That's the problem with these polls - they poison the pot by giving you pre-conceived notions about how good a song is. Their reaction here is like a psycho-sematic reaction to a placebo drug - they went into it with the mindset that the song was a loser, and they of course met their own expectations. I hate when people tell me something isn't good before I've formed an opinion of it myself, because even being aware of this effect, I am a human machine and cannot change this hardwired feature of being sympathetic to other humans' experiences.
Tom Petty is never late, he arrives precisely when he means too. The world was in full blown hair metal when he was writing this! You better put some respect on this man name.
Why? He's boring. He even admitted on a talk show once that he barely put any writing effort into some of his songs, that he wrote them in minutes. Pretty simple stuff.
@@VicMikesvideodiary to paraphrase one of the greatest song writers of all time, Mr. Townes Van Zandt, that's called a butterfly net song, it just falls out of the sky and you catch it. Why would you throw a great song away just because it came easy? Half the Beatles catalogue probably came easy because they were brilliant and in an extremely creative phase. Later in life the creative doorway will close and you'll have to work hard for it. Working hard for it can feel contrived. That said, there are songs Tom wrote like Free Falling that do nothing for me. Sure it's catchy and people really like it, but I find it boring like you said. On the other hand American Girl is a great song. To each his own.
He later had another hit during the peak of the grunge explosion. A song he, incidentally, wrote and recorded for a Greatest Hits album. A song which actually went down as one of his most popular, belonging on a Greatest Hits album. Who does that? Tom Petty, that's who.
@@nostrathomas2437 Yes, Van's music never grows old on me. I was just out in my garden last night, and listening to his later stuff with my ear phones on. So good.
Agreed. They don’t get it because they don’t know Petty or his huge body of work. If they would start at the beginning and go all the way through they would realize there have been variations, but overall he kept to his style of music throughout.
@@NOLAgenX yeah, if anything this album was like his return to form that fans had been hankering for rather than copying an old trend or a rock revival.
Refugee was my intro in 1979 to TP. I bought Damn The Torpedoes Album then in 8th grade. Stayed a dedicated fan for everything my entire life. TP is pure Americana. 👍
Tom Petty got a lot of props in his day for being authentically old school and not jumping on the synth pop stuff that classic rockers could not stand.
No, not Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers! This was Tom's 1st solo album, & featured contributions from the Heartbreakers, as well as Jeff Lynne (ELO) & George Harrison (the Beatles). The line in there about, 'Me & Del were singing little runaway', is a reference to Del Shannon & his big hit, 'Runaway'. Shannon was tapped to replace Roy Orbison in the line-up of the Traveling Wilburys, after Orbison's unexpected death. But, Shannon died, too, after they'd recorded a new version of Runaway together. So, the Wilburys soldiered on as a quartet - Petty, Lynne, Harrison, & Dylan. Oh, & this was released some 20 years or so after Scooby-Doo!
@@murraypft yes, and Benmont Tench was blindsided with the news he wasn't on this project... he was also going through a rough patch at that time so it was all as well anyway...
@@FloridaManRacer Benmont Tench played on *Full Moon Fever* . He played the piano in "The Apartment Song". It stood to reason that Tench would appear, since he played on approximately 72% of all albums released between 1987 and 1993. You know how Queen used to put disclaimers in their liner notes that "no synthesizers were used in the making of this album"? Well, in the late '80s and early '90s, artists should've put "Benmont Tench was not used in the making of this album" in *their* liner notes.
Yes, I would guess the reason why it sounds more like 70s is because of the whole Traveling Wilburys project, which also happened around this time period, probably had some influence.
The thing about Tom Petty and why you feel like it's 'out of date' is you kind of need to know his past. He met Elvis as a kid, grew up on Chuck Berry, Befriended George Harrison of the Beatles and had a 40 year career in music. The man was making that sound long before most. He wasn't late, he was just doing what he'd always done, and did to the end of his life. Playing traditional original Rock & Roll music.
Late - no way - Tom Petty was Tom Petty. He rocked his way. I don’t think he ever really changed much and he filled large venues doing it, for decades. “Late” is just not really a Petty thing.
He didn't go backwards guys. You've no idea about him. This is just Tom Petty being Tom Petty. From beginning to the unfortunate end of his career. And bless him for it. Nobody sounded or sounds like him
Man, boys. You've GOT to be careful about comparing songs and time periods. That's the worst thing you can do. When a song is written, whether it's "Late" or not isn't a concern! Music is about getting people to FEEL the emotion of the song, and that's what Tom Petty does. He's a legend, and you don't wind up in a Super group with George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Roy Orbison (Try him out!) and Jeff Lynne (from ELO) without knowing what you're doin'! So maybe it's not him, but YOU GUYS who are "Late", hm? ;) Love ya both as always. Edit: WOAHOHO! HOLY CRAP! This blew up huge in the span of a little while huh?! Thanks guys. :) I'll just say, I'd love the boys to react to The Who performing "A Quick One" at the Rolling Stones' Rock & Roll Circus if possible! Love you all!
Especially if you weren’t alive during one or both periods. There’s no way to judge it from that standpoint if you weren’t there. And sometimes old is new…and terrific. Just check out The Blasters who A&A would not get.
@@burmajones803 I was just going by the fact that they didn’t like the old rock n roll style of Paradise By the Dashboard Lights. The Blasters’ drummer, Bill Bateman, is amazing. Like a human metronome. One of the unheralded greatest drummers of our lifetimes.
@@moniphil I agree, roots and rockabilly made a revival in the 80's. The Blasters are great. Also, NRBQ, Rockpile, Dave Edmunds, Los Lobos, even John Mellencamp (who's never been my favorite, but I am getting more into his music at a later age).
@@susanklasinski1805 Pink Houses and Authority Song are really good. I included Pink Houses in a 1983 poll suggestion on Friday. He had a great drummer too (give the drummers some love!).
