Yi Long is actually not a Shaolin Monk as they went out of their way to say he wasn't. A spokesman of the Shaolin Temple did a press release pretty much saying he was full of it. That being said I am pretty sure he has been trained in Kungfu, just not by them.
@@yspegel his techniques does not look like Shaolin kung fu. Actually, his techniques doesnt look like kung fu at all. His posture is almost the same as the muay tai fighters. The other kung fu guy technique was much more like kung fu.
@@yspegel That is a good point considering they are only supposed to use their skills to "Defend the weak" and expeditions wouldn't apply to that. Could see them maybe saying it to save face.
Kungfu i have been trained is about sense, speed and power and changing of movement and techniques, however i could not see any of these key philosophical principals in Yi Long.
I don't know what you're talking about. How do you imagine Kung Fu? Flying chinese people? The "acrobatic" part is just a little piece of Kung fu, and that's the consequence of their training, so it's mainly used in exhibitions. When it comes to fight, almost all Martial arts have the same style, that's because all we have are legs and arms, and what actually works in a fight is that. Now, the differences between Muay thai and kung fu are others, just like for any other style: The culture, the philosophy, the way of training, the body-hardening... But we should stop saying "that's not Kung Fu" because if we keep imagine Kung Fu as a Bruce Lee movie then no martial art will remain but Muay Thai and few others. Kung Fu is born as an Art of War, and that's what work in a fight now, and that's what used to work 2000 years ago.
@FrancescoRima Real Kung fu is dancing, and it sucks. There are some old Kung fu footage videos lol. Sanda isn't even Kung fu but a bad Chinese version of Muay thai 😂 All martial arts will remain. They are just heavily influenced by Muay thai as Muay thai has been doing this for decades, and influencing other kickboxing heavily.
No elbows and no clinching = no Muay Thai. Seen many gyms who claim to be Muay Thai gyms, but don't practice any elbowing or clinching at which point it's just another half-assed kickboxing gym, just like that match against Buakaw was not a Muay Thai match.
@@Shirolumiinalia I guess you don't understand then that elbow strikes and clinching are literally part of what defines Muay Thai as a martial art, and they weren't allowed in these matches which basically just makes this kick boxing.
@@Shirolumiinalia 1: Absolutely wrong, you've definitely never been in a fight before nor trained in Muay Thai. If someone is in range to throw elbows you don't have space to kick and about "bring him down" wtf do you think clinching even is? 2: Not the point, the point is that two key features that define Muay Thai as a martial art were banned from being used in these matches, therefore it's not Muay Thai. If kicks weren't allowed in a match then you wouldn't call that a kickboxing match either, would you?
I love elbows and knees as an arsenal skill set. Different training of both styles teach it. And even spinning ba gua (pa kua) style. I see a lot of crossover and modifications here. Tiger, snake, jaguar, praying mantis. Clinches, if done very quickly, lead to throws. I like the throws with immediate follow-up with the blitz of strikes and blows. Which is undoubtedly against the rules here. Yi Long is one of the best with a long solid history. He is a very good Shaolin student. You're not a master until you're a doctor and a meditator. It's just good to know that over 99% of anything online is pretty damn inauthentic.
I understand what you're trying to say and half of it is right. But to say one style is not Superior to another would be misleading. The reason there are so many different fighting styles nowadays is because a lot of them are created in order to counter another known type thought to be superior. For example Judo used to be known as one of the greatest martial arts for the longest time, and then in Korea they created hapkido, which is literally a style for defending against Judo.
In the list of the 10 Greatest MMA Fighters of All Time by MMA on Point, -8 of the 10 trained in wrestling (only 2 could make the list with no wrestling) -9 of the 10 trained in Muay-Thai (only 1 could make the list with no Muay Thai) -9 of the 10 trained in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (only 1 could make the list with no BJJ) 7 of the 10 trained in the combination of Muay Thai, BJJ, and wrestling
The problem is the more Kung Fu you use the faster you lose. He's fighting as a kick boxer. Both men are similarly inhibited by the rules. Basically, Get Good Noob.
@@DanMoridin no hand techniques for one because gloves. no death touch, no iron palm because gloves, gloves inhibit a lot of what Kung Fu is, no striking temples, throat, eyes, groin. etc
@williel1573 Backatcha. Sanda may technically be kung fu, if you insist on broadening the definition to include anything from China, but it's not Shaolin, instead is closer to real combat sports such as Muay Thai. When the Shaolin Temple itself has issued a public statement disavowing this man, and you're still defending him, it isn't me who knows nothing of Chinese martial arts. Your man, Bruce Lee, agreed that the traditional Eastern arts were useless without a new philosophy to guide them. The Ultimate Fighting Competition (UFC) has been going for decades. If you have people who can win, bring them. Talk is cheap. 🤷♂️
They are 2 different styles and you can never compare them. Respect for these 2 legends, they have been training all their lives, respect them. Because of them you had a fantastic night.
