I'm HOOKED - PDP Riffmaster Guitar Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024
- The PDP Riffmaster guitar controller is a solidly built product that knows what to keep familiar, while subtly embedding a few extras to render it the nostalgic product many of us have been seeking. The colour choice is safe and the strum bar’s spongey nature disappoints, true, yet in almost every other design and performance aspect is it a great way to relive the rhythm game glory days.
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speaking about the price, GH3 (w/ the guitar) was about 100 USD (99.99) on release in 2007 and adjusting for inflation that's about 149.65 USD. The price is not that bad AND with the ability to connect to PC you can play YARG and Clone Hero with whatever songs you want.
It is expensive though when you can easily get a mech arduiino for the same price.
Came with the game too though didnt it?
@@exan6970 I agree there are way better options out there, I have an arduiino guitar actually, but for the general public I think this isn't *THAT* bad.
@@jamiezannino7727 It did yes, so if you remove the 60 dollars the game by itself cost from the guitar hero bundle it IS cheaper but not insanely cheaper. I'm not saying this guitar is an insanely good deal (it's not) I'm just saying it's not *THAT* bad.
That's incredibly cheap I own a couple controllers for Japanese rhythm games that are 300+ each
bit of a correction to your video about the lower frets. This is not a PDP idea it's actually a Rock Band thing and probably a requirement for PDP to put them on. In Rock Band games (all the way back to Rock Band 1) the lower frets could be used to play the smaller frets which had the white glow on top of them (I forgot what they are called) without strumming, essentially tapping on the strings if it was a guitar and to mimic this. The very first Rock Band 1 guitar had them and was a requirement for peripherals ever since for that functionality.
Hammer ons and pull offs
a bit of a correction to your correction: HOPOs always acted as taps regardless of what frets you pressed, you just had to hit the note before it. the solo buttons (the lower ones) would make it to where you could tap solos without strumming at all.
@@xLuigi77x hmm I often tried to switch and my high frets often didn't register. Maybe it was the cheap RB1 guitars
guitar hero world tour is the one with touch slide frets at the bottom so to correct you, those where the ones you didnt have to strum with. i actually still have my ps3 world tour guitar and its my favorite to use. the slide frets are useless tho because its a feat only on world tour.
let me correct one thing here the lower frets were *not* a thing on rockband controllers until 4 came out because 1-3 didn't have controllers with those and if they did they were custom made
I hope they make more of these and and keep producing them so I can get one because it’s hella sold out rn
June is next batch
2 months later and still tough to get
@CJW0056 at standard price true atm it's all reseller prices
Just got the pc one, I recommend checking periodically and hope you get lucky. Got it then 5 mins later they were sold out again.
I ordered mine today on the website! go try your luck
1000% agree that the Guitar Hero guitars were the best. Specifically, the ones shipped with GH3. Both the frets and strum were so smooth, and the Rock Band ones didn't quite measure up.
Though the Rock Band drums always felt better than GH to me. Of course, I haven't tried and e-kit yet though.
Either way, excited to get one of these to play again.
I wish they made enough guitars or at least mentioned when the preorders was gonna drop like mentioned, hopefully they put another preorder up asap.
Yep heard nothing, checked it was a day ago, and gone 😂
I ordered two and it was 273.53 usd😳
However I’ve been buying used guitar controllers for years on eBay and Mercari and I always seem to have problems with them eventually. So I’m really happy to have two brand new ones!
That's exactly who these guitars are for, customers who want a guitar that is NEW and guaranteed to work out of the box. No funny business with 15+ year old guitar controllers that need a repair 50% of the time.
I only played GH3 back then so i'm pretty casual to music games, but did have a ton of fun back then and am excited to play RB4. So I also ordered 2 Riffmasters cause lesson learned my GH3 guitar did crap out on me and I had no backup guitar lol. I was conflicted on another $130 backup guitar, but your comment kinda reassures me.
Should I charge the backup once in awhile though? Wondering if not charging it at all for years will make the battery die out on it's own.
@@Treble_V2 yeah out of the 10 or so I’ve bought over the years almost all of them had something go wrong with them
@@imadubsfan1 I’m really excited too! I already bought dlc songs in rb4 and I don’t even have the guitar yet lol
Supposedly they don’t ship til may 1st :/
@@daynmitchell7543seriously? I've been checking every day for my order to update
Love guitar hero and rockband, so excited to get this🔥
I really hope they switch to mechanical switches like the later Guitar Hero controllers did. Hell, make it a feature that you can change the strum bar's click profile by swapping out different keyboard switches.
