Karate vs Muay Thai 1963-2020
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- Опубликовано: 18 мар 2021
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For decades, the Karate vs Muay Thai style vs style match up has been popular among fight fans.
Here are highlights of 6 Karate vs Muay Thai style match ups from 1963 up to 2020. 
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Muay Thai was born from the battlefield. Nowadays it’s been refined to become very technical and extremely powerful. It’s a very real deal.
If you even notice nowadays, most stand up styles just look like Muay thai more than their traditional forms seen on their old footage.
Yes muay thai was born from battlefield fighting, muay boran and Krabi Krabong which included weapons. Today muay thai is a ring sport but definitely the real deal for Sure!
Thats true.
Bro I like Muay Thai more but karate also originated from battlefields of Japan. It was developed by Samurais as a basis of unarmed combat
@@kaifrahman2703 yes and after they got defeated by muay thai, they rip off our arts and call it kick boxing
Agreed. Fighting with invading Burmese in the 18th century.
Both styles are powerful, I practice Kyokushin currently, but I have a lot of respect for Muay Thai as well! 👍👊🥋
Kyokushin Is a really effective and good karate style,I respect It
@@andrewrex9041 I respect it as well but the lack of head striking takes away a significant factor in any striking art. Knowing how to throw and especially defend head shots is a very important thing to know in a fight.
The early Karatekas were used to absorbing hits and feels no pain. Amazing
As today’s Uechi Ryu karatekas
2 extremely useful martial arts! Thanks for the upload!
Definitely, both Karate and Muay Thai are great and useful martial arts
@@FijiMuayThai one more than the other
Kurosaki showing some MMA skills. Throw to side control, transistion to back mount (sorta) after a push/trip. I love this stuff
You mean he did some Judo?
Before becoming a modern competitive sport, karate included some throws and ground control (karate from okinawa for exemple) The same goes for muay thai.
@@papyfaby72 I realize that, just it seems his transitions were a bit smoother for his timeline. Maybe “ahead of it’s time”
Shogun vs Machida was a classic Muay Thai vs Karate fight in the UFC many years ago ❤
Nah it wasn’t. Machida had the karate back ground. Shogun wasn’t a legit Muay Thai fighter though
"I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times" - Muay Thai is that man
Training Muay Thai sometimes it feels like you throw that roundhouse 10,000 times in a single class lmao
Gotta say, not super surprised that one of the two wins was a Kyokushin guy. I trian Muay Thai, and I trained with a guy that had just switched over from Kyokushin. I've also done a little karate back in the day. I gotta say, the Kyokushin guy I trained with actually impressed me. I still think Muay Thai is better haha, but out of all of the karate styles I've seen, I think Kyokushin has the best combat merit
why wasnt rick rufus vs changpuek kiatsongrit listed?.
You left out the footage of Kyokushin fighter Akio Fujihira defeating Muay Thai fighter Huafai Lukcontai in 1964.
Like the music...
muay thai teaches you how to defend and take punches to the face and obviously how to knock someone out, something fundamental that kyokushin doesn't teach, and the clinch it's really powerful.
kyokushin teaches u how to defend and attack the face with your hands they just dont use it during sparring or tournaments because of not using any protective gear now tell me it wouldnt really be a good decision to just punch the face with bare knuckle and no headgear with full power as training or even in tournaments
Most karate styles teach takedowns & ground strikes which is far more effective than clinching & the Thai clinch leaves you open for easy takedowns. Greco-roman clinch is more realistic
The most commom comment of those who have never practiced Karate.
Andy Hug, Ramon Dekkers - may they rest in peace!
What's the background music? It's really relaxing
Ironic thing is that most european schools (Dutch especially) of muay thai are kyokushin masters combining karate and kickboxing.
and we learn. big trees are felled from below
I love what Japanese kickboxing has become as a result of this. Dutch style too! Years of fighting bring about an evolution. It's not about this style vs that, it's about perfecting fighting over time.
