@@WolfMates I've just recently had a test ride on the Benelli Trk 502. Below 4,000 the engine was a little buzzy. Above 7,000 the engine became progressively more harsh in vibration to the point where you wouldn't want to sustain speeds upwards of 130 kph or 80 mph. The sweet spot seems to lie from 4,000 up to the torque peak of 6,000. Your revised gearing would allow the engine to sit where it is smoothest & most comfortable. This engine seems to be tuned for mid range torque, not peak power. It is obviously restricted at the top, & I believe the excessive vibration above 7,000 comes from an artificially lean air/fuel mixture to restrict peak power for the A2 licence regs. It has a 360° crankshaft, both pistons rising & falling together, & has a balance shaft to even things out. So it shouldn't vibrate at high rpm from a mechanical perspective. This makes me think that the vibration comes from lean combustion.
@@hiyadroogs excelent explanation :) Yes the engine loves to be from 4 to 6k rpm :) I though 360º engines were vibration prone at high rpm even with a balance shaft :) Lately ive been feeling alot more vibrations at 4k to 4.5k I found out some worn o-rings on the exhaust, lets hope its just that ;) Cheers mate!
Someone in another video said this: "I would to add a note of caution here. Before you do this, check which version of this bike you have. A TRK 502X has a 14/ 44 front / rear sprocket combination. A TRK 502 (NON X) has a 14 / 42 front / rear sprocket combination. You will REALLY struggle to get under way from a dead stop with a 15 / 42 combination on the TRK 502 Non X version of this bike as it is simply too tall for the engine. The engine doesn't have enough torque to pull the bike away from a stop line on a hill for example. Plus the 15 tooth upgrade is only ok on the X version, "IF" you don't load your bike up with a fully loaded set of panniers, top box and a pillion. I have a TRK 502 NON X version with a lot of luggage to carry. I'm having to fit a 14 / 44 set up as the original 14/ 42 sprocket set up made the bike useless if not almost dangerously slow on acceleration to ride on anything that wasn't a "Motorway." So the 15 tooth sprocket is only any good if you don't have Lots of weight on." What do you think about this comment? As I have a TRK 502 (non X) and would like to reduce the rpm in general and increase the torque a little. Thank you
Hey, I am about to do the same adjustment. However, isn't the speedometer affected by the new sprocket? I am not sure if the speedometer sensor of TRK 502 is located at the front wheel like in the old bikes or in the gearbox?
Hi :) ive tested using GPS and stays roughly the same. The speedometer sensor is the same as the rear ABS wheel sensor :) The TRK speedometer is a bit off even stock. about 8kph error @ 120kph :) Cheers Thanks for watching!
Hello !502 and 502X conversion 14/42 vs 14/44. but the rear tire has a different size. The height of the 502 is 60mm and the 502X is 70mm. Whoever wants to change the rear rosette should count it first !!
Hello! :) Yes you are right! For the TRKX I recomend changing the front sprocket, its not easy to find rear sprockets for the X :) For the normal TRK you can change both if you want :) Thanks for watching, take care!
Absolutely right :) At the time when i changed the sprocket the chain only had about 2000kms so i kept it but its always a good ideia to change everything as a set to make it last longer :) Cheers thanks for watching!
Thanks very much Paul :) I bought mine from Ebay product named "Esjot Rear Sprocket 39T 525P Steel Black Benelli Tornado 900 Tre 2003" It was prety good to install and came in black colour! That was cool! Cheers!
Thanks I was thinking of this mod for an X but I assumed the rear sprocket mounting holes would be the same on the 502 and the 502x. After your message I had a look and it would appear the mounting bolts on the 502 are 100mm diameter matching other benelli models but the X has 150mm diameter which doesn't match any other model.
@@pauldavison7105 Yes the X version is diferent sprocket :) At the tme of this video I had a normal TRK :) I am planning to change the front sprocket of the X to 15 teeth ;)
@@WolfMates I've been looking at gear charts and a 15-44 is a gear ratio of 2,93 and the stock street bike is 3,00 so I was worried that wouldn't be enough if the street version with 14-39 drops to 2,79. I'll wait to see how it goes for you.