Tom Petty is iconic. You may not get him, which is fine. But ultimately when you begin to really listen to and get into his catalogue, Tom Petty was who he was from beginning to end. And as you listen to it all, there are just no bad Tom Petty songs. Even his work with Mudcrutch is amazing. The more you listen, the more you understand his band and see some of his live clips online, you will appreciate him even more. In fact, your ears will crave hearing him more and more. Petty snd the Heartbreakers - wow. I recommend “Breakdown” from very early in his career.
Song for song, one of the highest quality songwriters in the genre. And I'm HUGE Dylan fan. Bob had higher highs and lower lows. TP just consistently brought very good songs.
Tom Petty Didn’t care about late in the game, he didn’t care about being popular or contemporary, all he cared about was rocking out! All his albums are like that. But I am so glad you got to listen to one of his songs. You do a phenomenal job getting into the song, way better than anyone else I’ve ever heard.
You all hit on the fact that Tom Petty sounds like Tom Petty, not that he was late to anything. You should check out Damn the Torpedoes which was the record for him. Refugee or Don't Do Me Like That are great songs.
The Damn the Torpedoes tour was my very first concert. 8 or 9 of us crammed into my cousins ‘63 ‘Cuda driving for 3hrs in thick fog to get to the Augusta Civic Center in Maine. The fog was so thick on the way home that we had to put one of us on the hood of the car to point out the yellow line in the road and watch for moose. Tommy Tutone was the opening act. Our seats were on the floor, 8th row back, in front of the stage left speaker stack. I couldn’t hear for 3 days after. 😆 I might still have the threadbare t-shirt hiding around here somewhere.
There's no denying that Tom and The Heartbreakers had a unique sound, but in terms of this song I think refinement is a better word to use than regression. It's Tom doing it his way, and doing it to the best of his ability. The end result is a terrific song that is a perfect example of the Petty Sound. If you want to hear a couple of songs where Tom stretches the boundaries of that sound a bit, I recommend "You Got Lucky" and "Don't Come Around Here No More."
Refinement is absolutely a proper term here. I think this period is where Tom's _progression_ as a musician, and naturally, age, is most evident, where the music evolved from a more youthful and live raw energy (Damn the Torpedoes) into masterful song crafting in the studio (Wildflowers). The best songwriters never stagnate. "Don't Come Around Here No More" is a great example of him getting into studio craft and would be a curious test of A&A's aversion to the 80s sound! Though maybe you need a more chronological TP introduction to fully appreciate it.
Tom Petty was not "late to the game"... Full Moon Fever was the antidote needed in 1989 to counter all the banal hairband crap. It was perfect timing by Petty when he released this solid gem of an album. It actually sounded FRESH at the time because of the pabulum that was flooding the airwaves. 1989 was most certainly a transition year for pop music. Who knew Grunge was out there...waiting to pounce.
Alex: I don't like the 80's overproduction sound ✔️ Also Alex: I love the 70's rock genre ✔️ Somehow Still Alex: I love the sound of Tom Petty bc it sounds like late 70's (and doesn't sound like 80's production) ✔️ Overanalyzing Alex: I am penalizing Petty for not being born a decade earlier 🙄 EDIT: Maybe Petty should get points for his retro-style and helping end the 80's synth sound... 🌝🤒
The fact that you think this song doesn’t sound like it should exist in the 1980s just proves you don’t know music from the 1980s as well as you think you do. But also, subtracting points based on when something came out is dumb.
You’re correct on that. I think there needs to be some open mindedness from Andy & Alex when listening to ‘80’s music. Going into this era with a bias is going to hinder their reaction.
A&A will listen to all these great songs and musicians 20 years from now and they will still be bouncing thier heads like they are to this song. In other words , you two both love this song. It shows in your reaction.
@@BuckForearm He always had this roots/power pop/jangle pop (Byrds-esque) sound to him. But this might have been his last album with his signature sound, then he went more Wilburys/Dylan-sounding.
@@susanklasinski1805 yeah it looks like traveling Wilburys was 1988 and this was 1989 and I remember when this album came out it immediately struck me how his voice just sounded more Dylan like. I love that these young kids are reviewing these songs but I wish they had a little more context to discuss.
I think people sometimes forget the extent to which a lot of "classic rock" type artists were still putting out big rock radio hits in the late 80s/ early 90s. Like this is the around the same time as Neil Young was putting out "Rockin the Free World" and AC/DC was putting out "Thunderstruck". Also doesn't seem too out of place given that this was around the same time John Cougar Mellancamp was still churning out a lot of hits. And this is only a year after Tom Petty took part in the Folk/Rock supergroup of the Travelling Wilburys.
Classic Rock was from 1965 through, I think 1980, but classic rock bands still put out amazing tunes. Sorry late 80s babies, Pearl Jam and Nirvana will never be classic rock; the vault closed decades ago.
It's not late it's just Tom Petty. The basic style never really changed. And we loved him for it! Now check out some TP & the heartbreakers. "Refugee". "Breakdown". Petty is probably my favorite live rock act over the years and I've seen just about all of 'em. For sheer energy and party atmosphere from beginning to end. The band is tight AF live. A hit machine for over 25 years. RIP
Can we give praise to Heartbreaker Mike Campbell's solo work on this track (even though this was a T.P. solo project)? He was always coming up with the perfect licks for Petty's perfectly crafted rockers.
Tom Petty is widely underappreciated in my opinion. Tremendous body of work, great band, terrific live as well as in the studio. At his best with driving, kinetic tunes like this. Great call on Mike Campbell's lead guitar too.
It was refreshing to hear this in the late 80's. Grunge was about to explode and Hair Bands had become more and more ridiculous and were experiencing their well-deserved self-destruction. Petty was still Petty!
"Full Moon Fever" was the second CD I ever owned, when they first started to become mainstream. There is a part halfway through the album where Tom's stoner drawl starts to speak..."hello CD listeners. This is the part of the album where those listening to the record or cassette need to turn over the album or cassette to side 2. In consideration of them there will be a brief pause while they do that................thank you, and now here's side 2.". Cracked me up when I heard it, but that was the first time you could actually listen to an album uninterrupted with having to flip over to a second side.
The “reaction” to this song is actually a commentary to their own understandably limited, library of songs they’ve heard, and the order they’ve heard them in. You dont know, what you don’t know. No one does.