No one seems to know the jaguar also folded
i know i was about to say this
I’ve never seen one in person so I’d assume it’s rare
Unless there were different versions available, all the official Rock Band 4 instruments were made by PDP and had the folding design. I got two at launch that were like that, something fell on one and broke the wammy on one after about a year and I bought a mad catz one, which did not have that feature
considering you can use the ps5 controller on ps3 has anyone tried using this on ps3 to work with the older games
It doesnt hook up to ps3
@@JohnHenryEden-h9xfuc
@@JohnHenryEden-h9x You tried yourself?
@@JohnHenryEden-h9xit does if you connect it using a USB-C cable
i'm not sure about these PDP guitars, but i've had basically almost all types of guitar controllers from the PS3 era (RB1 Strat, RB3 red Strat, Beatles RB Hofner, GH3 gibson, GH 5 Guitar, Rip-off GH4 Multi-platform guitar),
and out of all of those, i honestly just LOVE the RB1 and RB3 Red guitars, especially the RB3.
i started with the GH5 red/white guitar and i felt that its buttons just feel really cheap and non-ergonomic, i found myself having sour fingers after just a few minutes of playing on extreme difficulty (the annoying part with these controllers is that they have marks on the guitar neck which really dig into your fingers when playing heavier tracks).
then i bought the RB Beatles band pack (just because i really wanted drums and this pack was so so cheap), i immediately liked the buttons and quality feel of that Hofner guitar, stopped using my GH guitars entirely, but the Hofner guitar was really not that comfortable, the guitar neck of the Hofner is a lot longer than the Stratocaster, which makes playing with it kind of a stretch because you literally have to stretch your arm to play with it - which makes it super uncomfortable to play while sitting - so i then bought a red RB3 stratocaster and holy shit i just fucking love the living hell out of this guitar controller, it feels super solid and high quality, it is soo comfortable i can literally play for HOURS and not have sour fingers - it is just amazing!
i then wanted to get a GOOD 2nd guitar for when i have friends over so we can play together, so i found a really good deal on a brand new RB1 Stratocaster and tried it out - it also was just so much better than any GH controller i've ever had, it doesn't feel like it has such a high build quality like the red stratocaster, but it looks and feels so much better than anything that came out of GH.
anyway, i was wondering if anyone had ever compared the older RB3 Madcatz controllers to the newer PDP replicas of them?
are there any significant differences, or PDP just bought the assembly and manufacturing plans from defunct Madcatz and just continued producing the exact same plastic guitars?
this Riffmaster looks like a significant step-back compared to the RB3 Madcatz red stratocaster i have, it kind of reminds me the build quality of the RB1 Stratocasters
Fortnite really got me shopping for 100+ dollar toy guitars
I do like the look of it. Hearing about the spongey strumbar though honestly makes me tempted to not get it until I see someone remove it manually. Also not being wired kind of sucks; Wireless is decent, but there's always latency and the chance that the battery starts to go bad and doesn't hold the charge as long as it's supposed to.
Yeah, I wish you could use AAs with it.
Wireless connection on this guitar is actually very good. Acai says that the connection and latency is better than anything previously released (consistent 250hz all the way), even better than the wired 360 xplorer and RB1 strat.
I finally found a riffmaster on amazon, but I live in canada, so I had to go on the us website and ship it to my address. I'm still waiting for it, and I know it's going to be good.
As someone who really only played GH3 back then, i'm excited to jump back into music games and preordered 2 Riffmasters. I only had the 1 guitar for GH3 and when the strum bar eventually broke on me I just stopped playing. Almost $300 for 2 guitars now, but at least they're brand new and i'm covered in case one craps out.
Accounting for inflation $130 USD isnt cheap, but is not bad either.
I have a question thats make or breat for me, does the controller have a notch on the yellow to know where your hand placement is? (Like how F and H on your keyboard have a Notch)
The fender Jaguar (released in 2016) was also foldable..
Stuck with RB4?! You make it sound like something bad. RB4 has a bigger dlc library and you actually own the content you purchase.
I LOVED Guitar Hero because of their controller.
When i got Rock Band, i hated their guitar controller so much that i basically ignored and only played the drums on that game.
So i am disappointed to hear you say that this is closer to a RB gtr controller.
You could've used guitar hero controllers on rock band even back then
"BuT iT WaS CaNcElLeD!!111" lol
have you tested the ps5 guitar on PC? I'm really torn on which version to buy because PDP is claiming that only the xbox guitar is compatible with pc.
They can claim all they want I’m sure it’s for some stupid legal reason. But in another review video it’s tested on a pc and works flawlessly it even lists on the side of the box for the ps5 version that it works on pc
Yes, I'm so curious because Acai mentioned whammy and tilt not working on pc?? I'm honestly considering cancelling my preorder and switching to the xbox version if that's the case simply for clone hero.
@@Dizmond I have to believe that once it comes out someone will update clone hero so all of it works. As it stands I’m using the Xbox Beatles rockband Paul guitar for clone hero and I hate it.
