[7회] 'We are Team! 같이 연습해야죠!' VVS팀의 어긋나는 팀워크?!
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- [7회] 'We are Team! 같이 연습해야죠!' VVS팀의 어긋나는 팀워크?!
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두명 다 무슨 마음인지 알 거 같아서 굳이 욕하고 싶지 않다..... 중국인 친구는 일단 스스로 부족한걸 알고 있으니까 제대로 익히고 나서 팀연습하고 싶었던 거 같고 한국인 친구는 팀미션이니 팀워크가 중요하다 생각했던 거 같고.. 더군다나 중국인 친구는 연습 내내 아팠다고 하니 욕하지 말고 그냥 의견이 안 맞았구나 이 정도로 끝냈으면 ㅠ.. 그리고 중요한건 결국 무대는 두명이 아니라 다른 일본인 친구 한명이 그나마 살렸다는거 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ큐ㅠㅠ
이거지 진짜 댓글 대부분이 량지아오 욕 하는 댓인데 너무 량지아오만 욕 하지 말자 ㅠㅠㅠ
이게 맞지 근데 역시 암넷인게 이것 또한 악편하고있음ㅋㅋ
둘다 맞는것같음 량지아오는 개인연습이 더 필요하다고 느낀것같고 이채윤은 합을 맞춰야한다고 느낀것같은데 어느 누구도 욕먹지 않았으면
ㅇㅣ ㅈㅓ
ㄴ ㅇ 합니다.
외퀴들은 중국애들 편만 드네 ㅋ
@@myung1214 댓글 기록만 봐도 어질어질하네 중국이랑 일본한테 열등감 느낄정도면 도대체 어떤 인생을 살고 있는거냐.... 널보면 피임에 중요성이 뭔지 알것같음....
@@이이이-i6k 한국이 일본이랑 중국한테 열등감 느끼지 어디나라한테 열등감느끼니? ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ니 인생 걱정이나 잘 하셔~갑자기 피임의 중요성 지랄하니까 웃기네 ㅋㅋ
그래서 이채윤 암지아오 둘다 떨어지고 코토네만 플래닛패스로 삼
악편은 악편이었나봄.. 둘이 떨어지고 네컷찍으러 갔던데..^^ 둘다에게 좋은 경험이었을 듯
이 시간 이전부터 부족한 연습시간에 개인적인 시간을 계속 쓰는 모습을 보여 멤버들이 힘들어하는 모습이 보였음. 그런것들이 쌓여가는 과정들이 더 있었고. 화장실만이 문제가아니었음. 저친구는 지금 채윤이만큼 무대의 완성도에 대한조바심이 없기때문임. .
도울 어떤 사람이 그랬나요? 그 사람보다 랑지아오가 위염에 더 심하게 걸렸을수도 있죠. 지금 그 쪽 말투에는 어떻게든 랑지아오를 까고싶어하는 의도가 보이네요
@도을 위염이 아니고 맹장염입니다
약을 먹던가 좀
뭐 아파서 화장실 가거나 물 마시는 개인 사정은 어쩔 수 없지만 진짜 개인 연습은 자기가 잠 잘 시간을 쪼개서 하던가 밥 먹을 시간을 쪼개서 하던가 숙소 가서 쉴 시간을 쪼개서 알아서 개인 연습을 해야 맞는 거지 단체로 모였을 땐 단체 연습을 해야지 자꾸 자신이 부족한 걸 단체 때 채우려는 건 잘못된 거 맞음 팀원이 저러면 진짜 답답허다
이채윤 속터지는 소리 여기까지 들림 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
근데 방송이라서 그렇게 보이는 거지 실제로는 되게 사이좋은
와중에 대결 팀인데 옆에서 얘기 들어주고 있는히카루랑 수연이 랑 한분더 이름 까먹어서 모르겠지만 무튼 그분도 착해 ㅠㅠ
양쯔거입니다
@@뿡빵뿡빵-l1u 앗 맞아요! 감사합니다!! 그분도 넘 착하세요ㅠㅠ
양쯔거 ㅠㅠㅠ
I felt like the language barrier was really evident in this team.