@@clasicradiolover True but to A&A's defense, this community keeps supplying them with quality songs, and somewhere along the way I believe that they may have asked about being given cringe-worthy, bad songs to listen to and rate.
@@jeffreymosher6334 I was actually saying that I feel that these guys are a little critical of some stuff so I tend to give them some slack if it's not something they like. Even if I love it.
This song brought back a '70s vibe when the world desperately needed it. You weren't there for the '80s, so you wouldn't know, and I still like you guys
Tom Petty didn't write a weak song. In 1989 this was a breath of fresh air from most of the over-produced rock of the time. Keep listening to this tune. This album FULL MOON FEVER and more... TOM PETTY's tunes are timeless. Perhaps I'm biased being that I am a confirmed Neo-Tom Petty fan. LOL
Full Moon Fever is so iconic. Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne, who have dozens of billboard hits between them, just going "Yeah, let's just make a whole fucking album of hit singles"
Tom Petty wasn’t “late”. He was one of the few rockers who stuck to his R&R roots and carried the torch throughout the awful ‘80’s- the absolute worst decade of the classic rock era.
@@maryannanderson1744 The 80s had it's moments (thank God for U2) but really can't hold a candle to the previous 2 decades when rock was coming of age. The amount of growth, variation and evolution in the 60s and 70s has not been matched in the rock and roll era. Imo the 80s was saturated with corporate rock, synth pop and big haired Eddie Van Halen clones. Sure, I generalize....a bit😁
Just about anything Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers did from the 70's and early 80's is gold. My personal favorites are 'Breakdown' and 'Woman in Love'.
Tom Petty & The Heartbreaker are among the gods of Rock n' Roll........and they played this song in concert ...OMG!!!! We the audience WENT CRAZY....and they palyed it for like 15 minutes.....one of the lead guitar players was playing that solo at middle and end of the song and he went OFF!!! That solo went on FOREVER!!!!!! Man that was a great concert.....and Tom Petty a total Troubadour bows Elizabethan style after every completion of his songs saying, "Thank you Thank you so much" AAAAAaaaahhhhhh, just excellent!!! Tom....I love you...R.I.P. my Brother!!!!
When you see people like Dave Grohl or Axl Rose perform with Tom back in the day, that shows how timeless his music was. Much respect to the man. Also, that ending guitar solo is one of my favorites of all time (performed by Mike Campbell, Tom's bandmate from the Heartbreakers). So underrated.
Several of my friends and I have had what's called the Tom Petty rule for many years. Anytime you're riding in the car flipping through the radio if a song is a Tom Petty song or you'd consider it as good/better you do not change the station because you will not find anything better.
That is actually Dave Stewart for the Eurythmics that wrote that song, after a strange night spent at Stevie Nick's house, and hearing an argument with the ex-. Don't come around here no more.... Dave was gonna give her the song, but she no-showed. The producer called Tom Petty, and said, get down here, now. Dave Stewart has a great song. Dave sits on the mushroom at the video opening. I love writing/producing from both Dave Stewart and Annie Lennox.
Tom Petty should never have been a runner up but good things come to those who wait, and here we are!!! Today is my birthday and I’m glad you chose this song!!!
Happy Birthday to you! Stay in touch with all your family and friends!! Glad you made it another year, as so many other folks didn't! Don't ever take them for granted as I had to have a double lung transplant last year and my birthday is coming up later this month also! Tom was always one of my favorites!
Rick Rubin has said that he was obsessed with the Jeff Lynne production on this album. But when he and Petty worked together on the Wildflowers album, he wanted it to sound completely different.
I can tell you after living through the music scene in the 80's, I was 19 when this song came out and it was such a welcome relief from so much of what we were enduring on top 40 radio.
“Trees flew by, me and Del were singin' little Runaway, I was flyin” - a reference to the 1961 song “Runaway” by Del Shannon. Time to hit some of Tom’s earlier stuff: “A Woman in Love” “Breakdown” “Refugee” “Don’t Do Me Like That” “The Waiting”
This track, and Bruce Springsteens' "Born in the USA" are the center of Heartland Rock to me, just absolutely fantastic songs about Americana/rock/blues and everything that surrounds it.
You guys crack me up. You just heard one of the best guitar solos ever played. All you can think of is Scooby doo and whether it was made in the 80’s or 70’s. You guys gave Zappa more respect than TP.
Who really cares about Tom Petty “running down a dream” ? Love the song. Not even in the top 10 of Tom Petty‘s best. It only picked up traction because of people voting against “Paradise by the Dashboard Lights” which generated some of the best surprise reactions on this channel n my opinion.
Tom Petty was a rockin sound for those who didnt like where the 80's were going - he took it to the next level in his late career check out 'you don't know how it feels" or 'into the great wide open'
Another reason to appreciate the gift of Tom Petty: He ignored disco that was raging all around us when he debuted and he resisted selling out or changing his sound throughout the 80's and even into the 90's. Types of music: R&B, Gospel, Early Rock, Smooth Pop (early 70's), Disco, Mid Rock to Heavy Metal, Punk, Yacht Rock, Hair Metal, Synth Rock, Grunge. And then there was Tom Petty (& the Heartbreakers)
I am going to call for Even the Losers next, because it's a fantastic song, and because of that opening weird discordance, and "It's just the normal noises in here" make a brilliant transition.
You absolutely need to hold off on Mary Jane's Last Dance bc it really is so great. Tom Petty is one of those artists whose sound is best experienced in chronological order.
Regarding your discussion about when the song was released, this is Petty. He didn't follow musical trends. He did what he did for several decades and you could arguably put any of his songs in any decade and they'll stand up.
Refugee was his huge breakout hit and album Skipping ahead 10 years? Go back to early breakout hit rockers Refugee, Here Comes my Girl, Breakdown live from ‘85, sooooo many great songs, The Waiting
Alex and Andy "I wish we had music like they had in the 70s Tom petty puts out a song reminiscent of the 70s Alex and Andy: to much like the 70s,I give it an A minus
He was in another band called The Traveling Wilburys. You might have heard of the other members…founder George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Roy Orbison, Jeff Lynn and Jim Keltner. They were kind of good. 2 albums.