Muay Thai has very basic movements, but each one is repeated until it's an automatism, and all the body's weapons are engaged, it makes it deadly and beautiful to watch, very smooth !
Mmmm ¿dónde están los combates de los estudiantes de Mas Oyama?
Where's oyama and his friend vs muaythai video..?
Andy Hug🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭
Andy Hug, the Blue Eyed Samurai 👍👍👏
He won because he had a big size advantage on the thai..
@@kilogm748 In fact he won because he was one of the best fighters in the world, extremely technical, fast and strong.
@@charlesaguiar253 ..and 30 lbs bigger ,with restricted rules for the Thai
@Owl Longbow WELL SAID WE MUST PROTECT THE HONOR OF OUR SENPAI ANDY HUGG OSU KYOKUSHIN FOREVER OSU
Thai fighfers againts the world... and they still go strong..
Fair rule for both sides: They should fight without gloves for Kyokushin fighter advantages and using Muaythai rules for Muaythai fighters advantages. Kyokushin for life. Osu!
How is that fair in any way… the kyokushin guy can’t punch to the face without getting his hands broken. Gloves are the best or at least smaller gloves or folk style muaythai hemp rope wraps would probably be a little more fair.
@@muayboran6111 We train and fight without gloves that’s our natural element and we get used to punch in the chest, ribs and solar plexus bare knuckle meanwhile Muaythai fighters not used to spar and fight without gloves and will most likely broke their fists and wrists without hand wrapped and gloves. Getting punch bare knuckle to the body is huge different than being punched with the gloves. Go watch Kyokushin fighters fight in the tournaments.
@@muayboran6111 This’s how I train my fists: ruclips.net/video/iu6VeFGLsxM/видео.html
if you don't wear gloves (
Dead) ruclips.net/video/9VBuJJsGxVY/видео.html
@@user-mh8qx8jz7o that’s for Muaythai fighters as they don’t get used to train, spar and fight bare knuckle. Kyokushin fighters punch and kick hard objects like tree as part of their training regimen. Go to any Kyokushin dojo and try to spar with them and see for yourself how it feels to be punched bare knuckle in the chest, ribs and solar plexus.
cool..
The second fight shows how effective grappling is. Mm
Everytime Muay Thai loses, excuses follows.
Muay thai doesn’t always win… it’s not a god style. Having said that it’s more complete than kyokushin and have very high win rate against other styles because of it. They have so many things to deal with different types of opponent
@@muayboran6111 Nope. Muay Thai is not more complete. In fact what occur is that many Karateka dont usually practice full contact and dont make that callus training. Its just a matter of how you practice.
As far as ive heard, the 'real' karate has grappling into it... it went into a more of a striking stuff cause o boxing... karate became japans boxing.
No. Everytime they fight that fighters. The challenger wants to make rules. Let the Thai fighter use elbows knees. Y'all die in the ring. It's very obvious why they make thai fighters by their rules. Take Andy hug vs the Muay Thai guy for a example
@Owl Longbow Manson Gibson was from Taekwondo and they also defeated them
In the ring Muay Thai had limited many battlefield technique for big damaged to opponent body to reduce for the sport purpose.
True. So goes for Kyokushin and every martial art actually.
14:49 BS decision
Where are the elbows though?
I think elbows were not allowed in these fights
In that time, many Muaythai fighters fought against most art around the world and glad to use the rival rules or whatever rule. While most people called Muaythai VS another arts but we all know that Muaythai fighters never fought with their own full Muaythai rules, and in that time noone dare to fight against Muaythai fighters with full muaythai rules.
No Knees?
Where is machida ? The shotokan karatekas who win against a Thai fighter
at 3:32 Kenji Kurosaki is the founder of kickboxing, not Sawmura after Kenji got beaten by the Muay Thai fighter he is the one who combined boxing, muay Thai, and Kyokushin karate to create kickboxing and his student Toshio Fujiwara became a kickboxing legend beat many muay Thai fighters. I think you got the wrong information.