Two things 1. Everyone is different, meaning everyone can develop differently in the same martial art. 2. They're in a controlled setting (sports ring with rules)
That's right!! Its the time you spend practicing and learning. That makes you a better student and fighter. The top Muay Thai fighters have been training everyday all day since they were 4 or 5?
You ain't kidding brother. I didn't know that the human body can become so hardened until watching Muay Thai and the training they live there whole youth. It's incredible. Buakow has been robbed many times of victories because of judges under someone's thumb. Pisses me off because he was best fighter of his time.
Yi Long never be Shaolin monk, He was overhyped for marketing purposes. Anyway his iron shin was no joke. He endured twice of Sittichai's head kick . WTH
I agree outside the MMA world that wife beater White runs. Kicking, elbows, knees fists as long as it's not wrestling or BJJ where you spend your whole time on the mat. Boxing, kickboxing, Karate, Kung Fu. These kids grow up from 4 years old training. Damn. And fight hundreds and hundreds of fights. Crazy. And get paid crap. Even the Best make nothing compared to these 100 million dollar boxing matches in Vegas. It's sad
To me I respect any kinds of martial arts or fight, I am sure there are no such thing as KungFu or Muway Thai or whatever, it is pretty much depending on the person who use it with intelligence.
@vikaskyatannawar8417 not entirely. It IS indeed mainly centered around entertainment, HOWEVER, that doesn't change the fact that there are techniques taught in Mauy Thai as well that aren't allowed in the fights because of how dangerous they are. While Muay Thai may not have as many rules as UFC, the rules do still exist and prohibit the more dangerous techniques. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean that those fighters aren't practicing them.
As a kung fu loser myself I don’t want to admit to anything but Muay Thai has elbows and whatnot too along with other illegal moves so the argument is a bit moot there…. Although kung-fu has a lot of lower body blows and techniques that are restricted by gloves.. so does every other full contact martial art… so.. the difference is that kung fu is not tuned to sport specifically… except for Sanda which is… so.. a loss is a loss accept it and get better
They want it to be Muay Thai vs Fung fu, but they never allow Muay Thai to use elbows or clinchings.. Been that way since forever, and not just China/Kung-Fu who did that with Muay Thai.. just to proof a point
Yea don't forget that Traditional Kung fu (As any Traditional Martial arts, since they were born to be used in real fights) allows the use of elbows strikes and grappling. A Good Kung fu fighter, just like a Muay Thai one, has a good body conditioning. So remember that when Elbows Stikes are not allowed is not just about the muay that fighter but about both of them. So it's still an evenly match.
@@FrancescoRima yeahh.. but they still didn't want all those elbows and clinching in the game. But when they go to Thailand? Free for all, isn't that weird? Also, I think you are talking about "Sanda not Kungfu" which it was influenced from Muay Thai 😅
@@nonon0n0o No I'm talking about Traditional Kung Fu, All kung fu variants that nowadays exist are born from one single source: Ancient Kung Fu. Anyway they were both fighting with K1 rules, so not their world for sure.
@Muay-MMA "Flashy gay moves" That's part of their culture, like it is for china lol. And it's still something more like a "ritual" they're not used in fight, also because the things that work in a fight are the same for all martial arts. Anyway this comment makes no sense and has nothing to do with what we were saying.
I would say that a UFC style format would give us a much better look at which is more effective. While kickboxing rules take away clinches and elbows, it is a much closer format to Thai fighting than Kung Fu.
Rodtang is finally making like $300,000 a fight. The top tier Muay thai fighters make maybe $30,000 a year and they do not fight once or twice a year like our over paid Best boxers do. Thai fighters have 200-300 or more matches in a career.
The reason why a Shaolin fighter might lose against a kick boxer, is because the Shaolin fighter starts using kick boxing rules and not Shaolin Kung Fu. Because in Kung Fu you do not use all of your power at once, the fighter starts analyzing and testing the other fighter, gaging the other fighter's skill and power, then he would use any which style of fighting. You as a Shaolin Kung Fu fighter could get hit because you are a human, but when you hit back you end the fight.
this kung fu is weak as the real kung fu master to fight in a right in close combat there is 3 fundamental in that fight which i dont see Yi Long using
Don’t talk nonsense . All these shaolin tricks never work on real stages . It dosent matter you wear a glove or not the technique remains.When he loses he becomes not a shaolin monk . They can’t accept defeat .
