There is a reason why a lot of people like Caera more than Tess. It is similar to why a lot of people prefer Rem to Emilia in ReZero. Tess started on good terms with Arthur, liked him from early on, and their story progressed from there. There was always a constant progression in their relationship, always moving in a positive direction. Caera however, was viewed as an enemy by Arthur at first, she lied to him and they had a relationship developing on both ups and downs for a long time, making it feel more realistic and relatable. She earned Arthur's trust and respect through her actions, when Tess felt like she had earned both these things from the start without effort. Also Caera is a student to Seris which is also another huge W.
I think Caera is definitely not just fanservice. Shes great. Not top 6 tho. She seems to be trying to find her own identity. Caera will have a big moment later in the story imo.
@@Seriss3 dam the Tess and caera haters are just the Tess and caera fandom fighting on who's best girl to the point that they actually hate the other fandom and the character. And idk why anyone hates bairon that is if they read the manhwa only but in the light novel if they catched up to it there is no reason to hate bairon
@@elwin5635 exactly what I'm saying, ppl are hating on tess because of mistakes she made as a kid and other people are hating in caera just because she is another female arthur talks to. Neither of them are super useful nor completely useless. And the bairon haters only hate him because he doesn't treat arthur like a god the moment he sees him. Not everyone has to love the MC
SPOILER WARNING: Also Aether arthur is muuuuuuuuUUUUUch stronger than any mana core variant. Even Realmhart 3, yes Arthur was protecting people while in it, however the most he could do to Cadell was hold him at a stand still, Cadell wasn't enraged or going for the kill because originally it was Nico's job. Also the fact that Arthur crippled Nico with 1 hit in the Victoriad (he's much stronger since then since he got a new layer of his Aether core) and even killed Cadell, Arthur is low Asuran adult level, definitely nowhere near Kezzess and Agrona level, but a half Asura who was stated to be just as strong as any other Asura his age said that Arthur's presence was like a forearm being held against his throat, also when talking to a Dragon Lord back at Vildorial it was stated that the fight could've gone either way. Arthur's 3rd realmhart stage was the peak of his mana strength but is honestly surpassed by the time he's teaching at the Central Dominion.
That’s not a spoiler. Let me tell you a true spoiler based on the latest patreon chapter of TBATE. Are you ready? Final chance to back off? Seriously this is a MAJOR SPOILER Ok, I already warned you… Arthur defeated Agrona with his Fate Ability.
On the last topic of Phase 3 Arthur vs Current Arthur think about it this way I do 100% believe that in this state he is stronger than Nico no questions but Cadell wasn't even really trying in that fight as he saw Arthur inferior to him. And also Current Arthur also counters Time stop/Static Void just because he uses Aether, kinda like when Arthur used it on Rhenia or the old lady who could see in the future she was immune just because she could use Aether. In terms of resources you also have to account for Regis eating up Arthurs mana while in fights(even tho it wasn't much) And when push comes to shove Current Arthur still has Destruction which literally SH*TS on Phase 3 Arthur. But... (hot take) Phase 3 Arthur is cooler than Current Arthur....
