Lol I just passed that tournament rewatching og dragonball😂😂 the giant guy basically makes krillin breathe his ass Crack. Krillins about to pass out and goku just yells at him. "You can do it krillin you don't even have a nose!"😂😂😂 then krillin remembers that there's nothing between his eyes and mouth and he wins the round😂
@ZeallustImmortal I mean, in terms of the plot that is that specific Budokai, sure, but I would say it's more of a gag scene overall. In-universe, there is no lasting significance behind Krillin's lack of a nose past that point.
Fun Fact: besides the final attack of episode 60 part 3 (not saying what it is for spoiler reasons). Akira Toriyama the CREATOR of the original DBZ said that if Cell didn’t dodge the Final Flash he would’ve died. The Final Flash is the Third strongest attack in DBZ before the Buu arc
@@DivineXDiamond he basically did, in the manga and dbza Vegeta is the only one to help Gohan and he hits Cell with the last amount of energy he has, wasn't a final flash but it was as much Ki as he could spare without dying
When Bulma said she has been in this since longer she's not kidding. She is literally in since the first scenes of the first episode of the original Dragon Ball and is the first person besides his grandfather that Goku meets.
Arguably, she's been a part of things even longer than Goku, since she's the one who built the Dragon Radar and first started looking for the Dragon Balls. Goku was technically following HER around for the first part of the story.
I felt no remorse for Vegeta when Cell beat him. He literally fucked around and found out. And I like how teamfourstar Cell far more savage. That wait for Goku line was cold
@@Black_ReaperKai true. But u want to know why Vegeta is the most at fault here? Because when Trunks stepped in to finish the job after Vegeta let Cell go, Vegeta got in Trunks way and tried to stop him.
It's mostly Vegeta's fault. Krillin did what he did to save someone's life at least, and Trunks couldn't have done anything more, I mean his form is useless anyway and he's the one who got Vegeta out of the game. Yes he failed to react to the solar flare but that's not like he didn't try his best (plus almost no one ever succeed against the solar flare, with a few exceptions like Trunks later on actually).
@@Arkayjiya Except his new form is useless only because Cell was perfect. If he used it and any other Ki based move he could've dealt with Semi-Perfect Cell but he didn't. But I agree it's still 90% Vegeta's fault.
Fun fact: the creators of both DBZ and Abridged have confirmed that Final Flash was THE most powerful single energy blast at that point in the story. And that if Cell had taken it head-on, regenerative or not, he wouldn’t have survived. The “Oh sh*t!” moment was him realizing he HAD to dodge.
I mean, given everything that happened between this fight and the end of the Cell Games, there's no reason to conclude that Final Flash would have otherwise worked.
@@kmgyening Plenty of reason, otherwise he wouldn’t have dodged in the first place nor would he have his panicked reaction, Vegeta had to make sure to do it at full power as well and goaded Cell into taking it head on
The same Cell took the force of both his Kamehameha and SSJ2 Gohan's 1st Kamehameha head-on, and didn't die. He took the force of Goku's Kamehameha head-on and didn't die. If both Goku and Gohan were stronger than the Vegeta in this fight, then it seems unlikely that this Cell would have been killed by this Final Flash.
@@kmgyening Those are easily explained, Final Flash at full power was stronger than Goku’s Kamehameha at full power, Cell took Goku’s kamehameha head on it only took out half of his body, literally no room to dodge but that wasn’t enough to put him down, comparing Final Flash at full power to the Kamehameha at Full Power, Final Flash had way more destructive potential compared to Goku’s Instant transmission Kamehameha. Only reason Cell survived the Final Flash because he didn’t take all of it head on, he literally dodged at the last second Gohan the whole time was toying with Cell, Gohan was way more powerful than him and didn’t use all of his power in his Kamehameha, he simply used enough to push Cell’s back, Cell took that head on but had less to regenerate.
@sonomni I think the Cell dodging thing is doing a lot of work for your argument. The problem with what you're saying is that there's no real way to compare the actual power level or destructive power of the that Final Flash with either Kamehameha. The fact that Cell dodged the Final Flash doesn't actually tell you that he wouldn't have survived a full hit, when he survived ki blasts shot from beings who were apparently much stronger than this Vegeta. On top of that, he regenerated from a small clump of cells after blowing himself up. Considering how sort of hax (and actually plothole-y) his regen ability is, there's no way to know whether the Final Flash would have destroyed all of his Cells unless we witnessed it.
I was frantically hitting the back buttonn because I thought missed an episode. Perhaps they plan to release the movies later, its not like they really affect the main story
So fun fact, there's obviously the steven universe reference in the form of the muffin parody song, but there's another one when krillin is contemplating blowing up android 18. The music in the background is the mirror gem theme, from when we first met lapis. Which is funny since android 17 and 18's real names are lapis and lazuli.
