I just don't like how Cai Bing justifies her mistake by saying that she can't focus because she has to take care of the other members. I mean, like Doah said, she didn't even make the whole choreography like Dayeon did, so it shouldn't be an excuse. Even Dayeon can still do her part well even though she has to constantly teach the other members. Anyway, congrats to Salute, they nailed it!
Honestly Ice Cream deserved to win, Salute did well but the atmosphere was so tense it almost felt like another The Eve, meanwhile Ice Cream had such a good environment and attitude and it showed in the final performance I was really rooting for Ice Cream team but Salute won by a little in the end 😭
Evil edited or not, Cai Bing claimed that she choreographed the dance herself without crediting the other members. She refused to give the center part despite making constant mistakes. She also did not lead her team well and made everyone very tense. Frankly, I’m glad Doah spoke out about it because Cai Bing really rubbed me off the wrong way because her skills don’t match her overconfidence. However, I do think the language barrier also played a big role to the team’s conflict.
I think everyone could have raised their hand but nobody did. So she did afterwards uhm... yeah but it's correct that DoAh said it afterwards. I just feel like we all jump into conclusions without knowing what happened exactly. The same thing also happened with i-land and other survival shows.
But it does seem like she listened to her team. When I watched the perf, everybody got their own killing part. And yoon jia seemed to have the most center time.
She must’ve thought that the members would speak for themselves and tell the masters they involved in the choreography too she isn’t fluent at Korean and the fact that she’s taking the leadership also is very overwhelming so making her anger bursted out ITS UNDERSTANDABLE SO LETS NOT BE CHLIDISH AND MAKE AN ISSUE FOR UNNECESSARY REASONS… who knows mnet might’ve evil edited her too 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
we don’t even know if her raising her hand was actually to the question they showed. And tbh I don’t even know which part is the killing part after watching the performance, I think every members got a nice part to play with, the killing part wasn’t so outstanding anyways
@@odeliamili7129 she did it to herself. She is self-obsessed. She wants yo be in center and she didn't want to listen to other's girls opinion. Not evil editing, it's just rude and self-centered
@@odeliamili7129 Lol what? Brainlessly? Dont defend her. She literally discredited doah risako and jia. And Doah is straight forward so her crying wont put her into sympathy. I DO NOT THINK SHE GOT EVIL EDITED. Most of them was frustrated bc how unfair she is to her teammates.
@@odeliamili7129 you can't evil edit that she literally said she is the leader so she can do whatever she wants and that she told her teammates to stop voicing their opinions.
They start to evil edit cai bing now o no :( . also i think cai bing sometimes doesnt understand korean 100% so that also puts her in difficult situations
حقا حقا هناك الكثير من المتدربين الكوريين الجيدين ويستحقون الترسيم لذا الاصوات متشتتة على العكس عند الصينين واليابانيين ايها الكوريين ارجوكم فقط صوتو للكوريين لا تصوتو للصينين او اليابانيين نريد ان نرى مواهب ليس فقط وجوه
@appa is an airbender cai bing refused to give up the killing part after she messed up in the interim check, and told everyone she was the leader and no one should voice opinions against her
Sorry, but it’s clear that Cai Bing needs a reality check, like she got the killing part and then tries to abuse her power as a leader, but she’s the one in the team who messes up??? It makes no sense, at least admit to your mistakes and work together as a TEAM. Just cause multiple people choreographed doesn’t mean they all worked well as a team, Ice Cream had one main choreographer but they still worked as a team way better. I hope Cai Bing learns from this cause it will actually help her if she wants to debut in a team. The best kpop groups are the ones with chemistry, not the ones who make a competition with their members.
Cai bing is my first pick, but i really was shocked with her leadership here the whole segment really had a tense atmosphere, not everyone is suited to be a leader and it’s clear Cai Bing isn’t suited with being a leader, hope she can learn from this and improve !
@@00_png10 Yea me too, I know deep down she isn't a bad person, I guess its tense cause everyone is desperate to stand out, but I just hope she understands that teamwork is the best option, especially in a show made to create a group itself.
You really need someone like Kim Doah in every group, she's honest & not afraid to speak up her mind. The leader main job is to LEAD the team, you're supposed to listen & considering each of members opinion, not dismissing them and Caibing failed at that. They should've choose Kim Doah as the leader tbh. And from this episode I respect Kim Dayeon even more, she choreographed the dance alone, giving each members their own killing part, slayed her own part & creating comfortable environment in her team
Yeah KIM DAYEON was the best in this round since she did everything by herself despite young age she knows how to handle a big team... while CAI BING is reasoning the lack of TIME to practice like she said in HYLT era... while the reality is 4 members helped to choreo the performance... KIM DAYEON REALLY GOT MY RESPECT AND VOTE, I won't VOTE for CAIN BING ANYMORE.
@@solosolo1945 I was dissapointed by Caibing this episode because she clearly disrespected her members by discrediting them & refused to listen to their opinion. Fortunately the performance went well
@@caffeinated4901 wdym went greedy when in fact it's her right as she's the killing part? she could've made choreography when she's in the center all the time but she didn't, i don't know why she's getting all the hate when she just doing her job
This isnt evil editing… if it was….the other members wouldn’t also be having a problem with how she’s acting. She tried to take credit for all of the choreography, ignored the masters advice, cried so she can keep her part, then just flat out stopped being a leader and became a dictator. This is very disappointing…. I feel bad for Doah. She should’ve been on another team and deserves better.
Also, mnet’s evil editing is very effective… if they really wanted to do that to her, they would’ve done it already and got her eliminated like they did with You Dayeon… So this girl really dug her own hole.
Right? Like when pretty u team were asked to reconsider centers, the leader easily had a discussion with her team and gave up the center position to keep harmony. And that leader/trainee was 10 years younger than bing
@@FarinazNI I honestly don't think it is harder. It looks "harder" cuz it's a different concept whereas people would straight up classify Ice Cream as being "cute" despite a huge variety of moves involved (the choreography towards the end of Ice Cream is extremely physically demanding). For me, Salute was safe and seen-that-before. It doesn't excite me as much as Ice Cream even tho I'm such a fan of Little Mix xD But i freaking love Doah and Risako so anything for them to earn the extra points haha.
@@normypienguyen yeah. i think so too. and these programs are all about building the perfect group. Ice cream team looked like an already debuted group. they had such great chemistry between the members. Dayeon was the perfect leader. they lost by 0.33 points. such a shame.
trans: hyerim: we voted for caibing for killing part because we thought she looks the best for it, but i think giving it to the main dancer (jia) would be a bit better. caibing: it’s because i’ve been always taking care of everyone’s parts and distributing them so i’ve never thought of what i’m missing out in doah: the masters suggested that we should change the killing part but caibing said that she had no time (to polish her mistakes). i’m speechless, because it’s not like she choreographed the entire dance like dayeon. that’s not the case for her. caibing: for my killing part i don’t have to do it perfectly, it just has to catch people’s attention. i’m not saying that i should be the killing part but everybody dances really well. everyone dances well so everyone has the killing part. when everyone dances, you all stand out really well. risako: caibing is very opinionated. we’re giving opinions, but she doesn’t want to listen. i wanted jia to have the killing part but i couldn’t say it. (why?) because she started crying. caibing: because i want everyone to do well. (chiayi translates what she said to them) 1:52 doah: they’re doing it together? risako: two people? caibing: yes two people! luofei: we don’t have to dance with two people (settles on luofei’s solo) chiayi: (explains to caibing in chinese) we thought luofei would be dancing solo (in this part) 2:24 luofei: but… now hyerim: luofei should do it solo so that it’s less confusing for us caibing: i’m the leader i think whatever i say, it counts. just stop stopping (the practice)! just continue. stop giving opinions already! doah and hana talks about he attitude and their negative opinion about it
A little reminder, despite the stellar praises Sunmi gave towards CaiBing in the very first performance, she was actually ranked 28 in c-group. That makes me realized of why she's VERY unstable in her performances.
I once watch her fancam for theme song o.o.o, she looks stiff and out of tempo. Then in hylt performance and now salute, she always makes mistakes. People just vote her because of her cat eyes i guess.
@@n0tsoinsane Yeah agreed. People just voting her coz she has the similar eye look with yeji from itzy. Other than that she needs a lot of improvement in comparison to other trainees here who is doing great.
Which it's weird considering she said to have experience creating Choreographies and stuff, I mean if you have that experience how come you tent to be a little late or earlier than the others?
Im a mandarin speaker and i can say there's no mistranslation. In fact what she said in some parts is more harsh than the actual translation. For example lthe last part where team salute won she actually said something that is quite inappropriate and the translation translate her words in a more calm tone.
That line was the most shocked line from all produce series that I watched. Usually leader always getting a burden, try to make the team better, or having lot of mind bcs they feel they are not good enough as a leader. But this one hmm.
@@cb6899 its not extremely inaccurate. I feel like i could translate the words more accurately, but I think they used their word choice to fit the situation better. Very disappointed but ultimately they meant the same thing
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At first I thought Cai Bing was just being evil edited, but damn her attitude really baffled me throughout the whole episode. From taking the credit for making the whole choreo and telling her teammates to not give their opinions...it's all inexcusable. She wasn't a good leader.
@@cb6899 there were also some chinese users who said that the translation was correct though...but regardless, the whole team clearly had problems with her so I don't think this is an evil edit.
@@NisaK_BTSVT they were looking at eachother bc they didn’t know who to credit, it was quite clear that they were about to raise their hands until cai spoke up.
The others spent a whole 10 seconds staring at each other and not answering the damn question but suddenly their tongue were loose after Cai Bing raised her hand... Yeah right, she is the problem 🙄
Their team reminds me of The Eve's team, but this is more frustrating, atleast in The Eve, they were able to fix their problem immediately after the interim but this team, I noticed that Cai Bing would push her opinion every time the members would speak up, that essentially gave them a hard time
It’s not the same at all , in this team Cai Bing wants to take credit for everything and is manipulating her teammates to let her be center by crying like a baby!
yes the eve fixed their problem very quickly and they were all good and amicable about it. watch behind the scenes you'll see how they had a good relationship. caibing is just offputting at this point man like i hope people stop voting for her
@@XXxxEllyxx what I I meant about the similarity between these two teams is the conflicts internally , not necessarily the reason and what happened because they're completely different in terms of that
Cai Bing is opinionated and stubborn person you can see that she don't listen to the opinion of other people. I find her so greedy when she take all the credits for the choreography and manipulative when she cried when the team wants to consider changing the center.
@@XXxxEllyxx yah she should cry like a baby because she took the killing part but I can’t see any killing part for her in that dance others are shining except for her so at least she took the center part ☺️
@@emmalovegrove77 i hope jia gets the planet pass i really think she deserves it and def arai getting it for jgroup since she only got screentime this ep 😭😭
I came here from their perf video. Tbh, if not for the 'names' they put on the bottom left when the girls are singing their part, I'll completely think Jia got the center position. Her stage presence was overflowing.