Using the same "Shaolin Monk" against many different opponents doesn't really prove anything. Use different people on both sides and in the two fighting disciplines...
Not allowed her but I love elbows and knees as an arsenal skill set. Different training of both styles teach it. And even spinning ba gua (pa kua) style. I see a lot of crossover and modifications here. Tiger, snake, jaguar, praying mantis. Clinches, if done very quickly, lead to throws. I like the throws with immediate follow-up with the blitz of strikes and blows. Which is undoubtedly against the rules here. Yi Long is one of the best with a long solid history. He is a very good Shaolin student. You're not a master until you're a doctor and a meditator. It's just good to know that over 99% of anything online is pretty damn inauthentic.
Ive trained Wushu, Bukauw won both those matches. I don't discriminate, i love nearly all martial arts. Muay Thai is more ring oriented whereas wushu is not so much so there is a somewhat advantage there. In a street fight imo Kung Fu wins . Elbows in Wushu come from many angles and there are many styles to draw from so again imo kungfu would win due to a more in depth pool of skills. I love Mauy Thai they have many skills in the ring , hard as fock shins and arms though mine when i was at peak were hard as heck doing wushu , mauy Thai train in depth in this area.
Muay Thai is no fucking joke. I once was sparring with someone in training, and I accidentally kicked to high. The snap was just perfect to instantly nock him out. Granted, he was doing illegal moves, I should have payed much more attention
Like most things Chinese they cannot admit defeat for fear of losing face. Even if they lost. In the Buakaw fight No third fight to settle once and for all. Why? Chinese are scared their best will get knocked out by Muay Thai. When they will be forced to admit defeat. The fight experts and fans worldwide know the real score as 2 - 0 to Muay Thai according to the fight video. Except for the biased Chinese judges. It seems the only defeat that China will accept is if their fighter loses by knockout. It would be good for the Mix fight organizers to take note. To not allow judges to judge a fight against their own nationals or origin. So there can be no bias by any nation. This would go a long way in improving the integrity, honor and dignity of martial arts across the globe. Which is currently being spoiled a few bad apple nations.
Yeah that was absolute bullshit, they even made a rule to stop Buakaw from dropping elbows, the ref was 100% paid off and the entire event was a fraud. China may not be the best at martial arts but they do have a lot of money.
It's such obvious nonsense to ask: What's better, Gongfu or Muay Thai. It's always an individual fighter who wins. You might as well ask: Who is better? A fighter with more vowels in his name?
He isn't a Kung Fu master at all, and even if he was, Kung Fu does not use gloves, it isn't a sport. The only fair comparison would be a real fight with bare hands.
So many love to talk about how Shaolin monks "this or that" in the arena. And not one of those persons actually know the Vinya prohibition of using skills for entertainment and/or sports. In essence, if anyone steps into a ring claiming to be a monk...Shaolin or otherwise, that person is not a monk. The Buddha even forbade playing chess for Zeus's sake. What do you think he would have said about monks fighting for entertainment? Wake up. The internet should not be used as information without extensive research.
Yilong is a kickboxer dressing up as a Shaolin monk... Did he practice sanda? Probably! Did he practice wushu? Like most kids going to public school in China, so most probably... But he's a kickboxer! Just like The Undertaker is NOT an "undead", it's a C.H.A.R.A.C.T.E.R !
I think that's the problem.....the muay Tai fighter is using his training and style. The so called shaolin fighters are not even using their kung-fu. This is why they lose. Kung fu fighters seem to forget their training when it comes to the ring.......it's sad that a legendary style is embarrassed.
Any martial art can become great when practiced well with sparring trainings. The big controversies around the world is too biased and not based on scientific methods of judgement
If there were no ring rules, no fighter can match a genuine shaolin trained fighter. Yi Long isn't a true shaolin monk, just dresses up as one in my opinion.
@SouzaBruno-j9v No you didn't, all you said was that there was fake masters in every martial arts, which I agree with. But what I said was that you see it more in Kung Fu and Aikido. And that you didn't do anything to, prove I was wrong. It's like me saying, black people are the most profiled by the police. But then you come in, no you are wrong all people are profiled, which is also true. But that doesn't change the fact that black people are the most profiled. Just like their being fake masters in every martial art, doesn't change the fake that some martial arts have more fakes than others.
Seems to me that the one thing Shaolin monks have on their side is superior conditioning and stamina. The technique may look exotic, but we all know that most real fights are nothing more than some combination of boxing and wrestling. So, yes, my respect goes to the Shaolin monks, but not for the reasons most people would think…
Yi Long is actually not a Shaolin Monk as they went out of their way to say he wasn't.