Vegeta's music for the Final Flash is in fact the Faulkner music used for Vegeta going Super Saiyan, equally awesome in both scenes. But now we have Perfect Cell, equal parts charismatic, quippy and ready to throw your words back at you
That scene is part of the reason why I don't understand why some fans claim the Kienzan could cut down any foe. Granted this scene is anime filler, but even without the filler, why would that logic carry over to this one ki attack and not most other ki attacks over the course of the franchise? It doesn't really make sense.
@@kmgyeningThe disk breaking follows the same logic where people can no-sell energy volleys and big blasts. Their aura or physique is stronger than the attack used against them.
@@silverblade357 If I understand what you're saying correctly, then it shouldn't be true when fans claim that the Kienzan could certainly cut down any foe.
Krillin manages to cut Frieza’s tail clean off when he was in his second form, which was VASTLY more powerful than Nappa, who despite still being hurt by it, only got a large cut and that’s it. The Kienzan definitely has some inconsistencies.
18:35 I'm sure that's how that appears on the surface level, and sure with hindsight it is much easier to make that conclusion, but even as far back as the beginning of Z Akira Toriyama (the writer of the Dragon Ball manga) was trying to experiment with making Gohan the main character, starting off as the dual lead with Goku with the two characters basically being polar opposites of each other. Basically Goku is a proactive character who starts as a go-getter, adventurous, stupidly brave & confident, while Gohan is a reactive character who starts as being timid, sheltered, and stupidly scared & frightened of everything. You can eventually kind of tell when Goku "stops" being the main character when we as the audience never hear his inner dialog or thoughts anymore so we don't know what he is thinking anymore. At least, when even get to see him since he is hardly ever around. But anyway, in the next arc that this Abridged series doesn't cover Toriyama tried to have Gohan work as the main character of his series, but he was having trouble getting him to work in his narrative. In his words, he said that Gohan, "was not fit to be the/a main character," but many people don't think that is true at all. Rather there is a belief that Toriyama was mainly having difficulty writing his story with a reactive protagonist rather than a proactive protagonist, which is totally fine each type has their pros and cons with writing and each writer is better or worse at writing each kind. But because of that and Toriyama's writing style, which was basically, "writing by the seat of his pants," basically near almost an improv kind of style, that is very likely why things turned out the way they did in the next arc. But of course I don't think there is much hard proof of that rn, it is basically a lot of collective inference by the community. Anyway, one other thing to just mention about the Abridged series instead of the main series, Team Four Star said in their commentary of these episodes that in their series it is cannon that the events of Cell going perfect and Gohan going super saiyan happened at the exact same time. They just ran into writing problems on how to portray that idea without undercutting each of the characters' moments from each other, so that idea being explicitly shown was dropped. But yeah, that's a fun BTS idea to think about!
This episode was my favorite Krillin moment. The amount of emotion in his lines trying to convince himself to push the button, and then the soft "...Oh." It hits deep for me.
23:30 - Vegeta's theme right here is properly epic, and I think is only used for this scene. I'd compare it with the Atma Weapon theme from Final Fantasy 6.
You know, Trunks wasn't wrong. With how often Krillin gets his ass kicked and bounces back thanks to the Senzu Beans...if he was a Saiyan, he'd probably be stronger than Broly at this point! 😂😂😂
Fun fact in the og dragon ball Krillin wins a fight against a guy that would use his grossness in his favor because he remembers he doesn't have a nose and therefore can't smell
From what I understand, Gohan was supposed to become stronger than Goku (and does at first) and replace him, but the fans loved Goku so much, Toriyama reversed course and Gohan went to the sidelines and Goku far surpassed him instead.
It wasn’t the fans- Gohan actually surpassed Goku in popularity at the time. It was Toriyama’s decision. He felt that Gohan wasn’t quite suited for Goku’s role, probably due to his relative distaste for fighting.
The crazy thing is, Krillin's lack of nose isn't even a stylistic choice, he actually doesn't have one. In Dragon Ball he squared off once with a guy in a tournament whose gimmick was horrific body odor. Krillin won specifically because he couldn't smell him!
Wish H-Man was there to get the "Don't lose your head--they were my family too" line 😂 Fun reactions, glad you guys got the "See You Turn into a Super Saiyan" nod too, MasakoX kills it singing. (Also, not sure if you caught it, but his singing "I like food 'cause it is yummy; I will put this in my tummy" is sung to the tune of Dragon Soul, DB Kai's first opening song--MasakoX did a full TV-size cover on his RUclips for it, haha.)
