Really enjoy your videos that I just started watching. Thanks to RUclips us older wiser folks can leave our hard learned knowledge to those who follow us
love your posts ,i have just started to play with older outboards,i got a 1967 johnson 9.9 carb was in bits in a can with a rebiuld kit asked if all the parts were there ,,rebiuld the carb and find out i am missing the bottom part of the air box ,,and the choke lever ...boy oh boy used parts are pricey ,my fault should have checked ..i am learning from my mistakes lol ,,keep up the good work
Hey. Thanks! I think you mean a 9.5, correct ? Or a 1977 ? If you think the the parts are pricey for OMC, dont ever buy a Mercury ! Hahaha. Any way, did you try ebay for used parts, thats where I go, and you can run it without the Airbox/silencer. They're getting harder to come by, but will run fine without it. Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 lol i am canadian ,,bc british columbia,,,i am in ontario ,,stay frosty my friend..your posts are entertaing as well as informing newbees like me
Your videos are pretty informative. I do have a suggestion. Heat that black goo with a heat gun for a couple seconds and it comes off alot easier. Just had the same thing happen to my 2000 25hp. The goo had gotten smeared into the sensor causing it to idle like crap.
Hey Ricardo. Thanks for tuning in. 130 is fantastic! Although it will run on 90 but not as well. Sometimes lower compression it caused by stuck rings. Especially if it's been sitting for a long time. It's a gamble, but sometimes you can get the rings to loosen up and compression will come back up. If it doesn't your stuck with a low compression powerhead. Like I always say, if it's got good compression the rest is just a pain in the azz! Hahaha Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Great vid! , Where is the best place to order powerhead gasket kits from for older Evinrude engines? I have a 69 Evinrude 18hp fastwin. But I can't seem to find any gaskets online for it. I know you rebuild a lot of older ones like mine.
Thanks. Go here and pick your model www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1969&hp=18 .You can buy from them or what I like to do is get the part # and search ebay for Best price, Quickest shipping and Closest location. But sometimes closest location dosent always mean faster shipping...
I watched this video and saw something similar on my motor. I shared that my E25TECOS was missing a little at WOT. Well I checked the cam linkage and everything and took a video and noticed the black ooz that you pointed out on this video. Like you said here this motor was running. So with the coil going bad would it also cause the engine to fall off at WOT? There isn’t that much black goo like on yours, but there is some. Thanks.
The rope trick is a very common procedure used on 2 cycle handheld equipment like chainsaws and string trimmers. With the puller I just put good tension on it and then hit the jack bolt with a 3lb brass hammer and the flywheel will generally releases if not a little more tension and repeat with hammer till it pops. I've seen coils on old equipment leak out like this Could be the new coils being grabbed by the magnets (different material than the old ones)
Yes the rope trick has been around for a long time, but from what I understand Hitting it with a Hammer is a Big No No in the outboard motor world. To each his own I guess. your on track with the magnet thing, but that was with the old coil. Thanks. Stay tuned !
Say man my 1989 Evinrude ain’t running right. I’ve had new plugs, carb cleaned and many other things. It run good and than just all of a sudden it want run wide open. You can tell it wants to a little, but I can open her up and just barley go. What is my problem? Is it trash in the carb or something?
Hey. That's where I would start. Check that high speed jet/orifice in the carb bowl. Do the flashlight test and make sure it's crystal clear. Check the nozzle too. Curious to know what you find out. Thanks again !
Hey I have a question for you my friend bought a 1989 25 merury outboard and we can't figure out why the manual rope wouldn't pull out it seems like there is a damn lock that prevents it from being pulled out so we taped it back and the motor fired right up is it called a lever lock and can we just by pass it Thanks BTW great video
Hey . Thanks. Honestly, I'm the wrong guy to ask. I've had three mercury's and dont know that much about them. But there probably is a safety lock on it so it cant be started in gear. Is there a cable or a handle coming off of it leading to the shift mechanism or is it just screwed up and jammed for some reason. You can check here for your model and try and figure it out . www.marineengine.com/parts/mercury-outboard-parts/ thanks again, Stay tuned !
I`ve had this before on some remote controlled motors. The magnet in the flywheel pulled when passing the ignitioncoil. It only happened when the remote cables where disconnected and the timingplate was loose to move.