A spokesman of the Shaolin Temple did a press release pretty much saying he was full of it.
That being said I am pretty sure he has been trained in Kungfu, just not by them.
Now the question is, would they admit if he was? While it's far more beneficial to them to keep the mystery factor up.
@@yspegel his techniques does not look like Shaolin kung fu. Actually, his techniques doesnt look like kung fu at all. His posture is almost the same as the muay tai fighters. The other kung fu guy technique was much more like kung fu.
@@yspegel That is a good point considering they are only supposed to use their skills to "Defend the weak" and expeditions wouldn't apply to that.
Could see them maybe saying it to save face.
Check out ranton he is a shaolin monk youtuber who said Yi long went to a Chinese kung fu school not the shaolin warrior monks.
Kungfu i have been trained is about sense, speed and power and changing of movement and techniques, however i could not see any of these key philosophical principals in Yi Long.
Yi Long is NOT a Shoalin monk. How do you people even have a job?
Ranton? Based
Thanks bro
Not a monk but he has trained himself in shaolin art.
No, he's not! And he does everything but not kung fu.
@@mihaimihai9254 he is a sanda kungfu user.
Sanda is basically kungfu kickboxing
Yi Long use the Shaolin Monk appearance as a gimmick, like in the WWE. No Kung Fu seen, more bad kick boxing.
I don't know what you're talking about. How do you imagine Kung Fu? Flying chinese people? The "acrobatic" part is just a little piece of Kung fu, and that's the consequence of their training, so it's mainly used in exhibitions. When it comes to fight, almost all Martial arts have the same style, that's because all we have are legs and arms, and what actually works in a fight is that. Now, the differences between Muay thai and kung fu are others, just like for any other style: The culture, the philosophy, the way of training, the body-hardening... But we should stop saying "that's not Kung Fu" because if we keep imagine Kung Fu as a Bruce Lee movie then no martial art will remain but Muay Thai and few others. Kung Fu is born as an Art of War, and that's what work in a fight now, and that's what used to work 2000 years ago.
@FrancescoRima Real Kung fu is dancing, and it sucks. There are some old Kung fu footage videos lol. Sanda isn't even Kung fu but a bad Chinese version of Muay thai 😂
All martial arts will remain. They are just heavily influenced by Muay thai as Muay thai has been doing this for decades, and influencing other kickboxing heavily.
No elbows and no clinching = no Muay Thai.
Seen many gyms who claim to be Muay Thai gyms, but don't practice any elbowing or clinching at which point it's just another half-assed kickboxing gym, just like that match against Buakaw was not a Muay Thai match.
bro shinned yi long and knocked him out tf u mean this isnt muay thai
@@Shirolumiinalia I guess you don't understand then that elbow strikes and clinching are literally part of what defines Muay Thai as a martial art, and they weren't allowed in these matches which basically just makes this kick boxing.
@@TearThatRedFlagDown bro tf if he elbowed then the tendency of the opponent is do bring him down or kick him
@@Shirolumiinalia
1: Absolutely wrong, you've definitely never been in a fight before nor trained in Muay Thai. If someone is in range to throw elbows you don't have space to kick and about "bring him down" wtf do you think clinching even is?
2: Not the point, the point is that two key features that define Muay Thai as a martial art were banned from being used in these matches, therefore it's not Muay Thai.
If kicks weren't allowed in a match then you wouldn't call that a kickboxing match either, would you?
I love elbows and knees as an arsenal skill set. Different training of both styles teach it. And even spinning ba gua (pa kua) style. I see a lot of crossover and modifications here. Tiger, snake, jaguar, praying mantis. Clinches, if done very quickly, lead to throws. I like the throws with immediate follow-up with the blitz of strikes and blows. Which is undoubtedly against the rules here. Yi Long is one of the best with a long solid history. He is a very good Shaolin student. You're not a master until you're a doctor and a meditator. It's just good to know that over 99% of anything online is pretty damn inauthentic.
No fighting style is superior, it's the fighter who uses it and how good he "reads" his opponent.
You are right bro
I understand what you're trying to say and half of it is right. But to say one style is not Superior to another would be misleading. The reason there are so many different fighting styles nowadays is because a lot of them are created in order to counter another known type thought to be superior. For example Judo used to be known as one of the greatest martial arts for the longest time, and then in Korea they created hapkido, which is literally a style for defending against Judo.
