I remember even the big name producers doing this at my internship. All of those super expensive monitors in an acoustically treated control room and it all comes down to how it sounds in a Honda Civic 😂
Hahaha. I had to pause this vid at the beginning & laugh out loud when you said “I took the mix out to my car & it all fell apart.” It’s funny because I watched this vid at work after I uploaded my mix to my iPhone to listen to it on the way to work earlier that day. Same EXACT thing happened. The song has a clean intro, just guitars, no drums, build-up to the heavy riffs. Once the bass & drums kicked in it was boom central. Lol. Sounded good on my studio monitors, headphones, earbuds too, but in the car, complete mud on low end. I’m using Logic Pro, using the Vintage Console EQ as one of the plugins on the stereo out. I had the Low gain at +1 only but the Low Frequency at 110hz. Plus after I bounced down & did some mastering I had Linear EQ on with it boosted around the same, 110-250hz. So after work when I got home I lowered the Console EQ Low Gain to 0, changed frequency to 40hz. Then bounced again & in the master template pulled down the notch from 110-250hz down to a slight cut in that range. Sounds way better now, low end is definitely managed & not booming out of control. Mix isnt perfect yet by any means, but thanks for your vids & Crisp/Clear Heavy Mix Formula. It really is helping my mixes become better with each mixdown.
Thanks for some very helpful info. You told a fib around the 5-minute mark. You said the compressor is set to a low ratio while the video clearly shows that you have the compressor's ratio set to inf:1.
First! (lifegoals!) Awesome video..again! i;d love to see you do a full mix on a song , instead of portions of a mix.. how you work from start to finish@!
I am new to recording so I definitely have a ton to learn. I really appreciate these videos. I’m writing playing and recording my own material for a hobby but I’m trying to make it sound as good as possible. It’s a hell of a good time.
My transition from a pretty good amateur to a decent professional happened the second i fully understood the "mix as a whole" concept (my humbleness is clipping, isn't it...). Another great video, cheers man!
@@FrightboxRecording I subd for sure. Just found you yesterday. Im new to the recording and mixing scene. But ive been playing for years. Its a whole new ball game. Thanks for sharing this knowledge. You rock! 💪🤘
Ich schaue seit Jahren Videos zum Thema Mixing. Dieser Kanal ist wirklich mächtig! Gerade wenn man Metal mixt! Gerne hätte ich sowas vor 15 Jahren geschaut. Alle Videos sind klasse und helfen einem weiter. Das mit vorinstallierten Effekten alles gezeigt wird, macht es wirklich machbar und nachvollziehbar. Geiler Kanal!
Fix my low end.......hmmmmmm sexy! Didn't that get me down here in the first place? Maybe my hustle game wasn't slick enough! Lol, unrelated! I like metal! Keep rocking :)
Thanks Bobby, another great informative video! Really appreciate you taking the time to make these. It would be helpful if you would cover your thought process on how you approach Gain Staging!
Here's a tip for low end: Ever wondered why your low end is inconsistent? Like, some low notes of the bass guitar just jump out, while others aren't enough? It's because of the compressor. The bass guitar produces more highs than lows or lows than highs, depending on what the bass player is playing. The compressor doesn't care, it just sees the overall level of the whole spectrum and compresses by it, making your low end very dynamic. If you set your compressor detection filter for the bass, on where consistency matters (like, ~between 60-700 Hz), the lows will stay consistant, and only the highs will vary. This will not alter your tone like a multiband compressor would, as the relation between frequencies will stay the same.
Yea I usually separate my bass tracks between low (0-250ish hz) and high (359ish-5-6k) and absolutely crush the low track with limiting and even still the higher notes disappear a little bit, it’s annoyingly as fuck
Awesome tips, could you maybe someday show how you would fix the extremes of low end? (like you said, either it gets too boomy or too thin); this video shows more if you had a thin mix but what if you have a booming low end, how would you attack it? Thanks!!
I'm currently struggling with this at the moment so your tips come in handy ! Is there a way I could have your opinion on some of my current work ? Thanks for another Super Duper video !