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Where’s shogun vs machida?
Muaythai is the best.
Karate is better than muay thai
@@ElMiKy75 you didn't watch the video? 😂
@@pljr2029 I did and its the true
@@ElMiKy75 you didn't see the karate guy get fucked in the stage? 😂
@@pljr2029 hahahaha ahh damn the muay thai fanatics
Apparently, knees and elbows were not allowed here....
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Awesome fighters and martial artists. Thanks for sharing 👍
Good list of Dutch Muay Thai fighters.
Waow keren sekali🌟🌟🌟🌟👍👍👍
Those kick is so deadly
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Very interesting. My comment was deleted when I corrected fact that in 1964 was fight format 3x3 Kyokushin vs Muai Thai. Where Kenji Kurasaki lost, however two more great karatekas won via KOs: Tadashi Nakamura and Akio Fujihira. It means people doesn't want to know real truth??? The fights happened on Lumpinee Stadium, and this is fact.
Akio Fujihira and Tadashi Nakamura are students of Kenji Kurosaki so The Big fight is Kenji Kurosaki VS Ravee Dechachai .
Two students won but Master lose by ko and painfully . How you think about that ?
@@ladnaweesarapol2974 the tournament format was 3x3, with 2/1 in favor of Kyokushin. Yes sometimes capitan can be defeated, but who said that fight of Kurosaki was more important then say fight of Nakamura? There was no big or small fights. That time victory was with kyokushin and could have been told in the video.
@@SD-lf3rw If you know about this match tell me who is thai fighter VS Nakamura ?
@@ladnaweesarapol2974
Fight 1 on the 1964 kyokushin vs Muay thai challenge card
Akio Fujihira (later fighting kickboxing under the fightname Noboru Ozawa) vs Huafai Lukcontai.
Fight 2
Tadashi Nakamura vs Tan Charan.
The result was Win by Nakamure by 1R KO (kick)
Fight 3
Kenji Kurosaki (who was there as coach and agreed to figh in the last minute) vs Rawee Dechachai.
However, please tell me your point. Do you want to say that Thai side put weak fighters against Nakamura or Fujihira? Correct? But that's not something to comment at least from my side. It was decision of Muay Thai who challenged Kyokushin. I don't think Nakamura had privilege to pick up adversaries out of group of Thai fighters.
My point, it would be much more fair to describe overall match 1964 results in video, instead of showing how yellow belt junior student fights against Thai. But it's up to the owner of channel.
And lastly, I don't have any disrespect to Muay Thai, don't get me wrong. It is great art, and even my son training in that complimentary to taekwondo.
@@SD-lf3rw Ok, I want you know information from Thailand
First you misunderstand, Muay thai not challenge Koykushin this match happend from
Mr. Osamu Noguchi idea
Mr.Osamu Noguchi started a boxing business(wolrd boxing) in Thailand since 1960. By brought Thai boxers to fight with Japanese and provide Japanese boxers to fight with Thai boxers untill he got idea brought Kyokushin VS Muay Thai . This tournament happend in 11 Feb 1964
Kru Yodthon Senanan said Noguchi is dirty guy. He said to Kru Yodthon send low muay thai level to fight
because all japenese fighter is beginner. That why Thailand send weak fighter to fight
1. Tan Seleng. He was trainner at Lukyodfah Gym. he not fight for 3 years and train 5 day befor fight
2. Huafai Lukklongton. he nearly retire
3. Ravee Dechachai . He was big name muay thai fighter but never fight for year
After this match Noguchi and Kurosaki adapt some muay thai technic to kyokushin before created kickboxing. Thai people belivered Noguchi trying to copy mauy thai by change name and some rule
15 oct 1972 Noguchi bring Japenese fighter to figth wiht muay thai again under BS Samurai tounament name. Kru Yodthong don't mistake again result muay thai won all . Mr. Thanom kittikachon PM of Thailand
ordered kick Osamu Noguchi out from Thailand within 24 hours because he was an undesirable person of the country.