I disagree on the Cadell one bc if Cadell was stronger he wouldve killed and he had no reason to go easy on him if Regis didnt help maybe since he was getting emotional but prior to tht ha winning against Cadell
To be fair on the first point, i think Windsom has explained to Art that the Wraiths were Agrona's elite forces. However, they werent named back then and to be fair, I agree with your points. In the author's defense tho, I'd argue that in the scheme of things, the wraiths (or at least the ones we met) werent supposed to be anything special. They were just a way for Arthur to grow further, both physically and mentally (since he destroyed the military town and all that which made him very conflicted). The only antagonists which I would say are truly important to the story are Indrath, Nico (at least in the past), Agrona, Cecilia, and thats it. Taci and Cadell served their purposes. However, like the wraiths, they didnt get much characterization. Because they were just there as minor obstacles, not true walls. Awesome vid btw
Thanks 🙏🏾 But I honestly have no hope for Agrona so far if his only real forces are himself and Cecilia. Considering how irrelevant the scythes would be against actual asura. Let’s just hope his plan is insane 😂
@@NovaLance it must be crazy because like u said, the scythes are fodder against asura, and even the wraiths are nothing to the top asura. I'm guessing his big plan is trying to control Fate? Cuz it was said before that he was trying to study it. If it's just him using Cecilia it'll be a major letdown for me
Although not fleshed out the wraiths were hinted at all the way back in Vol 5 with Windsom talking about half breeds that can't fight due to the treaty
I always took that half ashura squad that was there then gone in 2 chapters is just the beginning. I imagine them as a hidden organization of power with hundreds to thousands since it is the group built to fight the gods
On the topic of NIco hating grey Without getting into more recent spoilers I remember a while ago when nico got a pov in the dungeon I wrote like a 3000 word summery of the past life and why Nico hates Grey, and after reading to responses that got it's honestly shocking how little people actually understood that Nico's hatred for grey is 100% justifiable when you look at it from anyone's POV, except Grey's Grey abandoned Nico to train with his master when Nico was at his lowest Grey ignored Nico when he warned him that his master was evil Grey from Nico's pov flat out killed Cecilia to take the kingship Grey committed mass genocide as the king and most likely plunged the world into war ignoring the ritual of king duels just to take vengeance for his family by killing millions And when Grey did partake in king duels, just reading the 2nd extra chapter "kings duel" showed how people in the other feared Grey before his death while Nico almost defiantly has an inferiority complex that stemmed from Grey always being more physically talented, and possibly Cecilia liking Grey first, when looking at the kind of actions Grey took when he started training for kingship, without the explanations of his inner monologues he really just looks evil af.
Grey being human. yeah. but we know that all of this for cecilia. thats the main reason. he thought grey killed cecilia. tho he did but it was cecilia doing self deletion using grey.
@@darkren88 Nico very clearly wants to kill grey on top of saving Cecilia. If all he cared about was Cecilia he wouldnt have tried to run Greys fade at the victoriad after already reincarnating her. Then again its possible he wants to kill Agrona more than Grey at this point especially after he got out of Agronas spell
@@TexasKing100 he was, If I remember right there was a chapter dedicated to Nico breaking free from Agronas control. He also gave the dragon core to Caera to give to Arthur
Does Nico even actually hate grey? If he does it a really low hate, he completely changed after getting his core wrecked, so his anger was probably shit from agrona
I get your point when Arthur fought the wraiths it just to show us of how far Arthur has become instead of defeating 2 scythes it was to prove agrona was wrong on not killing Arthur when he had the chance and Tbate is more realistic than any other power scaling Isekai characters it's not your typical unrealistic power scaling that the mc becomes so powerful that he can one shot the demon king and whatever
I still prefer tessia over caera (just my opinion ) as a lover I mean caera is way more useful then tessia but I do prefer tessia over caera as a lover again ITS MY OPINION I just love childhood friends turn into lovers so yea
Yeah, Caera sure is an attractive character, but she's not just that and she's certainly not just a "fanservice character". But I also don't think she's as amazing a character as some say.
Exactly bruh I didn't even know she had big boobs except for the artwork and I think her character has really has really been fleshed out in recent chapters to be more than just an arthur companion.
Aether core Arthur vs mana core Arthur in the thumbnail is like a Sith lord vs a rookie Jedi LOL Beautiful See people ? This is art Not Caera's AI watermelon boobs Nova never disappoints 🔥
This is how i see it. Arthur stage 3 was struggling against 2 scythes albiet not peak shape and he was protecting people. But dont forget nico was the weakest of the scythes, and cadell was the strongest. Grey took out 5 wraiths, which r stronger than scythes. He did this while also making sure any of them couldnt leave to report back to agrona. I dont even think arthur stage 3 would be able to augment his body while its breaking down, or if it would even help. And grey said himself that mana doesnt have strong protection against aether. And grey has a dragon physique, a relic armor, and aether than can toughen both his body and his armor. Atthur stage 3 attacks were also equal to basalisk magic. It canceled eachother out but thats it. Grey's aether attacks not only cancel out the magic but also overwhelm it.
I was waiting for Hot takes part 2 and u just dropped it As always, a fire video 🔥🔥 And yeah, do you plan to review Tbate memes or anime memes in the future?