Liang jiao going to the bathroom again and again, I had two thoughts, "does she have diabetes....yk it might be you never know right" and "she's crying in the bathroom that has got to be the case"
I really felt the lack of communication due to the difference in languages, which ofc affected their practice too
But I really liked how Liang jiao was so proud of their perf at the end tho, like YAS YOU GO GIRLLL
Liang Jia was like that because she had appendicitis like why is MNET not mentioning this on the episode instead of making it seems like she is irresponsible she could not help but go to the bathroom but could not say why...Her sister went live and exposed MNET
3P's of diabetes
@@dw3214 oooohhh so that's the reason. I honestly have been quite sceptical about "mnet's evil editing" being true but if she had appendicitis and they still decided to edit the member's reactions in that way.... Damn I might start believing "mnet's evil editing" being real now....
@@dw3214 Don't you always pee when you drink water?
@@我不不不出去 you should know something is up when someone is going to the bathroom more than usual
対決するチームなのに、話し合いの仲介？してるスヨンちゃんひかるちゃんスーグァちゃんの優しさも見えたシーンだったなぁ…
江崎ひかるはもはや優しさの魂ですね★
ひかるちゃん本当に優しくて、実力もあって、本当に素敵で大好きです❤︎
結局琴音ちゃんの分量増えないのね、
投票で救うしかない！！！琴音ちゃんファイト🔥
I have been voting for kotone. She deserves to debut.
다시보니까 악편이 너무 많은데?
랑지아오는 저때 아팠어서 자주 화장실가게되고 그러다보니 팀연습에 계속 피해만 끼치게 되고 자신도 그걸 아니까 일부러 개인연습하자고 했는데 상황을 잘 모르던 팀멤버들은 답답하고 화나기만 한 상황이었죠... 상황을 모르니까 그럴수있는데 제작진은 상황을 알텐데 저따구로 편집을 하면 서바이벌에서 과연 얼마나 살아남을까...
I like how hikarus group came over to comfort them, being good older sisters
Yess see like chaeyun going to ask them for help
Yes, and Yang Zige as the interpreter for Jiao.
Let us all be real here, evil editing does play a part here and what we lack is Liang Jiao's POV and interview on why she was visiting the bathroom so frequently and why she felt the need to practice alone. But, I feel like all of them really failed in teamwork and communicating with each other. The language barrier makes truthful communication even more important. They are all not only learning performing skills in this show but life lessons too as young teenage girls who are barely adults (or just turned 18) and i hope they realised their mistakes through the lens of an audience/outsider.
She wanted to practice alone because she has to have her own part down before she can incorporate it into the groups performance it was nice to see a mentor do there job for once because the language barrier led to a lack of leadership
She was dealing with gastroenteritis and lost a lot of weight due to stress... I think she wanted time to practise alone first because she wasn't confident in herself and her performance but couldn't communicate that with her group. Her sister also said that they had asked for a translator because they were previously experiencing communication issues but Mnet ignored their request. This situation makes me so sad because now K-netz will villainise her :(
she went to the bathroom several times because she had gastroenteritis and is really sick....
@@skohn76 pretty sad that the mentor only came up AFTER the dress rehearsal though
엠넷에서 악편을 하였다면 그건 잘못한 부분이 맞지만 모든 프로그램이 편집을 시청률을 위해서 조금씩 하기는 한다고 생각 합니다.근데 문화의 차이로 이해하기 힘든 부분이 있는것도 있다고 생각합니다.하지만 량지아오님은 건강상의 문제가 아니더라도 실력이 많이 부족한게 보이는 부분이 많았다고 생각합니다.그리고 한국오디션이면 당연히 한국 프로그램에 한국 시청자가 주 시청자 입니다.