Hey. The first /last time this happened to me it was a tiller model and your on track with the magnets. It should not be happening at all, cables connected or not. Total pain in the butt ! Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !
Enjoyed the video! I've got an old 25 evinrude, how can I check what year it it? Do you do this as a hobby? How did you learn all this? I retire next year that's what I plan on doing. It looks like a lot of fun.
Hey. Thanks. Your outboard should have an I.D. plate attached to the transom mount, Hopefully its the original mount, there is a model number on the plate, just look it up. If the plate is missing there is a round I.D. plate, about the size of a quarter on the powerhead , if that is missing too, the best thing to do is search pictures and try to match paint color and hood. And I guess you could call it a hobby ! Heres how I got started www.leeroysramblings.com/index.html
Hey, Yeah I know all about the ring. Dont need one. And yes everything was connected. As I said in the video I wrapped masking tape around the coil, p-pack & stator, put the flywheel back on and no rubbed marks on the tape ! Same as the last time this happened, but this time I figured out what was happening ! Yay. Stay tuned for the next Episode and Thanks for watching and commenting.
my master I have not found a gasket for my engine .. help me a solution ... in our country there are small workshops that manufactures the cylinder head gaskets ... is it going to succeed this idea or not?
Sun...? I think it was more from being severely overheated by having virtually no impeller in the water pump...? So how hot would it that engine have gotten under the hood with absolutely no cooling...?
It would have destroyed the motor if that were the case. Fortunately it wasn't. It only takes seconds to destroy an impellar running it without water. Black motor, Florida sun = High heat under the hood day after day after day melted out the already aging coil. Once that black material starts to deteriorate that's it. The black paint gets so hot you can't put your hand on it.
Hey. I know what your talking about and the supports on these later models are different. No ''ring' in there to get turned upside down, but your on the right track ! Thx. Stay tuned !
Hey. I'm pretty sure I got it at Harbor Freight. It's hard to see spark through the thick glass if your working outside in bright sun, especially if your using the pull start. Real pain in the butt! Thanks for watching and commenting . Stay tuned !
1989 is far to modern for my liking its practically brand new, its funny the more they modernized the design the more expensive it came to servicing and more replacement parts. The groovy 60's and swinging 70's is where its at baby lol.
Yeah Baby! I'm with You. Unfortunately those old outboards are getting harder and harder to come by. I really miss them and wish I had all of the ones I got up and running. It was sweet while it lasted but its looking like the 80's are today's Old Outboards. But thats Okay. I just sold the Myers jon boat, With my 62 18 horse, it broke my Heart, I loved that motor.
Did you pull the mag plate off and look to see if the plate under it is bent ? That would be my guess . Iv seen when people use a hammer and pry bar to pull the fly wheel would catch under the plate and bend it , instead of using the proper tool to remove the fly wheel ! Lol
well im no pro but electro cleaner,carb cleaner and an impact wrench are almost always a must working on anything.and while you were at it why not tape up those wires and now i bet he has the ring up-side down.we shall see.it just looked from last video that it was on wrong or part was too big.
I remember you fighting with that other set up....Did you replace the plastic mag plate bushing? If so, did you lube it properly? There must be some wear on the brass mag plate bushing and or crankcase pilot bushing...Did you use the OMC alignment ring? It sounds like you are saying that the flywheel magnets are actually not hitting any of the components, do I have it right? If so, then this is just the flywheel magnets moving the plate up/down/back forth when they pass by the charge coil/alternator windings. This is really not all that uncommon...Not great for sure, but not uncommon. I would replace the plastic bushing 322435, and make sure it is lubed properly. Run your finger nails over the brass mag plate bushing to see if it is worn. The only real fix for this is to replace the mag plate, but that won't help much if the crankcase pilot bushing is worn also...Finally, if the magnets are really not touching any of the components, I would just set the charge coil/alternator windings back in another .005" and just run it....Many are running like this today with no ill effects...
Hey Stranger. Nice to hear from you. And Yes I figured it out this time. I even mentioned You in the follow up video, and how you told/asked me about the plastic Baring if it was worn. I had no idea they wear out the way they do. And nothing is actually hitting the flywheel. Theres no real wear on the plate, its all in the plastic bushing and the support mount shows some wear. I was just editing the next video and got to part where I was rubbing my fingernail over the brass support and your comment popped up, Hahaha, funny. It looks liked it had worn down almost to a groove but no, it just took off a little of the gold color. I dont want to give away to much here of the next video, hahaha, got to keep the viewers in suspense ! Anyway, I'm just glad I figured it out, Finally ! And as always Thanks. Hope your doing well. Stay tuned !