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Finally some Tom Petty....the waiting was the hardest part.
Nice one, i see what you did there :-)
Even the losers win sometimes...
😘
Well played.
He was beginning to feel like a refugee!
Think of him what you will, he's got a little space to fill.
Guy's, it doesn't matter when a song comes out. A great song is a great song.
100% true. Feels like they're nitpicking this one a little bit.
@@michaellynch5254 Agree.
This song was the theme to my teen years. Good songs do not matter when they come out.
Not all songs are timeless though...👊👍😎
That's the problem with these polls - they poison the pot by giving you pre-conceived notions about how good a song is. Their reaction here is like a psycho-sematic reaction to a placebo drug - they went into it with the mindset that the song was a loser, and they of course met their own expectations. I hate when people tell me something isn't good before I've formed an opinion of it myself, because even being aware of this effect, I am a human machine and cannot change this hardwired feature of being sympathetic to other humans' experiences.
Hey guys….rock and roll was hanging on by a thread when this song came out. Tom Petty was one of several who refused to let it go….thank God!!
Amen!
Long live rock…I need it everyday…hey that could be a great tune…🤷🏻♂️🤔😂🤙🏼
Tom Petty is never late, he arrives precisely when he means too. The world was in full blown hair metal when he was writing this! You better put some respect on this man name.
Gandalf!
Why? He's boring. He even admitted on a talk show once that he barely put any writing effort into some of his songs, that he wrote them in minutes. Pretty simple stuff.
@@VicMikesvideodiary to paraphrase one of the greatest song writers of all time, Mr. Townes Van Zandt, that's called a butterfly net song, it just falls out of the sky and you catch it. Why would you throw a great song away just because it came easy? Half the Beatles catalogue probably came easy because they were brilliant and in an extremely creative phase. Later in life the creative doorway will close and you'll have to work hard for it. Working hard for it can feel contrived. That said, there are songs Tom wrote like Free Falling that do nothing for me. Sure it's catchy and people really like it, but I find it boring like you said. On the other hand American Girl is a great song. To each his own.
He later had another hit during the peak of the grunge explosion. A song he, incidentally, wrote and recorded for a Greatest Hits album. A song which actually went down as one of his most popular, belonging on a Greatest Hits album. Who does that? Tom Petty, that's who.
@@obligatoryhandle being awesome never goes out of style. Dope is dope, regardless of decade.
Tom Petty isn't late to the game, gentlemen. He is timeless.
Yes.....Timeless. ...That is an accurate description of Tom Petty...He was AWESOME
No shit, I saw him live in high school in the late 70s LOL!
Tom Petty’s genre is Tom Petty and Tom Petty’s era/time period is Tom Petty!
Like Van Morrison, his creative juices never ran out.
@@royalway12 word!! Into the Mystic and Days Like This 20 years apart and you could flip them around and they still just sound like Van Morrison!
@@nostrathomas2437 Yes, Van's music never grows old on me. I was just out in my garden last night, and listening to his later stuff with my ear phones on. So good.
So we'll.said!!!
Dude is a national treasure, RIP Tom Petty,such a great loss.. cA
"LATE???" LOL. You can't be late to your own unique sound and styles my dudes.
Agreed. They don’t get it because they don’t know Petty or his huge body of work. If they would start at the beginning and go all the way through they would realize there have been variations, but overall he kept to his style of music throughout.
@@NOLAgenX yeah, if anything this album was like his return to form that fans had been hankering for rather than copying an old trend or a rock revival.
Finally, Tom Petty. "Refugee" next. Loved your truck story, Alex.
I’m wondering if he did buy her the flowers, or go get a bottle of Jack
@@HamiltonRb 🤣
Hell yes!
Yeah, Refugee is a good one but I’m lobbying for “Breakdown.”
Refugee was my intro in 1979 to TP. I bought Damn The Torpedoes Album then in 8th grade. Stayed a dedicated fan for everything my entire life. TP is pure Americana. 👍
He’s not late to the game. That was always Tom Pettys sound and it was always great. He didn’t need to change with the times.
Tom Petty always sounds like Tom Petty. Decade doesn't matter.
A lot like Dylan imo
No, he sounded a lot like Bob Dylan. Not the greatest voice, but he put out kickass, timeless songs.
@@KneeJerkReactions13 Especially in the early days.
@@CamiMack5616 I meant his style.
Actually he was try to sound like Roger McGuinn of the Byrds, influenced his whole catalog.
Tom Petty got a lot of props in his day for being authentically old school and not jumping on the synth pop stuff that classic rockers could not stand.
On the money!
You Got Lucky was in 1982.
No, not Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers! This was Tom's 1st solo album, & featured contributions from the Heartbreakers, as well as Jeff Lynne (ELO) & George Harrison (the Beatles). The line in there about, 'Me & Del were singing little runaway', is a reference to Del Shannon & his big hit, 'Runaway'. Shannon was tapped to replace Roy Orbison in the line-up of the Traveling Wilburys, after Orbison's unexpected death. But, Shannon died, too, after they'd recorded a new version of Runaway together. So, the Wilburys soldiered on as a quartet - Petty, Lynne, Harrison, & Dylan. Oh, & this was released some 20 years or so after Scooby-Doo!
Was gonna comment on that. You beat me to it. If I remember correctly, Mike Campbell did play on this album.
@@murraypft yes, and Benmont Tench was blindsided with the news he wasn't on this project... he was also going through a rough patch at that time so it was all as well anyway...
You made all the points I was going to make.
@@FloridaManRacer Benmont Tench played on *Full Moon Fever* . He played the piano in "The Apartment Song". It stood to reason that Tench would appear, since he played on approximately 72% of all albums released between 1987 and 1993. You know how Queen used to put disclaimers in their liner notes that "no synthesizers were used in the making of this album"? Well, in the late '80s and early '90s, artists should've put "Benmont Tench was not used in the making of this album" in *their* liner notes.
