards hit. Nice catch. Especially with the way they were checking on him that’s not the kinda check for when someone is knocked out or tko’ed. Also if he was actually hit hard in the head you don’t over dramatically fall like he did. Your legs just give out. I don’t think he actually got tko’ed here.
So you love copy and paste Mike Tyson's line again?
The punchs to the face are illegal in kyokushin
Somebody got punched in the face until they have a plan
Why these Muay Thai vs Karate type fights is stupid?
Well, you can't be labeling it as Muay Thai vs Karate if either one of the fighters will be limited from using his combat system to follow the other fighter's fight rules. It is not MT vs Karate, it's two warriors fighting; Not a fight between styles but between individual fighters.
Here the MT guys can't do much of his moves. No clinch fighting etc. If that is the case, is it really MT vs Karate?
So how about this... have them use Kudo like armour for the sake of safety, then have them go at it using all their techniques except their killing moves. Then it will truly be a style vs style fight. Minimum rules like the first UFC.
I just like watching tekken here
Better yet, put them under mma rules minus takedowns
The Kyokushin fighter is limited as well, it isn't just the Muai Tai fighter
I am not surprised because I always remember Andy Hug, Francisco Filho , Glaube Feitosa... These guys were top K-1 fighters , and they came from kyokushinkai karate and fought against best kickboxers in the world ... That moment when Francisco Filho knocked out Ernesto Hoost daaayum
Exactly, I think there are a load of kids in this comments section or people newer to martial arts that have no idea about anything but muay thai.... it's so massively glorified now. Despite Kyokushin and other arts having many people represent and beat Thai guys at the highest levels.
respect for you dude. most people in comments don't know what kyokushin karate is
@@bryanking1428which thai guys, muay thai destroyed kyukoshin at thailand and japan 2 times
@@naif8188 Mr Muay Thai? Beat Mr Kyokushin? Wow... Never heard of those fighters. One art doesn't beat another, just the individual fighters and how they trained for that fight, being mindful of the rules that may help or hinder one fighter or the other.
@@naif8188A Muay Thai fighter would be destroyed by Francisco Filho or Andy Hug in K-1
the most devastating blows of Muay Thai are elbows, knees, high kicks, removing these weapons is like fighting with one hand. however, the challenges between disciplines in my opinion must allow all the techniques foreseen in each to be carried, not that one must lose in favor of the other since the second is favored.
MMA
@@alexanderYT2786 Exactly. And in MMA muay thai > Karate, unless your name is Wonderboy
This does indeed make it difficult. Take wing chun for example. It is banned from MMA in most cases because some of the moves are based around attacks such as eye gouging. One might argue that makes it more effective. But then we'd have to ask what about a style that's based around kicking someone's genitals. It's a slippery slope from art to brawling
@@NoelAKABigNolo Lyoto Machida, Bas Rutten and Andy Hughs disagree with that notion. They all have their roots and strong base in Karate.
The Thai fighter is allowed to kick the head/high kicks, knees and elbows are allowed. Kyokushin competition just doesn't allow for head strikes with the upper body.
I think MT is just the most practical striking style out there. Time and time again it proves to be rock solid and versatile.
Where on RUclips touch some grass
If that was indeed the case, all UFC champions would be MT; they're not!!!
@@Kthomasritchie because of grappling. Reading comprehension dude. + Joe rogan is big on MT
@@Kthomasritchie Actually, they kinda are, MT is one of the staple martial arts to learn in MMA and in the top 5 effective/winrates. The only other striking styles that are similarly effective in the top 5 are boxing and non-MT kickboxing.
Not saying it's all their primary/origin styles, but MT is one of the most commonly established bases to learn in for MMA.
@@truffeltroll6668 No, because of kick boxing, boxing, etc. Re-read my comment.
I’ve always said this, karate guys have incredible defense when it comes to their body but I feel like they freeze up on their forms when it’s interrupted with a blow to the face so I’m sure they’re not use to taking blows to the face too often, not saying they don’t get hit in the head but it’s not like they’re trained to take tons of blows to the head like Muay Thai or boxing
They are used to taking blows to the face as in kicks, but not punches/slaps/elbows. Those are the competitive rules and also how they spar. I trained into kyokushin/kenpo and you just don't spar nor compete with hand strikes to the head. And when we did do it as part of training it was in separate training sessions for boxing/kickboxing/vale tudo (MMA).