Big question, what if it is just the kick drum that sounds too boomy, how do i fix that? Like too much resonance in the lowest end? is it too compressed? not compressed enough?
Hey frightbox! loved this video! Quick question: when we are approaching our master chain, should our end-goal tonal balance low end (100ish and lower) be intact before we even hit the SSL? Or should we hit the master bus with less bass and then add our low end back at the very end or toward the very end of the master chain? All concerning trying to avoid smushing up a limiter with a bunch of low end and ending up with a squashed song.
@@jeffsnider9869 Hello Jeffrey! I always aim to get the tonal balance right within the mix itself. I'm not a fan of doing a whole lot on my maser bus chain. I never add low-end back in on my master buss chain. You can check out exactly how I handle the master bus chain in this video: ruclips.net/video/8TIIzwRdlqk/видео.html
200 or more is how much I take lows I take away when it comes to my lead guitars. Works so well. Absolutely right about tracks sounding dull until they are played with other tracks. I agree. I’ll have to keep those other two tips in mind for my future projects. Love your stuff Bobby.
Lmao dude wtf I was trying new things with low end today and struggling. Turns out I was high passing my kick way too much. I was high passing at around 50hz with 12-24db/octave and not leaving enough room for bass (unless the song is just fast steady double kick and it super low tuned I like to have the kick below the bass) but of course I tried just not high passing the kick and now that I’m done I check my phone and see this video lmao awesome as always. Also, does the distortion that L1 sometimes gives depending on how hard you crush the bass bother you? In your video it’s only a couple dB but with a horrible recording it’s sometimes way too dynamic and I have to crush it
I have a question, i downloaded your Quick EQ Guide and i noticed (in the video) that you did not cut everything below 30hz. Is really necessary to do that action?
Great question! In this case I high passed everything below 30HZ on my drum bus. This only affects my kick since everything else is high passed above that individually anyway. I did it this way because my kick's channel strip didn't have a steep enough filter slope, so it made more sense to do it on the stock EQ that's on my drum buss. This lets my kick dominate between 30-60hz and the bass sits above that.
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Don´t you think MV2 is a better solution for problem #2 ?
Just simple compression and EQ. I'm using the old school Metric Halo Channel strip in this video. Pretty much on par with most stock channel strips these days.
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Testing the low end at the car is the best trick !
I remember even the big name producers doing this at my internship. All of those super expensive monitors in an acoustically treated control room and it all comes down to how it sounds in a Honda Civic 😂
@@FrightboxRecording I've been doing that for years. If it sounds good in the car, you did your job.
car test is a TORTURE, but its a must. when you think everything is fine and done, plug it in the car audio and cry... hard as real
Hahaha. I had to pause this vid at the beginning & laugh out loud when you said “I took the mix out to my car & it all fell apart.” It’s funny because I watched this vid at work after I uploaded my mix to my iPhone to listen to it on the way to work earlier that day. Same EXACT thing happened. The song has a clean intro, just guitars, no drums, build-up to the heavy riffs. Once the bass & drums kicked in it was boom central. Lol. Sounded good on my studio monitors, headphones, earbuds too, but in the car, complete mud on low end. I’m using Logic Pro, using the Vintage Console EQ as one of the plugins on the stereo out. I had the Low gain at +1 only but the Low Frequency at 110hz. Plus after I bounced down & did some mastering I had Linear EQ on with it boosted around the same, 110-250hz. So after work when I got home I lowered the Console EQ Low Gain to 0, changed frequency to 40hz. Then bounced again & in the master template pulled down the notch from 110-250hz down to a slight cut in that range. Sounds way better now, low end is definitely managed & not booming out of control. Mix isnt perfect yet by any means, but thanks for your vids & Crisp/Clear Heavy Mix Formula. It really is helping my mixes become better with each mixdown.
Thanks for some very helpful info. You told a fib around the 5-minute mark. You said the compressor is set to a low ratio while the video clearly shows that you have the compressor's ratio set to inf:1.
I know I'm a few months late, but these tips have helped me greatly. Thank you my dude
First! (lifegoals!) Awesome video..again! i;d love to see you do a full mix on a song , instead of portions of a mix.. how you work from start to finish@!
