Pass Labs Versus Gryphon Amplifiers? Who Won? FIND OUT NOW!

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • Time to find out which amplifier you selected during our last shootout. Was it Gryphon Antileon Signature or was it Pass labs xa160.8?
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Комментарии • 111

  • @jaysaudiolab
    @jaysaudiolab  Год назад +9

    Thank you for the support. Please continue to subscribe and like these types of shootouts because that is really the only way for me to know that you appreciate content like this and that you want to see more comparisons like this. Thanks again!

  • @andregoulet3446
    @andregoulet3446 Год назад +5

    The way you described the Pass Labs is exactly why I chose number 2 in both samples
    It was fun and you did a great job! :)

  • @hagayhofeller5046
    @hagayhofeller5046 Год назад +2

    Thank you Jay, for this shout out - and for the description of the different sound characters - it really helped me choose the new addition to my system

  • @chuanyewlee9502
    @chuanyewlee9502 Год назад +4

    Thanks for doing this tests. Its no denying that what we saw here is a 20-30 year old stereo amp take the fight to a set of brand new monos and came out standing tall. It shows just how good this Gryphon amp is.

  • @shanestephenson8423
    @shanestephenson8423 Год назад +4

    Great shootout, Jay. The production value of this one was right up there. The flipping backwards and forwards really illustrated the differences in the amplifiers as little as there were. If there had been a 5 second or longer gap between each presentation, you would lose the ability to pick up the very minor differences here.

  • @user-eh3qz4zv1o
    @user-eh3qz4zv1o Год назад +4

    Jay, I'm surprised as much as you are, I too liked presentation 2 better for which I thought was the Gryphon. It had more depth, bass and more of a down to earth tube sound. I would have never known this if it was not for your channel! Great job...

  • @ddzarafonetis1831
    @ddzarafonetis1831 Год назад +1

    Great Video with very useful info..Jay your at your best when providing such info for us to apply to the systems we have at home...

  • @scarmenl
    @scarmenl Год назад +2

    Thanks, myself, I would choose Pass Labs.

  • @jbsaudio
    @jbsaudio Год назад +1

    Thanks Jay for the shootout.

  • @adaboy4z
    @adaboy4z Год назад +6

    I tell you who winning is the guy who sold you a $30k amplifier. He is the king!!!

  • @albell-lf7hd
    @albell-lf7hd Год назад +2

    Would be very interesting if you could compare some best Class D amps with these top ones. Thank for your great videos

  • @jaysullivan9545
    @jaysullivan9545 Год назад +1

    Thank you Jay. Enjoy yer Sunday.

  • @faysalriaz1312
    @faysalriaz1312 Год назад

    GREAT JOB. Another fantastic review and discussion. Really learn a lot from your channel. THANK YOU

  • @rasmusnordstrom52
    @rasmusnordstrom52 Год назад +1

    Very interesting, thank you very much for the hard work you put in! Hoping to see som TAD gear in your lab in the future - based on your impressions earlier.

  • @johnp36
    @johnp36 Год назад +1

    Nice video Jay. Fair and informative, based also on my experience. Thank you!

  • @chrislazar7357
    @chrislazar7357 Год назад

    All that beautiful equipment and little to no room treatment. That was the first thing I heard on this video.

  • @williamtaylor5193
    @williamtaylor5193 3 месяца назад

    Jay described Pass well. One of the reasons why the brand does so well is the non-fatiguing, tube-like warmth. When you spend tens of thousands on electronics gear, being able to live with that gear for years, playing all sorts of music, is vital. You never get those skreetchy, etched highs from Pass.

  • @Expedition18
    @Expedition18 Год назад +1

    Super fun and very informative.👍

  • @tomdebeck8150
    @tomdebeck8150 Год назад

    A shootout video of your 2 dac's will be great!

  • @chebrubin
    @chebrubin Год назад +1

    I am liking.
    And subscribed. Great discussion.

