I started applying more high/low pass filters recently after seeing one of your videos and it really does wonders for clarity and makes mixes sound much more professional.
Your channel has been the most helpful for me on my mixing journey. You manage to make what seemed like an overwhelming and complicated process and break it down to a very simple level. Thank you for your content.
Dude, I just bought your Heavy Mix Fix course the other night. It's more than worth the $27 I paid. Definitely recommend it to others. I don't even do "heavy" music, per se, but I still found it both engrossing and useful.
Man I've been using the Waves Limiter on bass too, having a growling bass in the center is wonderful, and have a D.I to push the low end works very well for me. I usually use fab filter and you can hear the frequencies you're cutting, sometimes people understand there is a lot of mud there, but it can be hard for most people to understand the concept.
I already use a brickwall limiter on the low end of my bass, but why the heck I don't do the same on the amp track, is nothing that can be explained rationally. Thanks for sharing.
Really helpful vid Bobby, I used to struggle with low end a lot but high passing and getting rid of unwanted frequencies is the way to go imo! I sometimes use some sidechain compression if I want the boom of the kick to come through but it's not needed everytime.
Hmm. I've never used a limiter on the bass, but I'll give that a look. I have a bunch of old recordings I'd love to really touch up and get to sound good, particularly with the metal guitars. We recorded direct in with no amp sim or cabinet sims (cause we were young and poor), do you have any suggestions on getting these direct in recordings to sound better? Like a cabinet sim or technique to help it out?
Bobby. My guitars sound great in my mix but I'm using the same patch and EQ settings live and I keep hearing the word THIN coming from other musicians and bandmates. So even though the guitars are mix ready for recording what can I do to put the umph back into them for live so that they"move some air" as I'm told
These tips are solid! Thank you for putting out content on such a consistent basis. Regarding high pass filters, if im applying one in my amp modeler (line 6 helix) should I not be applying a second one on the eq plug-in in my daw?
Another great vid! You are the reason i high and low pass my tracks and massively helped! Hey Bobby! In that song are those live drums or were you using EZ Drummer! Thanks again.
So when i read the heavy mix formula, it suggests that I hi pass the kick, but here you recommend that you dont for it to exist in the low. When do tou think is the best situation to either allow the sub, or filter it for the kick?
You can hi-pass the kick or drum buss (I'm hi-passing the drum buss in this mix at 40HZ), but the end result is still the same...the kick is sitting below the bass because the bass is filtered higher up. High-passing the kick is meant to add extra headroom to the mix.
Awesome video. Helpful as always. Yes, I have been doing all three of these things due to watching your videos, LOL. One thing though, when the instruments are heavily downtuned, do you still think it's better to put the kick below the bass knowing that the bass fundamentals are going to disappear? Just curious. And thanks for the great content!
The only time I use an L1 on drums is on the drum buss and very subtly. In these cases I treat it more like clipping because it will destroy your snare if you're not careful. Only a 1-2dB of gain reduction.
@@FrightboxRecording yep, the snare was the worst. I put it on because the snare had these crazy high peaks and was clipping on output but any time I applied the limiter it just sapped the energy out. I ended up just turning down the master fader to avoid any clipping there and it sounded better. So you focus on the amount of compression when dialing it in? How much do you aim for on bass guitars?
I've never used the Tone Chain. Is that a plugin? If you're referring to the track without the L1, it sounds similar just way more all over the place and less controlled.
@@ckowalski1029 If it does, it won't hurt anything. I've been doing it for 20 years. Generally, stuff like that is blown out of proportion on the internet.
ur taking out too much mid range. the life in everything is in the midrange. u dont needa worry about getting low end in your mix. u need to make things pop with offensive mixing and the low end will sort itself out. you also dont needa put a low pass filter on anything. theres natural air that sits if u leave it alone, and u dont needa low pass ur vocals. the body sits around 200 hz but theres no reason to pass them. theres too much deductive eq in ur mix. so yeah ur getting low end u want but ur destoying the mix in the process.