@@Travis_Stewart5422 you are right
In the list of the 10 Greatest MMA Fighters of All Time by MMA on Point,
-8 of the 10 trained in wrestling (only 2 could make the list with no wrestling)
-9 of the 10 trained in Muay-Thai (only 1 could make the list with no Muay Thai)
-9 of the 10 trained in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu (only 1 could make the list with no BJJ)
7 of the 10 trained in the combination of Muay Thai, BJJ, and wrestling
Wrong. Judo/Wrestling and Muay Thai are proven to be better styles
The problem is the Kung Fu guy is trained to strike the groin, throat, eyes knee caps etc. - The rules inhibit him from using his real arsenal.
The problem is the more Kung Fu you use the faster you lose. He's fighting as a kick boxer. Both men are similarly inhibited by the rules. Basically, Get Good Noob.
@@chasecarter8848you know kung fu is trained to kill right? Not just to fight…
What if you are trained in the use of firearms? Not being able to bring one into the ring is unfair to me.
@@MrJdebest😂😂
@@azzo3449it have rib or bone breaking techniques
its not kung fu. They have boxing gloves on and anti kung fu rules.
What do you mean by anti-kungfu rules?
@@DanMoridin no hand techniques for one because gloves. no death touch, no iron palm because gloves, gloves inhibit a lot of what Kung Fu is, no striking temples, throat, eyes, groin. etc
@@ScreamingEagleFTW Aw I forgot about the "death touch"
You have been watching too many movies.
@@ScreamingEagleFTW That kind of Bullshido is why xu xiaodong became so popular.
They blocked Maui Thai no elbows no clinches....
Yi Long is not a Shaolin monk and is not even using any kung fu.
Kung fu tournaments is kickbox rule😂😂😂😂
@@BollywoodyoyoNope, in Kung Fu tournaments you can use throws and get points for this.
@@Tazio25 not throw only sweep no low kick 😂😂😂
@@Bollywoodyoyo Which makes it kickboxing. Duh. 🤣😂🤣😂
@williel1573 Backatcha. Sanda may technically be kung fu, if you insist on broadening the definition to include anything from China, but it's not Shaolin, instead is closer to real combat sports such as Muay Thai. When the Shaolin Temple itself has issued a public statement disavowing this man, and you're still defending him, it isn't me who knows nothing of Chinese martial arts. Your man, Bruce Lee, agreed that the traditional Eastern arts were useless without a new philosophy to guide them. The Ultimate Fighting Competition (UFC) has been going for decades. If you have people who can win, bring them. Talk is cheap. 🤷♂️
Impressive! Those men are living weapons. Total respect for the hard living discipline!
What an amazing AI video using fight clips from others. Outstanding quality.
They are 2 different styles and you can never compare them. Respect for these 2 legends, they have been training all their lives, respect them. Because of them you had a fantastic night.
Great take on it! Positive
It is rumored that Long Duck Dong threatened to kick both their asses if they didn't stop it.
Two things
1. Everyone is different, meaning everyone can develop differently in the same martial art.
2. They're in a controlled setting (sports ring with rules)
That's right!! Its the time you spend practicing and learning. That makes you a better student and fighter. The top Muay Thai fighters have been training everyday all day since they were 4 or 5?
Buakaw did a showfight.
Even in Sparring or Training he kicks and punches 1000 times harder
You ain't kidding brother. I didn't know that the human body can become so hardened until watching Muay Thai and the training they live there whole youth. It's incredible. Buakow has been robbed many times of victories because of judges under someone's thumb. Pisses me off because he was best fighter of his time.
People should always remember it really isn't about the martial art, it is about the person
Yi Long never be Shaolin monk,
He was overhyped for marketing purposes.
Anyway his iron shin was no joke.
He endured twice of Sittichai's head kick . WTH
hye never claimed he was... LOL everyone else asumed simply by his choice of attire...
Muay Thai is the most effective fighting style in the world!💪🏼
Cough cough Silat stomps
Muay Thai is made to injure and fracture, kung fu can kill.
@@Weareflushedremix muay thay ez diff
I agree outside the MMA world that wife beater White runs.
Kicking, elbows, knees fists as long as it's not wrestling or BJJ where you spend your whole time on the mat. Boxing, kickboxing, Karate, Kung Fu.
These kids grow up from 4 years old training. Damn. And fight hundreds and hundreds of fights. Crazy. And get paid crap. Even the Best make nothing compared to these 100 million dollar boxing matches in Vegas. It's sad
To me I respect any kinds of martial arts or fight, I am sure there are no such thing as KungFu or Muway Thai or whatever, it is pretty much depending on the person who use it with intelligence.