그러면 당연히 한국 노래를 하는게 그리고 한국말을 하는게 맞는거 아닌가요!?…오히려 저는 이번 오디션을 보면서 중국에서 일본에서 몇몇 연습생들 빼고는 다들 준비가 안되어서 왔구나 하는 생각을 많이 했습니다.애초에 한국말을 한국노래를 생각 없이 오는게 이상하다고 생각하고 준비 되어 있는 연습생이 잘하는거는 당연 한겁니다. 본인들도 중국에서 오디션하면은 중국말로 노래 부르지 않나요??똑같은 겁니다..본인 나라사람아라고 다 편들어주는 모습이 옳은 행동 같지는 않네요
동의합니다.. 생존과 탈락이 걸린 미션에서 해보지도 않은 랩을 천진난만하게 선택한 것부터 좋게보지 않았고.. 채윤이가 눈물을 흘릴만큼 스트레스를 받은 걸 보면 엠넷이 그닥 악마의편집이라고 생각되지 않네요 무대 망쳐놓고 자기가 무대를 찢었다는 식으로 표현하는 것도 너무 어리고 무례한 것 같아요 량지아오님! 같은 유닛으로 활동했던 K,C 그룹생들은 그쪽이 편하게
대했던 쌍둥이언니가 아니에요ㅠㅠ 다음 팀에선 예의를 갖추고 행동하시길..
ㄹㅇ 한국말도 모르면서 뭔 케이팝 스타가 되겠다고 나참 ㅋㅋ
when jiao makes a mistake, the judges laugh. she prolly chose the rap song to prove herself. i think jiao knows no one takes her seriously and that sets her back.
you can't take someone who raps with a baby voice seriously
@@jkgosolo in the final stage is sounded good tho...I think if she started with the same confidence it would have been better
@@jkgosolo what does voice have to do with skill? you're just shallow:)
@@jkgosolo get a life
R u talking about this video? Cuz jiao didn't make any mistake in here. The judges smiled only because vvs team were very cute when they r rapping.
リャンジャオが何回もトイレ行くのは生理現象だからいいけどチェユンが泣いて「私たちチームだよ」って訴えてるんだからリャンジャオが協調性に欠けてるのは悪編じゃなく事実だと思う
채윤아!항상 열심히하고 있는모습 보기좋다!!팬들이 옆에서 항상 응원하고 있으니깐 최선을 다해!!!
まっじで琴音ちゃんの分量どうなってんの！！
굳이 아픈거 알려주지도 않고 냅다 화장실 다녀오는 것만 보여줘....
1:52ひかるちゃん「ずんずんだんだん」言ってるw
ことねちゃんの分量は結局増えなかったね…何とも言えない気持ち…
이때 량자오는 몸이 안 좋은 상태인데 그것을 아마 다른 팀원들에게 잘 전하지 못한것 같아.. 혼자서 연습을 하고 싶었던 것도 자기만 못한다고 생각해서 혼자 연습하고 싶었던 것 충분히 이해를 하겠지만 어려서 그생각이 할 수 없었던걸까?
I didn't like how the "mentors" laugh every single time Jiao tries to do anything. I get it, she's the ultimate cutie but if they laugh all the time she'll feel that no one takes her seriously and that would take a toll on her. Despite it all, her performance wasn't as "silly" as they made it seem. She actually did good.
for real
It’s been that way since the twins’ first appearance. It’s laughing by judges or comedy relief soundtrack. They seem to have been chosen as the show’s clowns and it’s pretty consistent.
@@Frank_San_Nicolas I mean if they were the one who chose to do the audition like that, then it's hard for them to get rid of the first impression they made, even on me as a viewer huhu
@@Frank_San_Nicolas qiao proved herself on her 5th season performance. She's not cute there at all. It's a shame she was eliminated.
The mentors did what the audience would. They're judges, if you wanna be taken seriously then act like it. I know I'm being harsh ya'll but this is a survival show.
Liang Jiao literally lost weight because of the stress she felt preparing the rap. She really worked hard so I hope she won't be misunderstood because of evil editing. You worked hard Liang Jiao!
how do u know? where was it?
@@tt4679her sister Liang Qiao went live a few days ago and revealed a few things about mnet and Liang Jiao. This included her saying that Liang Jiao suffered from gastroenteritis (which would explain her going to the toilet a lot of times) and also losing weight due to the stress.