ambos artes marciales son wena
Jin kazama vs fahkumram
The blue eyed samuay is it karateka or is it kickboxer? I don't like that it's very unorthodox
I'm sure you can find a better fight than the last one
The last one shows how modern MMA is becoming the fast food of martial arts. They learn quickly but wrongly. They put too much emphasis on attacking but they telegraph a lot and they have bad defense.
It should be all rules included. Muay thai rules and Karate rules. This is to see the full scenario of the whole fight.
Too bad they make rules. And are bias.
@Owl Longbow nothing wrong with stating facts tho. Because it did. Happen
@Owl Longbow 😂. No. I'm talking about what ive seen. Champuek v Rick, im talking about this fight. The fact the rules were set for the Thai not to win is just ridiculous. Limiting the thais fighting style. In order for the fight to continue. Anyways. I'm not gonna get deep in this.
@Owl Longbow 😁.
@Owl Longbow Rick loses but then Manson Gibson defeated Kiatsongrit twice and Manson is from Taekwondo
No leg kick rule in the first? What?
Karate generally doesn't do leg kicks
🎉Thai Box 🎉
For those of you who are too proud of Muay Thai. Please be smart a little. There is no such thing as the best flow. There are the best athletes. Think and ponder
It's pride. Muay thai means everything to them when they are dedicated to the art. We seen it time and time. They make thai fighters fight by rules that a real Muay thai fighters don't fight by. Accept it.
@@kingvegeta5497 humble yourself clown, they decide where they fight so don't complain.
@@kesenaememere8520 Dumb😂😂
If so, then why Kyokushin looks more like Muay thai than their traditional Karate style? Easy, cus Muay thai is a better style than traditional Karate, hence Kyokushin is made in 19s and it looks more like Muay thai than traditional Karates. Wonder why o.o
المواتاي خلق للتدمير 😎🔥🔥
There was also couple of fights where kyokushin and muay thai competes, the last one was not really between traditional fighters
Overall very close, if you look at all of the fights you will find them really close in results
Old days old tactics
Muay Thai did not originate from Thailand like most people think.
Originated in Cambodia
there are way way more matches then this for karate vs muay thai over the years
And after this Kickboxing was born !
Yes!
เตะแต่ลมแล้วมึงขึ้นไปชกให้มันเสียชื่อมวยไทยทำไม
Andy hug vs muaythai😂🤣😂😂👎👎👎🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆🦆
Dear Muay Thai friends, please bring your excuses somewhere else.
Andy hug is so so big.he look like boxer not kyukushin.
It's K1 kickboxint rules
Muay thai has slightly advantage over kyokushin karateka.
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Tenshin Nasukawa vs several top class Muay Thai fighters including Rodtang the iron man
If he fight with fair play he will be legend sadly not all of thai he fought smaller 2 weight class under him and everyone force to cut weight 8-10pound before fight tenshin for big money than normal
@@midorfeed312 yawn
Nasukawa has long-standing experience in Muay Thai. It’s what he started learning after leaving Kyokushin Karate in the 6th Grade. That said, Karate is an important supplement to his style of kickboxing and he’s a genuine once in a generation talent who defeated several Muay Thai champions. I would argue he drew in his fight with Rodtang though, getting in more attacks but coming away much more injured than the Iron Man thanks to becoming desperate to hurt him in the last round.
@@TheJaranggigi Nah, he is just tired. I argue that punching bag cant win you fight in kickboxing
@@TheJaranggigi tenshin trainer channel said he 100%muaythai karate just for business
Have you guys notice that Karate guys stop using karate as soon as the fight starts? Nothing is used. No stance. No control. No technique.....