The problem is, gloves limit what one can do with Kung Fu. Muai Thai uses closed fists, so gloves aren't much of a hindrance other than weight.
All martial arts are good and outstanding except Bullshido.
It's up to the "master" or the "user".
Respect to both of them!
this kungfu master is much more better than korean martial artis DK
Kung-fu is not designed for ring tournaments
yeah its made for pandas
Neither is Muay Boran, which is what Muay Thai originated from.
@@hellzonefirebrigade3056 not talking about originated.... Muay Thai is catered for sports/demo that's why it was made.
@vikaskyatannawar8417 not entirely. It IS indeed mainly centered around entertainment, HOWEVER, that doesn't change the fact that there are techniques taught in Mauy Thai as well that aren't allowed in the fights because of how dangerous they are. While Muay Thai may not have as many rules as UFC, the rules do still exist and prohibit the more dangerous techniques. Just because you don't see them doesn't mean that those fighters aren't practicing them.
As a kung fu loser myself I don’t want to admit to anything but Muay Thai has elbows and whatnot too along with other illegal moves so the argument is a bit moot there…. Although kung-fu has a lot of lower body blows and techniques that are restricted by gloves.. so does every other full contact martial art… so.. the difference is that kung fu is not tuned to sport specifically… except for Sanda which is… so.. a loss is a loss accept it and get better
They want it to be Muay Thai vs Fung fu, but they never allow Muay Thai to use elbows or clinchings..
Been that way since forever, and not just China/Kung-Fu who did that with Muay Thai.. just to proof a point
Yea don't forget that Traditional Kung fu (As any Traditional Martial arts, since they were born to be used in real fights) allows the use of elbows strikes and grappling. A Good Kung fu fighter, just like a Muay Thai one, has a good body conditioning. So remember that when Elbows Stikes are not allowed is not just about the muay that fighter but about both of them. So it's still an evenly match.
@@FrancescoRima yeahh.. but they still didn't want all those elbows and clinching in the game. But when they go to Thailand? Free for all, isn't that weird? Also, I think you are talking about "Sanda not Kungfu" which it was influenced from Muay Thai 😅
@@nonon0n0o No I'm talking about Traditional Kung Fu, All kung fu variants that nowadays exist are born from one single source: Ancient Kung Fu. Anyway they were both fighting with K1 rules, so not their world for sure.
@Muay-MMA "Flashy gay moves" That's part of their culture, like it is for china lol. And it's still something more like a "ritual" they're not used in fight, also because the things that work in a fight are the same for all martial arts. Anyway this comment makes no sense and has nothing to do with what we were saying.
Garbage click bait. This entire video should be 3 to 4 minutes way too much fill in here. There is not anywhere near nine minutes worth of content.
Whoever has more training and experience in full contact combat sports
This was Waaay better than the other video you posted about Kung Fu
I would say that a UFC style format would give us a much better look at which is more effective. While kickboxing rules take away clinches and elbows, it is a much closer format to Thai fighting than Kung Fu.
Not the style, but the fighter is what matters 😊❤❤❤
That wing chun monk had the Triad betting on him! 🤑
Again, he isnt monk.
The flag on the ref's sleeve is enough to know the winner lmao.
Bring these fights to North America, and everyone will be wearing gold and diamonds. PPV = 100s of millions of dollars 💸 💵 💲
Rodtang is finally making like $300,000 a fight. The top tier Muay thai fighters make maybe $30,000 a year and they do not fight once or twice a year like our over paid Best boxers do.
Thai fighters have 200-300 or more matches in a career.
People always say which style is better. It's who vs who, and not what vs what. BTW, a real Shaolin monk would never compete for money or fame.
The reason why a Shaolin fighter might lose against a kick boxer, is because the Shaolin fighter starts using kick boxing rules and not Shaolin Kung Fu.
Because in Kung Fu you do not use all of your power at once, the fighter starts analyzing and testing the other fighter, gaging the other fighter's skill and power, then he would use any which style of fighting.
You as a Shaolin Kung Fu fighter could get hit because you are a human, but when you hit back you end the fight.
Shows the difference between defensive martial arts and the sport where you try to kill your opponent using your shins and elbows
LOL Shaolin Monk fighting with boxing gloves.
Kung fu dude trying to do sloppy Muay thai? 😂😂😂
Yi Long become Yi Lie 😂
yet he never said he was shaolin LOL
They all know how to fight so this is entertaining
Exactly.
this kung fu is weak as the real kung fu master to fight in a right in close combat there is 3 fundamental in that fight which i dont see Yi Long using
Don’t talk nonsense . All these shaolin tricks never work on real stages . It dosent matter you wear a glove or not the technique remains.When he loses he becomes not a shaolin monk . They can’t accept defeat .
