DIY WELDING OUTLET.....Step By Step Installation By An Electrician
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I'm very disappointed.
Current code requires the use of a GFCI breaker for all outlets in a garage, including 240v. Yes you're using it as a shop, but the space would still be defined as a garage for code purposes. You also made no mention of using a torque wrench/driver for the terminal screws.
Neither of these would've made an appreciable difference in the video length.
@@thomasbonse its very unlikely anyone is going to install a gfci for a welding outlet including myself. They only way would be if its new construction and its getting inspected. It never used to be that way and is totally unnecessary. And ive never used a torque wrench on a residential breaker. In a commercial MDP, yes definitely . I also mentioned to follow all local code requirements. Get real with what your nitpicking my video about. Its residential and you know it was a clean install.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC You are the one presenting yourself as a master electrician on an otherwise instructional video for DIYers. I pointed these specific issues out because there's good safety reasons for both and was part of the reason they made it into recent editions of NFPA 70.
Too many DIYers don't know the relevant codes or even how to find the right information, so end up doing their project unsafely.
I'm not pointing these issues out to nitpick, but rather because some of your audience may have only seen this video before they go off and try it themselves.
@@thomasbonse a “master electrician” is a non union foreman. I would never call myself a “master electrician”. I have been a union electrician for 20 years and been exposed to every aspect of electrical work. The arc fault breakers were a joke and the gfi on a welding outlet is a joke. Its just insurance companies trying to cover there ass. Nothing i presented in this video was unsafe. Are they making people go back and install gfci’s on welding outlets when it wasnt code just a short time ago? Whos enforcing that? If you dont agree with my install you are welcome to make your own video.
@@thomasbonse to be clear, i live in Indiana which has not adopted the new code requirements. Were still operating from the 2008 code. So nothing i did in my video was a code violation. Thats why i said follow your local code requirements If you want to get technical about it. Even if we were i still wouldn’t put it on a gfi.
The deeper the box, the better... words to live by, my friend. Words to live by.
Hah! I guess thats one way to look at it.
My native brother that was funny.... the deeper the box ... lol ... 😂😅
But not wetter "according to electricians"
I love the way you trimmed that wire . Good instruction
Finally, an answer to the neutral wire versus ground wire issue, was thinking of using the neutral wire as a ground, taping the panel end green, I like your solution best. Many thanks. Now to rip out the blue box…..lol
Hah! Glad it was helpful and good luck with your project.
This is the best how-to video on installing a 240 receptacle. Thanks.
Thank you!
It's a banger. I'm ready to go touch my buss bar just for funzies.
Thanks Kyle. I already knew the basics on how to install a welding outlet but it's super helpful to see a pro do it first.
Great job! Enjoyed the video and love your sense of humor. 😂
Thanks man! Definitely one of the best 240v videos on RUclips. You should do a video on 3 phase install.
Love the video! Little bit of humor but full mention of safety which is always required!
I always like to have a good 8 to 10 inches in the box omg this guy is awesome then we slip the mud ring in😂😅😂
Hi, it's super helpful to see a pro do it first.
OUTSTANDING Video! I love the attention to detail. I also enjoyed your NO BS, straight forward and CLEARLY understandable process description.
Thanks !
Thank you! Glad you liked it.
Found your video because I needed a refresher and it was great. Thx man. Liked and Subbed
I'd use a Hobart No Prob..........
I love your sense of humour. Cheers...
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
Very nice video ,thanks!!
Thanks for explaining about the different types of receptacle boxes. Wasn’t sure what to use🤔, now I know.
This was the best how to on this I’ve seen on you tube! You nailed this dude good job!!!
Thanks! I appreciate that. Hope it was helpful for you
Excellent instruction ! I do love your use of the " electrician"s" hammer when securing the lock ring in the panel and your choice of cable cutting tools!! ! Love it! 😁
Thank you!
My brothers i have to stop my girlfriend looking at me crazy ... my friends this guy made my weekend ...
Great information. No BS. I like the detail and pro tips
Great video...especially love the vertical orientation of the plate screws...true pro!