Again powerpack Scr caps are starting to leak.some times they leak to the trigger side an kill that 4 volt coil.But omc loved there cheap Mexican manufacturing of there electrical parts
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with you sir always we learn a lot of technology .. thank you
my master I have not found a gasket for my engine .. help me a solution ... thank you
alllllright baby its that time again , you are the best
Hey. Thanks for tuning in!
Really enjoy your videos that I just started watching. Thanks to RUclips us older wiser folks can leave our hard learned knowledge to those who follow us
Hey. Thanks.I really appreciate you watching and a great comment. thx again. Stay tuned !
love your posts ,i have just started to play with older outboards,i got a 1967 johnson 9.9 carb was in bits in a can with a rebiuld kit asked if all the parts were there ,,rebiuld the carb and find out i am missing the bottom part of the air box ,,and the choke lever ...boy oh boy used parts are pricey ,my fault should have checked ..i am learning from my mistakes lol ,,keep up the good work
Hey. Thanks! I think you mean a 9.5, correct ? Or a 1977 ? If you think the the parts are pricey for OMC, dont ever buy a Mercury ! Hahaha. Any way, did you try ebay for used parts, thats where I go, and you can run it without the Airbox/silencer. They're getting harder to come by, but will run fine without it. Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 yep 77 sorry i got the airbox and choke for 40 bucks with postage from bc
@@petermoyes8766 Hey. Whats bc? Is that something I should know about ?
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 lol i am canadian ,,bc british columbia,,,i am in ontario ,,stay frosty my friend..your posts are entertaing as well as informing newbees like me
@@petermoyes8766 👌 Thanks
Your videos are pretty informative. I do have a suggestion. Heat that black goo with a heat gun for a couple seconds and it comes off alot easier. Just had the same thing happen to my 2000 25hp. The goo had gotten smeared into the sensor causing it to idle like crap.
Hey. Thanks for watching and commenting. Really appreciate it. Stay tuned !
Compression was 130psi, right? Which value (range) is ok for this outboard?
Hey Ricardo. Thanks for tuning in. 130 is fantastic! Although it will run on 90 but not as well. Sometimes lower compression it caused by stuck rings. Especially if it's been sitting for a long time. It's a gamble, but sometimes you can get the rings to loosen up and compression will come back up. If it doesn't your stuck with a low compression powerhead. Like I always say, if it's got good compression the rest is just a pain in the azz! Hahaha Thanks again & Stay tuned !
Great vid! , Where is the best place to order powerhead gasket kits from for older Evinrude engines? I have a 69 Evinrude 18hp fastwin. But I can't seem to find any gaskets online for it. I know you rebuild a lot of older ones like mine.
Thanks. Go here and pick your model www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1969&hp=18 .You can buy from them or what I like to do is get the part # and search ebay for Best price, Quickest shipping and Closest location. But sometimes closest location dosent always mean faster shipping...
And here we go baby
Hahaha . I figured it out this time ! Stay tuned !
I watched this video and saw something similar on my motor. I shared that my E25TECOS was missing a little at WOT. Well I checked the cam linkage and everything and took a video and noticed the black ooz that you pointed out on this video. Like you said here this motor was running. So with the coil going bad would it also cause the engine to fall off at WOT? There isn’t that much black goo like on yours, but there is some. Thanks.
Hey. no, bad coil will run rough at all speeds and hard start. Thanks again !
The rope trick is a very common procedure used on 2 cycle handheld equipment like chainsaws and string trimmers.
With the puller I just put good tension on it and then hit the jack bolt with a 3lb brass hammer and the flywheel will generally releases if not a little more tension and repeat with hammer till it pops.
I've seen coils on old equipment leak out like this
Could be the new coils being grabbed by the magnets (different material than the old ones)
Yes the rope trick has been around for a long time, but from what I understand Hitting it with a Hammer is a Big No No in the outboard motor world. To each his own I guess. your on track with the magnet thing, but that was with the old coil. Thanks. Stay tuned !