The thing about Cell’s physiology; he has both Namekian and Saiyan biology; every time he gets injured and regenerates, he grows that much more powerful.
That wasn't really confirmed by this arc. He was only shown to get one Zenkai, and that was at the very end of the fight. Even the Saiyan characters were not shown or stated to obtain Zenkais throughout this entire arc.
in the OG series the plan was for Gohan to indeed become the main character and take over from Goku after this saga but sadly it was not that well received so Goku returned as MC and remained so in both GT and Super
12:05 There it is ladies and gentlemen, the last solar flare image before cell reaches his perfect form. And wow TFS was looking up on Rule 34 stuff lol. Also, the final flash scene is Iconic af!
That's the coldest fucking line in the entirety of all Dragon Ball series. "Next time why don't you know your place like the rest of them.....and wait for Goku."
Iittle fun fact, goku's song in the beginning is like the song Steven universe sang when he want to see a giant woman. "All I wanna do, is see you turn into, a giant woman, a giant woman". What a nice call back...
I think it's great that you had those two episodes together because the DBZA writers said they couldn't show it well enough but Cell going perfect and something that happened in episode 52 (not saying what yet cause reasons) happened at the same time.
one thing i always notice in these reaction videos is that in ep.51 goku specifically says "tomorrow, i'mma get you super saiyan." and the next episode (the next day) he pulls this dodge training; AND it turns out the kamehameha was at half power. no one ever seems to notice or mention if they did, that goku very clearly calculated that would shock gohan into super saiyan. even though he says he though gohan would dodge, i doubt he actually did.
"It's too bad you don't have Saiyan biology; at this point you'd probably be unstoppable." Sums up Kuririn's experience post-Tambourine perfectly 🤣 always present when the world is about to end, but never strong enough to actually do anything about it.
I love that they watched these two together, especially knowing that TFS originally wanted to have Cell go perfect at the same time that Gohan went Super Saiyan. I'm also glad that some of their predictions are so...shall we say, perfect.
@@robertmauck4975 Indeed. But that's why I'm glad they watched these two episodes in the same video; that's the next best way to get the same effect overall!
one thing i loved about Vegeta using the Final Flash attack was that, in the original series, Cell never taunted Vegeta about attacking him "as hard as he could". Instead, it was Vegeta who taunted Cell saying that he couldn't possibly withstand his attack, and that much like a coward, he would have to dodge. Cell responded with "ok, see what you can do", and proceded to tank his attack. It is also worth mentioning that every time Vegeta has used the Final Flash move, he has taunted his opponent in such a way, because as we can see, it's not a fast technique, and it takes a while both to charge and to hit. So, he needs to make his opponent wait for him, playing with his pride (which is ironic, when you take who is using this technique)
Actually he did dodge at the last moment. Toriyama has stated that this attack was the strongest blast in the saga, if Cell had taken it head on he would have died.
@@iainmcdonalds4018I wouldn't put too much stock in that claim, considering the fact that Toriyama isn't a shining example of consistency regarding this franchise, as well as everything that happens in-universe throughout the rest of this arc.
I'm so glad they included some of faulconer's vegeta music for the final flash. That vegeta suite is iconic and hands down puts the music from the other versions to shame
yeah, Blueberry is clearly the superior muffin. And, fun fact, in the commentary Takahata101 mentioned that the main inspiration/touchstone for his Perfect Cell voice is Kelsey Grammer as Sideshow Bob
Apparently according to TFS, the Finsl Flash actually would have killed Cell if it him him head-on, as Crll stepped out of the way. While Vegeta is much weaker, he literally put EVERYTHING HE HAD into that blast
It's so funny that Krillin fell in love with 18 despite only having one interaction with her. An interaction in which 18 declared that she's going to murder his best friend!
The original plan was for Gohan to take over as the main character, but then Akira Toriyama remembered he's not good at writing and Gohan actually has a character beyond punching things, so he basically phased Gohan out of the story instead.
Also, I've seen multiple examples of fans claiming that Future Trunks just doesn't mess around and is always about that business, yet they seem to ignore this instance. If anything, this example shows that Future Trunks is likely to mess up like any of the other characters, as long as he has an incentive to.
Billy, if you would be so kind to upvote this so they see. Here's a little bit of trivia for when you guys get to the DBZA Broly Movie. TeamFourStar did not make any changes to Broly's backstory for the abridged movie. What they show in the abridged movie is his actual backstory.
I'm assuming you meant that Krillin at this time could beat Frieza? (Because it's obvious that Cell can) I don't really think that Krillin grow so much stronger in 3 years. He's not a saiyan or even a namek.