Yes, I would guess the reason why it sounds more like 70s is because of the whole Traveling Wilburys project, which also happened around this time period, probably had some influence.
The thing about Tom Petty and why you feel like it's 'out of date' is you kind of need to know his past. He met Elvis as a kid, grew up on Chuck Berry, Befriended George Harrison of the Beatles and had a 40 year career in music. The man was making that sound long before most. He wasn't late, he was just doing what he'd always done, and did to the end of his life. Playing traditional original Rock & Roll music.
Late - no way - Tom Petty was Tom Petty. He rocked his way. I don’t think he ever really changed much and he filled large venues doing it, for decades. “Late” is just not really a Petty thing.
This song somehow makes my car go faster
or my bike..zroomm..
Agree I am listening on my treadmill and I started turning up the speed dial
Well he was driving in the song .
This is just one of those songs you listen to with the windows down on a summer day and just smile while feeling the wind in your hair.
...all on it’s own.
He didn't go backwards guys. You've no idea about him. This is just Tom Petty being Tom Petty. From beginning to the unfortunate end of his career. And bless him for it. Nobody sounded or sounds like him
Man, boys. You've GOT to be careful about comparing songs and time periods. That's the worst thing you can do. When a song is written, whether it's "Late" or not isn't a concern! Music is about getting people to FEEL the emotion of the song, and that's what Tom Petty does. He's a legend, and you don't wind up in a Super group with George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Roy Orbison (Try him out!) and Jeff Lynne (from ELO) without knowing what you're doin'! So maybe it's not him, but YOU GUYS who are "Late", hm? ;) Love ya both as always.
Edit: WOAHOHO! HOLY CRAP! This blew up huge in the span of a little while huh?! Thanks guys. :) I'll just say, I'd love the boys to react to The Who performing "A Quick One" at the Rolling Stones' Rock & Roll Circus if possible! Love you all!
Especially if you weren’t alive during one or both periods. There’s no way to judge it from that standpoint if you weren’t there. And sometimes old is new…and terrific. Just check out The Blasters who A&A would not get.
@@moniphil The Blasters! They might get them. They enjoyed the Stray Cats when they did them a while back, so maybe they'd like the Blasters too.
@@burmajones803 I was just going by the fact that they didn’t like the old rock n roll style of Paradise By the Dashboard Lights.
The Blasters’ drummer, Bill Bateman, is amazing. Like a human metronome. One of the unheralded greatest drummers of our lifetimes.
@@moniphil I agree, roots and rockabilly made a revival in the 80's. The Blasters are great. Also, NRBQ, Rockpile, Dave Edmunds, Los Lobos, even John Mellencamp (who's never been my favorite, but I am getting more into his music at a later age).
@@susanklasinski1805 Pink Houses and Authority Song are really good. I included Pink Houses in a 1983 poll suggestion on Friday. He had a great drummer too (give the drummers some love!).
RIP Tom Petty...your music is legendary
Tom Petty is iconic. You may not get him, which is fine. But ultimately when you begin to really listen to and get into his catalogue, Tom Petty was who he was from beginning to end. And as you listen to it all, there are just no bad Tom Petty songs. Even his work with Mudcrutch is amazing. The more you listen, the more you understand his band and see some of his live clips online, you will appreciate him even more. In fact, your ears will crave hearing him more and more. Petty snd the Heartbreakers - wow. I recommend “Breakdown” from very early in his career.
Song for song, one of the highest quality songwriters in the genre. And I'm HUGE Dylan fan. Bob had higher highs and lower lows. TP just consistently brought very good songs.
Well said. Not to mention his work with The Willburys.
A Mudcrutch mention? I’m impressed. 🤪
I glued my buttons on my Sirius Xm Radio so it can never be changed from Tom Petty Radio lol.
I agree. No bad Tom Petty songs, just degrees of goodness.
Tom Petty Didn’t care about late in the game, he didn’t care about being popular or contemporary, all he cared about was rocking out! All his albums are like that.
But I am so glad you got to listen to one of his songs. You do a phenomenal job getting into the song, way better than anyone else I’ve ever heard.
You all hit on the fact that Tom Petty sounds like Tom Petty, not that he was late to anything. You should check out Damn the Torpedoes which was the record for him. Refugee or Don't Do Me Like That are great songs.
Exactly what I was thinking
spot on
Damn the Torpedos is my only Tom Petty album...ya actual album....loooove Here comes my girl.
The Damn the Torpedoes tour was my very first concert. 8 or 9 of us crammed into my cousins ‘63 ‘Cuda driving for 3hrs in thick fog to get to the Augusta Civic Center in Maine. The fog was so thick on the way home that we had to put one of us on the hood of the car to point out the yellow line in the road and watch for moose. Tommy Tutone was the opening act. Our seats were on the floor, 8th row back, in front of the stage left speaker stack. I couldn’t hear for 3 days after. 😆 I might still have the threadbare t-shirt hiding around here somewhere.
Late for what I wonder? 😒
There's no denying that Tom and The Heartbreakers had a unique sound, but in terms of this song I think refinement is a better word to use than regression. It's Tom doing it his way, and doing it to the best of his ability. The end result is a terrific song that is a perfect example of the Petty Sound. If you want to hear a couple of songs where Tom stretches the boundaries of that sound a bit, I recommend "You Got Lucky" and "Don't Come Around Here No More."
Absolutely killer tunes, both!
Refinement is absolutely a proper term here. I think this period is where Tom's _progression_ as a musician, and naturally, age, is most evident, where the music evolved from a more youthful and live raw energy (Damn the Torpedoes) into masterful song crafting in the studio (Wildflowers). The best songwriters never stagnate. "Don't Come Around Here No More" is a great example of him getting into studio craft and would be a curious test of A&A's aversion to the 80s sound! Though maybe you need a more chronological TP introduction to fully appreciate it.
Don't Come Around Here No More is my favorite Tom Petty song. You Got Lucky is also good.
Tom's not late to the party, he was writing songs like that since the 70's. Check out some of his older stuff like Refugee.