Really weird.
karate was never develop to be a fighting sport, to put on a pair of gloves then dance in a cage with other fighting arts.
karate was and has always been for SELF-DEFENSE...
Muaythai was devoloped and tested on the battlefield as well
This is a horrible cop out, especially when Muay Thai itself was born from empty hand fighting developed in war.
No, truth is, they are both awesome martial arts, in and out of the ring.
@@suchasin self-defense isn't the same as battlefield. Karate's techniques & weapons are specifically for police & security guards. While Muay Thai came from battlefield & professional gambling sport.
I love karate and Muay Thai only as good as the guy doing it in the circumstances on the day there.
I think Muay Thai has the advantage but this karate seems a lot better than a lot of the contemporary one
Karate no match with Muay Thai. Then the Japanese reinvented karate with Muay Thai kick, but no match with Muay Thai
@Owl Longbow
Yeah, you are right, the technic/ method is only one method to acheive your goals, other than that - experience, skill, your IQ, know the your opponent skill, etc are required tools to win.
No because Karate can defend & use takedowns, thai nerds can't defend getting slammed on their head if their children lives depended on it
@@DADRB0B55 facts.
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Most of vintage karate vs muaythai are fair
But karate vs muaythai today not fair for thais judge and referee alway japan , karate side if thai want to fight in japan they should fight with bigger guy or disadvantage or cut weight 10 pound uf not accept go home no pay many thai said on live
Katate is best
Is karate all about throwing punches in the air?
Support you support muaythai 🥰🥰🥰
muay thai lacks a bit of grappling, good landslides, it would be interesting to see muay boran fights.
There are grappling in old style but it got remove cus gamblers think it boring
무에타이가 이기는 영상만 등록하니까 재미없다
이미 누가 이길지를 알고 보는 영상은 매리트가 없네
오히려 무에타이에 대해서 반감만 발생한다
Это было каратэшное каратэ. Гуд.
it is worth notice that the only time karate style dominate the ring is when the karate fighter was European with significant size&weight advantage other karate fighters had impressive stamina and endurance but that is it
The title should have been : Kyokushin Karate vs Muay Thai. Taking all into consideration Muay Thai definitely better style..Kyokushin is not that bad and better than most Karate and the practitioners of this martial are as tough as nail. Ous !
I didn't even see Muay thai fighters here in the video unloading plenty of the killer elbow. Definitely Muay Thai is overall the better martial art.
@@user-fl7zn2tn9q there's no better martial art, it's the better fighter why don't Muay Thai fans understand that concept
No, the "title" should no be "Kyokushin Karate vs Muay Thai" . The first fight was between a Japanese Goju- Kai stylist and other fights were Kyokushin and Seido (Japanese based Seido, not Tadashi Nakamura's Seido Juku).
it's hard to watch those two first karatekas :/ It's like they didn't know the concept of the "defense" :D They knew blocks from karate - but they are useless in that type of fight. So they got nothing to defend themself.
But, most of the cases, muay thai or kyokushin fights are boring because it is all about who has better trained body. Who is more power and "durable". There are only few individuals who show some technicall skills or cleaverness (eg. Seanchai). When you see that he wins not just because he has more trained body - but his cleaver, smarter, have more skills.
And that is - interesting to watch.
actually, as a MT lover and trainee, I must say there are still some techs we can learn from the other "fighting methods". Overall, Muay Thai is the best standing skills.
If you want to define the best "harmful" skill, I would say "buy a gun boy"... so be rational.
Only the best and true Muay Thai fighter are born in Thailand. Thai pride to all my Thais out there🥊🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭
Karate is a "Balletsport" nowadays, where special clothings, special surface, is needed. Muay Thai on the other hand is still very close to what it once were and therefor superior.
Kyokyshin sparing are limited by rules. Because its the first karate style with full contact, while other style using limited or no contact, and the other only focus on kata back in the day. That rules made Karate as martial art so suck. Even Judo now restricted by rule; no leg grappling...what's wrong with Japan? Why they so rulesadict?