@@Jpansta My only fear is that since it's wireless it'll just refuse to send the inputs, as dumb as that would be. Hoping someone can clarify though (cough cough @Mirror.Gaming ) because from what I understand Acai didn't actually receive a PS one for himself
@@Dizmond Yeah, I just want some insight from someone who has the guitar!
Is the strum bar BAD? Or is it just quiet? I played alot of both GH and RB but i preferred the GH guitar. Finding a GH guitar that still has a dongle or the cord to connect to my pc is a hassel. Pulled the trigger on this because ive been ITCHING to play some GH
I was finally able to get one before the scalpers, it will be here on Wednesday I can’t wait! 😎
Does it work with Guitar Hero World Tour on PC?
(Specifically the Definitive Edition mod)
Pretty sure the Xbox version would be Xinput (which is the controller type that just works in most games). Not sure what the PS5 version would be...I hope it isn't Dinput.
@Treble_V2 i meant more in a way that the game would recognize it as a guitar and not some random xbox style controller or even just a keyboard.
I've had a few third-party guitar controllers that just got seen as a keyboard in the game, causing the whammy bar to not work.
I've seen a video of the Riffmaster working on Guitar Hero World Tour Definitive Edition, though.
With the player even going into the pause menu to restart the song and it displaying the guitar icons you would expect.
So i'm assuming that it does work natively.
(Instead of just showing keyboard prompts there)
So, i'm excited to get my hands on the Riffmaster when it releases.
I wish they would have a version without the analog stick on the back of the headstock. I've ALWAYS rested my thumb there and I feel like it will throw off yearly 20 years of muscle memory for me
Does it work on Clone Hero?
Yes
@@GmNdWtchr96 Aww, yeah.
Glad to hear it does work with clone hero! Play that all the time
This is the perfect time for this peripheral to come out, we're now grown humans with jobs from when Rockband 1 came out and have (a little) money to spend on these kinds of things.
I’ve never played with a soft strum bar. I hope it’s not too bad
After playing with a rock band 2 guiatr again recently I will say it wasn't as bad as I remembered but it still isn't exactly great. They really should have gone with a clicky strum bar.
@@masterblaster8354 From what other previewers have said it's at least the best feeling RB guitar to date. I've only played the RB1 one and didn't like the strumbar at all, but heard later RB guitars felt much better. So if Riffmaster feels even better than the improved RB ones then it should be pretty good.
You get used to it. Trust me.
im A GH guitar kind of guy but I love this guitar! feels a lot more like a RB guitar trying to be a GH guitar! honestly tho im happy with it and since no clicks I can play at any time of night and not disturb others
HOW DO I TURN ON OVERDRIVE?? WHICH PAD IS FOR THE BUTTON OF OVERDRIVE
The only thing I'm disappointed in is that it's not six fret compatible. It would have been nice if the upper frets were five and the lower ones were six (or vice versa). Or, better yet, put six a six fret setup just below the upper fives.
Did I see that right? Disconnecting the neck was on a hinge? Please tell me it locks in w/o the hinge...
The neck never disconnects, a cable runs through the hinge. You can actually play it while it's folded.
Rock band guitars have a niche feel to them that i appreciate. But for the harder songs i need a guitar hero guitar
Don't know if anyone mentioned this but if you buy the Xbox one you can use it on PC.
It if I remember right can be used with the emulators to play older games, plus Clone Hero.
PS5 one seems unable to do that.
Yeah, I just ordered one for use with Clone Hero. I'm excited to finally get an actual new guitar, instead of the many used ones I have gotten over the years.
I got my Xbox riffmaster yesterday And I can confirm it works on pc IF you take 3 seconds to install Vigembus and RB4 instrument mapper. short n sweet guide on YT. didn't even need to configure controls in clone hero. if you play YARG it should work right out of the box no Extra programs needed.
I can't believe people praise this guitar. They're insane for putting the mushy strummer from rock band in it. No thank you, I'd rather eat my marshmallows.
how is the lag when playing rock band 4 the wii guitar had lag when playing rock band
How do you use the surcharge in Fortnite Festival?
Will colored notes/lanes come to Fortnite Festival when this guitar drops?
Possibly not but the game does show button symbols under the lanes so maybe that will happen instead, the colour at the bottom of the lane as a symbol
I don't think anyone knows that answer for sure. But I was really disappointed that they didn't. It just adds to the bland appearance of festival. I really hope that guitar hero gets rebooted eventually. Festival is my least favorite installment of any rhythm game so far, for a multitude of reasons
@@SlayingMantis676 Yea true bro. :/ really hope for new rock band games
@@bh4vvy33t oooh okay :/
There's code that implies using a guitar will actually have a seperate chart, so this is fairly likely.
I played so much GH back in the day that it ruined my hand.The songs just kept getting harder and harder as the titles were released and had to just call it quits. I can't even play it anymore because of the pain that I get in the back of my hand.