Say man my 1989 Evinrude ain’t running right. I’ve had new plugs, carb cleaned and many other things. It run good and than just all of a sudden it want run wide open. You can tell it wants to a little, but I can open her up and just barley go. What is my problem? Is it trash in the carb or something?
Hey. That's where I would start. Check that high speed jet/orifice in the carb bowl. Do the flashlight test and make sure it's crystal clear. Check the nozzle too. Curious to know what you find out. Thanks again !
I luv it.
Thanks for watching !
Hey I have a question for you my friend bought a 1989 25 merury outboard and we can't figure out why the manual rope wouldn't pull out it seems like there is a damn lock that prevents it from being pulled out so we taped it back and the motor fired right up is it called a lever lock and can we just by pass it Thanks BTW great video
Hey . Thanks. Honestly, I'm the wrong guy to ask. I've had three mercury's and dont know that much about them. But there probably is a safety lock on it so it cant be started in gear. Is there a cable or a handle coming off of it leading to the shift mechanism or is it just screwed up and jammed for some reason. You can check here for your model and try and figure it out . www.marineengine.com/parts/mercury-outboard-parts/ thanks again, Stay tuned !
I`ve had this before on some remote controlled motors. The magnet in the flywheel pulled when passing the ignitioncoil. It only happened when the remote cables where disconnected and the timingplate was loose to move.
Hey. The first /last time this happened to me it was a tiller model and your on track with the magnets. It should not be happening at all, cables connected or not. Total pain in the butt ! Thanks for watching and commenting. Stay tuned !
Enjoyed the video! I've got an old 25 evinrude, how can I check what year it it? Do you do this as a hobby? How did you learn all this? I retire next year that's what I plan on doing. It looks like a lot of fun.
Hey. Thanks. Your outboard should have an I.D. plate attached to the transom mount, Hopefully its the original mount, there is a model number on the plate, just look it up. If the plate is missing there is a round I.D. plate, about the size of a quarter on the powerhead , if that is missing too, the best thing to do is search pictures and try to match paint color and hood. And I guess you could call it a hobby ! Heres how I got started www.leeroysramblings.com/index.html
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 yes it's all original a friend of mine gave it to me. It's on a stick steer fiberglass boat he gave me as well.
@@markc4921 Sweet ! Does it have the I.D. plate?
Did you ever post what you had figured out with it!? I’m looking at one and picking it up Saturday just want to know Forsure!!!
Hey. I'm Editing it right Now! Hang in there, if not tonight, tomorrow morning for sure ! Thx. Stay tuned !
OMC has a metal ring tool that you put over coil power pack for correct spacing,did you put throttle cam back on?
Hey, Yeah I know all about the ring. Dont need one. And yes everything was connected. As I said in the video I wrapped masking tape around the coil, p-pack & stator, put the flywheel back on and no rubbed marks on the tape ! Same as the last time this happened, but this time I figured out what was happening ! Yay. Stay tuned for the next Episode and Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@THISOLDOUTBOARD1 so are we dead in the water with these 25 horsepower Evinrude?
@@SailingSarah Hell No. Hahaha Follow the Saga ! Thanks for watching !
my master I have not found a gasket for my engine .. help me a solution ... in our country there are small workshops that manufactures the cylinder head gaskets ... is it going to succeed this idea or not?
Hey. Best thing to try is Ebay. Do you have Ebay in your country.
Sun...? I think it was more from being severely overheated by having virtually no impeller in the water pump...? So how hot would it that engine have gotten under the hood with absolutely no cooling...?
It would have destroyed the motor if that were the case. Fortunately it wasn't. It only takes seconds to destroy an impellar running it without water. Black motor, Florida sun = High heat under the hood day after day after day melted out the already aging coil. Once that black material starts to deteriorate that's it. The black paint gets so hot you can't put your hand on it.
where is the sheet metal cam flower ? looks to be missing.
Hey. Thanks for tuning in! I don't know what a "sheet metal cam flower" is ?
My guess is to see if maybe the armature plate support, or the bearing support plate aren't upside down. Not sure if you took them off
Hey. I know what your talking about and the supports on these later models are different. No ''ring' in there to get turned upside down, but your on the right track ! Thx. Stay tuned !
Meanwhile you'd already be back from Harbor Freight by now with a brand-new impact...!