I have just fitted 15t front and 40t rear and new chain. Was £100 on Ebay. It feels like a bigger cc bike. I like it as it dropped the revs quite a bit. Maybe lacking a bit of low grunt now, but much better on the A roads and motorways.
nice :) well done mate! I like longer gears too and its also good for the TRK on the long way because the TRK engine has high frequency vibrations at high rpm (7000+) that undo some screws and even break the TRK X sump guard braket just becouse of those high rpms ;) take care :)
@@DNOYPIANGLER haha yeah :) it happens in all of them :) On my both TRKs i didnt had any problems because im a "captain slow" and usualy i dont past above 5000rpm :)
Thanks Jack :) At the time of this video i was using 14/39 that is roughly equivalent to 15/42 (just a bit even longer) and the top speed only increases while downhill. What improves is fuel economy on the highway at higher speeds like 120kph since it lower RPMs by 500rpms. The 15/42 also lower the acceleration by 5% but it only is much noticeble if you ride with pillion or lots of luggage. Cheers!
Ola Aires Pereira :) Obrigado. É um voltimetro/termometro/relogio digital que comprei no ebay nem chega a 10€. Dá imenso jeito já que a TRK nao tem termometro externo nem voltimetro hehe. Se quiseres procura por "12v Voltimeter Thermometer" no ebay :) Abraço e Saúde!
Hola Fernando :) Es un medidor de temperatura (interno y externo), reloj y voltímetro :) Lo instalé porque me gusta saber el voltaje si todo está bien :) En el pasado tuve problemas con los reguladores de voltaje en mi honda y suzuki :) Un saludo e gracias !
@@MotorDanko en facebook? no :) te passo aqui ;) www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-In1-Car-12V-Digital-LED-Voltmeter-Voltage-Clock-Temperature-Thermometer-UKYQ/391973910415?hash=item5b4377378f:g:VSoAAOSwNYRZo4rn
Hello, im using trk502 (road) and i want the more acceleration and torque (have pillion and bagges always). Can i change the front to 13 so that it will become - 14 - 45 in theory (like same with 502x)? Thanks!
Hi Lonewolf, I have a question regarding the ODO reading. Did it not affect the reading when you change sprockets? As I have known that my Crf250L, odometer needs to be corrected with a device, if you install sprockets and tires not of specs.
Good morning :) Its a very good question, all sprocket modifications change a little percentage, it also depends on the speedometer location (the TRK is read on the rear ABS sensor, I think the CRF is on the front wheel). I my case I didnt noticed much diference, the TRK has already a big error (6-7kph) so with the sprocket change maybe 8kph error now, roughly measuring with GPS :) Thanks alot for watching and commenting :) Take care :)
@@WolfMates thanks for your quick reply. Ride safe. I also own a TRK502x and I felt that it is over revving because of the low gears. I am planning to replace the rear sprocket as you recommended. I hope I will still be able to use the stock chains. 1 tooth up in the front is equal to 3 Teeth down on the rear, more or less.
@@DNOYPIANGLER Yaps that's it :) You probably can keep the chain. If the chain lenght "scale" is near the front of the bike you can change the rear sprocket, or if the scale is to the back of the bike in alternative you can change 1 teeth on the front sprocket :) Many friends with TRK "X" have change the front to 15teeth (equivalent to rear 41 like you said) and they love it. I think the stock gearing is more for offroading... ;)
Hi Nikola :) i bought it 2 years ago on e-bay :) works very well and the temperatures and voltages are quite accurate :) Im gona leave a link with it, please keep in mind there are diferent colours available of the lcd :)
Yeah its a very interesting question, I do like the feel of the 44 teeth rear sprocket. The torque is very nice. The problem is as soon as I go to a freeway or anyroad above 100kph I go about 6k rpm or more. Some mates with TRK X chance the front sprocket to 15 teeth (thats more or less equivalent to 41 teeth rear sprocket) so im think in doing the same ;) The 44 teeth is thinking about offroad abilities ;) Cheers thanks for watching ;)
This will be one topic that you will get 50/50 opinions hehe. I will only think on doing that if 80% of mi trips were on highway, and thats not mi case at all, since i do avoid trolls/highways if i can ;) I do +/- 70 km every day (V.Pinheiro -Lisboa) but i use the national/secundary roads, and i always use the topcase and side bags. Regarding the fuel benefict, its also only true if your main trips are on highway. Perssonal opinion, i do think you will regret going to Asturias with a 15/39 :( will be cool to "get ther", but i bet u will regret it not having the 14/42 once you are "ther".... (como tentas manter o canal em ingles, achei por bem tentar colocar o comentario "de acordo") OT: Se precisares/quiseres dicas sobre as Asturias diz, sou meio viciado naquilo e drt mt anos (antes puto nascer) ia la sempre q podia, Abraço