@@bym0ni if you watch the ep when they pick the one who gonna be the killingpart, you will see that cai bing being ambitious and force her opinions so they let her take the center
Clearly, this is not MNET's evil editing rather, this is her true personality. I voted her everyday, this disappoints me but I'm hoping for the best. My opinion, my problem.
The voting ends in less than ten hours so this will probably not affect her in this elimination. But probably in the next one it will. I voted for her but I don’t want someone with bad attitude in the top 9. She made many mistakes too…
I agree :/ even though yaning lead "The Eve" and there were conflicts in the group, at least she tried her best to fix it and discuss with the members after the judges corrected them
At least the eve team was able to fix their problems after the interim check. While Caibing literally pushed the other members opinion and didn't want to give up her centre position💀 Chile I thought fyn was the worst but we have a way worse candidate
If you are aware, actually Caibing's selfish nature has been seen since last week when he wanted to get a leader and center position. Hyerim and Jia tried that time but Caibing didn't seem to care. a leader must be able to protect his members well, not even drop his members with pressure from the chairman
this is a competition. if u want to be a leader, u have to prove u are worthy. caibing did that and her team voted for her ON THEIR OWN ACCORD. only after did all of them realise that caibing is not ready to be a leader. only this way can she learn her weaknesses and strengths.
in the end, caibing did listen to her team, she gave up so many of her parts u can barely see her in the final performance. and dont even get me started on ‘she only did it after her members and masters told her to’ well then HOW ELSE IS SHE SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHERE SHE WENT WRONG? only with interim checks and members suggestions can she know which parts to give up, and she only wanted to keep like one or two parts. is that too much to ask for? literally all the members shined, stop saying that shes selfish
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This is not mnet’s evil editing anymore. It’s so clear that she’s so selfish and does not care about her team but herself. “I’m the leader. Don’t voice out your opinions anymore” REALLY?!!
@@selina_kt-1343 what’s the correct translation then lol even if it’s inaccurate she said something along that line right? Look at the other girl’s reaction
@@selina_kt-1343 but it really is : For everyone saying it’s a mistranslation: “no one can defend this and say it’s a mistranslation, i’m a chinese speaker and she really did say that loud and clear. to be more accurate, after she said “shes leader” in korean, she carried on saying “我觉得我说的最算” which means “i think my words weigh the most” and then she says “actually let’s not stop anymore, carry on, don’t voice your opinions anymore”. word for word: 我觉得我做的可以/最算了>we can js take my words/my words weigh the most (she says it abit fast but its ard the same meaning) 其实不要在停了,继续,赶紧继续吧>don't stop any more continue, let's quickly continue 不要在提出任何意见了>don't bring up any opinions anym” From @ilywg on twitter
@@selina_kt-1343 Which part of the translation is not accurate? As I could understand Chinese and Korean, I think the translation is most accurate in this video.
@@selina_kt-1343 I mean from what I’ve tried to translate myself she said “im leader, I think what i say goes, just stop stopping and keep going now, just stop voicing out any other opinions”. I mean I have nothing much against Cai Bing and this, yes could be completely edited or scripted, or could be the complete truth, but this just what I heard word for word in chinese and then translated into english.
“Stop giving opinions already” “I’m the leader, I think whatever I say is done” Tbh I don’t think this is Msnake’s evil editing… For me an example of evil editing is Fu Yaning’s “We go up, but you don’t”. She stopped/paused after saying “we go up” but the planet masters kept encouraging her. The planet masters also complemented her afterwards. But this Caibing situation, she took credit for the dance, gaslights other members and her leader role felt more like a dictatorship. I really hope she changes this attitude because there are a lot of people supporting her.
First of all the others could have told as well. But they did not raise their hands. We also don't know for what she (cai bing) raised her hand for real. We also do not know what happened before and after this !!!3 MINUTE!!! scene Also it's very sus that only doah gets to have a single interview? Like why do you not let cai bing speak? I don't believe anything that mnet cuts and makes you believe. Open your eyes
@@NisaK_BTSVT I would want to agree with you, but what cai bing said like taking all the credit for choreographing the song and saying she's the leader and she can do anything she wants is not how a good leader is supposed to be. The other girls didn't raise their hands because they were probably shocked that Cai Bing took all the credit. If Cai Bing was a good leader, she should have given some credit to the other girls. Am I wrong? At least DoAh spoke up about it.
@@NisaK_BTSVT How can you blame the other members when Cai Bing was behaving like that?! of course they were shocked and intimidated. Cai Bing was so authoritarian.
Caibing is still lacking but her attitude is just wow. No wonder she wasnt in my pick from the very beginning,maybe its because i sense smtng?lol Rather have hsin wei in the line up
The whole cell thing is over? After this, I don't want Yujin to be dragged because of Cai Bing. Cai Bing was so wrong, she wanted to take all the credits of the choreo, she didn't practiced as hard as the other members, and she even said that she didn't wanted to keep hearing opinions of the members about the center role because "I'M tHe LeAdeR, aNd sToP saYiNg yOur oPinIons" Tbh she didn't even standed out in the performance, JiA made it so good even if she wasn't the center. I hope that Cai Bing enjoyed her time in the Top9, because i ain't voting for her anymore
Same, i will not vote for her anymore I might change it to Ya Ning now I feel bad for Jia for not having the killing part.. but still she nailed the whole performance even she doesn't have the killing part. Sorry for my bad english
i kinda sus with mnet editing with that scene. we know that cai bing is not good at Korean, and when the mentor asked who made the choreo, luo fei hand movement was pointed toward cai bing and then cai bing raised her hand, idk if there was some misunderstood so mnet could edited in certain way they wanted to be. gosh i have a huge trust issue with mnet
With fu yaning you could tell it was evil edited from the way she acts in other episodes and also the way she acts while watching others perform but I have always gotten a bad feeling bout cai bing
@@odeliamili7129 For everyone saying it’s a mistranslation: “no one can defend this and say it’s a mistranslation, i’m a chinese speaker and she really did say that loud and clear. to be more accurate, after she said “shes leader” in korean, she carried on saying “我觉得我说的最算” which means “i think my words weigh the most” and then she says “actually let’s not stop anymore, carry on, don’t voice your opinions anymore”. word for word: 我觉得我做的可以/最算了>we can js take my words/my words weigh the most (she says it abit fast but its ard the same meaning) 其实不要在停了,继续,赶紧继续吧>don't stop any more continue, let's quickly continue 不要在提出任何意见了>don't bring up any opinions anym” From @ilywg on twitter
@@odeliamili7129 stop turning a blind eye when you dont even speak Chinese. You're not even sure if the people who said that it was a mistranslation were even telling the truth.
차이빙의 중국말이 해석이 잘못 되었든 제대로 되었든..차이빙은 그냥 리더로써 하면 안되는 행동만 한겁니다..혼자 다했다능~리더 말을 따라 행동 해라든..시간이 없어서 못했다는듯..다 핑계일 뿐입니다..그리고 마지막..울어서 넘기는 행동들 다 잘 못된 리더의 행동이라고 생각합니다.그리고 아이스크림과 근소한 차이로 이겼는데..그런 점수를 받은거 자체가 차이빙이 잘 하지못했다는겁니다..본인의 순위등 멤버들은 더 좋았습니다..그런데 1점도 안되는 차이로 이긴거는 부끄러운 것입니다.. 차이빙은 누군가와 같이 그룹으로 있으면 안된다는걸 느꼈습니다..
The choreography is simply better and one member didn't abuse center, imo there was too much Dayeon in ice cream performance but in this one , every member shined
@poochiepussay Honestly I think the opposite. Cai Bing received so. many. negative edits in this episode that I was half-convinced MNet doesn't want her in the final group. Honestly, since HYLT even. Some of it was deserved, especially here with the Doah scenes (I fully believe that frustration was genuine), but even in winning, Cai Bing STILL received an evil edit.
@@aldrerosario220 At first I thought they will choose Hyerim as leader. Because she lead Yes or Yes team to be the best team on previous mission and able to perform at mcount. They have some problem at first, but they solved it quickly because Chaehyun always trying to take care everyone and Hyerim always respect every opinion. But here they didn't choose her.
@@shinesoshi8197 she didn't, Cai Bing's killing part was just not as appealing as Jia's whole performance, Cai Bing stated on the rehearsal that she will "do her best to lead and nail her killing part" if you watched the whole episode
@@hanchijihi6626 yes i watched the whole performance but i think im missing this. and back then when i watch their performance its like jia got the killing part so im confused. thanks for clarify this
아니 좀 의견 차이 있을 수도 있지 항미 신장 지지도 안한 몇 안되는 클린 멤을 이렇게 방출 시킴 진짜 피디픽 너무 투명했다 그리고 '내가 리더니까 내 말만 들어!'가 아니라 '나는 내 의견이 타당하다고 생각해' 인데 번역 진짜 거지 같이 하네 그럴거면 차라리 아침 드라마 작가나 하세요 자극적이게 소설 잘 쓰네 푸야닝은 차피 나도 별로 안좋아했지만 푸야닝으로 자극적인 그림 만들겠다고 가만히 잘하던 우리 언니 동료가 뭘하고 있든 혼자 묵묵히 잘하는 최연장자 포지션으로 만들어 주더니 개욕먹던 푸야닝 갱생 시키고 그림 더 뽑을거 없나 프로 심심하지니까 바로 황씽치아오랑 같이 나락 보낸게 존나 웃김 항미 신장 지지 안했고 점점 잘하고 인기 많아지는데 피디픽 아니니까 바로 악편 때리고 이게 조작이랑 뭐가 달라요
doah being very honest since pd48 by calling oit mnet for not giving her screentime yet her placing high is one of the reasons shes been my pick since 2018 so im very happy doah is a big help for the team since most of them dont want to speak against cai bing
i kinda sus with mnet editing with that scene. we know that cai bing is not good at Korean, and when the mentor asked who made the choreo, luo fei hand movement was pointed toward cai bing and then cai bing raised her hand, idk if there was some misunderstood so mnet could edited in certain way they wanted to be. gosh i have a huge trust issue with mnet
@@notevenlori did u saw chiayi translated for her when sunmi asked? Bcs all I saw is they just stare at each other. Thats why Im questioning with this situation, also with luo fei hand movement. When I was in 6th grade, we had a group project and teacher praised our team. Then he called my name bcs it was wrote at the first top (we arranged by alphabet, i was the only one starts with an A). I stand from my chair, and he gave the paper back to me. The rest of my group didn't like it and thought I was claimed it. I could imagine mnet could edited me in a certain way they want in this scenario 😂 thats why I sus so much about that scene. I had a trauma about that kind of misunderstood
Cai Bing performed POORLY this episode, as a dancer AND a leader. She was not tolerant to their ideas, she manipulated the members by crying and she gave excuses for her mistakes. Most importantly she tried to take all the credit for the choreo?? In the Salute dry rehearsal she was the only member that got criticized by the judges. her shortcomings are becoming a pattern and her attitude is looking even worse. Dayeon is taking that top 9 spot for sure😂Props to Doah for rightfully telling the TRUTH. Edit: Am I the only person that thinks the final result was BS?👀 Ice-Cream team should have won
About the final results, I'm not mad because Jia, Hyerim, Doah, Chiayi and Luofei did excellent imo and they really put the perf on par with Ice Cream, but it was quite odd to me that Ice Cream didn't win. Idk all the masters seemed to be far more satisfied with it, and it definitely displayed better teamwork and charm. But hey maybe it's a technical dance thing and idk anything about that
I think they let salute team win so we will vote for ice cream members from now on hehehe ;))) Kim Dayeon ftw even if they ddnt win, I bet most of their members got boosted votes when the ice cream video came out. And Dayeon will most likely get planet pass if shes out in top 8 for k group. but i also love ji ah, do ah, risako and hyerim from salute. The rest gomene.
