The Imperium Is ACTUALLY NICE SOMETIMES! - Imperial Doctrine And Philosophy Across The Galaxy!
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- #shorts #warhammer #warhammer40k #rpg #ttrpg #darktide #warhammerlore #warhammer40klore #warhammer40000 #warhammer40000lore #chaosspacemarines #carcharodons #worldeaters #calth #dropsitemassacre #horusheresy #wordbearers #ultramarines #monarchia #khorne #nurgle #tzeentch #nightlords #totalwarwarhammer3 #spacemarine2 #spacemarine #Aeldari #gamesworkshop #newboxset #eldritchomens #blacktemplars #tyranids #new #Orks #imperialguard #astramilitarum #warhammer3 #deathkorpsofkrieg #killteam #catachan #blacklegion #ultramarines #imperialfists #ironhands #tau #minotaurs #cursedfounding #boltgun #gamesworkshop #games #arksofomen #10thedition
Игры
Edit: TO THOSE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE WORDING, PERENNIALISM IS A PHILOSOPHY ABOUT RELIGION. PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE USED THE WORD PERENNIALIST!
From the book, Faith and Fire. I did a presentation on perennialism last year. Neat stuff.
I think our bar for "nice" has gotten real low
I love the music you use in your videos, could you please add a link to it or the name for us in every one?
@@VonBrachsenbrueggesong name is at the end of the video
My first thought was Perennialism is the belief of some very extreme people like Evola and that fits with the Imperium
I don’t think anyone failed to understand the wording. Someone failed to use it correctly.
Gunna suck for the last world when a necron king sneezes and accidentally blows up their sun.
"Ummmm, The Emperor... uhhh... deemed them unworthy... mmhmm..."
-Ecclesiarch high-priest, with an inquisitor sweating even more profusely than he is.
@@nthedecent7717a dumbass xenos shoved itself up big e’s nose. What followed was natural causes
@@nthedecent7717 They could probs just say that only a shard of the emperor resided there and they have failed to protect it and thus must atone for their sin, or seek retribution in the name of the emperor.
Religion lore update
It’s funny cuz they can’t sneeze
Explains how those nice purple folks spreading the word of the Four-Armed Emperor gets so popular in the galaxy…
Imagine joining a gene stealer cult but not actually being infected. You just went because it looked fun.
@@revanamell1791Even better (worse) they can tell automatically somebody isn't infected but they let you get along. A "clean" prayer spreading the word to the other regular people will not risk the whole operation if Ordo Xenos happens to be there executing suspects.
I'm more inclined to the cool purple blue bird one that knows things.
That does make a lot of sense.
I mean, i've been to a couple of meetings, and they are very chill people. Plus the preacher made a lot of sense. The representative that contacted me had a bald head, which isn't very attractive, but she was mad thicc so i went..weird ridges on her head, too..
"So, you're telling me that the great beasts roaming in the woods is actually the Emperor?
-No, those are freaking bears, Bryan."
The God Bear of Mankind
I like how some worlds are “oh you believe in another god? Well that’s actually another version of Big E” or “Yeah he’s the legendary blacksmith” or something and then some other are “did you just misread this line of the holy text? HERESY” and then the guy gets killed
We've done this in our world as well.
@@KyokujiFGC yeah, but less extreme. At least we don’t kill other over *words*
@@labbit35Oh yes we have throughout the entire history of us even to this very day,remember that witchburnings were not that long ago.
Here in america,take the shackles of law and order off and it could happen more easily than people would like to believe,,
and for other worlds,ONLY because we don't have the capability,,,yet
@@labbit35mostly cuz we only have one
@@labbit35 Yeah about that...
The emperor Is basically the Kwisatz Haderach of 40K
Dune is one of the original inspirations so yes
It is more like roman imperial cult where you could join roman emire as long as you add roman emperor to your pantheon of gods. On reason why romans were super harsh towards jews was because they were monotheistic, hence they wouldn't accept roman emperor as a godly figure.