yes :) i was thinking the same hehe those mountain roads :P I also prefer secondary roads but to get to asturias.... will testride it full cases and pillion soon to mae my decision :) So far with just the topcase i realy realy like it :) I need also to try some dirt tracks to check if 1st gear is too long now :P Thanks for watchingggggg! (Obrigado pela consideração e teres escrito em Ingles mas podes escrever em Pt se preferires :) Sim devo ir em Setembro, já é um sonho muito antigo mas nunca fui... adorava subir à Torre de Cerredo mas secalhar fica para quando la for de carro. Obrigado pela oferta de ajuda, vou aproveitar ;) abraço)
@@WolfMates Torre Cerredo deve ser melhor de carro, de mota pessoalmente ia para o lado do "Naranjo de Bulnes" miviaje.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/naranjo-de-bulnes.jpg E se queres ir a neve, vais de mota ate "Fuente De" e depois sobes 1.500m de teleferico ate ao glaciar. static2.elcomercio.es/www/pre2017/multimedia/noticias/201612/27/media/20443454.JPG viajes.chavetas.es/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/destacadafuentede-820x436.jpg Tem estradas lindas em vales espetaculares, como tantos outros sitios... e tb depende em que altura vais, e se de carro ou mota e por qt tempo. Ha estradas lindas, como a do acesso aos "lagos" que estao fechadas em alturas de ferias (excesso gente/viaturas), e la, tens depois caminhos de terra batida www.turismoasturias.es/documents/11022/1882862/04380_PORTADA_Parque_Natural_Somiedo.jpg E se fores com tempo, não te fiques pela montanha, ha baias que nem acreditas estar nas Asturias ;) cflvdg.avoz.es/default/2018/07/17/00121531820113360260517/Foto/poo.jpg www.llanes.es/sites/llanes/files/styles/slide_cabecera/public/playas1.jpg media2.clubrural.com/img990x400/pueblos/cantabria/prellezo/20160220012957-cantabria-prellezo.jpg live.staticflickr.com/322/19686936392_5a99869265_b.jpg Como pelos teus videos não deves ser de mt longe de mim, um dia que queiras tomar cafe e trocar opnioes, avisa, mas ja deixo aqui umas "opnioes" e dicas de lugares
Brutal o Naranjo de Bulnes ;) consegue se levar a mota mais acima do que Sotres não é? depois estaciona-se no "fim" daquela estrada de terra batida e o resto a pé se quiser subir até ao Refugio Urriellu right? :P Eu só acho que as motas ficam mal estacionadas lá em baixo sozinhas hehe :P que achas? thanks
@@WolfMates Tem muito a ver da altura do ano, meses verao tens mt turista e "turista", tendo a não deixar a mota demasiado tempo "sozinha" em sitios com mt confusao ou para fazer caminhadas longas, p isso prefiro Abril/Maio admito (mas eu por norma nunca gosto de me afastar muito da "menina" hehe). Mas, se é a tua 1ª vez la, duvido muito que te metas em caminhadas, vaiste perder com estradas e vales e curvas e "ir a descoberta" :D
It depends if you have the TRK 502 or the 502 X :) But i think changing the front sprocket its easier and the results are very good :) If you ride with pillion and full luggage I dont recomend changing on the road version TRK :) cheers!
the one thing putting me off of buying this bike is how undergeared it is! but 2 tooth is not enough it's still revving too fast! is it possible to change top gear ratio only? ideally revs should be down to at least 4000rpm@100km/h
yeah but then the 500cc 48hp engine would not have enough power for the 235kg :) Thats why i changed to 39 teeth but i lost 7% torque... on a heavy bike :) atm 100kph is below 5 that is the maximum torque rpm ;) Cheers mate thanks for watching!
Someone in another video said this: "I would to add a note of caution here. Before you do this, check which version of this bike you have. A TRK 502X has a 14/ 44 front / rear sprocket combination. A TRK 502 (NON X) has a 14 / 42 front / rear sprocket combination. You will REALLY struggle to get under way from a dead stop with a 15 / 42 combination on the TRK 502 Non X version of this bike as it is simply too tall for the engine. The engine doesn't have enough torque to pull the bike away from a stop line on a hill for example. Plus the 15 tooth upgrade is only ok on the X version, "IF" you don't load your bike up with a fully loaded set of panniers, top box and a pillion. I have a TRK 502 NON X version with a lot of luggage to carry. I'm having to fit a 14 / 44 set up as the original 14/ 42 sprocket set up made the bike useless if not almost dangerously slow on acceleration to ride on anything that wasn't a "Motorway." So the 15 tooth sprocket is only any good if you don't have Lots of weight on." What do you think about this comment? As I have a TRK 502 (non X) and would like to reduce the rpm in general and increase the torque a little. Thank you
i don't know.. sounds like exaggeration. ideally, the gears ratio relative to each other should be different so to achieve low revs in tops gear and still have strong first gear, but failing that, playing with sprockets is the only option
hi :) When i bought mine in Febreary 2018 Benelli didnt had any promotion. But in 2019 during some period they gave out some helmet and jackets i think, in Portugal ;) Cheers mate thanks for watching!