@@parsachoudhury6727 Their score different was about 0.33 point. I believe the master think both of them are really good. So yeah, maybe it was some dance technique or anything.
I get why planet master make salute team win.Both team really did well and honestly I want ice cream team to win.But , i will also choose salute team to win as for me the distribution of each member more fairer than ice cream team.
What if theres no chaehyun in yes or yes team? U know i could make an edit and frame hyerim as if she did not listen to her members and make j-line cried. In a group project sometime theres a problem or misunderstanding, and mnet could use this as chance to make a drama, even changed the narrative to a certain way they want. Be grateful that what happened in yes or yes team was to framed and highlighted chaehyun kindness
I'm a Caibing fan but even this is evil edit or not, the members look stressful and unhappy, a good leader will never do that. Poor Jia, respect for Do Ah.
Cai Bing is very talented but she really disappointed me today, the way she leads her groupmates and listens to their opinions clearly wasn’t professional. I’m pretty sure this wasn’t evil editing because even Kim Doah and the other members was frustrated with her attitude.
Wait a minute, is she that talented? Nope, there are other girls who are way more talented than her. For this case she just has a pretty privilege and a good gaze, thats it
Yeah KIM DAYEON was the best in this round since she did everything by herself despite young age she knows how to handle a big team... while CAI BING is reasoning the lack of TIME to practice like she said in HYLT era... while the reality is 4 members helped to choreo the performance... KIM DAYEON REALLY GOT MY RESPECT AND VOTE, I won't VOTE for CAI BING ANYMORE.
Cai Bing is really pissing me off, she won't let her team to voice out their opinions and when the masters criticize her mistakes, she put the blame to her teammates that she lacks individual practice🙄🙄🙄🙄 bye Cai Bing, next elimination will surely be you
It makes me feel good that I didn't vote to Cai Bing 😅😅 there are many talented Chinese trainees which makes me hard to choose but it's a relief that I gave it to deserving girls. Fighting Girls!!
I'm not saying caibing is innocent or guilty.theres a language barrier so there's possiblity that mnet mistranslated what she said to Others. so don't spread hate to Cai bing just like fyn Because we didn't know what happened behind the Cam.. Remember they mnet made fyn dirty..So don't spread hate if you didn't know what happened behind the cam (just reminder before you hate)
fyi , caibing also made mistakes like this in hylt ( she wanted the killing part eagerly that time too ) but she ended up not doing well ! caibing is overconfident and arrogant ; the people who are saying its mnets evil editing ! no bro it's not ; the members were baffled and doah spoke up when caibing said she choreographed the whole song ! - I don't want to see caibing in the top 27 because being an idol doesn't require talent but also good personality and I don't get good vibes from her !
It’s sad this happened now because people already voted for her but maybe her rank will drop not the next elimination but after that because the vote is about to close Also she got 30,000 benefits So maybe in the third round of elimination her rank will drop because of this I see some people said I want my cai bing vote back lol
Except in the HYLT missions she realize that she was wrong. I think after being announced as one of the top 9 she got really cocky. I’m really disappointed in her rn because I really did not expect this from her.
I only voted her because she was yujin's cell. And she seems okay on HYLT. But now, just because she's the only one wearing the purple uniform in Salute team, she thinks she can do whatever she wants 👎 I'm not going to vote for her anymore
i kinda sus with mnet editing with that scene. we know that cai bing is not good at Korean, and when the mentor asked who made the choreo, luo fei hand movement was pointed toward cai bing and then cai bing raised her hand, idk if there was some misunderstood so mnet could edited in certain way they wanted to be. gosh i have a huge trust issue with mnet
Cai bing's my top 1 pick in cgroup and I also believe in mnet evil editing, buttt what she just did can't be blamed to mnet because she said those words herself, tbh I'm a little disappointed, I really like her alongside Yujin but........ I'm not sure anymore
You could tell that Doah is a great listener. Ever since PD48, She's very observant esp when things gets serious at times like this. She knows the right thing to do for the team (she speaked up not just for herself) and speaks her mind truthfully with wise words and calm manner.
I am Chinese I think Caibing’s words are so rude and she didn’t respect her teammates BTW Chiayi is so nice. She’s fluent in Korean and she help C group’s members.
Even though I was rooting for Team Ice Cream, I cant deny that this team’s performance was outstanding. It’s unfortunate that we had to see Cai Bing’s true colors but I’m glad members like Hyerim and Doah voiced out their opinions and won the benefit which they really needed.
To all the cai bing stans in the comment who are defending her, stop making excuses. I have nothing against cai bing but this clearly isn't evil editing. If it was, the other members wouldn't have looked so clearly irritated and fed up, Doah also wouldn't have voiced out her opinion with such frustration as well. Cai bing can't be excused from this, she has made many mistakes like rapping off beat, dancing too fast or too slow which the fandom and myself too have excused since of course, everyone makes mistakes. Not only has she made mistakes during salute's interim check, she refused to hear out her team, cried and manipulated them to stay as the main focus of the team and silenced them. It also isn't a mistranslation. I am chinese and I can confirm what she said was completely accurate with the translation. Many chinese fans have also confirmed this. She also tried to take all the credit from the other choreographers and told the judges as if she was the only one who came up with the whole dance. The judges would've believed her if it wasn't for the members telling the judge that it was a team effort. Also, she tried to steal the killing part and make it more complicated despite the majority of the team agreeing that Ji A should do it. She tried to negotiate with Ji A so she could still be the main focus and forced the team to proceed with practice and stop voicing out their opinions. I really don't want this to sound harsh, but Cai Bing cannot debut if she clearly does not have intention of working with a team and demanding all the credit/attention to herself and only her.
i kinda sus with mnet editing with that scene. we know that cai bing is not good at Korean, and when the mentor asked who made the choreo, luo fei hand movement was pointed toward cai bing and then cai bing raised her hand, idk if there was some misunderstood so mnet could edited in certain way they wanted to be. gosh i have a huge trust issue with mnet
@@Ann-vp4kd I don't think that is just the problem here. She's clearly overconfident of herself and makes a lot mistakes on stage since the first challenge. Even the masters are asking if she has improved but I don't think so either. Plus Chinese fluent peeps here claims that her words are really not that good and you can even see the frustration of her teammates. Evil edited or not, there's still a lot of DESERVING C-group trainees other than her.
@@yochikun5355 and your reply doesn't really answer my topic i was talking about. I was talking that one scene, when she raised her hand as if she claimed the choreo. There was a hole where mnet could twist it just to lead people opinion. Imagine if someone (just called it XX) is a k1ll3r and all XX done is k1ll. But then getting accuse like stealing or other evil stuff, and everyone believes it right away. One bad thing doesn't justify other bad thing is 100% true. And about the other case, those word "im the leader" and translation thing. I cannot speak about it bcs I cant speak chinese. But yes I am disappointed about that.
I can see why the tears can be read as manipulative, but Cai Bing could’ve also been crying due to frustration. (Idk, just playing devil’s advocate lol. What she did was wrong either way.)
I don’t think this is evil edited any longer. She literally said thaaaaat- surely this kind of attitude isn’t acceptable to debut. Being a performer doesn’t mean you only have to be pretty and talented, you must know how to respect as well. Ego-centrism is probably inside of her rn.
im not sure why there's so many "Mandarin speakers" in the comment saying she said stuff she literally didn't. I'm not a Cai Bing fan so I have no stakes here, I only watched this because a friend asked me to translate the Chinese parts for her. At the end she didn't say "stop raising ur opinions". It only translates to that if you translate her sentence literally, which doesn't work very well with Chinese. A more accurate translation is like "can we just get a whole run-through without stopping"
Stop saying “evil edit” It’s not, Cai Bing being selfish. Jia and other girls did choreo too, but she mentioned only herself. And be like “I’m the leader, I will do what I want” So it’s not evil edit, she is just selfish and rude.
@@hhana5190 In intermission, the mentor ask who choreograph the dance and she said she is, well infact 4-5 (Jia,Doah etc) members also form the choreography, good thing doah spoke up and said that many of them create the choreo.
KIM DAYEON managed to lead her team and choreographed everything while CAI BING messed up her team and even said she has no time to practice by herself even 4 of them helped to choreographed the performance... CAI BING is so self-centered and THIS CAME TO HER MEMBERS OPINIONS, she's a stubborn... she really want to keep the center role even JIA fits it... this ep. is very toxic to this team... but still they were the best and WON, kinda sad for ICE CREAM team and KIM DAYEON, and now I think I lost my interest to CAI BING while her fans are covering it up when it's too obvious it's not mistranslation.
The funniest thing in this clip is Kim Dayeon just chilling in the corner minding her own business then suddenly her 'rivals' are having an intense discussion
I'm watching the iqiyi version, cause they always translate Fu yaning words to make her look bad and maybe it happened here. But seeing all the members upset...idk if it's evil editing yall. But they surely hate Chinese trainees. They never praise them and they're always the problematic ones in the team lol. Edit the translation is correct
cb stfu none of them said so all of them are saying that this is the correct translation and even if they were lying why were the members also complaining + she took credit for the choreography when she only made the intro
For everyone saying it’s a mistranslation: “no one can defend this and say it’s a mistranslation, i’m a chinese speaker and she really did say that loud and clear. to be more accurate, after she said “shes leader” in korean, she carried on saying “我觉得我说的最算” which means “i think my words weigh the most” and then she says “actually let’s not stop anymore, carry on, don’t voice your opinions anymore”. word for word: 我觉得我做的可以/最算了>we can js take my words/my words weigh the most (she says it abit fast but its ard the same meaning) 其实不要在停了,继续,赶紧继续吧>don't stop any more continue, let's quickly continue 不要在提出任何意见了>don't bring up any opinions anym” From @ilywg on twitter
If Salute team had such a bad teamwork, they wouldn’t have won, think about it. Especially since Dayeon’s team had such a good teamwork. Something doesn’t quite add up. Remember that we’re still dealing with Mnet before you judge, that’s all I’m going to say.
I think it's because you couldn't see that on stage, if you see their performance without all the messy leadership context you would think they did great and what's being judge is the stage perfomance not the context
Yall are cancelling her too fast. We can't deny that she said those words which is wrong and very selfish as a leader but If you'd notice at the end, she listened to the opinion of the members like giving her center part to Ji Ah and let Luo Fei also do the choreo alone. Don't you think MNET's really playing with the minds of the people? If she didn't change, she would still have all the parts and her teammates wouldn't be on good terms with her but when they announced the winner, they all hugged Cai Bing. They only showed her mistakes and not when they resolved the issue and what happened behind the curtains. I am on neither side. Both Cai Bing and Mnet was wrong. This is just my opinion.