I enjoy watching Wonderboy Thompson in UFC. And of course Machida in the old days. Those are the karate guys who always put on entertaining fights
Agreed, but man I wish Karateka trained more on how to get hit in the face. In the end both were hurting for sure.
Only in this fight they had agreed hand arm strikes to head .
Tai fighter disobeyed twice
You wouldn't exactly be wrong. Simulation is huge but it has to be as real as possible. Only Simulation doesn't include a direct blow to the face at full strength with no gloves or head gear. Had there been gloves on here, that blow to the face may not have ended the match when it did...but we obviously want realism here to prove anything whether about the effectiveness of the styles and/or the fighters themselves. Now the one thing I'll give Karate guy, is that on at least 2 occasions, he cornered the Thai fighter and in a less controlled match up/scenario (like on the street) he could've and would've kept throwing flurries and likely would've connected a decent hits. That doesn't necessarily mean Thai guy couldn't have survived the flurries though either. Despite the outcome here, it proved a very worthy and pretty even match up. Both fighters were able to show strong points of their training and discipline! Respect to both!
Dude that Muay Thai guy was limping at the end. That Karate dude had real power in his hits!
Muay thai vs. Karate.... Yet, the MT practitioner cannot clinch, knees nor elbows? good clinch in MT is equivalent to black belt of Karate and BJJ, so why remove it? To shwocase and give the Karate guy a handicap?
you forget the fact sports Karate removed elbow and takedowns, throws, locks and clinch. Karate is a free hand fighting style against weapons that was developed after Meiji restoration leading to ban of weapons.
Either way karate had more an advantage, proven right now MT would destroy it without the art of eight limps!!
PLUS, and big plus, removing punches and elbows to the face.....
@GlasgowBlueBear1690 Yep, until he took a punch to the face, which if you'd recall is the most common and fundamental strike that most striking martial artists use
if it allow everything like mma mt guy would get submitted by a wrestler
0:51 epic defense
Na man 0:36 epic defense
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@@Lemmy1899 No
Lemmy
No it's stupid defense.
Lower kick have to defense with the right position (see in muay thai defense position). If not, the lower kick will ruin the calf and cannot walk properly in longer round.
@@pattyAom I know I was being sarcastic
Lemmy !
lol
Each blows from the karateka have the despair of heroism, and each kick from the Muay Thai fighter feel like an impending and inevitable doom
ถูกต้อง yes
Well said
You are blind then
По этому он в лицо начал бить🤣🤣🤣
huh
You can tell that guy hasnt been hit in the face in a long time but went right back at it huge respect for these warriors
That karate guy absorbed some incredibly hard shots, wow. Insane. That is not easy to do and remain composed.
You can body condition to the point where body/leg shots aren't a concern unless you're taking them in the same place over and over. Kyokushin and Uechi-Ryu are two styles that put a lot of effort into being able to take hits.
@@VictoriaWargaming shito ryu and shotokan also
He kept kicking his legs and it didn’t seem to work. But when he kicked and punched him in the face it did. He was so focused on his legs he forgot to block his face. I didn’t know you could take breaks in a fight like that.
Much respect for both arts. You cant go wrong with either of them.
yes, yes you can.
the thai guy didnt get out of first gear. the karate guy tried so hard he gassed its embarrassing. the martial arts are words apart.
Even though the Thai was only aloud to use half of his stand up ability, this is some of the most effective striking I’ve seen come from karate, it’s such a good martial art to learn to strike if you pick the right school.
They both are filipino.
@@manwithnousername9779 i rlly want to know why people would want to know if they are filipino or not 💀
Right, it's kinda lame to make the title what it is when no elbows were used.
Allowed
I did Ashihara, its not only one of the most effective schools/ styles of Karate, its also really physical intense training!
This is something you'd never see at the olympics because of modern karate
This is real karate. Strong, sturdy, controlled and disciplined.
"Never underestimate any style." -BRUCE LEE
Obviously bad advice. Muay Thai is definitely superior to karate, and to kung fu.
NEVER UNDERESTIMATE ANY OPPONENT.