Wkf Rules is trash
You are probably familiar with those point fighting bs, but there are many styles of Karate. Go watch full-contact, shin karate, or kudo. Uneducated comment like this makes you look dumb af. As for Muay Thai, it’s not close to what it once was in the past. Modern Muay Thai adopted western boxing techniques and the style changed due to scoring method as well. You can lookup video of Oldschool Muay Thai vs Modern Muay Thai. The Oldschool Nak Muay sucked at punching….. All Martial Arts evolve, those that do not means it’s a dead art….
P.s. Im Thai. I practiced Muay Thai, Kyokushin Karate, Tkd, Jiujitsu, and compete in amateur MMA as a hobby
Muay muy superior al karate demasiada rigidez en los ataques en karate solo filosofía para practicar ..respirar y algunos variación del Ka son bastantes efectivas pero no del q peleó aquí ...saludos es solo una opinión...
kyokushin always lose in muay thai that's why it is rare to see a kyokushin guy fight under muay thai rules they are so afraid.
muathai has more real fight art, eventough kyokushin has strong spirit and power,
Im still waiting for Muay Boran to get challenged its the complete Muay Thai, other fighters wont even last a minute not even 30 seconds.
Muay Thai rules !
Notice how western win only when they have 3-4stone weight advantage…hardly fair rules…won’t find it in western boxing
The last karateka did not look like karateka at all. There are many fake karatekas eh. They’re also beaten by other karatekas during sparring. They’re not well conditioned to take hits and complain all the time that you’re hitting too hard. True karatekas don’t complain when they’re hit during training
6.00 KO because big cut and broken teeth.. OMG
Fight 4 and fight 6 doesn’t look like karate
kyokushin, muay thai, judo, BJJ, western boxing and wrestling.... and train like an MF'er that is the best unarmed combat style OSU!!
Fighting a kyokushin fighter without face punches means you are dead already!
in kyokushin it's imposible to develop good boxing fundamentals. the training and competition is too unrealistic and ridículous, if you put a kyoukushin black belt that only do kyokushin in a boxing ring against someone with 6 months of boxing training the kyokushinn will get destroyed, kyokushin is just a waste of time,
Muay Thai 👍👍👍👍👍👍.
Karete 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
Muay Thai é muito foda 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼 já karatê shotokan esportivo é uma merda
Mura should have never been given the nod on that fight.
Always with muy thai rules...
So~~ what set of rules do you prefer they fight in
We all know Muay Thai winning 🏆… karate is good too but yea .. Muay Thai is better (my opinion) 8 limbs if someone knows both ! They’ll be unstoppable
Andy Hug never loose a match with muay thai fighter tell me about it.. its not about all glory if the muay thai is superior then that style will never looses a single match.. its not about just style but more over its the person them self..
@@kenmasters797 I feel that 💯💯
@@kenmasters797 true story because andy always fight with smaller thai accept it
@@midorfeed312
do you know that most thai fighters doesnt care much of how big of their opponent is..?
since most of them challenge other fighters that is bigger than them self.. and in this case some of them challenge Andy.. and in any match Andy always takes on challenge regardless style, race, or title..
even Andy always been challenge by bigger even for a fighter in the super heavy weight..
and in this case that thai fighter who challenge Andy is consider one of the biggest and the strongest of thai fighter
@@kenmasters797 are you in Thailand ? I live in Thailand 27year watch many muaythai and karate in stadium and back stage they care about weight only reason they fight bigger opponent is a big money x10 money from normal changpeuk just normal A list thai not strongest one most of them are poor if you give money enough they will fight japan promoter know
The karate guy seems so confused at the end as none of his moves seems to work on the muay thai guy
Mma>sanda>muay thai
Andy was much heavier than his rival !
no 😂
2020 that guy with shorts is mma,not muay thai