Olá Filipe :) A cremalheira da 502 normal não dá na X mas podes por um Pinhão de ataque de 15 dentes (de origem são 14) e equivale a menos 3 dentes na cremalheira. Sim fica mais suave principalmente na auto estrada porque as rotações baixam 600rpm +- para a mesma velocidade :) Eu também tenho uma X agora e estou a pensar fazer o mesmo ;) Obrigado!
@@WolfMates sim mas a x com 42 dentes atras ja deve ficar melhor,ja tive pinhao de 15 e voltei a tirar,por isso acho que 42 dentes atras vai ser melhor
Hola sergio Muchas gracias por tu comentario Recientemente comencé a poner subtítulos en portugués, tengo que pensar en hacerlo también en español. Un abrazo :)
You could do that but that would make the 1st gear realy long and probably wear out the clutch :) And that setup you will loose alot of torque. You can try 14/39 its already prety long gearing setup but its nice for highways :) Cheers! Thanks for watching!
Don’t understand why all you guys have to do the efforts of changing out the sprockets just to see the amount of speed/rpm change. Much easier to do the math. If, at a certain speed, for example 80kmph, a 14T front sprocket results in 4000rpm, then a 15T front sprocket, at the same speed, will result in 4000/15x14=3733rpm, or at the same rpm, the speed will increase to 80/14x15=85.7kmph.
Someone in another video said this: "I would to add a note of caution here. Before you do this, check which version of this bike you have. A TRK 502X has a 14/ 44 front / rear sprocket combination. A TRK 502 (NON X) has a 14 / 42 front / rear sprocket combination. You will REALLY struggle to get under way from a dead stop with a 15 / 42 combination on the TRK 502 Non X version of this bike as it is simply too tall for the engine. The engine doesn't have enough torque to pull the bike away from a stop line on a hill for example. Plus the 15 tooth upgrade is only ok on the X version, "IF" you don't load your bike up with a fully loaded set of panniers, top box and a pillion. I have a TRK 502 NON X version with a lot of luggage to carry. I'm having to fit a 14 / 44 set up as the original 14/ 42 sprocket set up made the bike useless if not almost dangerously slow on acceleration to ride on anything that wasn't a "Motorway." So the 15 tooth sprocket is only any good if you don't have Lots of weight on." What do you think about this comment? As I have a TRK 502 (non X) and would like to reduce the rpm in general and increase the torque a little. Thank you
Congrats!!! Such a great and detailed review!! Great job!!!
Thank you Alejandro :) Ride safe ;)
I am from India planning on buying the 502x not sure I we can change the sprocket over here.
@@ryanvnunes I bought mine on EBAY :) So im sure you can find for TRK "X" as well :)
@@WolfMates I've just recently had a test ride on the Benelli Trk 502. Below 4,000 the engine was a little buzzy. Above 7,000 the engine became progressively more harsh in vibration to the point where you wouldn't want to sustain speeds upwards of 130 kph or 80 mph. The sweet spot seems to lie from 4,000 up to the torque peak of 6,000. Your revised gearing would allow the engine to sit where it is smoothest & most comfortable. This engine seems to be tuned for mid range torque, not peak power. It is obviously restricted at the top, & I believe the excessive vibration above 7,000 comes from an artificially lean air/fuel mixture to restrict peak power for the A2 licence regs. It has a 360° crankshaft, both pistons rising & falling together, & has a balance shaft to even things out. So it shouldn't vibrate at high rpm from a mechanical perspective. This makes me think that the vibration comes from lean combustion.
@@hiyadroogs excelent explanation :) Yes the engine loves to be from 4 to 6k rpm :) I though 360º engines were vibration prone at high rpm even with a balance shaft :) Lately ive been feeling alot more vibrations at 4k to 4.5k I found out some worn o-rings on the exhaust, lets hope its just that ;) Cheers mate!
Someone in another video said this: "I would to add a note of caution here. Before you do this, check which version of this bike you have. A TRK 502X has a 14/ 44 front / rear sprocket combination. A TRK 502 (NON X) has a 14 / 42 front / rear sprocket combination. You will REALLY struggle to get under way from a dead stop with a 15 / 42 combination on the TRK 502 Non X version of this bike as it is simply too tall for the engine.