@@nenadmilovanovic5271 romans were harsh against ((them)) not beacuse of their religion, romans were harsh beacuse they killed and grpd non juice
@@72skci72Fanfic
@@72skci72 omg they killed juice? Orange or apple
Dominance through "Acceptance"
Makes u think. Lol
"Oh the mechanical sun-god you worship? He's the God Emperor!"
Hey, it worked for the Romans! 😂
Literally what the emperor punished Lorgar for doing....
Well, the ecclesiarchy is preaching what Lorgar wrote...
Black templars got their custom of chaining their weapons to their wrists from Sigismund, who learned it fron the World Eaters
It's a cruel irony. Emperor didn't want to be a God when Lorgar saw him as one, but by turning to Chaos Gods and ensuring their victory he essentially forced Emperor to become one, so humanity had some chance of surviving.
The Librarius was Magnus’s creation, the Chaplains were Lorgar’s, and the Imperial Cult was based on a screed even Lorgar discarded.
@@TheNemesis432 not really the irony is that the Emperor who hates religion used the basis of Christianity as the icons he showed/used when conquering humanity to unite them.
In lore its probly since its been around for ages and is in the collective unconscious enough to be recognized. I mean Giant Flaming Sword, great and glorious appearance, huge comforting figure, Halo, all projected into the minds of others. Christian angel iconography.
Maturing is realising that the life of an average imperial citizen isn't complete hell
Testify!
Real
It depends greatly on what planet an imperial citizen is born in
@@jotarokujo156 The majority of Imperial worlds are classified as "Civilized worlds" which have a reasonable population and are mostly self-sufficient. Most of them are on the technological level of the early 3rd millennium, which means anywhere between the year 2001 and 2400 giver or take. Now, life isn't guaranteed to be great or anything but it's not like every person is enslaved and forced to work in a continent-sized factory 20 hours a day
All beliefs in the God Emperor, no matter what form he's worshipped as, are accepted, for the Emperor watches over all of the Imperium.
I wonder what effect this has on E's overall cohesion and stability. He never wanted to be worshipped at all, let alone as 99 flavours of choose your own headcanon
@@ambion19He does make use of it as it is a way of protecting humanity from chaos.
@@ambion19you know how when Robot Gorillaman talks to the emperor upon reawakening. And all that comes out is a contradicting word jumble? I bet part of that is because he is worshipped so differently.
thanks to certain primarch who now a traitor
Last good thing he did.
Cant blame him. If giant stud radiating golden aura suddenly descend from the giant spaceship from the outer planet at front of me, I would too, make fan fiction about it.
@@lightborn9071*only good thing he did
Darth Sidious Would love this Galaxy
He would be in his element here😂
He would hate it knowing he's small fish here
Sidious would probably get murked by an inquisitorial retinue for being an unsanctioned 'psyker' or for trying to empire build
@@lashedandscorned while he couldn't affect the setting at large, it's gonna take more than a few inquisitors to kill him
I REALLY want Ian McDiarmid to play Malcador in any show or movie we get in the future. I need to hear the little cackle he did as Palpatine when he's talking to the Primarchs or the Emperor
I wouldnt say learned more like there was no one to tell them they shouldn't worship Big E like a god so they did. When Rowboat Girlyman came back he was wanted to crush it all but too much time had passed and he was like fuck it we ball
Plus he's had to come to the conclusion of "Even if its technically not true, its still an "in practice true" fact, as the emperor's power is such that it really comes down to semantics about "is a God a God if its scientifically explainable but is otherwise unchanged?"
Being brought back from the dead by the presence of big E inhabiting his body is kind of miraculous anyways you look at it even if there's a "logical" reason for it.
"Let me preach his name! " yeah i would also want to know what his name is????
Neoth revelation motombo
Slicka slim Shady
Grandfather Nurgle, mortal…🥰
MY SCARS PROVE MY WORTH!!!
"LET ME..INSPIRE OUR MEN"
YOU HAVE CHOSEN, WISELY!!!!!1!