I agree since his core can now contain more aether and b4 tht he defeated Chul (half asura) but after he gained more aether Chul told him his presence is like having a fist in his throat
Well i won't say Caera is mary sue. But She doesn't have many struggles. She is almost perfect. She just tags along with Arthur and gets everything done. Whereas Tess had to struggle for every step. I guess that's why i consider Tess over Caera.
SPOILER WARNING: The sad thing about series like this is there is always gonna be people ratting on the female characters for well, being female. Caera is one of the head figures in the rebellion against Agrona and is sent to get help from Arthur, she literally goes to the continent that would kill her on sight just for her horns and has the balls to talk to the generals. with Cecelia, she's under direct manipulation of Agrona and is starting to realize that he's lying to her and trying to turn her against her companions so I think she will come to the good side, although I also think that Arthur is gonna use some sort of Aether to get her a body by the end of the series so he can be with Tess again and Cecelia and be with Nico. Just because you dislike a character doesn't make them a bad character, like Lucas for instance. Everyone hates him, but he's a good character that develops into insanity as time progresses, or Bairon who was a complete dickhead at first then soon befriends Arthur. I think we're just nearing Nico and Cecelia's redemption arcs. I feel like there isn't really fan service in TBATE, Aya was a solid character that was said to be charming but she's more so terrifying than charming as stated by Arthur, I feel like TurtleMe leers away from objectification of women in his novels which I highly respect.
Yo I’m so scared to read your comment. But bless you for the 2 spoiler warnings . Two people spoilt the time stop thing for me in the FIRST LINE and I didn’t sleep that night. 😂
Theres 10s of thousands of wraiths. But I fully agree with your point on the wraiths we see. They could have been built up / executed so much better (also, ebook version released and it seems its pretty much the same)
I'm sorry what lol, where was it ever stated there was tens of thousands of them. If that were true why would Agrona even use normal people in the war seeing as one Wraith could've taken down Dicathen solo. Tens of thousands could've probably threatened Epheotus
I believe it’s chapter 104 “the great 8” but windsom said something about mutts that we’re waiting for the elite group of Asura that ephiotus sent. I guess I didn’t realize those were the wraiths he was referring to
That was just one squad of Wraiths though, there are more squads of wraiths. They are pretty much Agrona's special forces, for killing Asuras, and it never said they were stronger than all of the Scythes. Their combined power is probably higher than a single scythe maybe, but individually probably not. We will likely find out in the near future if Seris ends up fighting the wraiths which seems pretty likely. I think Seris can probably take them, though she is probably the strongest Scythe now since Cadell is dead. I think Seris and Cadell were the top 2 Scythes.
tbf with gray blowing nico off wasnt it basically implied that trainer bitch (forgetting her name) was drugging him. when he drank the water before the fight his mood completely changed
if Caera is a fan-service character.. then what would be tess? The most cliche character ever in every isekai... an elf and princess.. to make it worse
Tess is the romantic interest of Art. She is someone who grew up as a princess so she's very naive. As the story progresses, she makes mistakes like any other well-written character. With these mistakes, she is able to grow to become a more mature person that is worth being appreciated. She is someone who suffers throughout the story and someone who knows our main character nearly better than anyone else. She's someone who saved him emotionally and also was about to sacrifice herself for Arthur. She is someone who sacrificed herself for Ellie, despite the fact she didn't need to. That's who Tess is. A flawed person who went through growth as the story progressed. Now, what is Caera? When did she save Art? Perhaps her greatest accomplishment was sparing him when she didn't even know who she was. Caera is a friend.
Maybe initially she has some clichés, but as the story progresses she becomes an increasingly unique character. Tess is a character who grows and matures with her mistakes.
i have a theory i havent seen anyone else say this but i think alot of people thought of this while reading tbate what if the current era arthur is living is like thousands of years in to the future bc the djinns could have been the the peoples descendtants where grey was the king although this was kind of proven thats its not but still a good theory
A lot of these hot takes just seem to be wrong . But that kind of makes sense since you mentioned you didn't finish volume 10. Like Nicos Anger being justified and if Arthur is stronger than Asura.. Also, IDK if power scaling in the story is busted, although not perfect, its very complex to make the power scaling in any fantasy world perfect, in that regard I think TBATE does a better job with it than over 90% of fantasy stories. IMO
Yeah I’m making my way through but knowing what happened to aldir hurts that I got spoiled and also some people say book 10 is bad overall so I hope to finish soon and make my own thoughts
The power scaling is DBZ levels of busted. Every time we see a ceiling, it gets absolutely shattered. Like first we see Lances as leagues above everyone else, then we see retainers effortlessly kill them, then we see Scythes completely blow them out of the water, then we see Arthur completely blow Scythes out of the water, and now its implied hes still nowhere close to being on par with an Asura. Its like we take the power level of the story increases 10 fold every volume and the Lances are basically the Z fighters that are completely useless now, Seris is Piccolo whos way above the other Z fighters (Lances) but also completely useless when compared to Arthur and whatever foe is next up.