Kung fu master doesn't want the Gloves bc Its hard
It seems that none from China has yet to rival Yi Long in kick boxing even today. The guy is really tough.
problem is the Shaolin monk isn't even using kung fu
All is Kung fu.
@@darkness1602 ah
all I see is no form street fighting
He is using Sanda kungfu or Sanshou
Try IP MAN on d ring, whats the result?!!🤣🤣🤣
10 detik tumbang, ini bukan film 😂
Black pants guy was actually the only of these shaolin, tai etc i watched that actually knew how to fight.
Using the same "Shaolin Monk" against many different opponents doesn't really prove anything. Use different people on both sides and in the two fighting disciplines...
4:14
3rd challenge, the kung fu master was not present, in the end Buakaw won
Shaolin never consider him as monk he totally living like celebrity promote himself and do business 😂 dude just dress as monk for attention.
Looks like he's also a kickboxer... Odd to say he's shaolin when he doesn't use their techniques.
Yup. Looks like just a kick boxer in monk's clothing. 😂
Because he isnt Shaolin monk.
Shaolin monks techniques are slappy slap 😂
Not allowed her but I love elbows and knees as an arsenal skill set. Different training of both styles teach it. And even spinning ba gua (pa kua) style. I see a lot of crossover and modifications here. Tiger, snake, jaguar, praying mantis. Clinches, if done very quickly, lead to throws. I like the throws with immediate follow-up with the blitz of strikes and blows. Which is undoubtedly against the rules here. Yi Long is one of the best with a long solid history. He is a very good Shaolin student. You're not a master until you're a doctor and a meditator. It's just good to know that over 99% of anything online is pretty damn inauthentic.
the funny thing is many Kung fu or other fighter want to challenge Muay Thai but always have different rules. not allow elbows clinch
Of coarse it is disputed by Kung Fu fans. They are used to Kung Fu dance competitions. Style over substance.
It depends on the dog in the fight mostly, I've seen Karate guys kick ass on Kung Fu and the other way around.
Ive trained Wushu, Bukauw won both those matches.
I don't discriminate, i love nearly all martial arts.
Muay Thai is more ring oriented whereas wushu is not so much so there is a somewhat advantage there.
In a street fight imo Kung Fu wins .
Elbows in Wushu come from many angles and there are many styles to draw from so again imo kungfu would win due to a more in depth pool of skills.
I love Mauy Thai they have many skills in the ring , hard as fock shins and arms though mine when i was at peak were hard as heck doing wushu , mauy Thai train in depth in this area.
Muay Thai is no fucking joke. I once was sparring with someone in training, and I accidentally kicked to high. The snap was just perfect to instantly nock him out. Granted, he was doing illegal moves, I should have payed much more attention
Kung fu: Skill and hits
Muay thai : Kills the enemy
Like most things Chinese they cannot admit defeat for fear of losing face. Even if they lost.
In the Buakaw fight
No third fight to settle once and for all.
Why?
Chinese are scared their best will get knocked out by Muay Thai. When they will be forced to admit defeat.
The fight experts and fans worldwide know the real score as 2 - 0 to Muay Thai according to the fight video. Except for the biased Chinese judges.
It seems the only defeat that China will accept is if their fighter loses by knockout.
It would be good for the Mix fight organizers to take note.
To not allow judges to judge a fight against their own nationals or origin. So there can be no bias by any nation.
This would go a long way in improving the integrity, honor and dignity of martial arts across the globe. Which is currently being spoiled a few bad apple nations.
Yeah that was absolute bullshit, they even made a rule to stop Buakaw from dropping elbows, the ref was 100% paid off and the entire event was a fraud. China may not be the best at martial arts but they do have a lot of money.
It's such obvious nonsense to ask: What's better, Gongfu or Muay Thai. It's always an individual fighter who wins. You might as well ask: Who is better? A fighter with more vowels in his name?
I used to think monks are unbeatable 😂
2:47 I don't know why Monk Yi Long rushing in aggresive ,like Anger ,without Control.😂😂
Look up Yi Long vs Josh Pickthall. Bro got HUMBLED
He isn't a Kung Fu master at all, and even if he was, Kung Fu does not use gloves, it isn't a sport.
The only fair comparison would be a real fight with bare hands.
I thought these chinese arts guys did horse stance.... Why their kicks so weak? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He’d knock you out with his big toe that’s for sure
That ain't Kung Fu it's a Shaolin lol
5:06 for a very good JKD straight lead based punch. well executed!