  • @mahasidha9
    @mahasidha9 Год назад +2

    Here is a wild card; please don’t laugh but I read German Stereoplay and in their monthly Rang und Namen they ranked the Michi M8 Monoblock Amplifier very highly; I believe they weigh 130 lbs., each! Retail is 15K for both; perhaps insert them as an example of how much can be had in “affordable” amplification & point out what we are NOT getting.

  • @gadymarcus5297
    @gadymarcus5297 Год назад +2

    magnifico.💥💥💥💥💥💥

  • @rrd1975
    @rrd1975 Год назад +1

    To keep great comparisons like this shootout coming, all we've got to do is subscribe and hit the like button? Sounds like a great deal to me!

  • @xsamitt
    @xsamitt Год назад +1

    You rock....Hope your sunday is going well!

  • @belfort777
    @belfort777 Год назад +1

    Jay, Wilson Audio uses Spectral electronics in its loudspeaker development work and evaluation. Will we see Spectral system together with its dedicated MIT cables on your channel?

    • @jaysaudiolab
      @jaysaudiolab  Год назад +1

      Maybe

    • @belfort777
      @belfort777 Год назад

      @@jaysaudiolab Maybe all the time you are missing what all those Wilsons are capable of ;)

  • @perfectsoundpursuit007
    @perfectsoundpursuit007 Год назад

    Very good shootout ! To Gryphon Antileon is need to use power cord Audioquest Dragon . You make this in the past . I use it .. BR

  • @RickRoberts_simplyrick
    @RickRoberts_simplyrick Год назад

    Martin Logan CLS with stands, twin left/right subs and an electronic crossover

  • @_SURTR_
    @_SURTR_ Год назад

    Hi. What is the fundamental difference between "signature" and "evo". Is the signature much worse than the new antileon? Bass/Dynamics

  • @mjlawrence70
    @mjlawrence70 Год назад +1

    Jay -- Thank you for this shoot-out. I love your channel. Since the XA-160.8 is out of my budget, I'm curious how much the XA-60.8s capture the sound qualities of their more expensive sibling. Is it possible to say whether the XA-60.8s capture the same overall quality but with less power?

    • @user-od9iz9cv1w
      @user-od9iz9cv1w Год назад +2

      I suspect they have a similar signature. He voices all his amps with the same crew of listeners all using the same speakers. Steve Gutenberg aka Audiophiliac did an interesting 3 part interview where he describes the process. He is a thoughtful, cool, down to earth and brilliant designer.

    • @jaysaudiolab
      @jaysaudiolab  Год назад

      Not in the same league. Inferior bass

    • @benjaminmensah5075
      @benjaminmensah5075 Год назад +1

      Bro buy Van Alstine DVA M750 instead. It will smoke the Pass Labs

  • @mrgiggles7840
    @mrgiggles7840 Год назад +2

    Jay - which amp do Wilson - they themselves - recommend for your speakers ?

    • @jaysaudiolab
      @jaysaudiolab  Год назад +1

      There's no recommendations. You do that on your own

    • @mrgiggles7840
      @mrgiggles7840 Год назад +3

      a $350,000 speaker and they give the customer no amplifier recommendations - that seems odd ......

  • @novola1972
    @novola1972 Год назад

    Jay, thank you for the great content.

  • @klkl6659
    @klkl6659 Год назад +3

    I listened six times presentation no 2 pass 160.8 had better hologram and definition and better price I was expecting that despite audition through you tube is not for the most exact inference.

  • @davidrivera2165
    @davidrivera2165 Год назад +2

    Results were exactly as I thought.
    I would say that the result in demo #2 was primarily due to the tracks you selected. As I had commented in demo #1 the tracks had a lot of artificial reverb emphasizing the appearance of being more 3d holographic (which personally I don't like much, as it can never be reproduced in a live performance).
    Jay I encourage you to do a blind shootout between a world class tube pre-amp and Solid state linestage both feeding your boulders. I will predict that most of your followers will prefer the tube preamp in synergy with the world leading class A boulder solid state monos. This combination, when done in synergy with dac and cables delivers the best of both camps ( musicality and holographic soundstage of tubes, and the micro details, fast transients, dynamic fast bass control of solid state).
    Thanks for your excellent work Jay.