Excellent little job ... I always ran my screws vertical as well ... Thx
The tubing to make the outlet flush was pretty slick.
It works really well. Never had it break down over time. Stays nice and solid.
Great video! I bought a Lincoln Power Mig 210 and need 240V in my garage. Very helpful video!
I feel relieved to know that other people also provide colorful commentary while working! Lol😂
SUPER WELL DONE -- Thanks!
I’m about to build a shop. This channel is about to be so helpful.
Perfect! Congrats on the new shop
Thanks-Great Installation instructions with good tips and techniques for the DIYer. 🤠👀🍻
Thanks
COOP
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I've watched a ton of 220v receptacle installs over the years and this one hands down is the best by far..
Thanks! I appreciate that. I tried to break it down the best i could. Thanks for the comment.
killed it!@@SpicerDesignsLLC
Super helpful, best video out there on the subject.
Good video, step by step and clear instruction. Nothing is ambiguous.
Thank you! Hope it was helpful
Subscribed! Needed this how to video and liked your style. Keep up the solid work.
Thank you!
Great Video, great detail, Funny Humor, Thanks!
Thank you! I appreciate the feedback
Great job Sparky!!
Thanks for this. Ver useful
Absolute perfect video for those of us looking too, add a welding plug to our garage, or to double check the work of our general or subcontractors!
Thank you! Glad it was helpful. Thanks for the comment Chris
Your sense of humor made the video! Just subscribed.
Hah. Thats great! Glad you think im funny, my wife doesnt.
Good Job! Thank You!
I made a cord like that, except mine is 105'. It weighs about 80 lbs, though. It makes work in the yard way easier. Good video.
Great video...I like to use the NEMA L15-30 style in all my welding applications because they make the male and female in a plug setup that is way less bulky for making an extension cord and they are twist lock and hold up so much better than the dryer plugs. Also my shop has 3 phase power so I make sure I always color code my hots so that I can still use the same setup on single phase like off of my gas welders.
Big fan - your videos are very informative. Thanks
Enjoy the comic relief. Thanks
You don’t miss anything! You answered all the questions that I didn’t get on any other video in weeks. Now, just now, I know the way I am going to install my 6-50 and it is going to be correct. Thanks!
Thats great! Glad it was helpful and good luck with your project.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC Thanks for doing what you do! I have one question I can’t find not related to this exactly but maybe you know. The info on my welder says “Insurge amps”: 31A. Is that how many amps it takes before damaging the welder? And will a 30A breaker still be good?
Operating amps is 25A.
@@NomadSaga thats just the inrush current when you start welding. It will spike momentarily and then settle to the operating current. Rule of thumb is to size you overcurrent protection/ breaker at 125% of the full load amps. Id recommend a 40 amp breaker. The manual should spec out the breaker sizing too.
Ok thank you very much I’ll be hooking it up this weekend 👍🏻. I’m really enjoying your content.
Exactly the video I needed
Best 240-volt welding wire install I have seen on RUclips. You explained it well enough for me to understand the Home Depot electrical expert gave me the wrong information. You cannot install 12 gauge wire on a 25 amp breaker. I intended to use 10 gauge but he said not necessary. I subscribed as well.
I appreciate that! Glad it was helpful for you. If you have any questions feel free to ask in the comments or email me.
That's not necessarily true. If you are using NM-B, yes due to the 60C derate 25A requires 10ga wire. But if you use individual THHN in a conduit then 12ga is OK. Per Table 310.15(B)(16).
@@mbrick i would still use 10 awg
@@mbrickhowever code states max of 20A breaker on #12 wire
@@nooneyouknowhere6148 is that only for NM-B or all wire types? could you cite the section so I could read up and learn?
Well done!!!
Good Video! Nice job.
Thankkk you kyle for sharing this very imformative video to us, God bless 🙏
No problem! Hope it was helpful to you. Thanks for watching!
Definitely the best 50 amp video, and I think I watched them all! Most other videos are using the shielded wire as their neutral, and cutting the ground wire short. What do we say to people doing it like that?
Like the trim boards around the panel. Think I’ll borrow that idea. 👍🏼
I didnt do all that but it looks nice.