@@tt4679 her sister exposed mnet in a live stream
@@Ssoonforlife Oh my...poor Jiao, mnet is taking piss of her health problem
@@Ssoonforlife i think she got too overly stressed that she didnt have any appetite to eat.. N also maybe her twin sis isnt there to comfort each other.. She shud have tell her teammates about her gastic problems instead of making them worry, Ikno it's a language barieer, but still...
これを悪編っていう英語のコメント多くてびっくり、、、😅練習中通訳いないのはプデュ48の時もそうだったし、これからグループで活動していくから当たり前だと思う。胃腸炎とかあったのかもしれないけどチェユンちゃん泣いちゃってるし、協調性がなかったのは間違いない
多分英語のコメントのほとんどは中国人だと思うので、リャンジャオを庇ってるんでしょうね…チェユン泣いてるし、これは悪編ではないですよね。事実をそのまま放送しただけ。
@@nonoyan7 تقصد ان الصينين يدافعون لجياو؟
@@Icyxl ？？？？？？？😌
@@nonoyan7
I think RUclips has a translator…
@@Icyxl RUclips has a translation function, but the text you sent me is not translated.
고래 싸움에 고래 등 터진다의 표본. 채윤과 지아오가 대립했지만 결국 가장 주목받은 건 코토네였다...
@@김해인-k7m ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㄹㅇ
このチームも他のチームも、実際に他のメンバーが戸惑ってたり困ってたわけだから中国メンバーがたくさんうつってた=悪編は違うと思う。
体調が悪いのは仕方がないしトイレは正直なんとも思わないけど、自分の意思を曲げないことが気になった。周りの意見を聞いて受け入れることも大事だし同じことばかり言われたらそりゃ泣いちゃうよ。
ことねイエップダで注目されてたからもっとラップに関して褒められるの楽しみにしてたのになんか台無しにされたような気持ち…
別の練習風景動画では3人とも本当に仲良さそうだっただけにこの動画は見てて辛い…
장염 걸렸었다는데 아픈 건 어쩔 수 없잖아요,, 악플은 그만 남깁시다
장염 걸렸다는 말은 처음 들어봐요.
@@jw-sq5cg 서치나 해보세요.
I'm just saying, nobody goes to the bathroom that much unless they're EXTREMELY stressed out/need to cry but can't do it in front of other people. I really hope Liang Jiao is okay mentally.
It's okay she will go back to China on the next elimination
she had gastroenteritis that’s why she went to the bathroom a bunch of times
@@ImMrMeeseeksLookAtMe im sorry but what is this type of sickness?
liang qiao said in a live That liang jiao lost weight and got stomach illnesses due to having the pressure of rapping 🙁
@@sarahj8678 stomach flu I believe
2人に迷惑かけることが嫌だから追いつくために個人練習したいと言ったってコメントあるけど、泣いて合わせたいと訴えている時点で本番近いときだったんだなと思う…個人練習したい気持ちもわかるけどその時じゃなかったんよ…
ジャオちゃん胃腸炎やったんか😭
大変な中がんばったよ…
3人ともお疲れ様🥺✨
琴音ちゃんなんとか残ってくれ〜🙏🙏🙏
It’s obvious that Jiao lost so much weight because of this performance. mnet is evil editing her by showing her going to the toilet everytime during practice but not revealing the reasons behind? Imagine being so sick and still practicing together? She doesn’t wants to drag her team down and mnet just evil edit like that? seriously? Bruh how to burn mnet