The irony is...The Emperor HATES to be treated like a god
Then he shouldn't have spent so much time ACTING like one
“How can we make this about us? 🤔😈”
- Imperium
At this point they have in fact turned him into a god of chaos. Belief in 40k has a huge impact
I don't think you understand Chaos. Be grateful.
@@tamlandipper29 I understand chaos and the lore of the warp better than you may believe
Actual "nuh-uh yuh-huh" moment in here
@@Oh-five-six-nine a bit more than "yuh huh " moment. I know someone your age haven't really had the time to learn warhammer 40k lore, but at this point BIG E himself is more or less a warp god aka chaos god aka a warp intity.
@@Bgh583 Why are you saying this like it's new information? I'm well aware of what the Emperor is, the same as anyone who's been in the fandom for more than a month. I was commenting on the "nuh-uh yuh-huh" moment the both of you took part in. Common sense, my friend. We're not in the 41st millennium yet. 💀
Gotta love how all of this is, Lorgar Aurelin's work, the orchestrator of the Heresy
Still very funny knowing that EVERYTHING the modern day Imperium's doing is exactly what the Emperor as their dying wish had asked his subjects NOT TO DO, he never wanted to be seen as a god and expressed that time and time again and yet here we are an Imperium doing the ultimate heresy by denying their Emperor his dying wish.
I believe in one of the Eisenhorn books, a heretic learned that the reason why the Imperial Cult took over the Imperium was because, after the horrors of the Horus Heresy, some believed that promoting belief in the Emperor's Divinity was the only way to ensure stability across the ravaged Imperium. The idea that humanity had a powerful God as their sovereign gave people the hope and devotion to keep going and keep the Imperium together.
Even Roboute Gulliman, as disdainful as he is towards the Ecclesiarchy, admits that tearing it down and telling everyone "my dad is not a god" would destroy the Imperium.
You have to remember that everything the imperium does is for the good of mankind including using new lost tech as there are many tales of how easily corruptible each aspect of life there is. For example using and development of AI could lead to mass chaos corruption
If he didn't want to be called a god, why did he make himself appear 14ft tall and clad in golden armour?
Malcador stated this exact scenario to the Emperor during the Great Crusade.
People will start deifying him because he legitimately looks and acts like a god. This is best exemplified by Lorgar.
He dismissed Malcador, saying that will never happen. Again, Big E's hubris being his downfall.
Big E can be awfully dense about human nature sometimes
"blood soilled over a single verse"
I hope theres have been planet sized ears for centuries
It‘s easy to forget just how vast the Imperium of Man is. We are still talking millions of worlds and they don‘t have any AI to manage the flow of information for them. So even if they wanted to keep every single letter of their creed in line (which wouldn‘t even be practical cause it means many more rebellions) they couldn‘t.
Also in many ways the Imperium overall is very pragmatic. Sure there are zealots everywhere but the higher ups will usually take a world that sees the emperor as a big wolf in the woods but would 200% die for that wolf wholesale, over a world that somewhat believes the creed but would second guess an order to move all their men to a trench that‘s very crucial dfor the imperium overall
Their vs They're war was crazy
What if, all the pieces of The Emperor's soul are all worshiped by these different iterations of the imperial cult.
Considering the Emperor is a super shapeshifter, this is actually pretty funny lol
The quotes from the priest are some of the best in Dawn of War.
I had a homebrew world where the faith in the Emperor is based on old Celtic myth and legend- the Emperor is known as the "King of the Faeries", and keeps his court deep in the woods.
Gives me the same energy as, "Let me speak to the people, Piccolo".
That's actually new lore for me and i've been in this for a while thanks!