Tom Petty was not "late to the game"... Full Moon Fever was the antidote needed in 1989 to counter all the banal hairband crap. It was perfect timing by Petty when he released this solid gem of an album. It actually sounded FRESH at the time because of the pabulum that was flooding the airwaves. 1989 was most certainly a transition year for pop music. Who knew Grunge was out there...waiting to pounce.
Late to the game? DUDE... Tom Petty IS the game. Listen to "Damn the Torpedoes" front to back.
Alex: I don't like the 80's overproduction sound ✔️
Also Alex: I love the 70's rock genre ✔️
Somehow Still Alex: I love the sound of Tom Petty bc it sounds like late 70's (and doesn't sound like 80's production) ✔️
Overanalyzing Alex: I am penalizing Petty for not being born a decade earlier 🙄
EDIT: Maybe Petty should get points for his retro-style and helping end the 80's synth sound... 🌝🤒
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Also Alex: Imma sit here and enjoy this like a bobble head with a unibrow
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Alex: You ain't no daisy after all!
To be fair, Andy set up Alex.
Andy: Let me suggest something dumb and see if Alex will bite.
Alex: *chomp, chomp*
TP and the Heartbreakers 1st album was '76. He was not "late to the game". He was "The Game".
The fact that you think this song doesn’t sound like it should exist in the 1980s just proves you don’t know music from the 1980s as well as you think you do. But also, subtracting points based on when something came out is dumb.
That's right! A proper spanking!
You’re correct on that. I think there needs to be some open mindedness from Andy & Alex when listening to ‘80’s music. Going into this era with a bias is going to hinder their reaction.
A&A will listen to all these great songs and musicians 20 years from now and they will still be bouncing thier heads like they are to this song. In other words , you two both love this song. It shows in your reaction.
It's kind of hard to explain time-wise, but Petty was not late to the game with this song. It's his signature sound that he'd had since 1977.
@Susan Klasinski definitely agree!
Agreed. Petty had a great product and he kept delivering it.
But wasn’t this after he changed his sound after the Traveling Wilburys?
@@BuckForearm He always had this roots/power pop/jangle pop (Byrds-esque) sound to him. But this might have been his last album with his signature sound, then he went more Wilburys/Dylan-sounding.
@@susanklasinski1805 yeah it looks like traveling Wilburys was 1988 and this was 1989 and I remember when this album came out it immediately struck me how his voice just sounded more Dylan like. I love that these young kids are reviewing these songs but I wish they had a little more context to discuss.
I think you saying it's like the 70's is a compliment! Tom Petty wasn't late, he was early!
I think people sometimes forget the extent to which a lot of "classic rock" type artists were still putting out big rock radio hits in the late 80s/ early 90s. Like this is the around the same time as Neil Young was putting out "Rockin the Free World" and AC/DC was putting out "Thunderstruck". Also doesn't seem too out of place given that this was around the same time John Cougar Mellancamp was still churning out a lot of hits. And this is only a year after Tom Petty took part in the Folk/Rock supergroup of the Travelling Wilburys.
Petty had great hits in the 90s... Mary Jane's Last Dance, Wildflowers...
Classic Rock was from 1965 through, I think 1980, but classic rock bands still put out amazing tunes. Sorry late 80s babies, Pearl Jam and Nirvana will never be classic rock; the vault closed decades ago.
@@CamiMack5616 I will be 57 this year. Kurt would have been 52. Courtney Love is only 2 months older than me.
Tom Petty is like a great reserved wine....price and timeless!!!
It's not late it's just Tom Petty. The basic style never really changed. And we loved him for it!
Now check out some TP & the heartbreakers. "Refugee". "Breakdown". Petty is probably my favorite live rock act over the years and I've seen just about all of 'em. For sheer energy and party atmosphere from beginning to end. The band is tight AF live. A hit machine for over 25 years. RIP
Totally agree why should when it was written detract or add to a songs ratings!
@@dwaynecarpenter6661 it's great. seen him live three times.. each one better than the other.
I saw him at Jones Beach every time he played there, never a bad show. He was amazing, I miss him.
"breakdown","don't do me like that" are a must ☮️
Tom Petty ….. timeless! He did what he did and made no apologies! Refugee should be another one you look at! One of my faves by him!
This song, like Del Shannon’s “runaway” is a perfect song.
Can we give praise to Heartbreaker Mike Campbell's solo work on this track (even though this was a T.P. solo project)? He was always coming up with the perfect licks for Petty's perfectly crafted rockers.
One of the best song ever to play at the start of a long road trip!
Tom Petty is never late. He arrives precisely when he means to!
Correct!!
LOL at LOTR Gandalph reference!
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Tom Petty is widely underappreciated in my opinion. Tremendous body of work, great band, terrific live as well as in the studio. At his best with driving, kinetic tunes like this. Great call on Mike Campbell's lead guitar too.
It was refreshing to hear this in the late 80's. Grunge was about to explode and Hair Bands had become more and more ridiculous and were experiencing their well-deserved self-destruction. Petty was still Petty!
"Full Moon Fever" was the second CD I ever owned, when they first started to become mainstream. There is a part halfway through the album where Tom's stoner drawl starts to speak..."hello CD listeners. This is the part of the album where those listening to the record or cassette need to turn over the album or cassette to side 2. In consideration of them there will be a brief pause while they do that................thank you, and now here's side 2.". Cracked me up when I heard it, but that was the first time you could actually listen to an album uninterrupted with having to flip over to a second side.
The “reaction” to this song is actually a commentary to their own understandably limited, library of songs they’ve heard, and the order they’ve heard them in. You dont know, what you don’t know. No one does.
Sometimes Andy's suppositions make me cringe.
exactly
Of course I get tired of the reactors that can't find a song they don't like. I don't believe them.
@@clasicradiolover True but to A&A's defense, this community keeps supplying them with quality songs, and somewhere along the way I believe that they may have asked about being given cringe-worthy, bad songs to listen to and rate.
@@jeffreymosher6334 I was actually saying that I feel that these guys are a little critical of some stuff so I tend to give them some slack if it's not something they like. Even if I love it.