    • @jaysaudiolab
      @jaysaudiolab  Год назад

      Thank you

    • @grayd5848
      @grayd5848 Год назад

      I did the test between my Luxman c900u and an Ares Cerat Incito S. To 3 sets or very different ears the Luxman was preferred. In fact one said the AC lacked the soul that so many speak of. She called it boring.
      I however still want to find a great sounding tube pre that I can alternate into my system for some change of pace. I've tried 5 and more will follow. None yet have been as good and different enough to consider. It always comes down to synergy.
      Thanks for the massive amount of work you are doing Jay. Fun to see.
      Enjoy the music all. 🎶🙂🎶

  • @snomofilms
    @snomofilms Год назад

    Cool

  • @brentcollins9727
    @brentcollins9727 Год назад

    That was awesome

  • @gastonguev
    @gastonguev Год назад +1

    En español: Bien Jay, después de ver muchos videos tuyos acabo de suscribirme a tu canal. Por favor haz una reseña y prueba del Gryphon Diablo 300 (que quiero comprar por estar dentro de mis posibilidades económicas y creo que también el de muchas más personal que ven tu canal) compáralo con su equivalente mas próximo te vamos a agradecer mucho. Congrats and ..To infinity and beyond...
    In English: Hi Jay, after watching a lot of your videos I just subscribed to your channel. Please make a review and test the Gryphon Diablo 300 (which I want to buy because it is within my financial means and I think many more people who watch your channel also) compare it with its closest equivalent, we will thank you very much. Congratulations and... hasta el infinito y mas allá...

  • @forgedevo3342
    @forgedevo3342 Год назад

    20.7s & 2/Rel Carbon Specials, Coda v3 800w@4ohms $35k

  • @rvaillant
    @rvaillant Год назад +1

    A tremendous amount of work and money involved to bring this shootout. Really unheard of. Thank you.

  • @kevin-zd4po
    @kevin-zd4po Год назад

    So what’s a better dac, the esoteric or the NSB select?

  • @khunopie9159
    @khunopie9159 Год назад

    I purposefully never click on shorts, because the more shorts I watch, the more the algorithm will recommend shorts. Shorts suck. period

  • @KimodoCrow
    @KimodoCrow Год назад +3

    What is the purpose of this test of running a seemingly metal pen on heat-sinks and amplifier covers and comparing sound signatures? Are both of these amplifiers Class A? Perhaps the composition of the chassis, the heatsinks, amp cover, etc. should be revealed so investigation can be done to determine if your "pen-test" is valid as far as the component's sound signatures are concerned.
    Never heard of microphonics concerns with solid state power amps.

  • @georgechronis3169
    @georgechronis3169 Год назад +3

    A better comparison would have been a set of Pass Labs X600.8 Mono amplifiers. The Gryphons are not Class A amplifiers. I have several had Gryphons come through my shop. I never felt the need to keep a Gryphons around.

    • @grzegorzlagut8917
      @grzegorzlagut8917 Год назад +1

      Gryphons is amplifiers class A of cours! This symbol class A on the World.

  • @paolocaldarini1278
    @paolocaldarini1278 9 месяцев назад

    Ciao complimenti per tutte le elettroniche che hai avuto modo di sentire.. Cosa ne pensi delle elettroniche mcintosh... Secondo me è un prodotto mistificato.. non all altezza di dove viene collocato... Scusa per l italiano

  • @emirsalihovic4869
    @emirsalihovic4869 Год назад

    Fantastiše

  • @gme10955
    @gme10955 Год назад

    I wonder how much the build quality of the chassis really contributes to the sound of a product? Probably no way to actually test this.