@@sheogorath6834 I don't think killin would ragdoll him tho, I meant its crazy how cell could one shot freiza and yet when it happens to krilin that makes him "useless" I know he fucked up with the remote tho but krillin gets a lot of hate regardless
Little fun fact: In the German dub of DBZ, Cell really said Oh Sh*t before gotten hit with the Final Flash 😂
perfection 👌
he says "holy shit" in japanese too
Do you mean he actually said “scheiße” or “scheisse”?
@@acgearsandarms1343 in german he literally says "oh shit", like, in english and all
@@darker8484 Oh, in English for a German dub. That’s pretty novel.
Fun fact: Krillin not having a nose is literally a plot point in the original series.
Lol I just passed that tournament rewatching og dragonball😂😂 the giant guy basically makes krillin breathe his ass Crack. Krillins about to pass out and goku just yells at him. "You can do it krillin you don't even have a nose!"😂😂😂 then krillin remembers that there's nothing between his eyes and mouth and he wins the round😂
I mean it's more of a gag (and I think one that's 4th-wall breaking much like that early panel gag), but yea.
@@kmgyeningEven if its a gag, it still is a major plot point for the tournament. A gag can also be a plot point.
@ZeallustImmortal I mean, in terms of the plot that is that specific Budokai, sure, but I would say it's more of a gag scene overall. In-universe, there is no lasting significance behind Krillin's lack of a nose past that point.
@kmgyening You can just say Tournament, weeb.
“And wait for Goku.” Literally shattered his pride with those words.
And it took 7 years to even get enough of it back to look cool again.
You know that line hurt him more than the broken spine.
@@Xone9 man took years to recover.
that one hurt him so bad everyone else felt it too
"Ah, my rage has blinded me!" One of my favorite Vegita lines.
Fun Fact: besides the final attack of episode 60 part 3 (not saying what it is for spoiler reasons). Akira Toriyama the CREATOR of the original DBZ said that if Cell didn’t dodge the Final Flash he would’ve died. The Final Flash is the Third strongest attack in DBZ before the Buu arc
Was gokus instant kamahameha thr 2nd?
@@TheGintama86 spoiler shield
Father-Son Kamehameha 1
Perfect Cell Solar Kamehameha 2
@@jasonmarholz2427 oh right forgot cell was fired one
@@jasonmarholz2427imagine if during that clash vegeta launched a final flash at cell👀
@@DivineXDiamond he basically did, in the manga and dbza Vegeta is the only one to help Gohan and he hits Cell with the last amount of energy he has, wasn't a final flash but it was as much Ki as he could spare without dying
God damn. 18's scream never fails to give me chills when it happens. Props to her VA
The VA is Amber Lee Connors. She's done A LOT of professional voice work in anime & video games.
When Bulma said she has been in this since longer she's not kidding. She is literally in since the first scenes of the first episode of the original Dragon Ball and is the first person besides his grandfather that Goku meets.
Arguably, she's been a part of things even longer than Goku, since she's the one who built the Dragon Radar and first started looking for the Dragon Balls. Goku was technically following HER around for the first part of the story.
@@karelfinn2343 the focus always has been Goku, but since the beginning Bulma has been the one who moves the story.
I felt no remorse for Vegeta when Cell beat him. He literally fucked around and found out. And I like how teamfourstar Cell far more savage. That wait for Goku line was cold
True! I felt no sympathy for Vegeta. He deserved it.
Tho Vegeta doesn't take the full blame Trunks is at fault also Krillin by a small amount
@@Black_ReaperKai true. But u want to know why Vegeta is the most at fault here? Because when Trunks stepped in to finish the job after Vegeta let Cell go, Vegeta got in Trunks way and tried to stop him.
It's mostly Vegeta's fault. Krillin did what he did to save someone's life at least, and Trunks couldn't have done anything more, I mean his form is useless anyway and he's the one who got Vegeta out of the game. Yes he failed to react to the solar flare but that's not like he didn't try his best (plus almost no one ever succeed against the solar flare, with a few exceptions like Trunks later on actually).
@@Arkayjiya Except his new form is useless only because Cell was perfect. If he used it and any other Ki based move he could've dealt with Semi-Perfect Cell but he didn't. But I agree it's still 90% Vegeta's fault.
The "Ohhh, ominous!" is a line I use all of the time, lol.
Cell dodges at the very last second because he realized that the Final Flash would have ended him.
The giant woman parody is something I see almost no one know the reference, I’m so glad they did! 😂
SU Is kinda mediocre so I dont baile people for not care about the music.