@@TexasKing100 power scaling is actually pretty accurate, what you mean to say is the main character is too OP? but then what did you expect, it did start as a feel-good novel/manhwa. also, it took Arthur like 3 volumes to reach the lances and then another 3 to reach the scythes... it wasn't really like from chapter to chapter he just got on a new level... idk man... I think you are just objectively wrong on this one.
Tess made a dumb decision when she decided to go out and look for her parents but its understandable but when she decided to go on a detour during her mission even tho she got strict orders that was dumb, i get tht they all agreed to go but srsly when u lose a war is ur first thought on ur first mission gonna be to not follow orders?
Caera is best girl I will not hear otherwise. Tess lost me when she went to look for her parents. I don't care how immature you are, you can't defend that kind of stupidity. She was told multiple times how dumb it was and still did it.
She was never told how dumb it was. Arthur told her they would go find them together if she made up with virion (he lied) so she took matters into her own hands. any normal person would do the same thing
When your parents sacrificed their lives and everyone else's for you, you kinda might make stupid decisions. Something literally any normal human being would do... Speaking of stupid decisions, nice comment
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There is a reason why a lot of people like Caera more than Tess.
It is similar to why a lot of people prefer Rem to Emilia in ReZero.
Tess started on good terms with Arthur, liked him from early on, and their story progressed from there. There was always a constant progression in their relationship, always moving in a positive direction.
Caera however, was viewed as an enemy by Arthur at first, she lied to him and they had a relationship developing on both ups and downs for a long time, making it feel more realistic and relatable. She earned Arthur's trust and respect through her actions, when Tess felt like she had earned both these things from the start without effort. Also Caera is a student to Seris which is also another huge W.
Hmmm haven’t seen someone use logic to explain that yet. It’s usually a horny answer. I can see this lol
Thats logical enough . I couldn't have said it better .I just like caera better as a character than tess .
I think Caera is definitely not just fanservice. Shes great. Not top 6 tho. She seems to be trying to find her own identity. Caera will have a big moment later in the story imo.
Nova always here to spit fax when i start losing hope in the tbate fandom
Haha
My question is why are you losing hope in the tbate fandom?
@@elwin5635 tess haters, Caera haters, bairon haters, I could go on and on...
@@Seriss3 dam the Tess and caera haters are just the Tess and caera fandom fighting on who's best girl to the point that they actually hate the other fandom and the character. And idk why anyone hates bairon that is if they read the manhwa only but in the light novel if they catched up to it there is no reason to hate bairon
@@elwin5635 exactly what I'm saying, ppl are hating on tess because of mistakes she made as a kid and other people are hating in caera just because she is another female arthur talks to. Neither of them are super useful nor completely useless. And the bairon haters only hate him because he doesn't treat arthur like a god the moment he sees him. Not everyone has to love the MC
SPOILER WARNING:
Also Aether arthur is muuuuuuuuUUUUUch stronger than any mana core variant. Even Realmhart 3, yes Arthur was protecting people while in it, however the most he could do to Cadell was hold him at a stand still, Cadell wasn't enraged or going for the kill because originally it was Nico's job. Also the fact that Arthur crippled Nico with 1 hit in the Victoriad (he's much stronger since then since he got a new layer of his Aether core) and even killed Cadell, Arthur is low Asuran adult level, definitely nowhere near Kezzess and Agrona level, but a half Asura who was stated to be just as strong as any other Asura his age said that Arthur's presence was like a forearm being held against his throat, also when talking to a Dragon Lord back at Vildorial it was stated that the fight could've gone either way. Arthur's 3rd realmhart stage was the peak of his mana strength but is honestly surpassed by the time he's teaching at the Central Dominion.