  • @Music2Die4
    @Music2Die4 Год назад +1

    In the room, Amplifier A might sound better than Amplifier B....... But with the microphones, video compression, signal degradation, the sound of the users' computer rigs/gear, etc., Amplifier B might "synergize" with the recorded audio better than Amplifier A..... I think there should also be some feedback from listeners actually in the listening space..... You'd be golden if the video responses agree with the responses from those actually in the room. (You may have already done this, but you might want to "match" the sound of the video to the sound you hear in the listening space.)
    For this reason, I personally cannot judge the sound of a system via a recording of the system alone..... Even though it otherwise sounds very impressive! 😃

  • @rx4unyc
    @rx4unyc Год назад +1

    Biamp with a pair3
    2 of ml3 mono

    • @ThePerfeckted
      @ThePerfeckted Год назад

      Great Idea. Vertical bi-amp may be very interesting.

  • @marvinbolden6882
    @marvinbolden6882 Год назад +1

    I would knock you out if you scratched my amps with a pen.😃

  • @rx4unyc
    @rx4unyc Год назад +1

    Lamm ml3

    • @danlivni2097
      @danlivni2097 Год назад +1

      Lamm 2.2 hybrid amps which are 200 watts

    • @rx4unyc
      @rx4unyc Год назад

      Have m2.1

    • @danlivni2097
      @danlivni2097 Год назад

      @@rx4unyc Which slam 2.1 amps do you have? Do you have the single-ended tube amps, or the 200 watt hybrid.amps.

    • @rx4unyc
      @rx4unyc Год назад

      @@danlivni2097 2.1

  • @ngalloy8696
    @ngalloy8696 8 месяцев назад

    😂Gryphon Real Pure purple copper liquid sounds vs PassLap Rought Rusty Tin metal live Eco Sound😊. That how it compares

  • @MMBLO622
    @MMBLO622 2 месяца назад

    My Pass Labs X350.8 is very hot. This is something I don't like Pass Labs amp.

  • @andrefortune8278
    @andrefortune8278 Год назад

    This is normal buy vintage rebuild 👌🏾 best value for money the signature sound all dacs chase no denying 🤣😂😭

  • @MrBoomtheroom
    @MrBoomtheroom Год назад

    When decent mic setup 😒😒

  • @rx4unyc
    @rx4unyc Год назад

    Gryphon

  • @AudiophoolDeBunkHunter
    @AudiophoolDeBunkHunter Год назад

    Just listening to 3s... The reverb of the room is so pronounced I would never give more attention to this pile of BS. 🤣

  • @qddk9545
    @qddk9545 Год назад

    Unusable video, but nice dancing.

  • @rx4unyc
    @rx4unyc Год назад +2

    Just get tubes

    • @davidcross890
      @davidcross890 Год назад +2

      If You Require far greater distortions

    • @groovesick
      @groovesick Год назад

      @@davidcross890 tubes (unlike what manufacturers of solid state gear would like you to believe) actually distort less where it matters most: right when the signal starts. Most solid state gear measurements are made at high power. You need to right speakers to take advantage of tube gear, but your statement (while not wrong) does not tell the full story - far from it.

    • @AT-wl9yq
      @AT-wl9yq Год назад +2

      @@groovesick Their comments don't come from experience. Some people get all of their listening experience from reading, looking at spec sheets and guessing. Put them in a blind test, and they can't tell anything. I've done it many times.

    • @rx4unyc
      @rx4unyc Год назад

      Never heard 100% solid with
      That is listenable for extended
      Periods
      We live in an artificial world
      So most of the equipment
      If you want..0001% distortion
      By a a Japanese integrated

    • @davidcross890
      @davidcross890 Год назад

      @@rx4unyc my current monoblocks near 475lbs each on my virtually perfect power feeds have a full emotional and incredibly convincing engagement and zero fatigue factors even after several hours of continuous listening with vanishingly ultra low distortions not even remotely possible with other ultra high designs that I am aware of

  • @turkandproud69
    @turkandproud69 Год назад +1

    What pass labs do u recommend for the maestro evo? I like to listen pretty loud and play low frequency house music

    • @jaysaudiolab
      @jaysaudiolab  Год назад +1

      Consider my consultation service before you embark on buying anything

  • @sparkplug5392
    @sparkplug5392 Год назад

    purifi amplifiers smoke these at a fraction of the cost