@@LesserMoffHootkins Excuse Me. You're correct.
ruclips.net/video/7nekHKctXUQ/видео.html
@@LesserMoffHootkins muay thai is the most brutal sport of the big 4 disciplines(boxing wrestling and jiu jit su)
@@LesserMoffHootkins You´re just a moron. Shut up, you´re the most weak here.
This was dope! Much respect to both practitioners. But one can think just how devastating the Muay Thai fighter’s round houses would of been if he choose the calf instead of the upper Thai once he saw how sturdy his stance was from the first kick.
Yeah definitely, classic Thai fighting. He would have targeted those legs incessantly. Chop that tree down.
@@paulp1450 yup chopping like a lumberjack lol
the thai guy didnt get out of first gear. the karate guy tried so hard he gassed its embarrassing. the martial arts are words apart.
Yes your upper Thai can get really sore from a good kick
@@Stopstalkingmenarokkurai there is a Karate fight league that’s been out for a little while now. (I don’t remember the name off the top of my head) I think if the Muay Thai fighter faced one of those guys I’m mentioning from the fight league, I think it’ll go the distance. But your point definitely holds merit when it comes to over all Muay Thai and Karate regardingto stamina.
This video is a great example of the potential karate has against other martial arts. Kyokushin fighter did very well. Both did well actually. I'm glad a lot of people here now can see that too.
See that the fight was ended in two hits from Muai Tai guy, and that karateka couldn't accomplish anything with his kicks and punches to the torso? It's fairly obvious here who has taken damage and who hasn't. Karate is a sport, Muai Tai is a way to beat people up.
@@meyearsago-lc8bq Just two hits? You only watched the end of the video, right? During the whole fight, the one who attacked the most was the Muay Thai fighter and the karateka tanked all the blows until the end. Apparently the other guy poked him in the eye. Both of them didn't seem to be affected by any blows until then. And whenever he had an opening to attack, the karateka returned with the same aggressiveness. If that rolling thunder had landed, your precious Muay Thai fighter would have passed out in an instant.
@@LoneCommentWandererin this fight elbows and knees and clinch we're not allowed otherwise karate guy would be down in very short time
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Wow. Lots of respect to both fighters. I would have loved to have seen that in person.
the rules are rule if you agree to fight with some rule you should respect the rule beacause your opponent dose not expect you break them and when you break the rule its disrespect to every one
Ya they removed chop to the neck, open palm strike to the head,joint locks, takedowns from karate..
@@abk072 because it was a stand up fight neck chops are hard to land and palm strikes don't do any damage
@@spidermoon3574 lol if the deadly strikes fron karate allowed in this fight mt guy would not stand for more then 5 secs
@@spidermoon3574 when the rules are not hit the face and i kick him first then punch him in face same will happen because he is suprised he dont see it coming.
@@spidermoon3574 if this was a fight without rules the karate guy can easily destroy him
Both of them were equally formidable. The karate guy's lower body was like a solid mountain. It was too bad that his eye was scratched.
The karate guy has my respect. You're exceptionally good bro. Keep it up.
Every time I see a martial art vs Muay Thai, it is mostly the rules of the challenging martial art. Getting punched in the face is one thing, taking an elbow and a knee to your kidneys and then another knee to the gut is a whole other experience. I do dig that form of Karate, respect to the late Andy Hug and GSP.
You can use both elbows and knees in kyokushin, dont think this would be a surprise for the karate fighter , unlike 2 punches to the face which obviously violated the rules they were using , otherwise the muay thai fighter looked quite helpless without them
@@sulejmansulejman1460 dude then don’t bother calling it Muay Thai when most of Muay Thai attacks is banned, not surprised ? Dude got punch in the face two time and lost, imagine a knee or elbow to the face. This will be over in an instant.
@@potatoehead4405 the only banned thing is a punch to the face due to absence of gloves , which is why the fight was over , and he didnt lose , fight was over because muay thai fighter violated rules and injured him , let me punch you 2 times in a face with bare knuckles , i will watch you continue fighting. As i said before , karateka can use elbows and knees as well, same as he could punch muay thai fighter to the face , but this was obviously prohibited.
@@potatoehead4405 the only difference between muay thai and karate is that you dont have gloves in karate , which is why you cant punch to the face , otherwise its 100% identical , including knees , elbows , even clinch is some styles of karate (Ashihara)
Name other prohibited muay thai technique ..)