Great Video!!
good job
great video helped me out installing mine🔥
you are the man
Hah. Thanks. Hope it was helpful
Good video, pretty detailed and good explanations of materials and how it all works together. Not sure if your AHJ requires nail plates for your conductors when run on the face of the stud, but other than that great work dude!
Thanks. It is a temp setup right now. Its a little different set up than a typical studded structure being its a pole barn. Yes you are correct, it would require nail guards.
Easy Peasy 🍕 time baby
I don’t know if you are a good electrician but you sure are funny.
Machine!!!!
You tried a couple times at the beginning but only by the end you succeed, you make laugh.. "see that mom, I did something right". I dont have a welding machine, nor a garage and still find this entertaining and useful! Good job keep at it, you have a sense humor that knows when to get serious and when to joke. Well I don't laughing a lot for anything, so yeah. I enjoyed the clip! 👍
Thanks for the nice comment. I like to have fun on the channel. Some of those DIY videos can be pretty boring. Glad you got a laugh out of it.
Machine gets me every time 😂
You know he's a legit electrician too cuz he uses the plyers to hammer the screw driver and conduit fitting. 😂 I bet his only fear is a broom.
Good eye. But i do keep things clean. My first boss was a real stickler for cleaning up.
Dude is funny. And informative. Subscribed. Sure is comfortable in that hot box. Scary.
Thanks Nathan!
I’m a new electrical DIY… Home Remodel. I’m just doing all the cold work. Electrician friend doing all the hot stuff. At this point my palms sweat when I take the panel cover off! Haha.
@@NathanHarrison7 sounds like you have a smart plan. I have a couple other electrical diy videos with some good tips. Good luck with your project!
Love the channel man, cheers from a fellow Kyle!
Thanks buddy! Cool name btw
Finally, wired correctly. 😎🚧🚧🚧
Damn straight! Hope it was helpful.
The deeper the box the better lol my friend 😂😂
I need to know more about the red black alternation. Not heard that before.
Whats your question Doug?
@@SpicerDesignsLLC is that only for 240v panels?
Because a panel with 120v mixed in will screw that up???
Im not following. You might have to call me on this one. Ill have to unblock you.
I think 20:59 is the reason we all do these jobs lol
Lookin at you work made me want to go get pint of Sandels.
What is a pint of sandels?
Best Beer you can find here in Finland.
@@aatossalmu1655 hopefully that means i did good. Ill have to try to find some of this Sandels.
Thanks for the vid - great for a novice like me. One question, I have seen other vids that use the green ground screw on the back of the outlet for the white wire, and run that to the ground in the box. I noticed you didnt even use the white wire, and you also did not use the green ground screw on the outlet at all. Can you please explain why others would do it the way I explained? Thanks!
The white wire was just a spare conductor. Just had that cable laying around. I did land the bare conductor on the green ground screw on the device in the video. Maybe it was hard to see. I cant remember. Not sure why people are landing the white wire on the ground screw. Thats not typically done.
THANKS! @@SpicerDesignsLLC
Thanks for the great video.
I believe this is a sub panel. Would you use the same wiring on the main panel?
Glad your funny bone was not too much on this one. Well said, I’m not an electrician, you man/explained it great. Can’t say it too many times. HIRE sand electrician, when needed. On another topic, where’s the Keystone girl? Did she fall down in the mud by the pond? Know, is just to dirty for RUclips? Hahaha, really enjoy your content.
Glad you enjoyed it. Shes been running around with the girls. Sometimes its hard to get her in all the videos. She should be in the next one.
Kyle thanks for the showing us on how to install an outlet for electric welding.. I’m planning to install one too. My pro ble is where to buy the outlet as well as the male and female plug couse I’m planning to make an extention cord too.. will you inform me where I can order the things that I need.. more power. Thank you very much..
This was good, I subscribed.
Thank you! Much appreciated
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What should I expect to pay for this job? Ballpark 😎👍
Just depends on your set up. Should take anyone longer than A day to do it. Id say somewhere between $500-$1000
this was a great tutorial, can I replace a extra dryer outlet in garage with a welder outlet
Its likely you can. Dryers are typically 40-50 amp circuits. You can always downsize the breaker on a larger conductor. Then just replace the receptacle to match the welder.