As he said in the video, not every genre is the same. If you heard the bass, theres nothing wrong with the mid range at all. Or the kick. There are compressors and other elements added which enhance the mid range, and introduce high and low changes with the EQs he used. What youre teetering to works more with natural aimed mixes. But that isnt what this genre is for? As he says in other videos, he doesnt make the rules, people like what people like and this is his results. I checked out your page. My music may not be very good, but bobbies music is. Where is yours?
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I started applying more high/low pass filters recently after seeing one of your videos and it really does wonders for clarity and makes mixes sound much more professional.
Your channel has been the most helpful for me on my mixing journey. You manage to make what seemed like an overwhelming and complicated process and break it down to a very simple level. Thank you for your content.
Agree!!!
Dude, I just bought your Heavy Mix Fix course the other night. It's more than worth the $27 I paid. Definitely recommend it to others. I don't even do "heavy" music, per se, but I still found it both engrossing and useful.
I’m really a fan of your channel, i’m sending one on my mixes so can roast/crit it if that’s okay! Hehehe
Man I've been using the Waves Limiter on bass too, having a growling bass in the center is wonderful, and have a D.I to push the low end works very well for me. I usually use fab filter and you can hear the frequencies you're cutting, sometimes people understand there is a lot of mud there, but it can be hard for most people to understand the concept.
I already use a brickwall limiter on the low end of my bass, but why the heck I don't do the same on the amp track, is nothing that can be explained rationally. Thanks for sharing.
If you’ve got Reaper you could use the simple peak limiter as an alternative. Works quite well
another killer video. Killer insight. Cool track. L1 is gold as well. Cheers.
Thanks Bobby, useful tips.👍
I really enjoy your tutorials, you certainly know your stuff, personally for me writing drum parts is where I lack, do you have videos on this?
Thanks for sharing your techniques, man. An un-handled low-end will take the definition out of the mid & high-end; it makes everything sound weak.
Love the song!
What band is it? I would totally listen to them
Wow! I'm really excited about limiter on a bass. BTW what about multiband sidechain on kick and bass arround 100 (+/-) Hz?
I rarely use sidechain comp, I prefer to keep it simple.
Really helpful vid Bobby, I used to struggle with low end a lot but high passing and getting rid of unwanted frequencies is the way to go imo! I sometimes use some sidechain compression if I want the boom of the kick to come through but it's not needed everytime.
You’re incredible
Great video as always 💀🤘I’m in the process of recording our new album, can’t wait to start mixing! I’ve learned a lot from your channel, many thanks.
Hmm. I've never used a limiter on the bass, but I'll give that a look.
I have a bunch of old recordings I'd love to really touch up and get to sound good, particularly with the metal guitars. We recorded direct in with no amp sim or cabinet sims (cause we were young and poor), do you have any suggestions on getting these direct in recordings to sound better? Like a cabinet sim or technique to help it out?
Bobby. My guitars sound great in my mix but I'm using the same patch and EQ settings live and I keep hearing the word THIN coming from other musicians and bandmates. So even though the guitars are mix ready for recording what can I do to put the umph back into them for live so that they"move some air" as I'm told
These tips are solid! Thank you for putting out content on such a consistent basis. Regarding high pass filters, if im applying one in my amp modeler (line 6 helix) should I not be applying a second one on the eq plug-in in my daw?
I would, it can't hurt.
Another great vid! You are the reason i high and low pass my tracks and massively helped!
Hey Bobby! In that song are those live drums or were you using EZ Drummer!
Thanks again.
This song is all live drums performed by Cameron Fleury!
@Frightbox Recording Wow they sound amazing! 👏
So when i read the heavy mix formula, it suggests that I hi pass the kick, but here you recommend that you dont for it to exist in the low. When do tou think is the best situation to either allow the sub, or filter it for the kick?