Arthur also counters Kezzess himself's timestop in the light novel
Nah, the wraiths are made to kill elite dragons and Arthur defeated them. He is at least that level
That’s not a spoiler. Let me tell you a true spoiler based on the latest patreon chapter of TBATE.
Are you ready?
Final chance to back off?
Seriously this is a MAJOR SPOILER
Ok, I already warned you…
Arthur defeated Agrona with his Fate Ability.
On the last topic of Phase 3 Arthur vs Current Arthur think about it this way I do 100% believe that in this state he is stronger than Nico no questions but Cadell wasn't even really trying in that fight as he saw Arthur inferior to him. And also Current Arthur also counters Time stop/Static Void just because he uses Aether, kinda like when Arthur used it on Rhenia or the old lady who could see in the future she was immune just because she could use Aether. In terms of resources you also have to account for Regis eating up Arthurs mana while in fights(even tho it wasn't much)
And when push comes to shove Current Arthur still has Destruction which literally SH*TS on Phase 3 Arthur. But... (hot take) Phase 3 Arthur is cooler than Current Arthur....
I have no idea how anyone could think phase three art is anywhere near current art
@@fork6057 I completely agree
I disagree on the Cadell one bc if Cadell was stronger he wouldve killed and he had no reason to go easy on him if Regis didnt help maybe since he was getting emotional but prior to tht ha winning against Cadell
@@XxxX_2 I was talking about when he was in phase 3 but yea I agree with you
Cadell lost to current Arthur but he dogs the version of Arthur they’re talking about there is no way he beats current Arthur
To be fair on the first point, i think Windsom has explained to Art that the Wraiths were Agrona's elite forces. However, they werent named back then and to be fair, I agree with your points.
In the author's defense tho, I'd argue that in the scheme of things, the wraiths (or at least the ones we met) werent supposed to be anything special. They were just a way for Arthur to grow further, both physically and mentally (since he destroyed the military town and all that which made him very conflicted).
The only antagonists which I would say are truly important to the story are Indrath, Nico (at least in the past), Agrona, Cecilia, and thats it. Taci and Cadell served their purposes. However, like the wraiths, they didnt get much characterization. Because they were just there as minor obstacles, not true walls. Awesome vid btw
Thanks 🙏🏾
But I honestly have no hope for Agrona so far if his only real forces are himself and Cecilia.
Considering how irrelevant the scythes would be against actual asura. Let’s just hope his plan is insane 😂
@@NovaLance it must be crazy because like u said, the scythes are fodder against asura, and even the wraiths are nothing to the top asura.
I'm guessing his big plan is trying to control Fate? Cuz it was said before that he was trying to study it. If it's just him using Cecilia it'll be a major letdown for me
Although not fleshed out the wraiths were hinted at all the way back in Vol 5 with Windsom talking about half breeds that can't fight due to the treaty
I always took that half ashura squad that was there then gone in 2 chapters is just the beginning. I imagine them as a hidden organization of power with hundreds to thousands since it is the group built to fight the gods
On the topic of NIco hating grey
Without getting into more recent spoilers I remember a while ago when nico got a pov in the dungeon I wrote like a 3000 word summery of the past life and why Nico hates Grey, and after reading to responses that got it's honestly shocking how little people actually understood that Nico's hatred for grey is 100% justifiable when you look at it from anyone's POV, except Grey's
Grey abandoned Nico to train with his master when Nico was at his lowest
Grey ignored Nico when he warned him that his master was evil
Grey from Nico's pov flat out killed Cecilia to take the kingship
Grey committed mass genocide as the king and most likely plunged the world into war ignoring the ritual of king duels just to take vengeance for his family by killing millions
And when Grey did partake in king duels, just reading the 2nd extra chapter "kings duel" showed how people in the other feared Grey before his death
while Nico almost defiantly has an inferiority complex that stemmed from Grey always being more physically talented, and possibly Cecilia liking Grey first, when looking at the kind of actions Grey took when he started training for kingship, without the explanations of his inner monologues he really just looks evil af.
Grey being human. yeah. but we know that all of this for cecilia. thats the main reason. he thought grey killed cecilia. tho he did but it was cecilia doing self deletion using grey.