Great video ! My welder requires a single phase110V/220V grounded outlet protected by a 40A@110V/35A@220V circuit breaker. Is it safe to use the same breaker and wire you used or do you recommend something else ? My outlet is going to be installed in the garage about two feet under the panel. Thanks !
this is very helpful however; I am having a hard time grasping why the earth ground is all that 220 needs and 110 uses the common white. I got 220 wire and it has red, black, white, and brass. I was presuming the brass goes to the box as it does with 110, the white would be the common for the two 110/ 220. Now I see the common is not used... I did not connect to the panel yet, I wonder what would have happened if I had connected the white to plug and panel common. Why is 220 so different from 110? Box outlet is ground to same ground as plug... to panel green / earth ground buss. I am having a hard time making sense of this.... but thanks for the video anyway.
It can be confusing to understand the concept. Its a split phase system. The neutral allows you to use half the potential of the voltage available which is the 240 volt. If you hooking up a welder, youll just need two conductors that will land on a two pole breaker and the bare ground will connect to the outlet as well. You only see a 240 volt circuit with a neutral on something like an oven or a dryer. Usually it’s something with some kind of display or control thats operating off 120 volt and doesnt have an internal control power xfmr.
thank you@@SpicerDesignsLLC
Wow quite the perfect job wtg, I was just thinking of wiring a home built shed next to my garage today, I need to run about 35' from the garage to the shed, well I have 6/2WG and a 50' welding cable that is 6awg/4 wire, thinking the best option is the 6/2, best I can come up with is running it across the rafters then I have to drill through the garage into the shed so run it down from rafters through a connecting box and then down to the shed outlet? just subscribed very informative info your making.
Thanks for the sub! Ya just depends what you want to have in your shed. If its just lights and some outlets, all you really need is a 15 or 20 amp circuit with some 12/2 or 14/2. Hopefully the video was helpful. If you have any questions let me know.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC Be putting a millermatic 250 vintage in there along with a 5+ or better hp 80gal compressor for the sandblaster other than that just a small bench drill press and lights, chances are I would only be running these items separately
@@diggindiggenit6540 ahh ok. Ya youll want at least a 60 amp panel in there. You will need a 3 conductor with ground. Two hots, neutral, and ground.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC Okay thanks so much for the info, I have several panels and I found one a subpanel that has two 60amp breakers inside one with a test button on it, I was thinking I would use that in the shop so I could run another 30 amp breaker just for the lights and drill press etc. what I really need is a 200amp service that is for next spring the house is 100 amp and I have 2224 aluminum going 90 foot to my garage and I have one lincoln presision 275 tig that requires 115 amps per manual I have yet to use because lack of amps so I set aside some 1/0 copper for spring but the electric company suggested Not to have the run from the house to garage and just have them run a line to the garage 200amp and have a meter on that, problem is i am against those smart meters and that's all they use these days, I mean if they could keep the meter at the pole and not near the garage I would do it. One of those dang things for me is enough man, when they first put that thing in ringing ears constantly and other issues, i just don't like them. but 200amp service that would really be the ticket for the garage so I could power up it along with the two other work sheds I built around the garage, I will take your advise and go with a subpanel in the shed and just use the 6/4 I have and cap one of the extra lines like you did in this video, thanks for the advice.
Where were you when i was fumbling through installing a three wire 240 volt to connect a generator to my house?
I work at eaton and see this stuff all day 😂😂😂
What is that tubing stuff? I have never seen that before, I usually just cut a wire nut and use that as a spacer.
We us that tubing all the time. They make similar style spacers but i buy big rolls of that stuffs. Works great.
You need a kegerator!
I love how every single video about installing a 240 outlet has a panel in the same room. Lol
I have this direct burial job coming up hooking up a welding plug in a shop 20ft away from main building. Guy has lots of space in his panel. I was thinking of running 240v 30amp from the panel in the main building running 10/2 NMDU direct burial to the shop to a 6-50R receptical. Guy has a metal shipping crate outside his place he uses as welding shop. As far as I could find in the books, I think everything is up to code but I was wondering if I’m missing anything. And if I should use a gfci breaker or regular one should be okay. I’d appreciate any insight you could provide.