I never liked the GH strumbars or the buttons. When RB came out with their strumbars and buttons, I never gone back. So happy this controller is like a RB controller!
Will this work with rock band vr
The lower frets, a feature of rock and guitars and later guitar hero ones, foldable neck, a feature on rockband guitars, man kinda knows nothing about these guitar controllers…
So is it compatible with Fortnite yet? I'm thinking about picking one up, but idk if it'll work lol
Its been compatible, the whole guitar was made because of fortnite festival lol
I would get PDP Riffmaster Guitar but they might bundle it with the remake of rock band for ps5 switch and Xbox because they remake rock band
does it work with ps3?
Brother..
Ugh, spongy strum bar is a deal breaker for me, especially at that price.
I'm waiting for Fortnite Festival to release more songs I would even want to play, and in the meantime maybe another guitar will come out that has a clicky strum bar and/or more colors to choose from. Since I'm on PC, my Raphnet adapted Wii guitar can use a third party program to be used with Festival, I'm just waiting for my specific adapter to work with the FestivalInstrumentMapper utility
we got a solid handful of Metallica songs now, let's goooo
Does it work with clone hero? That’s the main question
Yes I’m pretty sure. Acia already gotten it to work. It’s basically the blue Jaguar guitar that was included with the rock band 4 bundle. I don’t see the point for this to really exist.
So it's the rockband jaguar but with a dongle.
I will say $130 ain't bad though
@@Blueninja-hj7qkthe price is the worst part lol
@nopityfac8609 better than gambling with the $300 eBay guitars
Can you test if DJMax Respect V is compatible? It's a music rhythm game on PS4, Xbox, and steam. If the guitar works for it, I just might have to grab one.
They need to bring back the legacy adapter
Does the ps controller work for pc?
I've seen everyone who's reviewed one say it works on PC, but for some reason the PDP website says it's only compatible with PlayStation 4 and 5.
@@SlayingMantis676probably some bullshit legality with Microsoft. If you look at the other videos that show the box it shows a ps4/5 and a pc lol.
@@Jpansta I remember that, that's why it's so strange that the PDP website or any of the resellers don't mention PC compatibility.
@@SlayingMantis676 Probably cause they don’t want people to play clone hero, with the Microsoft version it’s a given it’s gonna work cause most operating systems are Microsoft. There was even a video I seen from I think it was IgN where he shows the guitar and it has a switch on the bottom to change between PS and Xbox. We’ll see soon enough though lol.
Why is the ps5 version 200 euros on Amazon France :(
Remote controllers were never $70 neither
Does this work with guitar hero live?
Considering how Live had the frets, I doubt it would be practical, if it even works at all.
The Jaguar was foldable.
I love that they added the joystick and the foldable feature. That being said I'm not paying almost $150 for a modified rock band guitar.
That's about what you'd pay for a well built modded guitar hero controller, or you can risk eBay and buy something that may or may not work for very long.
I think the worst thing about that guitar, other than the non-tactile strum bar Is the fact that they chose to make it glossy like that. Just handling it for the video, the thing looks disgusting. They could've gone with a matte finish so at least it wouldn't only look good for the first 30 seconds after you take it out of the box
Why are people throwing hundreds of dollars at this when used guitar hero guitars are like 10 times better
I mean, PDP also made the rock band guitars lol
Does it have lots of latency?
I have an Xbox riff master and the latency is 0 (to my perception) I can play on expert and have been getting better scores than when I used my wii guitar +raphnet adapter. (no hate she's old ❤)
New Guitar Hero game, anyone?
If only 😢
Has anyone figured out how to get the whammy bar to work on Fortnite
Can RockBand 2 guitars work with this dongle?
Without even testing, I can guarantee it won't
What game is this for?
Rockband 4 and Fortnite festival (soon)
Used guitars are going for upwards of $200. I'd say the price is pretty far all things considered.
glad i got 2 used guitar hero and a fender rockband guitar for 5$
I dont like the way those buttons look. Can I get a good clone hero player that uses GH guitars tell me how this is?
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Dongle for Xbox version? Dafuq
there are no non-microsoft wireless controllers for xbox that use their proprietary RF connection. some unlicensed controllers use bluetooth, but bluetooth isn't good enough for active gaming (rhythm games, fighting games, fps, etc.), that's why every pro controller uses a dongle in addition to bt compatibility, the bt is just for using with your smart phone. and before anyone says it - no, Nintendo Switch and it's controllers HAVE bluetooth, but they don't connect to the switch using bluetooth, look it up.
@@aeonjoey3d the pdp jaguar works without any kind of dongle on any xbox one onwards and it does not use bluetooth
same, i have the original set and 3 drums and my guitar connects with xbox one and series, no dongle needed@@dschidschi654
8 minutes of video and no actual gameplay…👍😐