Wait I dont think she gave up her part to Jia, at the end of the rehearsal she said she will do her best to lead her team and nail her killing part if u watched the whole episode. Its just the fact the Cai Bing's parts were not as appealing as Jia's whole performance
@@yeonslay7704 ok now Im confused. Why would she say she'll do good for the killing part after the rehearsal if she had given up on the position? How can they practice with the new positions in a short amount of time???
@@hanchijihi6626 after I saw the tweet, I think that they've resolved the issue and Cai Bing knew she showed a bad example as a leader? I was actually 100% convinced it wasn't an evil edit until I saw that tweet.
please get caibing out of your votes. in chinese and this was not a mistranslation at all. she literally told all of her members to stop talking and interrupting and continue practicing without giving anymore opinions. i’m sorry, but salute shouldn’t have won. doah and jia were the best in here, and props to doah who spoke up, please vote for her! this is not evil editing whatsoever. the team members have said their take, and it’s clear on what the situation is here. caibing claims she had no time to polish her moves but dayeon choreographed the ENTIRE dance and she did it perfectly. ice cream robbed. please please vote for dayeon
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I just don't like how Cai Bing justifies her mistake by saying that she can't focus because she has to take care of the other members. I mean, like Doah said, she didn't even make the whole choreography like Dayeon did, so it shouldn't be an excuse. Even Dayeon can still do her part well even though she has to constantly teach the other members. Anyway, congrats to Salute, they nailed it!
Who are the ones who made the choreo for Salute?
@@Winterfrost7 almost all of them, but mostly jia, risako and doah
Honestly Ice Cream deserved to win, Salute did well but the atmosphere was so tense it almost felt like another The Eve, meanwhile Ice Cream had such a good environment and attitude and it showed in the final performance
I was really rooting for Ice Cream team but Salute won by a little in the end 😭
And I hope she will learn to accept her mistakes in future🙄 she is the oldest one jeesh…
@@hiraidiamond5933 nope at least this team all had input instead of relying only on one person
Evil edited or not, Cai Bing claimed that she choreographed the dance herself without crediting the other members. She refused to give the center part despite making constant mistakes. She also did not lead her team well and made everyone very tense.
Frankly, I’m glad Doah spoke out about it because Cai Bing really rubbed me off the wrong way because her skills don’t match her overconfidence. However, I do think the language barrier also played a big role to the team’s conflict.
Respect your opinion and agree to most but cai bing gave the girls lots of opportunity to have a centre position.
I think everyone could have raised their hand but nobody did. So she did afterwards uhm... yeah but it's correct that DoAh said it afterwards. I just feel like we all jump into conclusions without knowing what happened exactly. The same thing also happened with i-land and other survival shows.
But it does seem like she listened to her team. When I watched the perf, everybody got their own killing part. And yoon jia seemed to have the most center time.
She must’ve thought that the members would speak for themselves and tell the masters they involved in the choreography too she isn’t fluent at Korean and the fact that she’s taking the leadership also is very overwhelming so making her anger bursted out ITS UNDERSTANDABLE SO LETS NOT BE CHLIDISH AND MAKE AN ISSUE FOR UNNECESSARY REASONS… who knows mnet might’ve evil edited her too 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
we don’t even know if her raising her hand was actually to the question they showed. And tbh I don’t even know which part is the killing part after watching the performance, I think every members got a nice part to play with, the killing part wasn’t so outstanding anyways
I'm not too sure about Cai Bing now - this isn't the sort of attitude you'd want in a final group
You eat Mnet's narrative brainlessly bravo
@@odeliamili7129 she did it to herself. She is self-obsessed. She wants yo be in center and she didn't want to listen to other's girls opinion. Not evil editing, it's just rude and self-centered
@@odeliamili7129 Lol what? Brainlessly? Dont defend her. She literally discredited doah risako and jia. And Doah is straight forward so her crying wont put her into sympathy. I DO NOT THINK SHE GOT EVIL EDITED. Most of them was frustrated bc how unfair she is to her teammates.
@@odeliamili7129 you can't evil edit that she literally said she is the leader so she can do whatever she wants and that she told her teammates to stop voicing their opinions.
They start to evil edit cai bing now o no :( . also i think cai bing sometimes doesnt understand korean 100% so that also puts her in difficult situations
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This is the only case where I don't think it's evil editing - hearing the girls explicitly voice their opinions can't be scripted or edited...
perioddd
Yes!
Yes thats what is meant too... this can't be a evil edit, it came out to the members voice that CAI BING is very stubborn
What happen? I don't understand what's going because there is no translation
@appa is an airbender cai bing refused to give up the killing part after she messed up in the interim check, and told everyone she was the leader and no one should voice opinions against her
When Doah speaks her mind, she’s extra attractive.
So true 😩✋
Visual materials only 😌
And shes mindful of the way she phrases it too?? Like wow queen shit 😫👌
ikr, doah savage
*Self promoting* 🤣🤣🤣
Sorry, but it’s clear that Cai Bing needs a reality check, like she got the killing part and then tries to abuse her power as a leader, but she’s the one in the team who messes up??? It makes no sense, at least admit to your mistakes and work together as a TEAM. Just cause multiple people choreographed doesn’t mean they all worked well as a team, Ice Cream had one main choreographer but they still worked as a team way better. I hope Cai Bing learns from this cause it will actually help her if she wants to debut in a team. The best kpop groups are the ones with chemistry, not the ones who make a competition with their members.
Cai bing is my first pick, but i really was shocked with her leadership here the whole segment really had a tense atmosphere, not everyone is suited to be a leader and it’s clear Cai Bing isn’t suited with being a leader, hope she can learn from this and improve !
The last three lines 😌✋
At first i thought it was a mistranslation but apparently Chinese speakers confirmed thats pretty much what she said...
@@00_png10 Yea me too, I know deep down she isn't a bad person, I guess its tense cause everyone is desperate to stand out, but I just hope she understands that teamwork is the best option, especially in a show made to create a group itself.
Her attitude here was a turn off to me. Not my top 9 material anymore.
You really need someone like Kim Doah in every group, she's honest & not afraid to speak up her mind. The leader main job is to LEAD the team, you're supposed to listen & considering each of members opinion, not dismissing them and Caibing failed at that. They should've choose Kim Doah as the leader tbh. And from this episode I respect Kim Dayeon even more, she choreographed the dance alone, giving each members their own killing part, slayed her own part & creating comfortable environment in her team
Yeah KIM DAYEON was the best in this round since she did everything by herself despite young age she knows how to handle a big team... while CAI BING is reasoning the lack of TIME to practice like she said in HYLT era... while the reality is 4 members helped to choreo the performance... KIM DAYEON REALLY GOT MY RESPECT AND VOTE, I won't VOTE for CAIN BING ANYMORE.
Kim Dayeon went greedy with the solo parts though
@@solosolo1945 I was dissapointed by Caibing this episode because she clearly disrespected her members by discrediting them & refused to listen to their opinion. Fortunately the performance went well
@@caffeinated4901 wdym went greedy when in fact it's her right as she's the killing part? she could've made choreography when she's in the center all the time but she didn't, i don't know why she's getting all the hate when she just doing her job
kim dayeon got rob again. Like seriously she is just tooooo talented
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This isnt evil editing… if it was….the other members wouldn’t also be having a problem with how she’s acting. She tried to take credit for all of the choreography, ignored the masters advice, cried so she can keep her part, then just flat out stopped being a leader and became a dictator. This is very disappointing…. I feel bad for Doah. She should’ve been on another team and deserves better.
Also, mnet’s evil editing is very effective… if they really wanted to do that to her, they would’ve done it already and got her eliminated like they did with You Dayeon… So this girl really dug her own hole.
@@sophiasaucedo6498 what?! You Dayeon got eliminated?!
Right? Like when pretty u team were asked to reconsider centers, the leader easily had a discussion with her team and gave up the center position to keep harmony. And that leader/trainee was 10 years younger than bing
and the fact that she acts like this when she has messed up multiple times witb dancing. she’s either too fast or wAY to slow… im just baffled
@@nosananolife9894 yeah she did sadly :(
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Anyway, I still believe Ice Cream team did better as a team than the salute team. They deserved to win. I rest my case.
same i wish the ice cream team won. they had much better teamwork T_T
I think Salute's choreography is better and harder than ice cream thats why they won.
@@FarinazNI I honestly don't think it is harder. It looks "harder" cuz it's a different concept whereas people would straight up classify Ice Cream as being "cute" despite a huge variety of moves involved (the choreography towards the end of Ice Cream is extremely physically demanding). For me, Salute was safe and seen-that-before. It doesn't excite me as much as Ice Cream even tho I'm such a fan of Little Mix xD But i freaking love Doah and Risako so anything for them to earn the extra points haha.
ikr 😭
@@normypienguyen yeah. i think so too. and these programs are all about building the perfect group. Ice cream team looked like an already debuted group. they had such great chemistry between the members. Dayeon was the perfect leader. they lost by 0.33 points. such a shame.
trans:
hyerim: we voted for caibing for killing part because we thought she looks the best for it, but i think giving it to the main dancer (jia) would be a bit better.
caibing: it’s because i’ve been always taking care of everyone’s parts and distributing them so i’ve never thought of what i’m missing out in
doah: the masters suggested that we should change the killing part but caibing said that she had no time (to polish her mistakes). i’m speechless, because it’s not like she choreographed the entire dance like dayeon. that’s not the case for her.
caibing: for my killing part i don’t have to do it perfectly, it just has to catch people’s attention. i’m not saying that i should be the killing part but everybody dances really well. everyone dances well so everyone has the killing part. when everyone dances, you all stand out really well.
risako: caibing is very opinionated. we’re giving opinions, but she doesn’t want to listen. i wanted jia to have the killing part but i couldn’t say it. (why?) because she started crying.
caibing: because i want everyone to do well. (chiayi translates what she said to them)
1:52
doah: they’re doing it together?
risako: two people?
caibing: yes two people!
luofei: we don’t have to dance with two people
(settles on luofei’s solo)
chiayi: (explains to caibing in chinese) we thought luofei would be dancing solo (in this part)
2:24
luofei: but… now
hyerim: luofei should do it solo so that it’s less confusing for us
caibing: i’m the leader
i think whatever i say, it counts.
just stop stopping (the practice)! just continue. stop giving opinions already!
doah and hana talks about he attitude and their negative opinion about it
Thank you bestie have a nice day
Omg thnkyoooo❤
bless
Ooofff not good for leader, thanks for the translation
Bless you
A little reminder, despite the stellar praises Sunmi gave towards CaiBing in the very first performance, she was actually ranked 28 in c-group. That makes me realized of why she's VERY unstable in her performances.
Now that you mentioned it, I just realized that. Damn, their true colours are showing up each ep.
I once watch her fancam for theme song o.o.o, she looks stiff and out of tempo. Then in hylt performance and now salute, she always makes mistakes. People just vote her because of her cat eyes i guess.