これは悪編ではないと思うなぁ。チェユンが泣いて訴えてるのは事実だし、その内容もチームで練習したいってちゃんと言ってるから、そう思わせるようなことしたのは間違いない。胃腸炎ならそれをチームのみんなに伝えるべきだし、言語の壁があってストレスなら韓国語も話せる中国人の練習生に、ストレスで胃腸炎なんだって、それだけでも伝えるべきだったよね。
琴音の分量🎥ほんまどこ行った🙁？？
家にかえさないよ🏠！！投票がんばる！！💪
이채윤 말이 맞지 한 두번도 아니고 연습하자 할 때마다 뭐 하겠다 이러겠다 이러면 그사람 입장에선 저러는 게 맞지 않겠나..게다가 시간도 얼마 없는데 부족한 실력에 애초에 팀이 같이 사는 문제인데 저렇게 나오면 난 더 화날 듯 이채윤 힘내숑🖤
량지아오 위장염 때문에 간거고 팀에 지장줄까봐 배려해서 개인연습 하겠다고 한건데 엠넷이 뭐가 그리 꼴보기 싫었는지 악편으로 량지아오 보낼려고 한거애요 ㅠㅠ
@ᄋᄋ 아픈것도 저기선 실력일텐데
@ᄋᄋ 그건 맞지 근데 마스터들이 합도 안맞다 함,...랩이 합이 맞고 가팅 연습해야지
شياو قالت ان Mnet تظهر فقط لقطات التوتر والغضب ولا تظهر لقطات الصداقه بينهم
@@user-db9tm5ve9v 안 아파도 못해요ㅠㅠ 저 때 살아남은 참가자중에 실력만으론 꼴찌ㅠㅠ
理由があるからしょうがないって言うのも分かるけど、じゃあメンバーが「集中できてない」と感じたりチェユンちゃんが泣きながら訴えた姿は何なのっていう話よ
ジャオちゃんがトイレ何回も行ってたのは胃腸炎とかストレスでだったっての見て泣きそうになった
韓国の子が泣いてたのはなんだったのか知ってますか？？このグループ１回目の時から、中国の方が、不思議ちゃんみたいに写ってましたが。。
@@筋肉あかちゃ
チェユンちゃんがチームのことを思ってチーム練習したいと訴えかけていたシーンはほんとに胸が苦しいです。。しかもチームのマンネなのに相当勇気がいると思います…私は今回のシーンを見てチェユンちゃんに投票しようって思いました
ジャオちゃんが上手くできなくて1人で練習したくなるのも分かるし、でもチームだからチーム練習が大事で琴音ちゃんとチェユンちゃんの気持ちもわかるし見てて胸が苦しかったです。。
どこ情報ですか？？
@@牛タン塩-f2w 双子の脱落した方がライブ配信で言ってました
この流れからのwe are teamほど染みるもんないわ、、、
They lacks teamwork, and i know how it is like. Jiao was going to the bathroom again and again because she was crying there for multiple times fighting with her own disease (Shout out to all of you guys for correcting me!). Chaeyun was crying too because Jiao wanted to train by her own. Kotone was giving up being a leader because she couldn't make their teammates to stop bickering to each other. In my experience for being a leader in a group, Kotone should make everyone let it all out. They have any rights to cry because this is their first time doing a full rap in front of a RAPPER, but they shouldn't give up just yet. A little pep talk or letting the teammates confide in would be a great job. But i'm proud of them was doing a great job on the stage, despite it was being their first time rapping.
I think lead was chaeyun
Jiao had gastroenteritis because she was very worried about this performance, that's why she went to the bathroom several times
THE OTHER TWIN WENT LIVE AND EXPOSED MNET. LIANG JIAO HAD GASTRO problems THAT IS WHY SHE WAS LIKE THAT...Now this is true evil editing.