@@gonzalocachi4329If u say so lmao
@@gonzalocachi4329 cope
Most adults that react to dbza have barely watched the og db much less a 2010s cartoon lol
@@tastedivinefury2198 Fr. SU is a lot of things, but the music is nothing to scoff at
Fun fact: the creators of both DBZ and Abridged have confirmed that Final Flash was THE most powerful single energy blast at that point in the story. And that if Cell had taken it head-on, regenerative or not, he wouldn’t have survived. The “Oh sh*t!” moment was him realizing he HAD to dodge.
I mean, given everything that happened between this fight and the end of the Cell Games, there's no reason to conclude that Final Flash would have otherwise worked.
@@kmgyening Plenty of reason, otherwise he wouldn’t have dodged in the first place nor would he have his panicked reaction, Vegeta had to make sure to do it at full power as well and goaded Cell into taking it head on
The same Cell took the force of both his Kamehameha and SSJ2 Gohan's 1st Kamehameha head-on, and didn't die. He took the force of Goku's Kamehameha head-on and didn't die. If both Goku and Gohan were stronger than the Vegeta in this fight, then it seems unlikely that this Cell would have been killed by this Final Flash.
@@kmgyening Those are easily explained, Final Flash at full power was stronger than Goku’s Kamehameha at full power, Cell took Goku’s kamehameha head on it only took out half of his body, literally no room to dodge but that wasn’t enough to put him down, comparing Final Flash at full power to the Kamehameha at Full Power, Final Flash had way more destructive potential compared to Goku’s Instant transmission Kamehameha. Only reason Cell survived the Final Flash because he didn’t take all of it head on, he literally dodged at the last second
Gohan the whole time was toying with Cell, Gohan was way more powerful than him and didn’t use all of his power in his Kamehameha, he simply used enough to push Cell’s back, Cell took that head on but had less to regenerate.
@sonomni I think the Cell dodging thing is doing a lot of work for your argument. The problem with what you're saying is that there's no real way to compare the actual power level or destructive power of the that Final Flash with either Kamehameha. The fact that Cell dodged the Final Flash doesn't actually tell you that he wouldn't have survived a full hit, when he survived ki blasts shot from beings who were apparently much stronger than this Vegeta. On top of that, he regenerated from a small clump of cells after blowing himself up. Considering how sort of hax (and actually plothole-y) his regen ability is, there's no way to know whether the Final Flash would have destroyed all of his Cells unless we witnessed it.
Yeah, I think they did forget to upload the Android 13 movie before this. Also, Blueberry muffin is my favourite.
I thought I missed it.
I was frantically hitting the back buttonn because I thought missed an episode. Perhaps they plan to release the movies later, its not like they really affect the main story
So fun fact, there's obviously the steven universe reference in the form of the muffin parody song, but there's another one when krillin is contemplating blowing up android 18. The music in the background is the mirror gem theme, from when we first met lapis. Which is funny since android 17 and 18's real names are lapis and lazuli.
omg I never noticed that, Damn that's smart
I’m sad the Buu Bits didn’t confirm if she went by 18 or Lazuli after the time skip.
@@seamusburke639Well, the “Three’s a Crowd” episode of Dragon ShortZ has Krillin calling her Lazuli(sometimes just Laz)so there’s that at least.
I like to imagine most people call her 18 but Krillin and 17 use her name.
Vegeta's music for the Final Flash is in fact the Faulkner music used for Vegeta going Super Saiyan, equally awesome in both scenes.
But now we have Perfect Cell, equal parts charismatic, quippy and ready to throw your words back at you
Gohan would literally go Super Saiyan rather than dodge.
Props to trunks voice actor, that "what the hell is wrong with you" you could hear the frustration behind it😂
Also Vegeta's "unyielding rage" line.
Like seriously what the actual fuck was he thinking.
Every time I rewatch this it pisses me off.
Poor Krillin - he finally hit someone with his Kienzan, and it couldn't even do anything.
That scene is part of the reason why I don't understand why some fans claim the Kienzan could cut down any foe. Granted this scene is anime filler, but even without the filler, why would that logic carry over to this one ki attack and not most other ki attacks over the course of the franchise? It doesn't really make sense.
It still would’ve been useless on Cell either way, he could’ve easily regenerated his head back like it’s nothing if it actually cut.
@@kmgyeningThe disk breaking follows the same logic where people can no-sell energy volleys and big blasts. Their aura or physique is stronger than the attack used against them.
@@silverblade357 If I understand what you're saying correctly, then it shouldn't be true when fans claim that the Kienzan could certainly cut down any foe.
Krillin manages to cut Frieza’s tail clean off when he was in his second form, which was VASTLY more powerful than Nappa, who despite still being hurt by it, only got a large cut and that’s it. The Kienzan definitely has some inconsistencies.