I consider it kinda sad. In earlier editions it was widely known that imperial religion and culture weren't so widespread. Galaxy was full of miriad different traditions, customs and cultures that still were part of Credo. Ministorum did Missionaria Protectiva things from Dune to make sure everyone believed that the Emperor is god of humankind, but myriad variations bloomed. There were only three rules each world had to follow: venerate the God Emperor, pay your taxes (in men, resources and psykers), do not associate with enemies of Mankind). Beyond that you could have democratic planets in the Milky Way Galaxy. The Imperium really felt like an actual Roman Empire where you had Roman customs, Roman governance and Roman administration next to unique local variations of compliant, but different, people. Something like local government and federal government.
Now all this magnificent variety just got crushed beneath great simplification that each imperial religion is Catholic Church in space and each imperial planet is the same Soviet regime in space.
THE MESSIAH
Jesus Christ: 🗿
"He is not the Messiah, but he is a very naughty boy!"
-Malcador
@@zillafire101Disappearing for two thousand years, Malcador is spitting facts
The emperor protect
The Emperor: “It was MEEEE! I WAS THE TURKEY THE WHOLE TIME!”
Blood for the Emperor! Skulls for the Golden Throne! The Emperor cares not from where the blood of the heretic, the witch, and the alien flows, as long as it flows!
I was expecting a "Jooohn Ceeeenaaaa!" After "let me preach his name"
Gotta love me emperor but. Also gotta love exodites
people need to remember this more
“Oh Lord God Emperer Leto, guide my bullet, let my enemies know me as death. Oh Horus, where art thou victory.”
The Emperor: *I am not angry that you did the opposite of what I taught you. Just disappointed.*
Emperor: Who taught you this?
Mankind: YOU DID DAD! I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU!!!
Casper is so hype man! I love it!
Tzeentch probably finds this shit HILARIOUS
“That have since UNLEARNED…”, corrected.
“Let me preach his name!!”
Localization: “LET ME COOK!!”
Out of curiosity, what do you think perennial means?
oh crap, the ancient greek planet is going to have a version of the emperor which auctally has the primarchs as sons
Reminds me of the Roman empire(obviously has a lot of inspiration from it but still), like when they'd conquer new land's they'd let the people there continue there beliefs,laws, and practices as long as they recognized the Romans gods and payed tribute to them. Sorta the same way with the imperium but with emperor being a form of there previous god's
Ave Imperator Dominus.
"My devotion...is assured"
*the gigachad 4 armed emporer*
The XVIIth Legion would be proud
Pax Romana in SPAAAAAAAAACEEEEE
Thanks logar
nice adding a pic of Remleiz
Telemachus? I love gw naming.
It makes sense to deverse the emperor worship.
I wonder how Darth Sidious Would think of The 40k Galaxy or the Imperium
( He's pretty powerful.He actually Wood qualify as a Alpha plus psyker Because he was pretty powerful in legends )
Honestly if he learn the problems of the imperium or The relationship between the emperor and his sons He would do what he does best His long term manipulation😅
( I wonder, Which primarch He would like the most or Which of the primarchs Would listen and follow him or See him as their father )
The main question, would he give himself for chaos or no
Decent chance he won’t but woild be funny a daemon prince sidious of tzeetch or khorne absolutely annihalate everything
But seriously, he would try to manipulate the world around the emperor being nothing more than a liar, sinner, betrayer. Another thing he needs to do is spread the word of chaos and get as much people to know about chaos
mega yap tbh
Dark Side of the Force already looks like your average Chaos sorcery, so I'd say Darth Sidious would easily be Chaos Undivided preacher.
Copy paste 🙄
@@MGrey-qb5xz😅
there is absolutely no way he's an alpha plus
probably Iota level
Rome all over again. Ahh, syncretism.
The emperor is a night light.
That’s what Rome did with other civilizations. “Oh, that lightning god you worship? He’s actually Zeus which is OUR lightning god.” However, they did have a harder time with religions that differed widely than their own like the monotheistic ones.
some of these religions are probably Loregar's doing when he was creating the imperial truth.
just like catholosism during the roman empire days
Now I want to play D.o.W II now, thanks
TTS Emperor: Just because what you believe about me is probably true, it doesn't mean you should worship me as a god... But you should still do what I say.