@@hanbeulkim agree
jiao was sick
周りを心配させまいとして、胃腸炎のこと言わなかった、言えなかったんじゃないかという推測もあるけど…
チームなんだし、「こういう状態だけど全力を尽くすね」と話してた方が、よっぽど周りも配慮しやすかったんじゃないかと思えてしまうほど、so badな雰囲気でしたね…
まぁカミングアウトしてても、今度はそれを理由に、何かにつけて自分の意見を通そうとするなら、それまでの相手だね。
この流れは残念だったけど、琴音ちゃん応援してます！
体調悪いとか本当の事は誰にもわからないから何とも言えないけど、雰囲気悪いのは伝わるしso bad👎👎って言った所は何か悲しい
周りに迷惑かけたくないからこその個人でもっと発語やリズムを覚えたいのかなとも見えるけど、周りとの調和を考えないと行けないタイミングは今後のアイドル生活にも大切だよなぁってみていて切なくなります💔 集中してもトイレは仕方ない💧…のかなぁ 熱意の差はあるかもなぁって娘をみる気持ちになりました
トイレに行って泣いていたのかなとも思いました😢😢どちらにしても編集少し悪意ありますよね。。
@@moe13314 編集の仕方 ほんとにみていてツラいですね(´TωT｀) こんな編集しなくても観るのになぁ
@@seay8549 間違いないです。。みんな報われて欲しいと思ってしまいます。。。
ストレスで胃を悪くしていたようです。
もしかしたら吐いていたのかもしれませんね。
心配かけまいとそのことも言わなかったのかもしれませんね。
@@solbianca. であればまるで心配をせずにため息ついてる風に観せるあとの二人にも編集的には切なさが残りますね(｡-_-｡) 体調管理なんて10代の子には難しいでしょうに、みんながんばりすぎててすごいな、えらいなってキュンとします(´TωT｀) 個人練習が悪い訳では無いですよね、コミュ不足。韓国語分からないけど歩み寄れたらもっとよかった💦
You know what's heartwarming on this? The other team (Hikaru, Suyeon and Zige) came forward to VVS team when they could just ignore it so they could settle on their own. It's also worth noting that they also have CKJ members like Chaeyun's. It sucks how language barrier could affect them negatively but for sure outside of this show, they could be good friends.
결국 무대는 코토네가 살렸는데 이게 다 무슨 의미인가....
마지막에 이채윤 위로할 때 no excuses 팀 자연스럽게 껴있는 거 개웃기네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 누가보면 한 팀인 줄
I like how the comments supporting jiao and informing everybody's about the evil editing of mnet... Sorry mnet you can't fool us, we know the truth about jiao
Purrrr!
Watching this scene was definitely a twist, especially coming from Jiao's fancam being the second most popular by the end of the week. I wish context was given from Jiao's perspective-why she felt that she needed to practice alone, and distance herself from the group. Because from the way the episode was edited, you'd almost think she was self-sabotaging the performance.
The best I can say is that Jiao, and maybe Qiao too, were dead set in debuting together? And Jiao finds it difficult to adjust to this new dynamic? I legit don't know. If Jiao passes this round, there's going to be a lot of loose ends to tie on this I think.
I believe the reason why she distanced herself was because she became sick due to too much stress. That's why she was going to the bathroom constantly. Her sister had mentioned all of this in a live. I do hope that if this falls through, they find a way to debut together though!
Me too I dont get whats wrong with going to the bathroom...Even in the beginning we saw them crying the twins so obviously she did not want to cry and that being on-camera and the bathroom is the only place there are no cameras...Honestly rapping in another language is worse than signing...In the end she did very well in her team but yeah I think overall all 3 lacked confidence and experience
@@ranac8412 Right, I was reading the comments about her gastro problems. Which begs the question why MNet didn't show any reason why.
Maybe Jiao herself never conveyed the reason, but damn Jiao was shown almost being selfish here, which again, I'm sure is not the case.
jiao was sick
@@dw3214 she was sick
正直チェユンちゃんと琴音ちゃんの気持ちを考えたら、ちょっと擁護はできないかな…みんな表で言ってないだけで体調悪くても迷惑かからないように管理してただろうし。
Every team did amazing, but mnet's editing leads to comparison.
Liang Jiao clearly had health related problems going on which is why she was going to the bathroom so much and she wanted to communicate with her team mates about something and you can tell that from the end of the clip when she was asking help from another trainee. I also don't think she meant she didn't want to practice with them. She knew she sounded bad and wanted to make sure her parts sounded better and she was trying to communicate that too.
梁嬌練習壓力太大腸胃炎，幾天沒吃飯瘦了很多，但是完全沒有放出來⋯節目卻剪了她一直去廁所，還感覺不想跟團隊練習⋯但其實她是因為自己練不好才想要自己一個人先把自己的part練好⋯😢😢
真的是幸好小喬直播有在節目播出之前有說他腸胃炎....