This song brought back a '70s vibe when the world desperately needed it. You weren't there for the '80s, so you wouldn't know, and I still like you guys
Steve Winwood also kept me from losing my musical mind in the 80's.
Not late to the game, at all. They got the Rock & Roll train back on track. Was much needed in late 80's.
Tom Petty didn't write a weak song.
In 1989 this was a breath of fresh air from most of the over-produced rock of the time.
Keep listening to this tune. This album FULL MOON FEVER and more...
TOM PETTY's tunes are timeless.
Perhaps I'm biased being that I am a confirmed Neo-Tom Petty fan. LOL
Full Moon Fever is so iconic. Tom Petty and Jeff Lynne, who have dozens of billboard hits between them, just going "Yeah, let's just make a whole fucking album of hit singles"
This should have won both polls hands down
I'll never forgive the Meatloaf people.
... the problem with polls... Average wins.
Tom Petty wasn’t “late”. He was one of the few rockers who stuck to his R&R roots and carried the torch throughout the awful ‘80’s- the absolute worst decade of the classic rock era.
I would call the 80's and beyond, post-classic rock
Bingo!
The 80's were awesome!
@@maryannanderson1744 The 80s had it's moments (thank God for U2) but really can't hold a candle to the previous 2 decades when rock was coming of age. The amount of growth, variation and evolution in the 60s and 70s has not been matched in the rock and roll era. Imo the 80s was saturated with corporate rock, synth pop and big haired Eddie Van Halen clones. Sure, I generalize....a bit😁
@@maryannanderson1744 some of the 80s. Hair Metal is hot garbage water.
Just about anything Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers did from the 70's and early 80's is gold. My personal favorites are 'Breakdown' and 'Woman in Love'.
Tom Petty was Americana,that was his sound from beginning to end !
You got lucky is another good Tom Petty song.
ohhh yeah.
YES!!!!
Tom Petty & The Heartbreaker are among the gods of Rock n' Roll........and they played this song in concert ...OMG!!!! We the audience WENT CRAZY....and they palyed it for like 15 minutes.....one of the lead guitar players was playing that solo at middle and end of the song and he went OFF!!! That solo went on FOREVER!!!!!! Man that was a great concert.....and Tom Petty a total Troubadour bows Elizabethan style after every completion of his songs saying, "Thank you Thank you so much" AAAAAaaaahhhhhh, just excellent!!! Tom....I love you...R.I.P. my Brother!!!!
"Won't Back Down" is another good one by TP.
"You can stand me up at the gates of Hell but I won't back down."
Says it all.
When you see people like Dave Grohl or Axl Rose perform with Tom back in the day, that shows how timeless his music was. Much respect to the man.
Also, that ending guitar solo is one of my favorites of all time (performed by Mike Campbell, Tom's bandmate from the Heartbreakers). So underrated.
Several of my friends and I have had what's called the Tom Petty rule for many years. Anytime you're riding in the car flipping through the radio if a song is a Tom Petty song or you'd consider it as good/better you do not change the station because you will not find anything better.
Come to think of it, I've never changed the station on any TP tune either. Good rule.
TP is American rock...
Songwriter American Hall of Fame.
We old timers keep giving you gold=
"Don't Come Around Here No More" is Tom Petty showing his freaky side. A fair flip-side for this.
The video!!
@@colleenwood8220 🙌 So many of his videos are just *experiences*!
Southern Accents and Damn the Torpedoes, both killer albums.
That is actually Dave Stewart for the Eurythmics that wrote that song, after a strange night spent at Stevie Nick's house, and hearing an argument with the ex-. Don't come around here no more.... Dave was gonna give her the song, but she no-showed. The producer called Tom Petty, and said, get down here, now. Dave Stewart has a great song. Dave sits on the mushroom at the video opening. I love writing/producing from both Dave Stewart and Annie Lennox.
One of my favorite videos of all time.
Wrote like 70's because he started in 70's. Great artist. Need to do more of his.
Just have to say Mike Campbell is one of my favorite “underrated” guitarists.
True! Underrated, and yet respected enough to be hired on by Fleetwood Mac to replace the also underrated Lindsey Buckingham.
@@jeffreymosher6334 also true!
Tom Petty was Tom Petty his whole career. Always played classic rock and roll.
"Me and Del were singin Little Runaway..." That's a reference to the Del Shannon tune Little Runaway.
Around that time Petty was producing a comeback album for Del Shannon so it's a double edged name check.
"Runaway"
Tom & his Telecaster… what a magical combination!
Tom Petty should never have been a runner up but good things come to those who wait, and here we are!!! Today is my birthday and I’m glad you chose this song!!!
Happy Birthday Donna!
Happy Birthday!🎂
Happy Birthday! 🎂🍊
Happy Birthday! (I swear I typed this but it disappeared? - Oh no, I've been matrix-ed!)
Happy Birthday to you! Stay in touch with all your family and friends!! Glad you made it another year, as so many other folks didn't! Don't ever take them for granted as I had to have a double lung transplant last year and my birthday is coming up later this month also! Tom was always one of my favorites!
I grew up in the 70s and 80s and all of Tom Petty songs sound timeless to me.
Technically this is just Tom Petty (No Heartbreakers), but that doesn't really matter. It's a good song.
Basically is the heartbreakers most of them in it
It's still Mike Campbell doing the final solo.
They are late 70s rockers still doing their 70s sound!! That's a GOOD thing.
This album produced by
Jeff Lynne(ELO). How is it no one mentions that? It was also considered a solo,album without The Heartbreakera.
Rick Rubin has said that he was obsessed with the Jeff Lynne production on this album. But when he and Petty worked together on the Wildflowers album, he wanted it to sound completely different.
Let It run Jeff Lynne similar...
But the Heartbreakers still played on it! 😁
When you've been listening to music for over 50 years every song you heard was never late it's always been just at the right moment
I can tell you after living through the music scene in the 80's, I was 19 when this song came out and it was such a welcome relief from so much of what we were enduring on top 40 radio.
They weren't late! They were brave enough to bring back that sound in a decade whose music was a let down when compared to the 70s. RIP Mr Petty.