Checks out. Dude literally has multiple forms
🗣️LET ME PREACH HIS NAME
YOU LOST BECAUSE YOU WERE ALL WEAK! I remember that with the priest with my ogryns. then I had the priest use his special and my fat bois smushed anything in their path
How would you best describe religion in 40K: It is both illegal and State mandated
Catholics vs protestants IN SPAAAAAACCEEEE😂😂😂😂
Yea...catch 22
Was that the mechanicus 40k theories?!?!
I miss the part where it shows them as somehow being nice. That's just cunning and calculated
Reading through the Horus Heresy series now, and I am just seeing how far the imperium will eventually fall from its height. They were this close… and Horus fucked it up.
That's probably not good for his sanity.
We don't care how you worship the Emperor! Only that you do!
i do love that the Tau are falling to this same thing. the more faith oriented aliens with psychic abilities join the the greater good the more powerful their "chaos god" becomes, they literally have no choice if they wish to proceed with spreading the greater good to accept the fact that chaos will consume their race just like everyone else. Seemingly Shadowsun will be something like the emperor chosen by their god already, and farsight like horus, though he seems to be resisting chaos so far, i cant see him winning that battle.
Their only chance to avoid this is to become like the empire and destroy everyone who isnt Tau
i-run boot
B-b-bu-but dark empirium a-a-and the 40k galaxy is the worst place to live
Miral is where Lord Inquisitor Remleiz is from???
The raptor skull faced inquisitor artwork does not belong to you and I sincerely hope you got permission to use it.
"tele-mak-us" 🤢
It's tele-muh-kuhs"
Honestly I am impressed by the amount of Times Warhammer is Like the real life
The Why Files, say otherwise.
Strangely enough this is kinda how real life religion was spread back in early......"conversion" The Holy Roman Empire couldn't go converting thousands of people after executing a few thousands without trying to ad hoc relate their "pagan" gods to THE "god" without somehow mixing them together.
See this is where Im confused, Lorgar wanted to worship and spread the Emperor's name as a diety wouldn't he be satisfied already in the current setting?
IIRC the Roman empire before Christianity did stuff like that. They'd conquer a group and then intergrate their faith as different representations of gods in the Roman pantheon.
This is also the part of the story where someone else rolls along and immediately annihilates the population of said planet for heretical idol worship.
Even with a hearts and minds campaign on par with the ancient Romans or Egyptians, the bulk of the more fervent imperium still regard idol worship with extreme callousness.
Imagine you are greeted by winged angels in suits of armor so big they tower over your mightiest warriors, they tell you your god is an extension of the god emperor and it is ok to worship that effigy, only for your people a couple thousand years later to be visited by a man or woman wearing black clothes with an symbol of an Inquisitor to say "You're all heretics; you will be purged."
The empirium went full Christianity lol
Gaslighting on a universal level
Ol Lorgar won this one.
I dont understand your use of "perennial" here. Can you explain it for me, please?
Perennialism is a philosophy about religion
@@DeadliftsForTheDarkGods excellent, thank you! Ive now googled it and learnt something new. It's apparently the recurrence of themes across religions that suggest some kind of universal truth about something.
The very start, just no. The Imperium didn't slowly accept anything. It was a civil war that let the Imperial Creed replace the Imperial truth and empower the Eccliasarchy.
That actually was something that christianisme did for real, like with the celtics, they didn't reject their heralds, but made them saints.
Smell like buddha
In noctrum he call as promethus? correct me is i am wrong
"Learned and changed greatly" hahaha hahaha get out of here
In the real world the Catholic Church would combine christianity with local beliefs. Some official Saints might have more with local pagan gods than real people. Christmas Trees come from a previous holiday called "Yule". God throw lightening because of Zeus.
What about Mars?
who made the image at 0:34 ?
This is a chaos channel because who says the imperial cult? -no correction inputted-
Wow the religion built around the empire is really spread the EXACT same way the Roman Catholics did it too 😂