@@darkren88 Nico very clearly wants to kill grey on top of saving Cecilia. If all he cared about was Cecilia he wouldnt have tried to run Greys fade at the victoriad after already reincarnating her.
Then again its possible he wants to kill Agrona more than Grey at this point especially after he got out of Agronas spell
Theres also a high likely hood that Agronas been fucking with his mind to hate Grey even more than he should
@@TexasKing100 he was, If I remember right there was a chapter dedicated to Nico breaking free from Agronas control.
He also gave the dragon core to Caera to give to Arthur
Does Nico even actually hate grey? If he does it a really low hate, he completely changed after getting his core wrecked, so his anger was probably shit from agrona
Rip nova for being spoiled
Also, the wraiths are at scythe level (but below cadell) as stated by turtle
I get your point when Arthur fought the wraiths it just to show us of how far Arthur has become instead of defeating 2 scythes it was to prove agrona was wrong on not killing Arthur when he had the chance and Tbate is more realistic than any other power scaling Isekai characters it's not your typical unrealistic power scaling that the mc becomes so powerful that he can one shot the demon king and whatever
Yeah I really like that aspect of the story, Arthur never really has a chance to be complacent against the real enemies else he’ll die lol
I still prefer tessia over caera (just my opinion ) as a lover I mean caera is way more useful then tessia but I do prefer tessia over caera as a lover again ITS MY OPINION I just love childhood friends turn into lovers so yea
Yh but we dont even know if she gonna be bck but i prefer Caera
Yeah, Caera sure is an attractive character, but she's not just that and she's certainly not just a "fanservice character". But I also don't think she's as amazing a character as some say.
The only character in all of tbate who deserves hate is lucas, I hate that fucker
Exactly bruh I didn't even know she had big boobs except for the artwork and I think her character has really has really been fleshed out in recent chapters to be more than just an arthur companion.
Dam I never even seen a tbate fan saying that caera is a "fanservice character" like that's just crazy as hell
Aether core Arthur vs mana core Arthur in the thumbnail is like a Sith lord vs a rookie Jedi LOL
Beautiful
See people ? This is art
Not Caera's AI watermelon boobs
Nova never disappoints 🔥
Haha I like the comparison
This is how i see it. Arthur stage 3 was struggling against 2 scythes albiet not peak shape and he was protecting people. But dont forget nico was the weakest of the scythes, and cadell was the strongest. Grey took out 5 wraiths, which r stronger than scythes. He did this while also making sure any of them couldnt leave to report back to agrona. I dont even think arthur stage 3 would be able to augment his body while its breaking down, or if it would even help. And grey said himself that mana doesnt have strong protection against aether. And grey has a dragon physique, a relic armor, and aether than can toughen both his body and his armor. Atthur stage 3 attacks were also equal to basalisk magic. It canceled eachother out but thats it. Grey's aether attacks not only cancel out the magic but also overwhelm it.
See now whenever anyone uses reasoning, you can see clearly who is stronger. But they always just wanna use head canno😂
I was waiting for Hot takes part 2 and u just dropped it
As always, a fire video 🔥🔥
And yeah, do you plan to review Tbate memes or anime memes in the future?
Ohhh I never thought of TBATE memes
I might do that hehe
And shawn's in the video! Yay!
Lol who is Shawn
Nova : Arthur isn't Asura level
Me after reading the first few chapters of volume 11 : So who's gonna tell him ?
Omggggg, yeah I better catch up
Where can I read vol 10?
I agree since his core can now contain more aether and b4 tht he defeated Chul (half asura) but after he gained more aether Chul told him his presence is like having a fist in his throat
caera only had loyalty for seris not her family ever. 😭
Well i won't say Caera is mary sue. But She doesn't have many struggles. She is almost perfect. She just tags along with Arthur and gets everything done.
Whereas Tess had to struggle for every step.
I guess that's why i consider Tess over Caera.
I wanna give caera at least one more book coz Tess had a crazy head start 😂 but I see your point
@@NovaLance I'd say caera has had as much screen time as Tess at this point.
And turtle has said there won't be a harem
My grandpa told me if you cant have one girl have em both
Art x tess x carea a lovely trio
Make it a four way and add nico/elijah . As weird as it sounds.