The masternim only judge them for having an aura of idols but blind for a true talent
@@n0tsoinsane Yeah agreed. People just voting her coz she has the similar eye look with yeji from itzy. Other than that she needs a lot of improvement in comparison to other trainees here who is doing great.
Which it's weird considering she said to have experience creating Choreographies and stuff, I mean if you have that experience how come you tent to be a little late or earlier than the others?
Whether what Caibing said was a mistranslation or not, there were other issues and you can clearly see the frustrations of her members
There is no mistranslation. I think it is her fans trying to create a frog.
Its not a mistranslation, chinese speaker said its true
Chinese is my native language, and there is no mistranslation issue, Cai Bing’s fans please be rational!
Im a mandarin speaker and i can say there's no mistranslation. In fact what she said in some parts is more harsh than the actual translation. For example lthe last part where team salute won
she actually said something that is quite inappropriate and the translation translate her words in a more calm tone.
@@kstchl35 what did she say when they won?
Honestly cai bing disappointed so much. A leader should unite the team not saying “ don’t voice your opinion cuz I’m the leader”.
@@cb6899 nope it’s real. I’m Chinese, and what she said was just absurd as a leader…
@@cb6899 even if it was wrong the members reaction tell us what really happened. You can see that most of them are so pissed
That line was the most shocked line from all produce series that I watched. Usually leader always getting a burden, try to make the team better, or having lot of mind bcs they feel they are not good enough as a leader. But this one hmm.
@@cb6899 nop, chinese are saying its right. Syop giving excuses
@@cb6899 its not extremely inaccurate. I feel like i could translate the words more accurately, but I think they used their word choice to fit the situation better. Very disappointed but ultimately they meant the same thing
I’m so proud with Doah, I think she can be a leader of debut group
The group want her attitude of working.
YASS
Yeah it seems like Cai Bing abused her power and didnt help her teammates at all. Doah, Jia and Risako led the team the most not Cai Bing.
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RUclips: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
RUclips: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾
@Emaan Ara Zaidi but someone said she's 25?
YES PLEASE VOTE HER
제발 얘 데뷔막아라..... 분명 얘때문에 그룹 사건터진다
리더의 역할이 뭔지도 모르는 차이빙 ! 그래서 샤롯팀 팀원들은 전멸하고 혼자만 살아 남았는데 저런식이면 데뷔해도 팀 해체되는 것은 시간문제다
아니야 알긴 아는데 중국식 사회주의형 리더라서 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
この状態でステージに立ったの？というような編集だった…。リーダー・キリングパート共にキムダヨンの方が上だと感じました。リーダーのツァイビーンは実力と協調性のある他のメンバーに感謝するべきです。
At first I thought Cai Bing was just being evil edited, but damn her attitude really baffled me throughout the whole episode. From taking the credit for making the whole choreo and telling her teammates to not give their opinions...it's all inexcusable. She wasn't a good leader.
I was speechless fr...
Yes her attitude is rude
She gave up killing PART lmaoo MNET 💀snakes
@@cb6899 there were also some chinese users who said that the translation was correct though...but regardless, the whole team clearly had problems with her so I don't think this is an evil edit.
@@cb6899 if its inaccurate doah and others wouldnt be reacting like that tho
Cai Bing claimed that she choreographed the dance herself without crediting the other members. It could not be any evil editing. It is her true color.
the others didn't raise their hands... they could have but stood there akwardly
I dont know how to feel about Cai Bing anymore ....i was rooting for her 😭
@@NisaK_BTSVT Do Ah did raised her hand though...
@@NisaK_BTSVT they were looking at eachother bc they didn’t know who to credit, it was quite clear that they were about to raise their hands until cai spoke up.
The others spent a whole 10 seconds staring at each other and not answering the damn question but suddenly their tongue were loose after Cai Bing raised her hand... Yeah right, she is the problem 🙄
I'm sorry but Da Yeon looks so extra pretty just sitting there with that face while this team is in chaos, it's so funny
Exactly what I thought, she just sitting there minding her own businesses with earphones in while salute team arguing is kinda funny to me. 🥲
queen dayeon being unbothered, as she should
🤣🤣🤣
Looks like shes thinking “not my problem”
@@DrDiborane lmao 😂
오역 진짜 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 차이빙이 한 말은 “ 내 의견이 가장 적합하다고/적절하다고 생각해 “ 인데 제대로 오역을 하네 … 애당초 억양도 공손하게 말하는거였는데 …. 한 사람 인생이 걸린건데 편집할때 조금 신중히 해주길 …
할 진짜요 ? 역시 암넷...
@@luv-hc7bk 네,, 의미를 엄청 많이 바꾼건 아니지만 방송 자체로 볼땐 그 사람의 화법을 바꿔버려서ㅜ이미지 자체를 망친거니까 ㅠ
맞아요.... 중국인인데 저렇게 단호하진 않아요...
Their team reminds me of The Eve's team, but this is more frustrating, atleast in The Eve, they were able to fix their problem immediately after the interim but this team, I noticed that Cai Bing would push her opinion every time the members would speak up, that essentially gave them a hard time
It’s not the same at all , in this team Cai Bing wants to take credit for everything and is manipulating her teammates to let her be center by crying like a baby!
yes the eve fixed their problem very quickly and they were all good and amicable about it. watch behind the scenes you'll see how they had a good relationship. caibing is just offputting at this point man like i hope people stop voting for her
@@XXxxEllyxx what I I meant about the similarity between these two teams is the conflicts internally , not necessarily the reason and what happened because they're completely different in terms of that
Cai Bing is opinionated and stubborn person you can see that she don't listen to the opinion of other people. I find her so greedy when she take all the credits for the choreography and manipulative when she cried when the team wants to consider changing the center.
@@XXxxEllyxx yah she should cry like a baby because she took the killing part but I can’t see any killing part for her in that dance others are shining except for her so at least she took the center part ☺️
thank god to doah for speaking upfor her team im very happy they won VOTE DOAH AND JIA RNNNN
VOTE YOON JIA!!!!
@@emmalovegrove77 PERIODTTTTTTTTTTT AND DOAH OFCC
@@notevenlori BOTH QUEENS ARE IN MY PICK!!! jia is just close to being eliminated
@@emmalovegrove77 i hope jia gets the planet pass i really think she deserves it and def arai getting it for jgroup since she only got screentime this ep 😭😭
@@notevenlori i think that if she doesn’t make it through that the judges will def give her a planet pass because they constantly praise her
bruh, Jia should be center
I came here from their perf video. Tbh, if not for the 'names' they put on the bottom left when the girls are singing their part, I'll completely think Jia got the center position. Her stage presence was overflowing.
literally. i don’t understand why most of the members chose cai bang like comon we know jia is more powerful.😕
Jia just proved to us that she can shine whatever her position is.That’s what we call talent.
If you watch the performance, the real 'center' is jia because she is stood out the most
@@bym0ni if you watch the ep when they pick the one who gonna be the killingpart, you will see that cai bing being ambitious and force her opinions so they let her take the center
한국어로 말 못하는데.. 한국 아이돌로 데뷔..? 오 신기하네 요즘은..
Clearly, this is not MNET's evil editing rather, this is her true personality. I voted her everyday, this disappoints me but I'm hoping for the best. My opinion, my problem.
If only i can take the votes back... what a shame... ☹️
same ive been defending her these past few weeks when people said she brought nothing to the table, now i cant defend her anymore
The voting ends in less than ten hours so this will probably not affect her in this elimination. But probably in the next one it will. I voted for her but I don’t want someone with bad attitude in the top 9. She made many mistakes too…
i want my votes back!! :(
It wasn't your fault! At least you know now to give more opportunities to other trainees in the 3rd round of voting and not vote for her
Putting her in the top 9 instead of Yaning was a terrible error
I agree :/ even though yaning lead "The Eve" and there were conflicts in the group, at least she tried her best to fix it and discuss with the members after the judges corrected them
nah both are better off gone
At least Fu Yaning cares about her teammates
At least the eve team was able to fix their problems after the interim check. While Caibing literally pushed the other members opinion and didn't want to give up her centre position💀 Chile I thought fyn was the worst but we have a way worse candidate
@@biakkompa8107 exactly!
Honestly despite Cai Bing being the center. Jia stole the spotlight. I could not take my eyes off of her and I keep on repeating her part..
me with arai jia and doahs part like they stood out i was so literally hype for them
Jia, the other jia, also Doah, they took the spotlight away. 😂😂
Sorry but you're a leader not a boss. Leaders should listen to the opinion of the members too because it's a Team.
If you are aware, actually Caibing's selfish nature has been seen since last week when he wanted to get a leader and center position. Hyerim and Jia tried that time but Caibing didn't seem to care. a leader must be able to protect his members well, not even drop his members with pressure from the chairman
Too bad that's not applied to CCP dictatorship
@@madmanmadlad2876 wtf are you talking about? Why bring politics here
this is a competition. if u want to be a leader, u have to prove u are worthy. caibing did that and her team voted for her ON THEIR OWN ACCORD. only after did all of them realise that caibing is not ready to be a leader. only this way can she learn her weaknesses and strengths.
in the end, caibing did listen to her team, she gave up so many of her parts u can barely see her in the final performance. and dont even get me started on ‘she only did it after her members and masters told her to’ well then HOW ELSE IS SHE SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHERE SHE WENT WRONG? only with interim checks and members suggestions can she know which parts to give up, and she only wanted to keep like one or two parts. is that too much to ask for? literally all the members shined, stop saying that shes selfish
자막 너무 과장시킨듯.
중국어로 번역해보면“ 내 의견이 적합하다고 생각해” 이거임
悪編じゃなくてツァイビーンの本性が見えただけ
それなw
Mnet evil edit 💢
ビーンちゃん、魅力的なんだけど実力不足でリーダーも向いてないのに自信だけは人一倍あるんだよね。
振り付けは自分でやったと手柄を全てかっさらおうとしたり、キリングパートは泣き落としで譲らないのも今後デビュー出来たとしてもチームワークが悪くなるよ。
今回の話みるとヤーラちゃんもそうでしたね、、
周りも接することが大変そうです汗
Doah and her straightforwardness lmao i love this girl sm 😹
OMFG RIGHT
@Sapphire Eyahrey YEEESS 🙌
*AISURU.TOKYO/shizumi?[Making-Love]💞*
(◍•ᴗ•◍)✧*。18 years and over
RUclips: This is fine
Someone: Says "heck"
RUclips: Be gone
#однако #я #люблю #таких #рыбаков #Интересно #забавно #девушка #смешная #垃圾
This is not mnet’s evil editing anymore. It’s so clear that she’s so selfish and does not care about her team but herself. “I’m the leader. Don’t voice out your opinions anymore” REALLY?!!
@@selina_kt-1343 The reaction from the girls says otherwise, but ok.