You can hi-pass the kick or drum buss (I'm hi-passing the drum buss in this mix at 40HZ), but the end result is still the same...the kick is sitting below the bass because the bass is filtered higher up. High-passing the kick is meant to add extra headroom to the mix.
Awesome video. Helpful as always. Yes, I have been doing all three of these things due to watching your videos, LOL. One thing though, when the instruments are heavily downtuned, do you still think it's better to put the kick below the bass knowing that the bass fundamentals are going to disappear? Just curious. And thanks for the great content!
Yes, I always have the kick below the bass regardless of tuning.
@@FrightboxRecording I somehow figured you would. Thanks! I'll give it a shot!
Can you do a tutorial on how to sound like Terry date or Ross Robinson? Every mix I hear sounds soft and pillowy I don't hear any "crispness"
Thank you, Bobby. Would you recommend a brickwall limiter on EZBass tracks as well, or purely on live bass?
I use it on EZbass, just a little less heavily. More to just limit the peaks since the signal is already pretty consistent.
Awesome. What about hi passing the drum buss? Like between 32-40Hz?
Yes! That certainly clears things up for additional headroom.
Awesome 👍
Limiting the bass guitar really works wonders. Moreover the L1 itself has become THE sound for doing that its that good and distinct.
How do you dial in your limiter? I have the L1 but find it sucks the energy from a lot of instruments, especially snares.
The only time I use an L1 on drums is on the drum buss and very subtly. In these cases I treat it more like clipping because it will destroy your snare if you're not careful. Only a 1-2dB of gain reduction.
@@FrightboxRecording yep, the snare was the worst. I put it on because the snare had these crazy high peaks and was clipping on output but any time I applied the limiter it just sapped the energy out. I ended up just turning down the master fader to avoid any clipping there and it sounded better. So you focus on the amount of compression when dialing it in? How much do you aim for on bass guitars?
Saw you pulled up the L1 on the bass DI, but how does that compare to the bass guitar track with the tone chain please? Similar?
I've never used the Tone Chain. Is that a plugin? If you're referring to the track without the L1, it sounds similar just way more all over the place and less controlled.
Also, do you Limit the saturated bass? Or just the low bass? Or both in the bass submix together?
I do both!
we all like a tight low end ;)
Thanks for this! How steep is your HPF on the bass? Does that matter?
I like to use a super steep filter.
@@FrightboxRecording wouldn't a steep filter introduce some artifacts? Or is that just a myth?
@@ckowalski1029 If it does, it won't hurt anything. I've been doing it for 20 years. Generally, stuff like that is blown out of proportion on the internet.
@@FrightboxRecording lol totally agree. Appreciate it!
@@ckowalski1029 its true.
Only If youre using more than 24db/oct.
But not alot of free/stock plugin has more than 18db/oct
Do you limit the high and low bass tracks? Or only the low?
Both!
what band is that?? shits fire
Glad you dig it! It's a short instrumental I wrote with Cameron Fleury: ruclips.net/video/sxiycKZYVRs/видео.html
🤘🤘
ur taking out too much mid range. the life in everything is in the midrange. u dont needa worry about getting low end in your mix. u need to make things pop with offensive mixing and the low end will sort itself out. you also dont needa put a low pass filter on anything. theres natural air that sits if u leave it alone, and u dont needa low pass ur vocals. the body sits around 200 hz but theres no reason to pass them. theres too much deductive eq in ur mix. so yeah ur getting low end u want but ur destoying the mix in the process.
As he said in the video, not every genre is the same. If you heard the bass, theres nothing wrong with the mid range at all. Or the kick. There are compressors and other elements added which enhance the mid range, and introduce high and low changes with the EQs he used. What youre teetering to works more with natural aimed mixes. But that isnt what this genre is for? As he says in other videos, he doesnt make the rules, people like what people like and this is his results. I checked out your page. My music may not be very good, but bobbies music is. Where is yours?