Keep an eye on your inbox if you're on my email list...got something cool coming next week that I think you'll dig :)
@@FrightboxRecording I second this 🙂 I'll love to see your workflow 🙂 and yes I'm on the email list 👌😎
I am new to recording so I definitely have a ton to learn. I really appreciate these videos. I’m writing playing and recording my own material for a hobby but I’m trying to make it sound as good as possible. It’s a hell of a good time.
Thanks for watching!
I prefer to let the kick drum be the lowest as well. Especially for rock and metal. Great video brother.
Thanks dude!
I really have to thank you man, you're Channel has extremely liftet my mixing skills since I found it.
Stoked to hear that Mirco!
that makes sense considering bass guitar is just a lower extension of the guitar and should scale linearly with the guitars frequency response
Very helpful video Bobby! Thanks man!
Thanks for watching Devin!
Love all of your great tips Bobby! Always apply them to my metal production! Thanks for the video bro
Thanks for watching Alexey!
This was great. Definitely going to be using tip 2 for sure on my bass
My transition from a pretty good amateur to a decent professional happened the second i fully understood the "mix as a whole" concept (my humbleness is clipping, isn't it...). Another great video, cheers man!
Hell yeah, love hearing that Chino!
the knowledge of the mix gods handed to us mere mortals ....im not worthy... thank you so much for bestowing us with this crucial knowledge
Thanks so much for watching!
@@FrightboxRecording I subd for sure. Just found you yesterday. Im new to the recording and mixing scene. But ive been playing for years. Its a whole new ball game. Thanks for sharing this knowledge. You rock! 💪🤘
This is the best Mixing Channel!
Ich schaue seit Jahren Videos zum Thema Mixing. Dieser Kanal ist wirklich mächtig! Gerade wenn man Metal mixt! Gerne hätte ich sowas vor 15 Jahren geschaut. Alle Videos sind klasse und helfen einem weiter. Das mit vorinstallierten Effekten alles gezeigt wird, macht es wirklich machbar und nachvollziehbar. Geiler Kanal!
Thanks so much for watching!
These tips and the way you presented them will help me immediately! Thanks!
Glad you found them helpful!
Great tips here! Your channel is honestly one of my favorites for metal/rock production.
Great mix there! Might be the best I've heard of your work so far.
Thanks my man!
Great video, brother!
You're the man dude!
limiter on the bass is a must for me, because some quicks parts played with a pick, can be very volumen variable
Nice one, great tips!
*hurriedly opens DAW to fix low end*
YESSS
thanks bobby, you rock!!!
Fix my low end.......hmmmmmm sexy! Didn't that get me down here in the first place? Maybe my hustle game wasn't slick enough! Lol, unrelated! I like metal! Keep rocking :)
Nice Tips mate. I also use the Trackspacer plugin for spacebattle between bass and kick.
Interesting...gotta check that plugin out!
Great vid! 🤟🤟 I hope this helps me! I often find the car stereo is great way to judge mixes!
Let me know how it works out!
Thanks Bobby, another great informative video! Really appreciate you taking the time to make these. It would be helpful if you would cover your thought process on how you approach Gain Staging!
Definitely one in the works!
Thank you
I like cutting off only from the sides more low end than the Mid or general stereo.....
Great video Bobby! Excellent tips
Glad you dug it !
Here's a tip for low end:
Ever wondered why your low end is inconsistent? Like, some low notes of the bass guitar just jump out, while others aren't enough?
It's because of the compressor. The bass guitar produces more highs than lows or lows than highs, depending on what the bass player is playing. The compressor doesn't care, it just sees the overall level of the whole spectrum and compresses by it, making your low end very dynamic. If you set your compressor detection filter for the bass, on where consistency matters (like, ~between 60-700 Hz), the lows will stay consistant, and only the highs will vary. This will not alter your tone like a multiband compressor would, as the relation between frequencies will stay the same.
It can be a lot of different things and that's definitely one of them. I've found that using a brick wall limiter solves the issue 99% of the time.