@@selina_kt-1343 what’s the correct translation then lol even if it’s inaccurate she said something along that line right? Look at the other girl’s reaction
@@selina_kt-1343 but it really is : For everyone saying it’s a mistranslation:
“no one can defend this and say it’s a mistranslation, i’m a chinese speaker and she really did say that loud and clear.
to be more accurate, after she said “shes leader” in korean, she carried on saying “我觉得我说的最算” which means “i think my words weigh the most” and then she says “actually let’s not stop anymore, carry on, don’t voice your opinions anymore”.
word for word:
我觉得我做的可以/最算了>we can js take my words/my words weigh the most (she says it abit fast but its ard the same meaning)
其实不要在停了,继续,赶紧继续吧>don't stop any more continue, let's quickly continue
不要在提出任何意见了>don't bring up any opinions anym”
From @ilywg on twitter
@@selina_kt-1343 Which part of the translation is not accurate? As I could understand Chinese and Korean, I think the translation is most accurate in this video.
@@selina_kt-1343 I mean from what I’ve tried to translate myself she said “im leader, I think what i say goes, just stop stopping and keep going now, just stop voicing out any other opinions”. I mean I have nothing much against Cai Bing and this, yes could be completely edited or scripted, or could be the complete truth, but this just what I heard word for word in chinese and then translated into english.
dayeon and the ice cream team works really hard, dont forget them
they deserve to win :((
“Stop giving opinions already”
“I’m the leader, I think whatever I say is done”
Tbh I don’t think this is Msnake’s evil editing… For me an example of evil editing is Fu Yaning’s “We go up, but you don’t”. She stopped/paused after saying “we go up” but the planet masters kept encouraging her. The planet masters also complemented her afterwards. But this Caibing situation, she took credit for the dance, gaslights other members and her leader role felt more like a dictatorship. I really hope she changes this attitude because there are a lot of people supporting her.
First of all the others could have told as well. But they did not raise their hands. We also don't know for what she (cai bing) raised her hand for real. We also do not know what happened before and after this !!!3 MINUTE!!! scene
Also it's very sus that only doah gets to have a single interview? Like why do you not let cai bing speak?
I don't believe anything that mnet cuts and makes you believe. Open your eyes
There's no time to change her attitude she will go bye bye in the next elimination👋👋
@@NisaK_BTSVT I would want to agree with you, but what cai bing said like taking all the credit for choreographing the song and saying she's the leader and she can do anything she wants is not how a good leader is supposed to be. The other girls didn't raise their hands because they were probably shocked that Cai Bing took all the credit. If Cai Bing was a good leader, she should have given some credit to the other girls. Am I wrong? At least DoAh spoke up about it.
@@NisaK_BTSVT what? Chinese people have said the translation is accurate, and the other members are clearly frustrated as well. How is it evil editing
@@NisaK_BTSVT How can you blame the other members when Cai Bing was behaving like that?! of course they were shocked and intimidated. Cai Bing was so authoritarian.
黙々と一人で振り考えてるダヨンちゃん可愛い
Dayeon managed to stand out everyone without any excuse, while CB only thinks of herself
Caibing is still lacking but her attitude is just wow. No wonder she wasnt in my pick from the very beginning,maybe its because i sense smtng?lol Rather have hsin wei in the line up
@@antonettedaleon1743 yass we need hsin weiii
@@antonettedaleon1743 to be honest, I sensed something off about her too in the first few eps
Kulang sa 2log to
Me too .maldita kay siyag nawng
この練習風景を見てしまうと、素晴らしいステージも気持ちよく見ることができませんでした。
悲しい😢
The whole cell thing is over? After this, I don't want Yujin to be dragged because of Cai Bing.
Cai Bing was so wrong, she wanted to take all the credits of the choreo, she didn't practiced as hard as the other members, and she even said that she didn't wanted to keep hearing opinions of the members about the center role because "I'M tHe LeAdeR, aNd sToP saYiNg yOur oPinIons"
Tbh she didn't even standed out in the performance, JiA made it so good even if she wasn't the center.
I hope that Cai Bing enjoyed her time in the Top9, because i ain't voting for her anymore
Same, i will not vote for her anymore I might change it to Ya Ning now
I feel bad for Jia for not having the killing part.. but still she nailed the whole performance even she doesn't have the killing part.
Sorry for my bad english
Same gurl, same. All my wasted votes on her. I feel stupid
i kinda sus with mnet editing with that scene. we know that cai bing is not good at Korean, and when the mentor asked who made the choreo, luo fei hand movement was pointed toward cai bing and then cai bing raised her hand, idk if there was some misunderstood so mnet could edited in certain way they wanted to be. gosh i have a huge trust issue with mnet
With fu yaning you could tell it was evil edited from the way she acts in other episodes and also the way she acts while watching others perform but I have always gotten a bad feeling bout cai bing
the cell thing IS over
차이빙이 한말을 제대로 번역하면 내 의견을 존중해주면 좋겠어 내 의견을 따라주면 좋겠어 이런 맥락인데 암넷에서 내가 리더니까 내 맘대로 할꺼야 이따구로 번역해놓음... 결론은 이건 차이빙 나락 보내려고 만들어놓은 악편...
好きな子が本当に多いチームだけどツァイビーンのせいで素直に応援できなかった このベネフィットはツァイビーン以外のメンバーの我慢の賜物だからね
ホントにその通りです。指摘された時の言い訳も、皆で決めた事を蒸し返して自分が自分がいうのが見えてなりませんでした。リーダーが皆の事を想い、理解し、まとめていかないといけないのに、OA見る限りそれをしてたのはドアちゃんだった様な気がしました。ホントに残念です。
さすがにお子ちゃま過ぎますよね
本当にそう思います。私はドアとダヨン推しですが、凄く複雑な気持ちになりました。最初から最後まで最高だったice creamチームを応援したいけど、ドア含め他のメンバーがどれだけ我慢して辛かったか考えるとsaluteチームにも報われてほしいって思って🥲この結果は本当に本番の出来含めて他のメンバーのおかげだと思います。
Sorry.... but you can’t blame evil editing here...
Who knows? Chinese people on twitter said the translations are inaccurate.
@@odeliamili7129 For everyone saying it’s a mistranslation:
“no one can defend this and say it’s a mistranslation, i’m a chinese speaker and she really did say that loud and clear.
to be more accurate, after she said “shes leader” in korean, she carried on saying “我觉得我说的最算” which means “i think my words weigh the most” and then she says “actually let’s not stop anymore, carry on, don’t voice your opinions anymore”.
word for word:
我觉得我做的可以/最算了>we can js take my words/my words weigh the most (she says it abit fast but its ard the same meaning)
其实不要在停了,继续,赶紧继续吧>don't stop any more continue, let's quickly continue
不要在提出任何意见了>don't bring up any opinions anym”
From @ilywg on twitter
@@odeliamili7129 stop turning a blind eye when you dont even speak Chinese. You're not even sure if the people who said that it was a mistranslation were even telling the truth.
@@cb6899 ur flooding with ur mistranslation issue here so toxic we all know it's not and her members SAYS IT ALL so shut up
@@LordPlainProductions but her members opinion says it all and enough to determine that CAI BING is a trash
失敗したら素直に謝ってみんなの意見を聞くのはリーダーとか関係なく人として当たり前だと思うんだが。周りのメンバーがここまで戸惑ってるから悪編ではないでしょう。
아닠ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 안무를 혼자만 만든 소리도 그렇고 더이상 의견 내지 말자는 게 너무하잖아..
다같이 더 좋은 무대를 만들어줘야 하는 것보다 그것 더 중요해…?
말도 안 돼 진짜..
킬링파트 맡고 있지만 솔직히 다른 멤버들 더 보이는데?
차이빙의 중국말이 해석이 잘못 되었든 제대로 되었든..차이빙은 그냥 리더로써 하면 안되는 행동만 한겁니다..혼자 다했다능~리더 말을 따라 행동 해라든..시간이 없어서 못했다는듯..다 핑계일 뿐입니다..그리고 마지막..울어서 넘기는 행동들 다 잘 못된 리더의 행동이라고 생각합니다.그리고 아이스크림과 근소한 차이로 이겼는데..그런 점수를 받은거 자체가 차이빙이 잘 하지못했다는겁니다..본인의 순위등 멤버들은 더 좋았습니다..그런데 1점도 안되는 차이로 이긴거는 부끄러운 것입니다..
차이빙은 누군가와 같이 그룹으로 있으면 안된다는걸 느꼈습니다..
김혜림이 리더했어야 했어요...
ㅇㅈ. 엠넷이 악편으로 유명하지만 차이빙이 본인 입으로
한말은 사실이니까.. 도아가 저렇게까지 말한것도 그렇고 팀원들 표정에서도 말해주네요.
ここのチームは全体が見れるキムドアがリーダーになった方が良かったな
たしかリーダー決める時もドアちゃん立候補してたけどビーンちゃんが“自分が自分が”って感じでしたもんね…
There was no teamwork in this group but still they won like seriously
But they did so well on the stage so they won at the end.
The choreography is simply better and one member didn't abuse center, imo there was too much Dayeon in ice cream performance but in this one , every member shined
@poochiepussay but that's so unfair for other hardworking trainees
@poochiepussay Honestly I think the opposite. Cai Bing received so. many. negative edits in this episode that I was half-convinced MNet doesn't want her in the final group. Honestly, since HYLT even. Some of it was deserved, especially here with the Doah scenes (I fully believe that frustration was genuine), but even in winning, Cai Bing STILL received an evil edit.
I think you might be too focused on cai bings behaviour, the other members did have team work
ツァイビーン、自己中心的だな。
強気なのは良いと思うけど、グループでステージを作るのには少し重荷になる人間性だと感じる。
なぜ周囲の空気、表情、言葉に気づけない？
You can clearly see how Doah is trying not to explode.
0:38 다연이 이어폰 끼고 진지한 표정으로 정리하는거 개간지
Jia was done dirty by Cai Bing . Period
fr i really wanted her to do the killing part
fr
Cai Bing Buh Bye
So self centered, it wasn't even evil editing when the words came out of her own mouth
no hate to cai bing but i think Ji A should've got the killing part with Do Ah as their leader.
or Hyerim ye.. any of the three for either positions
@@aldrerosario220 At first I thought they will choose Hyerim as leader. Because she lead Yes or Yes team to be the best team on previous mission and able to perform at mcount. They have some problem at first, but they solved it quickly because Chaehyun always trying to take care everyone and Hyerim always respect every opinion. But here they didn't choose her.
wait, i think jia got the killing part.