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The sad thing about series like this is there is always gonna be people ratting on the female characters for well, being female. Caera is one of the head figures in the rebellion against Agrona and is sent to get help from Arthur, she literally goes to the continent that would kill her on sight just for her horns and has the balls to talk to the generals. with Cecelia, she's under direct manipulation of Agrona and is starting to realize that he's lying to her and trying to turn her against her companions so I think she will come to the good side, although I also think that Arthur is gonna use some sort of Aether to get her a body by the end of the series so he can be with Tess again and Cecelia and be with Nico.
Just because you dislike a character doesn't make them a bad character, like Lucas for instance. Everyone hates him, but he's a good character that develops into insanity as time progresses, or Bairon who was a complete dickhead at first then soon befriends Arthur. I think we're just nearing Nico and Cecelia's redemption arcs.
I feel like there isn't really fan service in TBATE, Aya was a solid character that was said to be charming but she's more so terrifying than charming as stated by Arthur, I feel like TurtleMe leers away from objectification of women in his novels which I highly respect.
Yo I’m so scared to read your comment. But bless you for the 2 spoiler warnings . Two people spoilt the time stop thing for me in the FIRST LINE and I didn’t sleep that night. 😂
Theres 10s of thousands of wraiths. But I fully agree with your point on the wraiths we see. They could have been built up / executed so much better (also, ebook version released and it seems its pretty much the same)
I'm sorry what lol, where was it ever stated there was tens of thousands of them. If that were true why would Agrona even use normal people in the war seeing as one Wraith could've taken down Dicathen solo. Tens of thousands could've probably threatened Epheotus
@@justsora7519the treaty. And it was stated in vol 5 by Windsom
@@czpokeblade2839 Could I get the ch? I just don't remember this lol sry
I believe it’s chapter 104 “the great 8” but windsom said something about mutts that we’re waiting for the elite group of Asura that ephiotus sent.
I guess I didn’t realize those were the wraiths he was referring to
That was just one squad of Wraiths though, there are more squads of wraiths. They are pretty much Agrona's special forces, for killing Asuras, and it never said they were stronger than all of the Scythes. Their combined power is probably higher than a single scythe maybe, but individually probably not. We will likely find out in the near future if Seris ends up fighting the wraiths which seems pretty likely. I think Seris can probably take them, though she is probably the strongest Scythe now since Cadell is dead. I think Seris and Cadell were the top 2 Scythes.
Some have shipped bairon and caera. Melzri is pretty nice too, but I think the bairon and caera shipping is more likely
That would be nice too
Technically the motherfigure of arthur and nico told them to take care of cecilia so she was more forced on them in my opinion
Extra extra silence for those who got spoiled about aldir dying while a guy was complaining about getting spoiled that aldir dies.
ahh i forgot i got spoiled about that. extra silence for me
tbf with gray blowing nico off wasnt it basically implied that trainer bitch (forgetting her name) was drugging him. when he drank the water before the fight his mood completely changed
I got spoiled on that too bro. RIP
I cant even begin to understand how Caera could be considered a fan service character when she does absolutely nothing fan servicey
I mean there is fan service bug Caera is full fledged character who real motivations and flaws. In no way is she a Mary sue at all
How is it t pronounced ?
Is it like C aera
Or
Kaera
i think its Sia Ra
@@darkren88 yeah that's what I think
I think the Travis from the audiobook said it like kaera so idk, I guess it can be said anyway lol
I always pronounce it like Care-Ah
Where should I read TBATE manwha without getting alot of ads and redirects?
Use the opera browser ad blocker it’s pretty good
Tapas, the official source for it
Can you make the music a little quieter when speaking its difficult to make sense of what you say sometimes
Is there a specific part this happened in? Or the entire thing?
The whole video it could just be me tho
Ohh I see, I’ll make not of that. My bad
if Caera is a fan-service character.. then what would be tess? The most cliche character ever in every isekai... an elf and princess.. to make it worse
tess action is understandable. she isnt the most cliche. are you really reading or just hating?
Tess is the romantic interest of Art. She is someone who grew up as a princess so she's very naive. As the story progresses, she makes mistakes like any other well-written character. With these mistakes, she is able to grow to become a more mature person that is worth being appreciated.