Tom Petty began recording this album shortly after his work in the Traveling Wilburys. He was heavily influenced by Jeff Lynne in this period
Stevie Nicks said she would of quit Fleetwood, If Tom would have asked he to join the Heartbreakers.....
“Trees flew by, me and Del were singin' little Runaway, I was flyin” - a reference to the 1961 song “Runaway” by Del Shannon. Time to hit some of Tom’s earlier stuff:
“A Woman in Love”
“Breakdown”
“Refugee”
“Don’t Do Me Like That”
“The Waiting”
Yes! All of these. I would also like to add "You Got Lucky" ❤
@@susanklasinski1805 absolutely, yes!
All great songs, but I have a special love for "A Woman in Love"!!!!
@@MissAstorDancer I do, too! It’s unquestionably my favorite TP song. That wailing guitar riff! 🔥🔥🔥
@@allisonreed7682 I know, right! Hot song! I get goosebumps just thinkin' about it!
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Regardless of the music.... one of the coolest humans, EVER!
Points to Tom Petty for staying true to his sound. Check out Refugee or The Waiting for early Petty.
This track, and Bruce Springsteens' "Born in the USA" are the center of Heartland Rock to me, just absolutely fantastic songs about Americana/rock/blues and everything that surrounds it.
You guys crack me up. You just heard one of the best guitar solos ever played. All you can think of is Scooby doo and whether it was made in the 80’s or 70’s.
You guys gave Zappa more respect than TP.
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this...it's like they barely listened.
Nice young boys still figuring it out.
A&A were way off on this one. I agree with you, TheAsiavol!
Who really cares about Tom Petty “running down a dream” ? Love the song. Not even in the top 10 of Tom Petty‘s best. It only picked up traction because of people voting against “Paradise by the Dashboard Lights” which generated some of the best surprise reactions on this channel n my opinion.
I’ll never forget him singing “we won’t back down” on the 9-11 concert aired soon after the attack. Class act
Saw Tom and the guys a few years ago. We knew every song, but this is the one I was waiting for. Love the guitar solo. RIP Tom Petty.
Tom Petty was a rockin sound for those who didnt like where the 80's were going - he took it to the next level in his late career check out 'you don't know how it feels" or 'into the great wide open'
If you are going to react to Tom Petty “American Girl” is a must.
I believe they did that one
@@nightbird1314 they mention doing that reaction in this video, ffs
And they weren't wild about it! *smh* They didn't like his voice, if I remember correctly. *smh* again.
@@burmajones803 that's crazy
@@burmajones803 They need to watch Fast Times at Ridgemont High... they might change their minds!
Tom Petty didnt go back, he just kept doing his 70's thing his whole career.
Another reason to appreciate the gift of Tom Petty: He ignored disco that was raging all around us when he debuted and he resisted selling out or changing his sound throughout the 80's and even into the 90's.
Types of music:
R&B, Gospel, Early Rock, Smooth Pop (early 70's), Disco, Mid Rock to Heavy Metal, Punk, Yacht Rock, Hair Metal, Synth Rock, Grunge.
And then there was Tom Petty (& the Heartbreakers)
Please stop comparing this to Meatloaf. Just... don't.
Meatloaf is nowhere near Petty’s brilliance…wtf?
AMEN!!!
I know right? I can't even listen to Meatloaf! Over dramatic, cheesy Meatloaf!
Right?! I don’t think I have ever made it through a whole song. 😳🤪
Thank you. There is NO comparison. I hear Tom Petty and turn up the volume. I hear Meatloaf and I turn the dial.
The dark horse single that has stood the longest test of time.
Great tune, here, for sure. "You Wreck Me," is another up tempo TP tune that cooks.
Yep, You Wreck Me is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Heart covered it when I saw them in 2010ish. SO GOOD!
Mike Campbell's work on the 30th anniversary concert rendition is great.
Tom Petty deserved alot more credit for his song writing. He was a song machine. The song "Even the Losers" or "The Waiting" are couple of good tunes.
I am going to call for Even the Losers next, because it's a fantastic song, and because of that opening weird discordance, and "It's just the normal noises in here" make a brilliant transition.
Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers did the halftime show of Super Bowl XLII.
Damn The Torpedoes album all day long!
Fantastic album, start to finish. ‘You Tell Me’ and ‘Louisiana Rain’ are my favorites.
I totally agree... still my favorite from him by far!
Mine is Hard Promises and Wildflowers, but I love em all!
The guitar riffs give me chills!
Best Tom Petty song hands down - "Breakdown" 🔥🔥🔥 I give it 3 fires!
Thank you Jeff Lynne (ELO-Traveling Wilburys) for producing, co-writing and playing on TomPetty's fantastic album Full Moon Fever.
frick yeah! been waiting a while, glad to watch this! Recommend Mary Jane's Last Dance, Free Fallin and Learning to Fly next!
All of those are great!
The Waiting is a favorite and a big hit from 1981!
You absolutely need to hold off on Mary Jane's Last Dance bc it really is so great. Tom Petty is one of those artists whose sound is best experienced in chronological order.
Regarding your discussion about when the song was released, this is Petty. He didn't follow musical trends. He did what he did for several decades and you could arguably put any of his songs in any decade and they'll stand up.
Refugee was his huge breakout hit and album Skipping ahead 10 years? Go back to early breakout hit rockers Refugee, Here Comes my Girl, Breakdown live from ‘85, sooooo many great songs, The Waiting
Tom Petty....another artist that is a solid piece of my life .
They talked themselves out of loving this great song. They were right there.... ha ha.
Wtf
Over analysis…🤷🏻♂️🙄😂
They really did.
Alex and Andy "I wish we had music like they had in the 70s
Tom petty puts out a song reminiscent of the 70s
Alex and Andy: to much like the 70s,I give it an A minus
He was in another band called The Traveling Wilburys. You might have heard of the other members…founder George Harrison, Bob Dylan, Roy Orbison, Jeff Lynn and Jim Keltner. They were kind of good. 2 albums.
Been waiting forever to hear you react to Tom Petty. To say I’m highly disappointed would be an understatement.