@@potatoehead4405 im not saying karate is superior to muay thai, both have its own advantages , karateka has a lot more tough body , and muay thai fighters are better prepared to protect their face , but in this particular fight karate fighter is obviously stronger.
Respectable professionals. Loved it. And the sportsmanship of the Muay Thai fighter, you could tell he was concerned. 🙌🏾🙌🏾
Cause he hit the head on accident. This was kicks and body shots only
you ate those kicks keep that same energy for the punches my guy
How can u say this is muaythai v karate...the Thai guy not allowed to punch face not allowed to elbow not allowed to clinch..this all karate rules.
That is exactly what I was thinking. Would these karate rules apply in real life street fights
the love and the respect of both fighters is so real in this video
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This fight: "Hey watch our Sensai fight a Muay Thai fighter. But we're only gonna let the Muay Thai fighter use 20% of his moves."
mister lister the sister fister it’s still Muay Thai no matter how you dice it. Muay Thai is not the ultimate and is able to lose like any other fighting style. Accept it and move on
lol i trained muay thai and there are not so many moves like in karate or other martial arts
@@adandyguyinspace5783 dude muay thai,kun khmer and lethwei are the most practical striking fighting styles in history as their are barley any restrictions especially in lethwei where its bareknuckle and headbutts are allowed quit dickriding karate if karate was based more on reality rather than doing katas and no punches or strikes to the head it would definitely be a more popular fighting style
Aden ngo Shotokan Karate is the most practiced martial art in Japan. Karate in general is the most practiced martial art in the world including TaeKwonDo. If Muay Thai worked so well then why is no one, absolutely no one, learning it for self defense? Because it’s a sport art. It’s not meant for self-defense. There’s videos upon videos of people using Karate in self defense on RUclips. I’m not entertaining this conversation anymore. Stop living in a black and white world, it’s an infantile and limiting way of thinking.
Aden ngo and you celebrated, in a different comment, Kyokushin’s conditioning. You then telling me to not “dick ride Karate” is idiotic
Great video of both very good fighters! Kyokushin used to allow punches and elbows to the head but it caused too much damage to the practitioners because of bare knuckle fighting. They incorporated this rule in tournaments. Thats probably how muay Thai met in the middle here - no punches to the head, and no mitts.
Именно в их соревнованиях они бились без ударов по голове . За удар по голове дисквалификация .
@@erkend6251 таец не бил в голову, а делал тычки в глаза.
What about knees? Grappling around the neck and kneeing is a big part of Muay Thai
In boxing the gloves can cause more long term damage than bare knuckle. Lots of padding reduces surface damage. Protects the hands from breaking and allow the boxer to pummel the head many times before the fight is over. A bare hand can only punch so hard to the right areas. Jaws and skulls can smash hands. The face surface can only take a limited number of punches before it’s too damaged to continue. Boxing gloves can shake the brain many many times before the match is over.
@@juanitojajo6722 yeah Kyokushin use knee too but it can damage people really bad.
I think this clip is a perfect example of why it’s important to treat martial arts for what they are: self-defense and physical conditioning. The sporting aspect of them is great, and the various rules makes things interesting. But, training to fight by those rules can limit one’s ability to fight and handle blows in a real life scenario. You cannot expect an opponent in a street fight to abide by the rules you’re used to.
That karate guy was very impressive; he ate those kicks for lunch and had plenty of room for more. But since he wasn’t used to head strikes, he went down hard when he got one. Had he been conditioned to handle them, I’m confident he would’ve won.
How come in like 75% of Muay Thai matches I’ve seen against other arts, they ALWAYS handicap Muay Thai?
No i think it a style to fight like that
@@bored-bt4nn Well look where thinking got you, fuck sake watch a single muay thai fight and you'll see clinch, kness,elbows, which were all left out here.
It's because most fights are designed to entertain the audience, traditional Muay Thai fights are over quick. When you allow Muay Thai fighters their complete arsenal. Elbows and Knee's lead to decisive victories. It's also why they don't allow these in most competitive fighting because they can lead to death.