The engine doesn't have enough torque to pull the bike away from a stop line on a hill for example. Plus the 15 tooth upgrade is only ok on the X version, "IF" you don't load your bike up with a fully loaded set of panniers, top box
and a pillion. I have a TRK 502 NON X version with a lot of luggage to carry. I'm having to fit a 14 / 44 set up as the original 14/ 42 sprocket set up made the bike useless if not almost dangerously slow on acceleration to ride on
anything that wasn't a "Motorway." So the 15 tooth sprocket is only any good if you don't have Lots of weight on."
What do you think about this comment? As I have a TRK 502 (non X) and would like to reduce the rpm in general and increase the torque a little. Thank you
Hey, I am about to do the same adjustment. However, isn't the speedometer affected by the new sprocket? I am not sure if the speedometer sensor of TRK 502 is located at the front wheel like in the old bikes or in the gearbox?
Hi :) ive tested using GPS and stays roughly the same. The speedometer sensor is the same as the rear ABS wheel sensor :) The TRK speedometer is a bit off even stock. about 8kph error @ 120kph :) Cheers Thanks for watching!
Hello !502 and 502X conversion 14/42 vs 14/44. but the rear tire has a different size. The height of the 502 is 60mm and the 502X is 70mm. Whoever wants to change the rear rosette should count it first !!
Hello! :) Yes you are right! For the TRKX I recomend changing the front sprocket, its not easy to find rear sprockets for the X :) For the normal TRK you can change both if you want :) Thanks for watching, take care!
i read that when changing sprockets , you should change the chain ,so that stretched chain will not ware new sprocket excessively
Absolutely right :) At the time when i changed the sprocket the chain only had about 2000kms so i kept it but its always a good ideia to change everything as a set to make it last longer :) Cheers thanks for watching!
Great informative review, thank you.
Thanks very much Peter! Cheers!
Very informative! Thank you sir!
Thanks Norman :) They say its better late than never :) I totaly missed your comment :( Cheers!
Love your channel.
Where did you get a 39 tooth sprocket.
Which bike is it from please
Thanks very much Paul :) I bought mine from Ebay product named "Esjot Rear Sprocket 39T 525P Steel Black Benelli Tornado 900 Tre 2003" It was prety good to install and came in black colour! That was cool! Cheers!
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Esjot-Rear-Sprocket-39T-525P-Steel-Black-Benelli-Tornado-900-Tre-2003/333104134409?hash=item4d8e8db909:g:irwAAOSw5e5cfs4T
Thanks I was thinking of this mod for an X but I assumed the rear sprocket mounting holes would be the same on the 502 and the 502x.
After your message I had a look and it would appear the mounting bolts on the 502 are 100mm diameter matching other benelli models but the X has 150mm diameter which doesn't match any other model.
@@pauldavison7105 Yes the X version is diferent sprocket :) At the tme of this video I had a normal TRK :) I am planning to change the front sprocket of the X to 15 teeth ;)
@@WolfMates I've been looking at gear charts and a 15-44 is a gear ratio of 2,93 and the stock street bike is 3,00 so I was worried that wouldn't be enough if the street version with 14-39 drops to 2,79.
I'll wait to see how it goes for you.
I have just fitted 15t front and 40t rear and new chain. Was £100 on Ebay. It feels like a bigger cc bike. I like it as it dropped the revs quite a bit. Maybe lacking a bit of low grunt now, but much better on the A roads and motorways.
nice :) well done mate! I like longer gears too and its also good for the TRK on the long way because the TRK engine has high frequency vibrations at high rpm (7000+) that undo some screws and even break the TRK X sump guard braket just becouse of those high rpms ;) take care :)
@@WolfMates lol, I just had the skidplate bracket welded.
@@DNOYPIANGLER haha yeah :) it happens in all of them :) On my both TRKs i didnt had any problems because im a "captain slow" and usualy i dont past above 5000rpm :)
Hi, nice vlog! are you using 15 42 on TRK 502 standard? if yes, did the top speed increase? thank you
Thanks Jack :) At the time of this video i was using 14/39 that is roughly equivalent to 15/42 (just a bit even longer) and the top speed only increases while downhill. What improves is fuel economy on the highway at higher speeds like 120kph since it lower RPMs by 500rpms. The 15/42 also lower the acceleration by 5% but it only is much noticeble if you ride with pillion or lots of luggage. Cheers!
but the top speed did not decrease? thanks bro! I bought 15t already! wishing you more subscribers! 😊
Good day, thanks for the nice videos.
Where did you get the 15 tooth front sprocket?
Thanks
Hi there :) Thanks very much! I got it from a friend but you can get it on ebay or any Benelli dealer :) Cheers!