Hahaha yeah one of these days and it's a long ride to HF
Your flux compatister is miss aligned lol. Could the motor have overheated and wrapped the plate
Yeah I need to get a hold of Doc Brown ! I'm sure heat plays a part. thx Stay tuned !
What brand of spark tester is that and where can I get one?
Ebay
@@ACDC5540 which is the best quality? I bought a Lisle model and it fell apart after a few uses.
Hey. I'm pretty sure I got it at Harbor Freight. It's hard to see spark through the thick glass if your working outside in bright sun, especially if your using the pull start. Real pain in the butt! Thanks for watching and commenting . Stay tuned !
1989 is far to modern for my liking its practically brand new, its funny the more they modernized the design the more expensive it came to servicing and more replacement parts. The groovy 60's and swinging 70's is where its at baby lol.
Yeah Baby! I'm with You. Unfortunately those old outboards are getting harder and harder to come by. I really miss them and wish I had all of the ones I got up and running. It was sweet while it lasted but its looking like the 80's are today's Old Outboards. But thats Okay. I just sold the Myers jon boat, With my 62 18 horse, it broke my Heart, I loved that motor.
Mine now leaks water around the spark plugs
New Gasket!
if ring isnt up-side down then crank cld be bent a little.check the retainer ring in the centerup-side down maybe
👌Thanks again. Stay tuned !
Did you pull the mag plate off and look to see if the plate under it is bent ? That would be my guess . Iv seen when people use a hammer and pry bar to pull the fly wheel would catch under the plate and bend it , instead of using the proper tool to remove the fly wheel ! Lol
Yeah man, had to pull everything off. This time I figured it out. Just so time consuming. AARRRGGG 👅
lol do you edit these videos yourself?
Hey .Yes! I do it all. Very time consuming but its Fun. Hope You Are Entertained ! Thanks & Stay tuned ! You Never Know Whats Gonna Happen Next !
well im no pro but electro cleaner,carb cleaner and an impact wrench are almost always a must working on anything.and while you were at it why not tape up those wires and now i bet he has the ring up-side down.we shall see.it just looked from last video that it was on wrong or part was too big.
👌 Thanks for watching and commenting. Really appreciate it.
I remember you fighting with that other set up....Did you replace the plastic mag plate bushing? If so, did you lube it properly? There must be some wear on the brass mag plate bushing and or crankcase pilot bushing...Did you use the OMC alignment ring? It sounds like you are saying that the flywheel magnets are actually not hitting any of the components, do I have it right? If so, then this is just the flywheel magnets moving the plate up/down/back forth when they pass by the charge coil/alternator windings. This is really not all that uncommon...Not great for sure, but not uncommon. I would replace the plastic bushing 322435, and make sure it is lubed properly. Run your finger nails over the brass mag plate bushing to see if it is worn. The only real fix for this is to replace the mag plate, but that won't help much if the crankcase pilot bushing is worn also...Finally, if the magnets are really not touching any of the components, I would just set the charge coil/alternator windings back in another .005" and just run it....Many are running like this today with no ill effects...
Hey Stranger. Nice to hear from you. And Yes I figured it out this time. I even mentioned You in the follow up video, and how you told/asked me about the plastic Baring if it was worn. I had no idea they wear out the way they do. And nothing is actually hitting the flywheel. Theres no real wear on the plate, its all in the plastic bushing and the support mount shows some wear. I was just editing the next video and got to part where I was rubbing my fingernail over the brass support and your comment popped up, Hahaha, funny. It looks liked it had worn down almost to a groove but no, it just took off a little of the gold color. I dont want to give away to much here of the next video, hahaha, got to keep the viewers in suspense ! Anyway, I'm just glad I figured it out, Finally ! And as always Thanks. Hope your doing well. Stay tuned !
Good, glad it worked out....
@@fleetwin1 👌Thx
Ask Kodibass..This is a strange issue.
Hey. I think he watched it the first Time it Happened. Anyway I figured it out ! Finally. Stay tuned ! thx
Again powerpack Scr caps are starting to leak.some times they leak to the trigger side an kill that 4 volt coil.But omc loved there cheap Mexican manufacturing of there electrical parts
Hahaha . Thanks
JUST FIX IT
I Did ! Stay tuned for the Next Episode ! Thanks