@@xxyeehanxx 是啊😭
為何梁嬌的隊友會哭呢？誰能跟我說一下@@
@@minyuuu7746看起來是因為大喬想要自己練習但那個韓國妹妹覺得整個團體就應該要一起練（可是實際上她是不是因為這個哭我也不知道XD 也有可能是剪的）
@@beau_bunny0116 這樣啊！我以為隊友崩潰之類的@@
ジャオちゃんがトイレ行く分量あるならこんだけラップ上手い琴音ちゃんと歳上の子に言いにくいことちゃんと言ったチェユンに分量分けてくれ
ガチでそれなですチェユンちゃんほんとに頑張ったと思います…🥲
단순히 개인 단체 연습 중 우선시 하는 게 달라서도 있겠지만. 량지아오는 자기 랩부터가 랩 다음 단계인 단체 동선과 무대 퍼포먼스를 연습할 만큼의 퀄리티가 되지 않았다고 생각했던 것 같음. 가수가 노래 멜로디도 잘 모르는데 무대 퍼포먼스 동선부터 정할 수는 없으니... 채윤이는 그래도 지금 이미 모였으니 단체를 짜는 게 맞다고 생각하는 거겠고. 양쪽 다 이해 감
she had gastroenteritis that’s why she went to the bathroom a bunch of times.liang qiao said in a live That liang jiao lost weight and got stomach illnesses due to having the pressure of rapping 🙁
Rewatching this clip and mnet really left us on a cliffhanger with this group. We never got to see whether the situation was resolved but instead it's made out to seem like the girls were just on bad terms right until the performance. I feel bad for each girl but liang jiao definitely didn't have any malicious intentions... we're only seeing what mnet wants us to see.
apparently jiao and chaeyun became friends and even visited each other in their countries
Liang Jiao visiting the bathroom very frequently could be because of a medical condition. so yall better be nice in the comments. however the main issue is poor teamwork and differences in skill between the members. Liang Jiao chose a rap song for a language she wasnt fluent in. Chaeyun wasnt a good fit for the song either. To add, the communication issues made things more frustrating. i feel bad for Kotone she was literally the backbone of this group. She remained levelheaded during conflict and was the best rapper in the team if we're being honest lmao. Compared to Wen-zhe, Bora and Manami i can see why the judge said the final performance wasn't good.
they were low ranks and didn't have much choices left, just saying.
@@d2boysg lower ranked members like hyerim and wenzhe didn't have much choices yet still performed better so uhhh
@@d2boysg Their ranking are higher than the one on we are team lol, Liang Jiao literally pick this song because she want to challenge herself while Chaeyun think the song is good so she pick it
I get that there will be conflict within the groups, but....mnet's evil editing is just so awkward I can't even watch a second of it. What's up with crapping on the C group trainees? Scared that they're self-confident or wat?
Yes exactly
C group are particularly made to look bad.
I was even thinking there was some kind of prejudice against them
HIKARU, SUYEON AND ZIGE COMFORTING OTHER TEAM😍
Please vote for them
チェユンには頑張って欲しいな。。。
パスに選ばれますように。。。
히카루 착하네 먼저와서 이야기 들어주고
C-trainees we’re really put on the spot in this week’s ep… first Ya Le, then Liang Jiao and Cai Bing
2:59 チェユンちゃんが泣きながら「힘들어 진짜..(しんどい、ほんとに､､)」って言ってるの見て、意見聞こうとするどころか、ヤンズーグァちゃんに自分の意見ばっか言ってるのはさすがに､､😔
채윤아 진짜 고생했다....ㅠ
結局琴音の分量増えない…どうなってるの？？？ことね推しから見たらほんとに辛い😭ことねよく頑張ったよ！！
誰も悪くないけど、チェユンの言ってる事がごもっともすぎる。
ことねちゃんもっと褒められて欲しかった、
Here we go again, Mnet evil editing
Mnet: All C-group are all psychopaths. Either swearing at the mentors, or grabbing the c-position/ killing part, or poor strength, or just making excuses. Unlike us Koreans who are kind and high in EQ, everyone votes for K-group now!!!