@@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech I remember hearing that Muay Thai was originally invented to kill
@@jakehalle3697 It was. That's why elbows and knee's are the most deadly moves in Muay Thai. This is a martial art designed in ancient periods where swords, spears were carried by soldiers. The idea was to use your body to the same lethality as the weapons.
Absolute respect and compassion to both fighters. Bravo!
Karate guy: look how strong and powerful I am when I’m beating you while using my rules that is totally bias for my style of fighting.
@partisan no... They don't punch in the face, also no knees or ankles.
@@joselfs we use knees and ankles in kyokushin too.
@@ragdoll1666 are universal rules for style vs style kickboxing SPARRING: no punching to face. kicks to face are allowed... thai boxer is not at disadvantage, karate has more repertoire, thats all.
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@partisan not true. Thai fighter is not allowed to utilize the clinch and punches and elbows to the face are prohibited in this match.
You can tell the karate guy is built like a rock. The muy tai guy's leg was hurt after kicking the karate guy.
Athletic fighters. Both are quick, have excellent technique and both demonstrate a fierce fighting spirit. Respect...😎
Overall discipline
I've loved the rivalry between Karate and Muay Thai. It's great to see this kind of competition and sportsmanship.
Hardly a rivalry
Where was the sho-Ryu-ken ? 🤣
the thai guy didnt get out of first gear. the karate guy tried so hard he gassed its embarrassing. the martial arts are words apart.
Muay Thai is clearly superior
karate focus on flashy move Muay Thai is superior
I started doing muay thai a few years back after having a solid tkd background. Even though Thai boxing typically beats tkd and karate from what I've seen, I'm very curious to learn kyokushin. Looks like a very exciting and respectable art.
This karateka didn't care to block, that's why he lose
@@arx117 He is too proud that kick didn't knock him off(with his student clap). He is underestimate his enemy. He is too careless to be a trainer.
@@arx117 he does not need to.
Shots to the face are prohibited fro this reason, face cannot be toughened, and a kyokushin fighter will smash face bones.
If you have a TKD background and you're already doing muay thai there's no need to do kyokushin karate as well, it's a tough style of karate that have added leg kicks.
@@arx117 he literally did block, slow the video down, everyone is praising the Muai Tai guy for how powerful the style's kicks are, but when he prioritised blocking the more powerful kick to an improvised punch (that might not have even be allowed in the first place), he 'didn't block'
The guy who invented Kyokushin Karate used to wrestle bulls and chop their horns with his bare hands. Look it up on RUclips.
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No gloves and no Chin pad...
@@martinaubut9208 no punchs and no elbows ;)
@@melih1429 you are right. No punch to the head.
It is not a performance
Kyok training is heavily centered around toughness and endurance. Which is why you'll RARELY find a Kyok fighter phased by leg kicks and body shots. We take hits like that for hours. As for the punch, it look liked that punch caught him right on the nose...regardless of what you practice a bare knuckle hit like that hurts, lol.
While I agree with you, I do think it is a slight weakness of the style. I did Kyokushin for many years and they do train a lot without head punches because that's their full contact tournament rules. They may have agreed to this rule before the fight here too.
You got to block low kicks no matter how conditioned you are your leg will cramp sooner or later
Imagine what an elbow would have felt like...
So does muay thai training lol...
Lol stfu. Talking like youre/they're meta human or something. That's like saying a boxer is rarely phased by square punches to the head because they train for it. Nonsense.
You can't say one style is better than the other if the rules aren't balanced to cater towards both disciplines and their sport, but then again even without punches to the head and the constant pressure of stepping out the ring, Muay Thai's brutal chopping kicks is something different. Respect for the kyokushin Sensei though, he does have moves
It’s not about karate and muayi thai.It’s all about the individual how he practices and uses each techniques he learned.
Two very excellent and efficient fighting styles. Similar but not identical.
My uncle was inducted into the karate hall of fame not long ago, he is a master of Kyokushin. Certainly one of the toughest guys I know, even for his smaller stature. He did a training camp in Japan where he slept on concrete for 6 months.
So what do you gain by sleeping on concrete other than getting dirty?
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Those guys are crazy! 😯 I don’t think head shots were allowed in the rules. But they were sooooo intense it was inevitably going to happen.