Ordered mine from Aliexpress!
thank you for that review...
it has a useful informations
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Thank you for watching :) Take care :)
@@WolfMates
👍👍✌✌✌ peace
i need your help, where to buy the rear 39t sproket? i'm from portugal (coimbra)
In thailand 14/43 is very good bro 👌👏
Nice! I bet its a great country to ride our TRKs :) Cheers to Thailand from Portugal! :)
Viva, interessantes videos! O que é esse mostrador que tens acima do quadrante da Benelli?
Ola Aires Pereira :) Obrigado. É um voltimetro/termometro/relogio digital que comprei no ebay nem chega a 10€. Dá imenso jeito já que a TRK nao tem termometro externo nem voltimetro hehe. Se quiseres procura por "12v Voltimeter Thermometer" no ebay :) Abraço e Saúde!
Tens o link?
Obrigado, não tinha visto o fim da mensagem. Já encontrei!
Cual es el aparato que tienes sobre el velocimetro? buen video por cierto!
Hola Fernando :) Es un medidor de temperatura (interno y externo), reloj y voltímetro :) Lo instalé porque me gusta saber el voltaje si todo está bien :) En el pasado tuve problemas con los reguladores de voltaje en mi honda y suzuki :) Un saludo e gracias !
@@WolfMates puedes pasar el link al grupo de trk de telegram? Soy Fer GZ
@@MotorDanko El grupo TRK de Portugal?
Creo haber visto que ahi estabas, no?
@@MotorDanko en facebook? no :) te passo aqui ;) www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-In1-Car-12V-Digital-LED-Voltmeter-Voltage-Clock-Temperature-Thermometer-UKYQ/391973910415?hash=item5b4377378f:g:VSoAAOSwNYRZo4rn
What volt meter are you using?
Hello, im using trk502 (road) and i want the more acceleration and torque (have pillion and bagges always). Can i change the front to 13 so that it will become - 14 - 45 in theory (like same with 502x)? Thanks!
Good info..thanks
Thank you for watching :) Cheers!
Hi Lonewolf, I have a question regarding the ODO reading. Did it not affect the reading when you change sprockets? As I have known that my Crf250L, odometer needs to be corrected with a device, if you install sprockets and tires not of specs.
Good morning :) Its a very good question, all sprocket modifications change a little percentage, it also depends on the speedometer location (the TRK is read on the rear ABS sensor, I think the CRF is on the front wheel). I my case I didnt noticed much diference, the TRK has already a big error (6-7kph) so with the sprocket change maybe 8kph error now, roughly measuring with GPS :) Thanks alot for watching and commenting :) Take care :)
@@WolfMates thanks for your quick reply. Ride safe. I also own a TRK502x and I felt that it is over revving because of the low gears. I am planning to replace the rear sprocket as you recommended. I hope I will still be able to use the stock chains. 1 tooth up in the front is equal to 3 Teeth down on the rear, more or less.
@@DNOYPIANGLER Yaps that's it :) You probably can keep the chain. If the chain lenght "scale" is near the front of the bike you can change the rear sprocket, or if the scale is to the back of the bike in alternative you can change 1 teeth on the front sprocket :) Many friends with TRK "X" have change the front to 15teeth (equivalent to rear 41 like you said) and they love it. I think the stock gearing is more for offroading... ;)
Hello Friend. I saw a temperature indicating instrument and a voltmeter above the dashboard. Where did you buy it? Do you have a link to them?
Hi Nikola :) i bought it 2 years ago on e-bay :) works very well and the temperatures and voltages are quite accurate :) Im gona leave a link with it, please keep in mind there are diferent colours available of the lcd :)
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-Display-Car-Temperature-Thermometer-AlarmClock-Backlight-Voltage-Meter/122380762863?hash=item1c7e763eef:g:jU4AAOSwTVlb5uJv
@@WolfMates Thanks a lot. I wish you a safe ride
you too friend :) stay safe! :)
What do you think about changing sprocket on 502 X to be same as 502?
Yeah its a very interesting question, I do like the feel of the 44 teeth rear sprocket. The torque is very nice. The problem is as soon as I go to a freeway or anyroad above 100kph I go about 6k rpm or more. Some mates with TRK X chance the front sprocket to 15 teeth (thats more or less equivalent to 41 teeth rear sprocket) so im think in doing the same ;) The 44 teeth is thinking about offroad abilities ;) Cheers thanks for watching ;)
This will be one topic that you will get 50/50 opinions hehe.