That "All you'll be feeling....is OBLIVION!" line is actually exactly what Vegeta says in the real anime.
I love that the humor in Tien is by playing him as super serious in this parody
17:42 “Is he like the youngest to go Super Saiyan now”
Goten: “Hi”
18:35 I'm sure that's how that appears on the surface level, and sure with hindsight it is much easier to make that conclusion, but even as far back as the beginning of Z Akira Toriyama (the writer of the Dragon Ball manga) was trying to experiment with making Gohan the main character, starting off as the dual lead with Goku with the two characters basically being polar opposites of each other. Basically Goku is a proactive character who starts as a go-getter, adventurous, stupidly brave & confident, while Gohan is a reactive character who starts as being timid, sheltered, and stupidly scared & frightened of everything. You can eventually kind of tell when Goku "stops" being the main character when we as the audience never hear his inner dialog or thoughts anymore so we don't know what he is thinking anymore. At least, when even get to see him since he is hardly ever around.
But anyway, in the next arc that this Abridged series doesn't cover Toriyama tried to have Gohan work as the main character of his series, but he was having trouble getting him to work in his narrative. In his words, he said that Gohan, "was not fit to be the/a main character," but many people don't think that is true at all. Rather there is a belief that Toriyama was mainly having difficulty writing his story with a reactive protagonist rather than a proactive protagonist, which is totally fine each type has their pros and cons with writing and each writer is better or worse at writing each kind. But because of that and Toriyama's writing style, which was basically, "writing by the seat of his pants," basically near almost an improv kind of style, that is very likely why things turned out the way they did in the next arc. But of course I don't think there is much hard proof of that rn, it is basically a lot of collective inference by the community.
Anyway, one other thing to just mention about the Abridged series instead of the main series, Team Four Star said in their commentary of these episodes that in their series it is cannon that the events of Cell going perfect and Gohan going super saiyan happened at the exact same time. They just ran into writing problems on how to portray that idea without undercutting each of the characters' moments from each other, so that idea being explicitly shown was dropped. But yeah, that's a fun BTS idea to think about!
This episode was my favorite Krillin moment. The amount of emotion in his lines trying to convince himself to push the button, and then the soft "...Oh." It hits deep for me.
I've been waiting for their reaction to final flash this entire time. Was worth it
23:30 - Vegeta's theme right here is properly epic, and I think is only used for this scene. I'd compare it with the Atma Weapon theme from Final Fantasy 6.
Piccolo things that getting layed is like getting put into an egg and layed, namekians are born from eggs.
I was confused for a moment since you mentioned Super Android 13 but you didn't upload it.
Also, I can't wait for you guys to see ep 53.
I love the parallel the Gohan became a Super Sayan at the same time Cell became perfect.
"In mere moments all you'll be feeling is oblivion" is up there with those lines in abridged that would have fit perfectly into the main series.
So we gonna talk about the solar flare at 11:41? 😳
You know, Trunks wasn't wrong. With how often Krillin gets his ass kicked and bounces back thanks to the Senzu Beans...if he was a Saiyan, he'd probably be stronger than Broly at this point! 😂😂😂
9:58 bro was humming his own theme😂😂
I'm always impressed by Lani in this episode for obvious reasons, his Vegeta is amazing, snd it ASTOUNDS me that he rarely hurts his throat doing it.
Ooh, excited to see your reaction to Super Android 13! I got to see its premiere live at a con ^^
Fun Fact: In the creator commentary (for DBZA) it is stated that Cell reaching his perfect form and Gohon going Super sayin happenes at the same time.
17:41 yes and no, the youngest Super Saiyan isn't born yet but for now, it's Gohan
Fun fact in the og dragon ball Krillin wins a fight against a guy that would use his grossness in his favor because he remembers he doesn't have a nose and therefore can't smell
Hope H-man is doing ok!
Yea, what happened to him?
Yea it’s weird why are they still showing him on the thumbnail when he’s gone
@@bobbyriker9353he's there in spirit 😅 seriously tho, hope he's good
Yeah do anyone know what's happened with him?
@@bobbyriker9353 no cuz seriously I'm so confused about that 😭
From what I understand, Gohan was supposed to become stronger than Goku (and does at first) and replace him, but the fans loved Goku so much, Toriyama reversed course and Gohan went to the sidelines and Goku far surpassed him instead.
It wasn’t the fans- Gohan actually surpassed Goku in popularity at the time. It was Toriyama’s decision. He felt that Gohan wasn’t quite suited for Goku’s role, probably due to his relative distaste for fighting.
Well Gohan might be stronger now...