Sanda is the only Kung fu style for fighting. Everything else is just acrobatics
Muy Thai rules will usually bring muy thai fighters to an advantage. And Shaolin rules would bring their fighters to success;)
So many love to talk about how Shaolin monks "this or that" in the arena. And not one of those persons actually know the Vinya prohibition of using skills for entertainment and/or sports. In essence, if anyone steps into a ring claiming to be a monk...Shaolin or otherwise, that person is not a monk. The Buddha even forbade playing chess for Zeus's sake. What do you think he would have said about monks fighting for entertainment? Wake up. The internet should not be used as information without extensive research.
Yilong is a kickboxer dressing up as a Shaolin monk... Did he practice sanda? Probably! Did he practice wushu? Like most kids going to public school in China, so most probably... But he's a kickboxer! Just like The Undertaker is NOT an "undead", it's a C.H.A.R.A.C.T.E.R !
I think that's the problem.....the muay Tai fighter is using his training and style. The so called shaolin fighters are not even using their kung-fu. This is why they lose. Kung fu fighters seem to forget their training when it comes to the ring.......it's sad that a legendary style is embarrassed.
Bro, let's have a fight, but you can't clinch or throw elbows with your Muay Thai.
That was definitely not kung fu. I don't even know what it was 😂
Any martial art can become great when practiced well with sparring trainings. The big controversies around the world is too biased and not based on scientific methods of judgement
Watching done sir😊😊😊😊😊
So Yi Long's 1:3 overall vs Muay Thai, 0:3 versus actual Thai masters.
If there were no ring rules, no fighter can match a genuine shaolin trained fighter.
Yi Long isn't a true shaolin monk, just dresses up as one in my opinion.
If there's no rules kung fu still loses.
@@greensprite4979 in your opinion. Just like I had my opinion.
@@tadebanjo Mine's fact yours is just an opinion. Kung fake like bruce lee.
Ovation for yourself.
Bruce Lee can beat them both champions of Muay Thai and kung fu together
Nothing worse when videos are edited to play the same thing over and over.
7:32 Siddhartha Gautama, the Buddha in the background ♾♾♾
I would not bet against a Muy Thai fighter. Monk Style seems less functional.
mma gloves should be appropriate. And thats why there is mma now..the proper venue for mixed disciplines
中国功夫是古代杀人的技术，不是用来比赛的。
Apparently they are performing just like WWE.
7:16 yi long is relying too much on strength and it’s way too obvious
Hes not a monk and thats not kungfu
4:35 qilala is wingchun practioner, not shaolin
he is from taiwan, he is one of the famous wingchun-adapted MMA fighter in taiwan
Bruce Lee would have no problem with either.
He looks good for show, not a real fighter mate
the fight with ronin and lala. bro took the chance to cheap shot my guy when he fell.
Let's have a Kung fu vs Muay Thai fight. By the way, you can't do Muay Thai things.
You think muah thai can fight bruce lee i don think so......
I think
Kung fu isn’t ment to be used in the ring like that. So it is in a disadvantage. I am not a kung fu fan boy but it’s not a sport.
Muay thai is iron vs plastic kungfu? Pweeee
Sanda is basically MMA but it's a Chinese version. IT'S NOT A KUNG FU.
Quote of the day: "Don't use white to defeat yellow but you need the brown to finish it.. "😆🤕😆
Long is just a normal fighter, he doesn't use any of the fake magic kung fu that is so prevalent.
@SouzaBruno-j9v True but it is much more prevalent in things like Kung Fu and Aikido.
@SouzaBruno-j9v I see you don't understand what the word prevalent means
@SouzaBruno-j9v No you didn't, all you said was that there was fake masters in every martial arts, which I agree with. But what I said was that you see it more in Kung Fu and Aikido. And that you didn't do anything to, prove I was wrong. It's like me saying, black people are the most profiled by the police. But then you come in, no you are wrong all people are profiled, which is also true. But that doesn't change the fact that black people are the most profiled. Just like their being fake masters in every martial art, doesn't change the fake that some martial arts have more fakes than others.
Golden bell can't resist Muay Thai.
Seems to me that the one thing Shaolin monks have on their side is superior conditioning and stamina. The technique may look exotic, but we all know that most real fights are nothing more than some combination of boxing and wrestling. So, yes, my respect goes to the Shaolin monks, but not for the reasons most people would think…
Spoiler shaolin wins always, but if you are not Chinese don't try to beat Muai Tai with Kung fu.
The Kung fu fighter is using everything but kung fu.
以前的武僧一龙❤成名後完全变质了😂現在是武僧一蟲😂😂名声一落千丈❤❤❤