Awesome! New sub for that! 👍I need to run this receptacle 185' away from my main box. Does this video apply to my needs? I have 30 amp welder out in my shed/shop. I got 40amp dual breaker and a 6-50r, #8 conductors with #10 ground.. Thank you
Glad to have you! You should be good with that setup. You can use a voltage drop formula too if your concerned. You should be fine with that as long as you bump the wire size up to the next gauge.
nice to watch a pro do pro sh!t. 👍
Finally someone who give a s**t about the screw facing the same direction. That alone got a subscribe from me. Oh yeah and a like also.
Thanks! I appreciate it.
I would have put a metal plate over the Romex where it passes "through" the wall to prevent a screw or drill from hitting it should someone not realize it's there. Otherwise, great install!
I hear ya. Its temporary in my case and ill be the only one doing any work in there. But yes, nail guards are a must with romex
Nicky done let’s see if I can avoid my 1 👨🏻🚒job n weld 😂😂😂 I don’t like electricity it hurts when you get bit.
Hell ya it hurts.
Great video shows exactly what the f#@! To do
Hah! Well put
Great video just subscribed. I have a random question what is the max draw of your Hobart welder at it's highest setting?
Im not sure. I can tell you ive never tripped it on a 30 amp breaker. Thats what the manual specs too for the breaker sizing.
Do you have a video on making that extension cord?
I don’t unfortunately. I made that a while back before i was doing youtube.
Love the “Meat” comments.
Hi Kyle! Great video! Curious if I need to run the outlet about 50 ft from the box will I still be ok with 8 gauge wire or do I need to size up?
Thanks!
Yes you will be fine with 8 awg wire on a 30-40 amp breaker. 50’ will have minimal voltage drop.
can you explain the meaning of the codes on the face plate! you could make a video about it!
Is there something specific you asking about the faceplate? Im not sure what your asking.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC oh the sticker that shows on the thumbnails.. I think i refers to the panel box ( cir 13...)
@@dcgo44r ohh. Thats just the circuit number of that welding outlet. I always label them in addition to the panel schedule. I like to do that when i do service work too. Most of the time the panels arent labeled well so it makes it easy for someone to find that circuit.
Awesome, well done with explanation, parts involved, camera & audio. Enjoyed the ending, did mom get the ,message? Thanks for sharing.
Grandson took his pretest for acceptance into the apprentice ship i& was told he scored above average so here's hope for next fall Damn ... five years, didn't it used to be two? I mean isn't five years the new marriage licensing? I really want to see the look on his face if he's asked to go get the wire stretcher.
Sounds like hes on the right track. Theres definitely a need for more electricians. The five years flies by. Especially when you get a pay raise every 1000 hrs.
Thanks for the great video.
I believe this is a sub panel. Would you use the same wiring on the main panel? I have a separate ground and neutral bar. (the neutral bar is grounded)…
The main panel is typically your first means of disconnect which is where your neutral and ground are bonded. You can do the same install for the outlet in your main or a sub.
Thank you so much. Happy Easter.
bad ass
I figure if I do it myself just for peace of mind I’ll get it inspected
I wouldnt put a whole lot of trust into inspectors. Most of the time theyre just looking to get money from a permit. Shouldnt be that way but most of the time, thats the case. But yes, getting it inspected or even paying an electrician to look over it is a good idea.
I’m doing this same short distance run inside my garage on a sub panel using 6/3 romex inside 3/4” flex plastic conduit on a 50 amp breaker circuit but my friend (who has wired his own garage years ago and welds alot ) is telling me I need to use the white conductor as the ground on my 6-50 outlet and use the bare copper wire of the romex only as a ground to my outlet box. Thoughts?
You only need one ground. Just use the bare copper for your ground. Your actually not supposed to have parallel grounds like that. You should connect it just as i did in the video.
@@SpicerDesignsLLC okay 👌 thanks!