"Is Gohan about to step up?" Oh boy he doesn't knoooow
The crazy thing is, Krillin's lack of nose isn't even a stylistic choice, he actually doesn't have one. In Dragon Ball he squared off once with a guy in a tournament whose gimmick was horrific body odor. Krillin won specifically because he couldn't smell him!
...Did you guys mean to upload this and not Super Android 13? ...Well, at least there's no real problem with watching this first.
This is the point Trunks is just done with everyone's shit
“I’m sure as the series progresses Gohan eventually gets stronger than Goku, right?”
Oh you’d sure think so.
Yea, he does until he doesn't.
Also, Hellsing Ultimate Abridged is a worthy follow up.
Wish H-Man was there to get the "Don't lose your head--they were my family too" line 😂 Fun reactions, glad you guys got the "See You Turn into a Super Saiyan" nod too, MasakoX kills it singing. (Also, not sure if you caught it, but his singing "I like food 'cause it is yummy; I will put this in my tummy" is sung to the tune of Dragon Soul, DB Kai's first opening song--MasakoX did a full TV-size cover on his RUclips for it, haha.)
TFS’s sense of pacing is genuinely astonishing
The thing about Cell’s physiology; he has both Namekian and Saiyan biology; every time he gets injured and regenerates, he grows that much more powerful.
Well... "technically" it has to be something that will kill him and if it damages him he becomes stronger. There's like 3 times that it happens.
That wasn't really confirmed by this arc. He was only shown to get one Zenkai, and that was at the very end of the fight. Even the Saiyan characters were not shown or stated to obtain Zenkais throughout this entire arc.
in the OG series the plan was for Gohan to indeed become the main character and take over from Goku after this saga but sadly it was not that well received so Goku returned as MC and remained so in both GT and Super
It was well received, Toriyama was the one who reversed course
You have reached it. DBZA PEAK!
12:05 There it is ladies and gentlemen, the last solar flare image before cell reaches his perfect form. And wow TFS was looking up on Rule 34 stuff lol. Also, the final flash scene is Iconic af!
11:16 "Vegeta's Vegeta" oh, and he's NOT gonna stop "Vegeting" :P
17:13 imagine if they destroyed the entrance!
Me looking at salad saiyans trapped in time chamber senario: visible concern
That's the coldest fucking line in the entirety of all Dragon Ball series.
"Next time why don't you know your place like the rest of them.....and wait for Goku."
My favorite muffins are either blueberry or lemon poppy seed, I wonder if there is a blueberry poppy seed.
Fun fact about Krillin canonicaly he doesn't even breath through his mouth but through the pores of his skin.
19:00 someone said it once that Goku in Z wasn’t the main character he is the Hero he is the last Hope
Z most of it was Gohan and vegeta focused
Iittle fun fact, goku's song in the beginning is like the song Steven universe sang when he want to see a giant woman. "All I wanna do, is see you turn into, a giant woman, a giant woman". What a nice call back...
I think it's great that you had those two episodes together because the DBZA writers said they couldn't show it well enough but Cell going perfect and something that happened in episode 52 (not saying what yet cause reasons) happened at the same time.
Lemon poppyseed best muffin
"I can't sense power levels but I can feel THAT." Yea they're fxcked😭
Tien saying "cyber sex" is the funniest thing Ive heard
I love that they didn’t even comment on Cell yelling “OH SHIT” cause of how massive the Final Flash was lol
Pssst. Y'all's playlist is missing Android 13.
Yeah, Cell saga was when the devs patched Destructo disc. That shit never hits the same after this saga, got a hard nerf
one thing i always notice in these reaction videos is that in ep.51 goku specifically says "tomorrow, i'mma get you super saiyan." and the next episode (the next day) he pulls this dodge training; AND it turns out the kamehameha was at half power. no one ever seems to notice or mention if they did, that goku very clearly calculated that would shock gohan into super saiyan. even though he says he though gohan would dodge, i doubt he actually did.
Is the video just stuck on 144p? I can't seem to change the quality of the video...
Same
Tune of dragon ball z Kai theme 😊 26:26
I've been singing the p-e-r-f-e-c-t song in the shower ever since this episode came out. It's so fucking ominous.
"It's too bad you don't have Saiyan biology; at this point you'd probably be unstoppable." Sums up Kuririn's experience post-Tambourine perfectly 🤣 always present when the world is about to end, but never strong enough to actually do anything about it.
The final flash is easily one of the best moments of the series.
I love that they watched these two together, especially knowing that TFS originally wanted to have Cell go perfect at the same time that Gohan went Super Saiyan.
I'm also glad that some of their predictions are so...shall we say, perfect.