I will only think on doing that if 80% of mi trips were on highway, and thats not mi case at all, since i do avoid trolls/highways if i can ;)
I do +/- 70 km every day (V.Pinheiro -Lisboa) but i use the national/secundary roads, and i always use the topcase and side bags.
Regarding the fuel benefict, its also only true if your main trips are on highway.
Perssonal opinion, i do think you will regret going to Asturias with a 15/39 :( will be cool to "get ther", but i bet u will regret it not having the 14/42 once you are "ther"....
(como tentas manter o canal em ingles, achei por bem tentar colocar o comentario "de acordo")
OT: Se precisares/quiseres dicas sobre as Asturias diz, sou meio viciado naquilo e drt mt anos (antes puto nascer) ia la sempre q podia, Abraço
yes :) i was thinking the same hehe those mountain roads :P I also prefer secondary roads but to get to asturias.... will testride it full cases and pillion soon to mae my decision :) So far with just the topcase i realy realy like it :) I need also to try some dirt tracks to check if 1st gear is too long now :P Thanks for watchingggggg!
(Obrigado pela consideração e teres escrito em Ingles mas podes escrever em Pt se preferires :) Sim devo ir em Setembro, já é um sonho muito antigo mas nunca fui... adorava subir à Torre de Cerredo mas secalhar fica para quando la for de carro. Obrigado pela oferta de ajuda, vou aproveitar ;) abraço)
@@WolfMates Torre Cerredo deve ser melhor de carro, de mota pessoalmente ia para o lado do "Naranjo de Bulnes"
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E se queres ir a neve, vais de mota ate "Fuente De" e depois sobes 1.500m de teleferico ate ao glaciar.
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Tem estradas lindas em vales espetaculares, como tantos outros sitios... e tb depende em que altura vais, e se de carro ou mota e por qt tempo.
Ha estradas lindas, como a do acesso aos "lagos" que estao fechadas em alturas de ferias (excesso gente/viaturas), e la, tens depois caminhos de terra batida
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E se fores com tempo, não te fiques pela montanha, ha baias que nem acreditas estar nas Asturias ;)
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Como pelos teus videos não deves ser de mt longe de mim, um dia que queiras tomar cafe e trocar opnioes, avisa, mas ja deixo aqui umas "opnioes" e dicas de lugares
Brutal o Naranjo de Bulnes ;) consegue se levar a mota mais acima do que Sotres não é? depois estaciona-se no "fim" daquela estrada de terra batida e o resto a pé se quiser subir até ao Refugio Urriellu right? :P Eu só acho que as motas ficam mal estacionadas lá em baixo sozinhas hehe :P que achas? thanks
@@WolfMates Tem muito a ver da altura do ano, meses verao tens mt turista e "turista", tendo a não deixar a mota demasiado tempo "sozinha" em sitios com mt confusao ou para fazer caminhadas longas, p isso prefiro Abril/Maio admito (mas eu por norma nunca gosto de me afastar muito da "menina" hehe).
Mas, se é a tua 1ª vez la, duvido muito que te metas em caminhadas, vaiste perder com estradas e vales e curvas e "ir a descoberta" :D
@@x_Paulo_Nogueira_x pois o meu receio é esse mesmo :) Para caminhadas, levar carro :P Obrigado pelas dicas um abraço
So, do you recommend changing the front sprocket or the rear, or both?
It depends if you have the TRK 502 or the 502 X :) But i think changing the front sprocket its easier and the results are very good :) If you ride with pillion and full luggage I dont recomend changing on the road version TRK :) cheers!
@@WolfMates, I have the 502 and ride solo, light load.
@@smlaveauful Well then if you like to ride more relaxed you might try 15Teeth front sprocket :) It good specialy for highways
@@WolfMates, I mainly ride highway speeds, 55mph plus!
@@smlaveauful Then you will like the 15teeth sprocket for sure :) You will loose a bit aceleration of course but its nice on highway :)
the one thing putting me off of buying this bike is how undergeared it is! but 2 tooth is not enough it's still revving too fast! is it possible to change top gear ratio only? ideally revs should be down to at least 4000rpm@100km/h
yeah but then the 500cc 48hp engine would not have enough power for the 235kg :) Thats why i changed to 39 teeth but i lost 7% torque... on a heavy bike :) atm 100kph is below 5 that is the maximum torque rpm ;) Cheers mate thanks for watching!
@@WolfMates yes i agree, but it would enable low revs at cruising speed even if it couldn't reach current max speed in top gear
@@sasham4073 yap i also like to cruise at low revs :) well in teory you could try to drop the gearing even fruther hehe :)
Someone in another video said this: "I would to add a note of caution here. Before you do this, check which version of this bike you have. A TRK 502X has a 14/ 44 front / rear sprocket combination. A TRK 502 (NON X) has a 14 / 42 front / rear sprocket combination. You will REALLY struggle to get under way from a dead stop with a 15 / 42 combination on the TRK 502 Non X version of this bike as it is simply too tall for the engine.