@@shinesoshi8197 she didn't, Cai Bing's killing part was just not as appealing as Jia's whole performance, Cai Bing stated on the rehearsal that she will "do her best to lead and nail her killing part" if you watched the whole episode
@@hanchijihi6626 yes i watched the whole performance but i think im missing this. and back then when i watch their performance its like jia got the killing part so im confused. thanks for clarify this
아니 좀 의견 차이 있을 수도 있지 항미 신장 지지도 안한 몇 안되는 클린 멤을 이렇게 방출 시킴 진짜 피디픽 너무 투명했다 그리고 '내가 리더니까 내 말만 들어!'가 아니라 '나는 내 의견이 타당하다고 생각해' 인데 번역 진짜 거지 같이 하네 그럴거면 차라리 아침 드라마 작가나 하세요 자극적이게 소설 잘 쓰네 푸야닝은 차피 나도 별로 안좋아했지만 푸야닝으로 자극적인 그림 만들겠다고 가만히 잘하던 우리 언니 동료가 뭘하고 있든 혼자 묵묵히 잘하는 최연장자 포지션으로 만들어 주더니 개욕먹던 푸야닝 갱생 시키고 그림 더 뽑을거 없나 프로 심심하지니까 바로 황씽치아오랑 같이 나락 보낸게 존나 웃김 항미 신장 지지 안했고 점점 잘하고 인기 많아지는데 피디픽 아니니까 바로 악편 때리고 이게 조작이랑 뭐가 달라요
이게 뭐가 악편임 .,,, 인성 그대로 나왔는데.. 차이빙 제발 투표 하지마세요 ㅜ 그룹 망함
ㄹㅇ 악편으로 만들어질 수준이 아님
ツァイビーンのこの性格は仮にデビューできたとしてもそのグループの足引っ張るやろなぁ
やってる事さすが中国人って感じですよね。まさかガルプラで習近平が見れるなんて思ってもなかったです！！！
これで最年長だからなあ
doah being very honest since pd48 by calling oit mnet for not giving her screentime yet her placing high is one of the reasons shes been my pick since 2018 so im very happy doah is a big help for the team since most of them dont want to speak against cai bing
i kinda sus with mnet editing with that scene. we know that cai bing is not good at Korean, and when the mentor asked who made the choreo, luo fei hand movement was pointed toward cai bing and then cai bing raised her hand, idk if there was some misunderstood so mnet could edited in certain way they wanted to be. gosh i have a huge trust issue with mnet
@@Ann-vp4kd chiayi who knows korean very well was translating for them the whole time
@@Ann-vp4kd chiayi and kimdoah are in the same kpop group aswell
@@notevenlori did u saw chiayi translated for her when sunmi asked? Bcs all I saw is they just stare at each other. Thats why Im questioning with this situation, also with luo fei hand movement.
When I was in 6th grade, we had a group project and teacher praised our team. Then he called my name bcs it was wrote at the first top (we arranged by alphabet, i was the only one starts with an A). I stand from my chair, and he gave the paper back to me. The rest of my group didn't like it and thought I was claimed it. I could imagine mnet could edited me in a certain way they want in this scenario 😂 thats why I sus so much about that scene. I had a trauma about that kind of misunderstood
Plss vote doah she's danger
Cai Bing performed POORLY this episode, as a dancer AND a leader. She was not tolerant to their ideas, she manipulated the members by crying and she gave excuses for her mistakes. Most importantly she tried to take all the credit for the choreo?? In the Salute dry rehearsal she was the only member that got criticized by the judges. her shortcomings are becoming a pattern and her attitude is looking even worse. Dayeon is taking that top 9 spot for sure😂Props to Doah for rightfully telling the TRUTH.
Edit: Am I the only person that thinks the final result was BS?👀 Ice-Cream team should have won
About the final results, I'm not mad because Jia, Hyerim, Doah, Chiayi and Luofei did excellent imo and they really put the perf on par with Ice Cream, but it was quite odd to me that Ice Cream didn't win. Idk all the masters seemed to be far more satisfied with it, and it definitely displayed better teamwork and charm. But hey maybe it's a technical dance thing and idk anything about that
I think they let salute team win so we will vote for ice cream members from now on hehehe ;))) Kim Dayeon ftw even if they ddnt win, I bet most of their members got boosted votes when the ice cream video came out. And Dayeon will most likely get planet pass if shes out in top 8 for k group.
but i also love ji ah, do ah, risako and hyerim from salute. The rest gomene.
@@parsachoudhury6727 Their score different was about 0.33 point. I believe the master think both of them are really good. So yeah, maybe it was some dance technique or anything.
I get why planet master make salute team win.Both team really did well and honestly I want ice cream team to win.But , i will also choose salute team to win as for me the distribution of each member more fairer than ice cream team.
Salute team did better if we're talking about dance competition.
Even hyerim voiced out her concern. Cai bing is really something. Hyerim should have been the leader
Ikr in her previous team she was such a good leader and I think she cares that everyone has the spotlight
What if theres no chaehyun in yes or yes team? U know i could make an edit and frame hyerim as if she did not listen to her members and make j-line cried. In a group project sometime theres a problem or misunderstanding, and mnet could use this as chance to make a drama, even changed the narrative to a certain way they want. Be grateful that what happened in yes or yes team was to framed and highlighted chaehyun kindness
Taking all credits for making the choreography, were in fact almost all member contributed to it..bruh fixed that attitude
I'm a Caibing fan but even this is evil edit or not, the members look stressful and unhappy, a good leader will never do that. Poor Jia, respect for Do Ah.
Please vote for Xu Ziyin!! Her performance in My Sea was amazing!!
キムドアの性格きつくて無理とか言ってる奴何？ちゃんと言うところは言う人がいないとダメなのは皆分かってるでしょ！今回はキムドア様様だった
同感。違うものは違うって言える人はチームに絶対必要だと思う。
Cai Bing is very talented but she really disappointed me today, the way she leads her groupmates and listens to their opinions clearly wasn’t professional. I’m pretty sure this wasn’t evil editing because even Kim Doah and the other members was frustrated with her attitude.
Wait a minute, is she that talented? Nope, there are other girls who are way more talented than her. For this case she just has a pretty privilege and a good gaze, thats it
her talents are so mediocre her dance is stiff, her rap is badly executed, and her voice dont have any power
How can she made same mistake over and over again since the 1st mission she always the one who made a mistake during practice
@@gia7879 period. all facts. 6 episodes in and she hasnt really improved. she cant fool me with her visuals anymore😂
THIS IS NOT EVIL EDITING, SHE WAS CLEARLY JUST BEING RUDE AND SELFISH
Yeah KIM DAYEON was the best in this round since she did everything by herself despite young age she knows how to handle a big team... while CAI BING is reasoning the lack of TIME to practice like she said in HYLT era... while the reality is 4 members helped to choreo the performance... KIM DAYEON REALLY GOT MY RESPECT AND VOTE, I won't VOTE for CAI BING ANYMORE.
Ikr dayeon is literally 18 same age as me and yet she's so mature
Cai Bing is really pissing me off, she won't let her team to voice out their opinions and when the masters criticize her mistakes, she put the blame to her teammates that she lacks individual practice🙄🙄🙄🙄 bye Cai Bing, next elimination will surely be you
@@Reymuru_sama yeah I kinda lost my interest in her but she most likely will stay
doah giving carrying her team is literally all i needed from this very very very painful behind the scene group clips
It makes me feel good that I didn't vote to Cai Bing 😅😅 there are many talented Chinese trainees which makes me hard to choose but it's a relief that I gave it to deserving girls. Fighting Girls!!
please vote for xuziyin
Vote for fu Yaning, su riqi and xin xiaoting ( idk if it's her name right 😭) and also roads xu
@@Sabrina_Ahmed899 Su ruiqi, Shen Xiaoting. There you go
Vote for Yale please
I'm not saying caibing is innocent or guilty.theres a language barrier so there's possiblity that mnet mistranslated what she said to Others.
so don't spread hate to Cai bing just like fyn Because we didn't know what happened behind the Cam..
Remember they mnet made fyn dirty..So don't spread hate if you didn't know what happened behind the cam
(just reminder before you hate)
ビーンちゃん推しだけどこれはさすがにビーンちゃんが周りに合わせなかったのよくないと思う😭リーダーだからってずっと自分の意見押しとうしていくのはよくないよね…😥リーダーだからこそみんなの意見を聞いてまとめるって事が大事だと思うな…推し変するかもな…グループ活動はあまり向いてないのかな😢
mainwhile dayeon in the back 👀👂📝
차이빙 우니까 도아 달려가서 달레주는거 봐.....ㅠㅠ
김도아 다시 돌려내!!!!!
fyi , caibing also made mistakes like this in hylt ( she wanted the killing part eagerly that time too ) but she ended up not doing well ! caibing is overconfident and arrogant ; the people who are saying its mnets evil editing ! no bro it's not ; the members were baffled and doah spoke up when caibing said she choreographed the whole song !
- I don't want to see caibing in the top 27 because being an idol doesn't require talent but also good personality and I don't get good vibes from her !
It’s sad this happened now because people already voted for her but maybe her rank will drop not the next elimination but after that because the vote is about to close
Also she got 30,000 benefits
So maybe in the third round of elimination her rank will drop because of this
I see some people said I want my cai bing vote back lol
She had a good attitude in the hylt team. Here she did a mess
Except in the HYLT missions she realize that she was wrong. I think after being announced as one of the top 9 she got really cocky. I’m really disappointed in her rn because I really did not expect this from her.
I only voted her because she was yujin's cell. And she seems okay on HYLT. But now, just because she's the only one wearing the purple uniform in Salute team, she thinks she can do whatever she wants 👎
I'm not going to vote for her anymore
i kinda sus with mnet editing with that scene. we know that cai bing is not good at Korean, and when the mentor asked who made the choreo, luo fei hand movement was pointed toward cai bing and then cai bing raised her hand, idk if there was some misunderstood so mnet could edited in certain way they wanted to be. gosh i have a huge trust issue with mnet
一概に同じとは言わないが。
中国のハッキリ言う、自分に自信を持つ（？）という性質が悪い面に出てる。例え、TOP9に選ばたり、リーダーに選ばれしても謙虚な気持ちでチームとして課題をこなすことが必要だと思う。国が違うのだから話し合うことは特に大切だと思う。次のステージは団結してより素晴らしいステージを披露して欲しいと願う。
Cai bing's my top 1 pick in cgroup and I also believe in mnet evil editing, buttt what she just did can't be blamed to mnet because she said those words herself, tbh I'm a little disappointed, I really like her alongside Yujin but........ I'm not sure anymore
even most chinese speakers said that what cai bing said isnt even basically mistranslation she really said what she said
@@notevenlori if chinese speakers not going to defend you too, thats when you know u fucked up man....
@@notevenlori I understand Chinese well enough to tell you there is absolutely no mistranslation
@@notevenlori people, i think what she meant here is “what cai bing said isn’t mistranslation” not “what she said is mistranslation?
@@hytnrl The cell voting system isn't used anymore so rest assured that Yujin and May won't be affected by this.
You could tell that Doah is a great listener. Ever since PD48, She's very observant esp when things gets serious at times like this. She knows the right thing to do for the team (she speaked up not just for herself) and speaks her mind truthfully with wise words and calm manner.
I am Chinese I think Caibing’s words are so rude and she didn’t respect her teammates
BTW Chiayi is so nice. She’s fluent in Korean and she help C group’s members.