1:09 what a kick that was !!!
the name is ushiro geri
But the block though 😲😲
@@vahidshahrokhi595 it was mawhasi kaiten geri bro
@@vahidshahrokhi595 no it's called spinning back kick. Same thing stop making it sound more badass
@TomiXK 5 i did karate as well but you can call it a spinning back kick
Really beautiful display of Martial Arts! Tough guys! Both of them.
I respect fighters very much. For overcoming their own fear.
But also for discipline to train hard everyday.
This organization has promoted itself with catchphrases such as "Strongest." In order to create a deified charisma, it has held tournaments with rules that are favorable to its own organization. This is especially common in Japanese martial arts. However, if we are to internationalize, points systems decided by the judge's subjective judgment, kata competitions, and striking competitions that do not hit the face cannot become mainstream. In fact, traditional martial arts cannot be won by fighting with free rules or unique martial arts styles, so they have turned to kickboxing and mixed martial arts, and the athletes train in those ways. If we want to maintain the status quo, we should accept the fact that it is only valid in a closed world and not boast about being the strongest in the world. Of course, I would not deny it if there is no such arrogance. That is also one of the way martial arts should be.
Both really great fighters, most importantly - respect each other. As a striking martial art Muay Thai seems the best. But kyokyshin is also great deal.
I wouldn't say Muay Thai is the best but it's good.
@@kawikadee9670 it’s the best, hands down! Proven over and over and over again.
@@oldrango883 I think its the individual.
the thai guy didnt get out of first gear. the karate guy tried so hard he gassed its embarrassing. the martial arts are words apart.
@@oldrango883 I agree with you fully. It's the best striking art because it's very practical.
In a street fight scenario I would much prefer to be a trained fighter in Muay Thai rather than Karate. Karate is a fantastic martial art, but the ability to be able to use your elbows and knees as well as kicks and punches in a street fight scenario, just edges Muay Thai ahead by a point or so. Still regardless of my opinion, they are both tough as nails to be going at each other's legs with those kicks. I think Karate had more power in this match up in a controlled setting though, but as fighters know, the street is never a controlled setting👊
In kyokushin you will learn to use elbow and knees too. The main issue is head punches are forbidden
One thing to remember about a street fight. Most street fighters are NOT trained in anything so learning ANY martial art would push the odds in your favor. Key point - YOU were a street fighter before a martial artist. I've trained in several different styles since the age of 13 and I am now 57.
@@albaindufayet2619 if head punches are forbidden, why were they happening? Was that some penalty stuff at the end?
@@davidburnett5049 I don't know the rules set for this match, but you won't see head punches during Kyokushin competition
@@albaindufayet2619 pourquoi? Frappe quelqu’un dans la tête est hyper common, non?
Muay Thai: The style of the 8 limbs, but let's use only 4. Good show, though.
Karate guy fucking ate anything that the Muay Thai guy threw at him
No elbow, No clinch, No punch for head
This rule is for Kyokushin.
Of course there wont be elbows , knees and clinch .This match is to compare what is comaprable from both martial arts -> punches and kicks. We all know that if you've fought with elbows and knees for 10 years against a guy that has never used them you'd win. That will be the same as comparing a weapon that shoots only bullets vs a weapon that shoots bullets , granades and etc.
The endurance of the Karateka is amazing, and it was able to put a Muay Thai practitioner almost at the verge of losing!!! ...
Thai guy did lose. He broke the rules out of desperation. If I went into a Thai match and took my gloves off and punched the Thai guy in the face barehanded, would I win? No... Think about it.
@@bryanking1428 A "fight" where punches to the head is banned. That is for kids.
for all those who say kyokushin doesnt allow face punches, in the early stages of this style you were basically bare knuckle fighting against each other to the whole body. officials then prohibited face punches with fists bc literllay there were too many broken hands and even some dead in the tournaments, which is not in the interest of a tournament. so thats why they stopped fists to the face. but make no mistake, you still can get punched by leg kicks which in my opinion takes more technique and skills but once mastered it can be even deadlier
Bare knuckle fighting in practice has shown to end fights quicker, therefore less likely to get things like CTE and multiple concussion, yes the short term injuries look more gruesome, but you are taking less punches overall.