Yea I usually separate my bass tracks between low (0-250ish hz) and high (359ish-5-6k) and absolutely crush the low track with limiting and even still the higher notes disappear a little bit, it’s annoyingly as fuck
I'm gonna try this!
Awesome tips, could you maybe someday show how you would fix the extremes of low end? (like you said, either it gets too boomy or too thin); this video shows more if you had a thin mix but what if you have a booming low end, how would you attack it? Thanks!!
Thanks for these great tips !
My pleasure Damien!
Thumbs up just for that tasty ass bass guitar tone
I'm currently struggling with this at the moment so your tips come in handy !
Is there a way I could have your opinion on some of my current work ? Thanks for another Super Duper video !
Sure thing man, send it over!
@@FrightboxRecording If i may i would like to send mine.And if it is not a problem in what format and where to?
Oh, I thought I was the only one using a limiter on the bass :D
Btw, why do you like the 24 dB slope on your filters?
I prefer a steeper slope. I wan't as little happening behind the cutoff frequency as possible.
Big question, what if it is just the kick drum that sounds too boomy, how do i fix that?
Like too much resonance in the lowest end? is it too compressed? not compressed enough?
Love these techniques. Aren't we supposed to high pass everything below 40hz on the kick?
Yes!!! I'm doing it on the drums submix here.
@@FrightboxRecording Ah, so low cut at 40hz on both kick, and drum submix?
@@ckowalski1029 I'd do it on one or the other. I usually do it on the submix.
@@FrightboxRecording Cool, thanks!
Hey frightbox! loved this video!
Quick question: when we are approaching our master chain, should our end-goal tonal balance low end (100ish and lower) be intact before we even hit the SSL? Or should we hit the master bus with less bass and then add our low end back at the very end or toward the very end of the master chain? All concerning trying to avoid smushing up a limiter with a bunch of low end and ending up with a squashed song.
Or is this a job for multiband comp in the master chain, or maybe parallel mix comp?
@@jeffsnider9869 Hello Jeffrey! I always aim to get the tonal balance right within the mix itself. I'm not a fan of doing a whole lot on my maser bus chain. I never add low-end back in on my master buss chain. You can check out exactly how I handle the master bus chain in this video: ruclips.net/video/8TIIzwRdlqk/видео.html
@@FrightboxRecording thanks a ton!
200 or more is how much I take lows I take away when it comes to my lead guitars. Works so well. Absolutely right about tracks sounding dull until they are played with other tracks. I agree. I’ll have to keep those other two tips in mind for my future projects. Love your stuff Bobby.
Thanks again Mr. Cyfair!
Lmao dude wtf I was trying new things with low end today and struggling. Turns out I was high passing my kick way too much. I was high passing at around 50hz with 12-24db/octave and not leaving enough room for bass (unless the song is just fast steady double kick and it super low tuned I like to have the kick below the bass) but of course I tried just not high passing the kick and now that I’m done I check my phone and see this video lmao awesome as always. Also, does the distortion that L1 sometimes gives depending on how hard you crush the bass bother you? In your video it’s only a couple dB but with a horrible recording it’s sometimes way too dynamic and I have to crush it
I never crush tracks hard enough with the L-1 to produce distortion. I just use it as a "cap" on my bass.
I have a question, i downloaded your Quick EQ Guide and i noticed (in the video) that you did not cut everything below 30hz. Is really necessary to do that action?
Great question! In this case I high passed everything below 30HZ on my drum bus. This only affects my kick since everything else is high passed above that individually anyway.
I did it this way because my kick's channel strip didn't have a steep enough filter slope, so it made more sense to do it on the stock EQ that's on my drum buss.
This lets my kick dominate between 30-60hz and the bass sits above that.
Don´t you think MV2 is a better solution for problem #2 ?
I have it, but not much of a fan. I usually hear it pump too much.
Hey Beavis 😂
Name of the song please
Voidscape - "Drifting Purpose": voidscapenj.bandcamp.com/track/drifting-purpose
what kind of dynamics processing on kicks?
Just simple compression and EQ. I'm using the old school Metric Halo Channel strip in this video. Pretty much on par with most stock channel strips these days.
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