请看马玉灵直播，中间评测只练了一天，把只练了一天的东西拿出来中间评测说好坏，是不是官方本生就有搞事情的嫌疑。不过蔡冰说话确实有问题这个毋庸置疑，但蔡冰的出发点是希望每个人都有亮点，蔡冰当队长的时候就说了自己在国内编过舞，然后当了队长，是不是意味着蔡冰这个队长负责编舞，然而金镀我带了其他4个人搞了个小圈子编了一段，你要是对长你会不会觉得跟自己的设想不一样，心态会不会波动，至于说蔡冰抢功劳，我相信大家的理解都没问题，蔡冰一直说动线，动线，这意味着蔡冰要理解组内每个人的动作进行串连编排，蔡冰像是一个项目经理，组员或者组内小团队负责某一个模块，蔡冰说舞是自己编的没问题，但确实有贪功的嫌疑，蔡冰说的自己是队长，以为自己说了算，浅台词是一种无奈寻求认同的语气，但翻译肯定翻译不出来这种心态。那么问题来了，你是觉得金多娟那种个人秀好，还是蔡冰的整体编排好。
なんでビーンちゃん好きになれないのか分かった…
実力が秀でてる訳でもないのに、やたらと自信があるからだわ💦
それに基本的に意見を譲らないし手柄を一人占めしようとするし(誰が振り付けを考えましたか？のところ)今回さらに苦手になった🥲
こういうタイプはリーダーやらない方がグループのためだと思う😭
そりゃキムドアもビックリだわ
Even though I was rooting for Team Ice Cream, I cant deny that this team’s performance was outstanding. It’s unfortunate that we had to see Cai Bing’s true colors but I’m glad members like Hyerim and Doah voiced out their opinions and won the benefit which they really needed.
Okayyyyyyyy -1 already fooled by mnet
新井理沙子ちゃんって
結構韓国語話せたんや！！！！
ダンスも良かったよー！
To all the cai bing stans in the comment who are defending her, stop making excuses. I have nothing against cai bing but this clearly isn't evil editing. If it was, the other members wouldn't have looked so clearly irritated and fed up, Doah also wouldn't have voiced out her opinion with such frustration as well.
Cai bing can't be excused from this, she has made many mistakes like rapping off beat, dancing too fast or too slow which the fandom and myself too have excused since of course, everyone makes mistakes. Not only has she made mistakes during salute's interim check, she refused to hear out her team, cried and manipulated them to stay as the main focus of the team and silenced them.
It also isn't a mistranslation. I am chinese and I can confirm what she said was completely accurate with the translation. Many chinese fans have also confirmed this.
She also tried to take all the credit from the other choreographers and told the judges as if she was the only one who came up with the whole dance. The judges would've believed her if it wasn't for the members telling the judge that it was a team effort. Also, she tried to steal the killing part and make it more complicated despite the majority of the team agreeing that Ji A should do it. She tried to negotiate with Ji A so she could still be the main focus and forced the team to proceed with practice and stop voicing out their opinions.
I really don't want this to sound harsh, but Cai Bing cannot debut if she clearly does not have intention of working with a team and demanding all the credit/attention to herself and only her.
💯💯💯 There are more girls with better attitude that deserve to debut. I hope she admits that her behavior is manipulative and fix it for her own sake.
i kinda sus with mnet editing with that scene. we know that cai bing is not good at Korean, and when the mentor asked who made the choreo, luo fei hand movement was pointed toward cai bing and then cai bing raised her hand, idk if there was some misunderstood so mnet could edited in certain way they wanted to be. gosh i have a huge trust issue with mnet
Agree, i cant imagine if she is in the debut team, she is so selfish😢 she has to fix her attitude.
@@Ann-vp4kd I don't think that is just the problem here. She's clearly overconfident of herself and makes a lot mistakes on stage since the first challenge. Even the masters are asking if she has improved but I don't think so either. Plus Chinese fluent peeps here claims that her words are really not that good and you can even see the frustration of her teammates. Evil edited or not, there's still a lot of DESERVING C-group trainees other than her.
@@yochikun5355 and your reply doesn't really answer my topic i was talking about. I was talking that one scene, when she raised her hand as if she claimed the choreo. There was a hole where mnet could twist it just to lead people opinion.
Imagine if someone (just called it XX) is a k1ll3r and all XX done is k1ll. But then getting accuse like stealing or other evil stuff, and everyone believes it right away.
One bad thing doesn't justify other bad thing is 100% true.
And about the other case, those word "im the leader" and translation thing. I cannot speak about it bcs I cant speak chinese. But yes I am disappointed about that.
You know someone is manipulative as heck when they use tears to get what they want
omfg, ikrr that's so annoying. i can relate much about doah and risako feels
@@anastasias1443 ikr..it really pisses me off
True…
Someone should’ve pulled one of the Master’s “don’t cry! THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO CRY” (i hope someone gets what i mean lol, the one she said to Ya Le)
I can see why the tears can be read as manipulative, but Cai Bing could’ve also been crying due to frustration. (Idk, just playing devil’s advocate lol. What she did was wrong either way.)
Yoon Jia deserves to debut. Hope she will make it.
doah face shows everything. they must have worked really hard. Many faces that look so tired
ドアちゃん厳しい意見も言うけど泣いちゃった時にはすぐに駆けつけて慰めてあげてるのが優しすぎる❕ドアちゃん頑張ろうね🤍
I don’t think this is evil edited any longer. She literally said thaaaaat- surely this kind of attitude isn’t acceptable to debut. Being a performer doesn’t mean you only have to be pretty and talented, you must know how to respect as well. Ego-centrism is probably inside of her rn.
im not sure why there's so many "Mandarin speakers" in the comment saying she said stuff she literally didn't. I'm not a Cai Bing fan so I have no stakes here, I only watched this because a friend asked me to translate the Chinese parts for her. At the end she didn't say "stop raising ur opinions". It only translates to that if you translate her sentence literally, which doesn't work very well with Chinese. A more accurate translation is like "can we just get a whole run-through without stopping"
Well she's actually just pretty. Talented, not so much. There are a bunch of girls who are way talented than her.
Stop saying “evil edit”
It’s not, Cai Bing being selfish. Jia and other girls did choreo too, but she mentioned only herself.
And be like “I’m the leader, I will do what I want”
So it’s not evil edit, she is just selfish and rude.
ahhh can u explain what happened? theres no sub i dont understand
@@cb6899 the members reaction still tell us that she said something bad
@@hhana5190 In intermission, the mentor ask who choreograph the dance and she said she is, well infact 4-5 (Jia,Doah etc) members also form the choreography, good thing doah spoke up and said that many of them create the choreo.
@@bulloskennethd.2948 damn when she is the leader??
ビーンちゃん今まで推してたけど、今日で一気にデビューしないで欲しいと思ってしまった。グループ活動が壊滅的に下手で残念。
KIM DAYEON managed to lead her team and choreographed everything while CAI BING messed up her team and even said she has no time to practice by herself even 4 of them helped to choreographed the performance... CAI BING is so self-centered and THIS CAME TO HER MEMBERS OPINIONS, she's a stubborn... she really want to keep the center role even JIA fits it... this ep. is very toxic to this team... but still they were the best and WON, kinda sad for ICE CREAM team and KIM DAYEON, and now I think I lost my interest to CAI BING while her fans are covering it up when it's too obvious it's not mistranslation.
The funniest thing in this clip is Kim Dayeon just chilling in the corner minding her own business then suddenly her 'rivals' are having an intense discussion
Ikr..
2:32 I couldn’t help but laugh when I saw dayeon in the back just minding her business with all this drama happening 💀
I'm watching the iqiyi version, cause they always translate Fu yaning words to make her look bad and maybe it happened here. But seeing all the members upset...idk if it's evil editing yall.
But they surely hate Chinese trainees. They never praise them and they're always the problematic ones in the team lol. Edit the translation is correct
cb stfu none of them said so all of them are saying that this is the correct translation and even if they were lying why were the members also complaining + she took credit for the choreography when she only made the intro
@@cb6899 no one said that LMAOOO
For everyone saying it’s a mistranslation:
“no one can defend this and say it’s a mistranslation, i’m a chinese speaker and she really did say that loud and clear.
to be more accurate, after she said “shes leader” in korean, she carried on saying “我觉得我说的最算” which means “i think my words weigh the most” and then she says “actually let’s not stop anymore, carry on, don’t voice your opinions anymore”.
word for word:
我觉得我做的可以/最算了>we can js take my words/my words weigh the most (she says it abit fast but its ard the same meaning)
其实不要在停了,继续,赶紧继续吧>don't stop any more continue, let's quickly continue
不要在提出任何意见了>don't bring up any opinions anym”
From @ilywg on twitter
@@ginachen8200 I'm still waiting to see the iqyi version, ppl on twitter can say what they want
@@francescasolarino6843 ok ms Francesca. I know that why did u have to let me know?
If Salute team had such a bad teamwork, they wouldn’t have won, think about it. Especially since Dayeon’s team had such a good teamwork. Something doesn’t quite add up. Remember that we’re still dealing with Mnet before you judge, that’s all I’m going to say.
Yeah totally ice cream team deserve more most of them improve lot
I think it's because you couldn't see that on stage, if you see their performance without all the messy leadership context you would think they did great and what's being judge is the stage perfomance not the context
Unluckily, the judges did not know about this situation and only care about their performance on stage
They have a good teamwork except the part that cai bing is the leader
@@wilsonlee1780 yeah. Judges only saw this now also. Judges aren't there 24/7 they only visit when they evaluate
i want my cai bing votes back
I think a lot of people think the same now
Yall are cancelling her too fast. We can't deny that she said those words which is wrong and very selfish as a leader but If you'd notice at the end, she listened to the opinion of the members like giving her center part to Ji Ah and let Luo Fei also do the choreo alone. Don't you think MNET's really playing with the minds of the people? If she didn't change, she would still have all the parts and her teammates wouldn't be on good terms with her but when they announced the winner, they all hugged Cai Bing. They only showed her mistakes and not when they resolved the issue and what happened behind the curtains.
I am on neither side. Both Cai Bing and Mnet was wrong. This is just my opinion.
Wait I dont think she gave up her part to Jia, at the end of the rehearsal she said she will do her best to lead her team and nail her killing part if u watched the whole episode. Its just the fact the Cai Bing's parts were not as appealing as Jia's whole performance
@@yeonslay7704 ok now Im confused. Why would she say she'll do good for the killing part after the rehearsal if she had given up on the position? How can they practice with the new positions in a short amount of time???
@@yeonslay7704 r u rlly sure this is accurate though😭😭 maybe the 2 photos were not the same parts of the choreo😭😭 (idk if u get it but i hope u do)
@@hanchijihi6626 after I saw the tweet, I think that they've resolved the issue and Cai Bing knew she showed a bad example as a leader? I was actually 100% convinced it wasn't an evil edit until I saw that tweet.
@@hanchijihi6626 it’s mnet, what do you expect? They can edit whatever part they want as long as it can cause a drama.
please get caibing out of your votes. in chinese and this was not a mistranslation at all. she literally told all of her members to stop talking and interrupting and continue practicing without giving anymore opinions. i’m sorry, but salute shouldn’t have won. doah and jia were the best in here, and props to doah who spoke up, please vote for her! this is not evil editing whatsoever. the team members have said their take, and it’s clear on what the situation is here. caibing claims she had no time to polish her moves but dayeon choreographed the ENTIRE dance and she did it perfectly. ice cream robbed. please please vote for dayeon
Please vote for Xu Ziyin!! Her performance in My Sea was amazing!!