I died in three tournaments it just toughened me up. All my students have to die at least twice a week, otherwise it's just not real training.
we also stab each other with swords, knives, knitting needles, rolled up copy's of the Wall Street Journal, the Christian Science Journal, Playboy Magazine, and the complete works of William Shakespeare. which we also use for practicing the pierce the heart with a pair of Kitchen tongs technique..Oss keep it real my martial arts Brothers.
That’s some stupid reasoning. Training yourself that way can only create bad habits. The way he took those leg kicks he would’ve been hit in the face right afterward, if it were allowed.
@@StrainXv Bare knuckle punches to the face aren't discouraged in an actual fight setting and are still taught for defence/offence, they just aren't permitted in sparring or tournaments
In kyokushin tournaments is forbidden to punch the opponent in the head. The reason is you may cause too much damage. If you look, the guy did not throw a single head punch. I had a privilege to attend a lesson. In those 2 hours i learned 2 things: 1. those guys are as hard as rocks, 2. Don't ever let them demonstrate the techniques on you. Unless you want to be crippled for 2 weeks.
I'm a Kyokushin practitioner and yes it's true that most Kyokushin practitioners need to train more to deal with head punch, that's why there are numerous Kyokushin fighters who do cross training, like Andy Hug, Francisco Filho, George Saint Pierre, Bass Rutten, etc, and they did it well.
And also some Kyokushin Organizations realize this and make some modification on the rules, for example WKU's Pro Kyokushin or Hatsuo Royama's Kyokushinkan Shinken Shobu, etc.
Theyre not Kyokushin fighters, theyre Mixed Martial Artists that happens to take some useful elements of kyokushin.
@@hafizmuizz7269 that's kind of a philosophical question. I would guess that most of the named fighters would identify as kyokushin fighters with elements of others mas obviously, but still KK at heart since that's what they started out with and did the longest and is still most of their techniques. it's not really up to some dude on youtube to decide.
@@maxmeier532 Thats like saying its not for you to decide whether someone is a woman or a man. if they barely used kyokushin in a fight, theyre not Kyokushin fighter. theyre fighters who practices kyokushin. they are Mixed Martial Artist
It's funny.
How could we say Andy Hug or Francisco Filho are not Kyokushin Fighters, just because they did Kickboxing? Or GSP is not Kyokushin Karateka just because he did MMA?
Who are we anyway to judge like that?
I never think that doing fighting rules other than Kyokushin will make me as an Kyokushin apostate.
What I'm trying to say is that Kyokushin practitioners today tend to forget head punches and head defense, something that in the old times Mas Oyama gave emphasize as well.
That's why nowadays some schools of Kyokushin re-introduce the rules.
@@Fachrul_R_Siraj He used to but after he found out Kyukushin was weak. He went to learn other styles. So yeah he was an MMA.
I love the fact that these guys train for years or even decades to get good at their respective martial arts and all it takes to totally incapacitate either one of them is a poke in the eye.
Think head shots were restricted..that is why the karate guy restricted his attacks to below the head.
That's why I wear sunglasses at all times
Eye pokes aren’t actually that bad. The reason they’re banned in UFC is because of the permanent damage it could cause over time (or one very unlucky time where the eyepoke is strong enough). But in reality getting an eye poke in is very hard unless the other person is already winning or you’re in a grappling situation. In the latter situation, it’s not so bad as grappling is not too bad without using your eyes.
Yes, my friend lost his eye sight because of a ball in his head while playing soccer, eyes kind very sensitive, that's why it's to dangerous take punches in eye.
I mean all it takes to incapacitate you is a teeb+low kick.
Durísimo el maestro de karate, absorbió esas patadas a sus piernas como si no sintiera nada. Buena victoria por parte del practicante de Muay Thai.
точно дурисимо? может беллиссимо?
@@mirohost3863 qué sabes tu gano el muay thai
Their rules was no hiring on the face
Kyokushin guy forgot that the kicks were supposed to hurt
Both well trained martial artist, they fight with patient. There were some spark but cool down really fast. This is not death match, not mma, not kick boxing show (pretty close but no glove) , both demonstrate very high skill of karate and muay thai. Good match!
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It is not muay thai bro, in muay thai we can use elbow and knee. It’s dangerous but that why muay thai is strong. Kick is really good too but elbow in the face and knee for your stomach is a real pain.