To be fair, TFS did say in their canon they did happen simultaneously. They just couldn't fit them both in one episode and do then both justice
@@robertmauck4975 Indeed. But that's why I'm glad they watched these two episodes in the same video; that's the next best way to get the same effect overall!
(At 24:00) I *still* couldn't stop laughing after THIS!
Blueberry is my favorite muffin with lemon poppy seed being a close second.
one thing i loved about Vegeta using the Final Flash attack was that, in the original series, Cell never taunted Vegeta about attacking him "as hard as he could". Instead, it was Vegeta who taunted Cell saying that he couldn't possibly withstand his attack, and that much like a coward, he would have to dodge. Cell responded with "ok, see what you can do", and proceded to tank his attack.
It is also worth mentioning that every time Vegeta has used the Final Flash move, he has taunted his opponent in such a way, because as we can see, it's not a fast technique, and it takes a while both to charge and to hit. So, he needs to make his opponent wait for him, playing with his pride (which is ironic, when you take who is using this technique)
Actually he did dodge at the last moment. Toriyama has stated that this attack was the strongest blast in the saga, if Cell had taken it head on he would have died.
@@iainmcdonalds4018I wouldn't put too much stock in that claim, considering the fact that Toriyama isn't a shining example of consistency regarding this franchise, as well as everything that happens in-universe throughout the rest of this arc.
"oh thats definitely from a hentai" the laugh i got from that. Well done sirs. That earned my Sub to the channel 😂
The music during Vegeta's final flash, you don't get that awesomeness during Kai boys. Just.....saiyan.
Unless there's an option to use original dub soundtrack on the dvd lol
I'm so glad they included some of faulconer's vegeta music for the final flash. That vegeta suite is iconic and hands down puts the music from the other versions to shame
DBZA is how I found out about Steven Universe
I am gonna watch it now but i already know that it's gonna be awesome!!❤keep it up!!🎉
yeah, Blueberry is clearly the superior muffin. And, fun fact, in the commentary Takahata101 mentioned that the main inspiration/touchstone for his Perfect Cell voice is Kelsey Grammer as Sideshow Bob
Apparently according to TFS, the Finsl Flash actually would have killed Cell if it him him head-on, as Crll stepped out of the way. While Vegeta is much weaker, he literally put EVERYTHING HE HAD into that blast
Funny how the youngest to go super sayain is now literally a fetus
23:38 that line goes SO HARD.
The lines & the songs are just so … Perfect 👍
It's so funny that Krillin fell in love with 18 despite only having one interaction with her. An interaction in which 18 declared that she's going to murder his best friend!
Krillin: We're friends now!
16: But I want to kill Goku!
Krillin: Most of my friends did!
Fair enough
The intro song is super fun 😂. (Props to muffin for returning)
17:54 I mean, sort of...he does until marketing dictates otherwise. And Toriyama's feelings I guess.
15:10 Legacy of Goku doesn't hold up, but the sequels Legacy of Goku 2 and Buu's Fury are excellent
Legacy Goku of II was amazing, the first not so much
The original plan was for Gohan to take over as the main character, but then Akira Toriyama remembered he's not good at writing and Gohan actually has a character beyond punching things, so he basically phased Gohan out of the story instead.
You guys talked about Super Android 13!, but I think you forgot to upload it.
Also, I've seen multiple examples of fans claiming that Future Trunks just doesn't mess around and is always about that business, yet they seem to ignore this instance. If anything, this example shows that Future Trunks is likely to mess up like any of the other characters, as long as he has an incentive to.
P is for Priceless, the look upon your faces🤣
Originally Gohan was going to be the main character after the cell/buu saga but it apparently did not focus test well so they stuck with Goku
Superandroid 13 is over? Did you guys skip an upload or was that intentional?
Finally at perfection
Billy, if you would be so kind to upvote this so they see.
Here's a little bit of trivia for when you guys get to the DBZA Broly Movie. TeamFourStar did not make any changes to Broly's backstory for the abridged movie. What they show in the abridged movie is his actual backstory.
Funny thing is at this point in the story cell could swat frieza away like that, alot of people that shit on krillin forgets that
I'm assuming you meant that Krillin at this time could beat Frieza? (Because it's obvious that Cell can)
I don't really think that Krillin grow so much stronger in 3 years. He's not a saiyan or even a namek.
@@sheogorath6834 I don't think killin would ragdoll him tho, I meant its crazy how cell could one shot freiza and yet when it happens to krilin that makes him "useless" I know he fucked up with the remote tho but krillin gets a lot of hate regardless
@@gastoncampana9951 Ah, i see. I agree, it's not Krillin fault if he's "weak". He's only human after all.
9:55 Of course he doesn’t. That was actually a plot point in Dragon Ball