The engine doesn't have enough torque to pull the bike away from a stop line on a hill for example. Plus the 15 tooth upgrade is only ok on the X version, "IF" you don't load your bike up with a fully loaded set of panniers, top box
and a pillion. I have a TRK 502 NON X version with a lot of luggage to carry. I'm having to fit a 14 / 44 set up as the original 14/ 42 sprocket set up made the bike useless if not almost dangerously slow on acceleration to ride on
anything that wasn't a "Motorway." So the 15 tooth sprocket is only any good if you don't have Lots of weight on."
What do you think about this comment? As I have a TRK 502 (non X) and would like to reduce the rpm in general and increase the torque a little. Thank you
i don't know.. sounds like exaggeration. ideally, the gears ratio relative to each other should be different so to achieve low revs in tops gear and still have strong first gear, but failing that, playing with sprockets is the only option
Did u got a free jacket?after buying this adv
hi :) When i bought mine in Febreary 2018 Benelli didnt had any promotion. But in 2019 during some period they gave out some helmet and jackets i think, in Portugal ;) Cheers mate thanks for watching!
Tenho uma 502x e tenciono por a cremalheira da 502 normal,sera que ela fica mais suave??
Olá Filipe :) A cremalheira da 502 normal não dá na X mas podes por um Pinhão de ataque de 15 dentes (de origem são 14) e equivale a menos 3 dentes na cremalheira. Sim fica mais suave principalmente na auto estrada porque as rotações baixam 600rpm +- para a mesma velocidade :) Eu também tenho uma X agora e estou a pensar fazer o mesmo ;) Obrigado!
@@WolfMates ja existe umas cremalhiras com 42 dentes para a x
@@filipemoreira9291 sim exacto mas não "encaixam" na roda da normal ;) Era isso que queria dizer.
@@WolfMates sim mas a x com 42 dentes atras ja deve ficar melhor,ja tive pinhao de 15 e voltei a tirar,por isso acho que 42 dentes atras vai ser melhor
Thank you
Hola... Enhorabuena me parecen unos vídeos geniales... Pero si pudieras subtitularlosa español para mi serían aún mejores... 👍Gracias.
Hola sergio Muchas gracias por tu comentario Recientemente comencé a poner subtítulos en portugués, tengo que pensar en hacerlo también en español. Un abrazo :)
Can we 15 front and 39 rear ?
You could do that but that would make the 1st gear realy long and probably wear out the clutch :) And that setup you will loose alot of torque. You can try 14/39 its already prety long gearing setup but its nice for highways :) Cheers! Thanks for watching!
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Thanks alot Albert :) Cheers!
Don’t understand why all you guys have to do the efforts of changing out the sprockets just to see the amount of speed/rpm change. Much easier to do the math.
If, at a certain speed, for example 80kmph, a 14T front sprocket results in 4000rpm, then a 15T front sprocket, at the same speed, will result in 4000/15x14=3733rpm, or at the same rpm, the speed will increase to 80/14x15=85.7kmph.
Someone in another video said this: "I would to add a note of caution here. Before you do this, check which version of this bike you have. A TRK 502X has a 14/ 44 front / rear sprocket combination. A TRK 502 (NON X) has a 14 / 42 front / rear sprocket combination. You will REALLY struggle to get under way from a dead stop with a 15 / 42 combination on the TRK 502 Non X version of this bike as it is simply too tall for the engine.
The engine doesn't have enough torque to pull the bike away from a stop line on a hill for example. Plus the 15 tooth upgrade is only ok on the X version, "IF" you don't load your bike up with a fully loaded set of panniers, top box
and a pillion. I have a TRK 502 NON X version with a lot of luggage to carry. I'm having to fit a 14 / 44 set up as the original 14/ 42 sprocket set up made the bike useless if not almost dangerously slow on acceleration to ride on
anything that wasn't a "Motorway." So the 15 tooth sprocket is only any good if you don't have Lots of weight on."
What do you think about this comment? As I have a TRK 502 (non X) and would like to reduce the rpm in general and increase the torque a little. Thank you
Hi I Wolfie 🇦🇺👍
Thankssssss Russel :)
@@WolfMates Hola, gracias por video. tengo Benelli TRK 502X me gustaria cambiar kit de transmicion.
@@TheTvfactum Hola :) muy bueno :) gracias!