She is someone who suffers throughout the story and someone who knows our main character nearly better than anyone else. She's someone who saved him emotionally and also was about to sacrifice herself for Arthur. She is someone who sacrificed herself for Ellie, despite the fact she didn't need to.
That's who Tess is. A flawed person who went through growth as the story progressed.
Now, what is Caera? When did she save Art? Perhaps her greatest accomplishment was sparing him when she didn't even know who she was. Caera is a friend.
Maybe initially she has some clichés, but as the story progresses she becomes an increasingly unique character.
Tess is a character who grows and matures with her mistakes.
@@Lestes545 what makes tbate great is that their actions are believable
@@darkren88 Yeah.
i have a theory i havent seen anyone else say this but i think alot of people thought of this while reading tbate what if the current era arthur is living is like thousands of years in to the future bc the djinns could have been the the peoples descendtants where grey was the king although this was kind of proven thats its not but still a good theory
Another great video. Thanks for the spoilers lol
Lol whoops 😂
Is it me or all the Seris AI pics are scorching.
lol yeah
I also got spoiled on this.
Lol no one is safe
A lot of these hot takes just seem to be wrong . But that kind of makes sense since you mentioned you didn't finish volume 10.
Like Nicos Anger being justified and if Arthur is stronger than Asura..
Also, IDK if power scaling in the story is busted, although not perfect, its very complex to make the power scaling in any fantasy world perfect, in that regard I think TBATE does a better job with it than over 90% of fantasy stories. IMO
I thought it was obvious but these are not my statements, I am just bringing them up from polls and other comments
@@NovaLance Ye ye, I know, wasn't bashing or anything, great video. curious what you will think once you catch up with the LN. :)
Yeah I’m making my way through but knowing what happened to aldir hurts that I got spoiled and also some people say book 10 is bad overall so I hope to finish soon and make my own thoughts
The power scaling is DBZ levels of busted. Every time we see a ceiling, it gets absolutely shattered. Like first we see Lances as leagues above everyone else, then we see retainers effortlessly kill them, then we see Scythes completely blow them out of the water, then we see Arthur completely blow Scythes out of the water, and now its implied hes still nowhere close to being on par with an Asura. Its like we take the power level of the story increases 10 fold every volume and the Lances are basically the Z fighters that are completely useless now, Seris is Piccolo whos way above the other Z fighters (Lances) but also completely useless when compared to Arthur and whatever foe is next up.
@@TexasKing100 power scaling is actually pretty accurate, what you mean to say is the main character is too OP? but then what did you expect, it did start as a feel-good novel/manhwa. also, it took Arthur like 3 volumes to reach the lances and then another 3 to reach the scythes... it wasn't really like from chapter to chapter he just got on a new level... idk man... I think you are just objectively wrong on this one.
wait a second tess is cecilia and drawf boy is nico ?
😂 yes
arthur should have made aldir a slave to the elves, death is a sentence too light for what he did.
lol
imo i like caera x arthur more than arthur x tess
Why doesn’t nico have horns is it because hes weak
Hmmm he shouldn’t have vritra blood. Unless I’m missing something
Sorry for spoiling dude 😬
Lmaooo, I know it wasn’t intentional 😂
Jesus Loves you
Amen
Tess made a dumb decision when she decided to go out and look for her parents but its understandable but when she decided to go on a detour during her mission even tho she got strict orders that was dumb, i get tht they all agreed to go but srsly when u lose a war is ur first thought on ur first mission gonna be to not follow orders?
Remind me of the event you’re referring to again?
Is this when Aya had to come save her?
Caera is best girl I will not hear otherwise. Tess lost me when she went to look for her parents. I don't care how immature you are, you can't defend that kind of stupidity. She was told multiple times how dumb it was and still did it.
She was never told how dumb it was. Arthur told her they would go find them together if she made up with virion (he lied) so she took matters into her own hands. any normal person would do the same thing
if this happends to you, what would you do? ITS HER PARENTS For F Sake! thats not stupid.
When your parents sacrificed their lives and everyone else's for you, you kinda might make stupid decisions.
Something literally any normal human being would do...
Speaking of stupid decisions, nice comment
It's funny to me how Tess trying to save her parents becomes dumb But Arthur blowing up the entire war camp of soldiers is considered badass😂
@@rohit_7777 coz its war?