SNAKE MNET!!!!
Yap cai bing jiao yale mnet evil editing
Bruh not a fan of anyone in this team but Jiao's sister(Qiao) said Jiao had stomach flu so she had to use the restroom frequently. Also, Jiao probably asked someone who speaks Korean to translate her condition to her teammates but everyone knows Mnet will edit it out in the show. IT IS NORMAL FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE DIFFERENT PRACTICE PACES & STYLES. They need communication and they probably resolved it before the performance. Still, Mnet will edit it out. Same for other teams which mostly the Chinese participants got evil edited.
Liang Qiao revealed in live that Jiao is experiencing gastroenteritis. That’s why Jiao was frequently going to the bathrooms. Qiao also said that her sister is losing so kuch weight from the stress.
Is nobody gonna mention how Mnet makes the C group the villain every single episode? Fu Yaning, Wang YaLe, Liang Jiao and Cai Bing????
I know crazy how they glorify the K group as hard working, team players and gifted then the C group as individualist, mean, selfish or goofy and for the J group they're just invicible, always comparing them with the other groups.
Like what is the point of this show?
Truee even zige in ezaki group also caused a drama i thinking why this episode all C-group being a villain 🗿 mnet really love to make C-trainne as her dramas and scripted
But the attitude not in script right.. they show themselves.. I must say if one group have c member in a top ranking.. their group not have any chemistry and the tension in the group we can feel it.. other group so much fun when practice
저때 량지아오 아파서 화장실 계속 간건데 엠넷이 이따구로 만드네
근데 내가 풀방송 안봐서 그러는 걸수도 있는데 이채윤이 량지아오한테 뭐라할 입장은 아니었던듯....본인은 팀연습이 더 필요하다 느꼈을 수 있지만 본인도 개인연습 더 필요해보임. 팀의 합을 맞추는 거 필요하지만 본인의 무대를 더 잘하는것도 중요하지. 그리고 상황이 안 풀렸을때 울고 그러는 모습이 그럴수 있긴 한데 역시 좀 어리다 싶달까.... 사람들이 이채윤 안쓰럽다 그러고 량지아오만 욕하는데 내가 본 것들로 보면 꼭 그렇지도 않은듯. 만약에 둘이 입장 바뀌었으면 그때는 또 량지아오 욕했겠지. 실력도 없는데 왜 팀연습부터 하려하느냐, 왜 우느냐 등등
즉 내말은 이채윤 안쓰럽다 그러고 량지아오만 욕하는 거 이해 안된다, 걍 량지아오가 중국인이라 그런거 아닌가 이거임.
누가 더 낫다 그러거나 편드는 건 아님.
량지아오팬인데요 솔직히 예딩이님말이 맞아요 량지아오는 위장염으로 인해 화장실에 많이 가거나 언어가 힘들어서 화장실에가서 우는거같아요 이채윤은 한국인이라 언어의 불편의 없겠지만 량지아오는 많이 불편한것같아요..
So true!
량지아오가 잘못안한건 알겠는데 댓글 절반이 채윤님 비판하는 글이더라고요 그리고 개인연습 얼겠어요 개인연습 할 시간 쉴때마다 하면 되고 이건 팀이에요 팀이 뭐에요 같이 이끌어 나가고 그러는게 팀이지 다른 아이돌 봐요 개인 연습한다고 떳떳하게 말해서 하는 사람있나요?
@@신소영-t6e 아이돌하고 연습생은 달라요 그리고 전문가조차도 개인연습이 승산이 있다고 했습니다
맞아요. 이팀은 개인연습을 했어야 합니아. 누구 한 명 잘한 사람이 없었다는게 그 증거고요
채윤언니 힘들었겠다..이제는 편히 발뻗고 자도 괜찮아요오!
i feel really bad for Liang Jiao, she is going through a lot mentally and physically and made into a bad team member. We do not know why she is going to the washroom, to cry/to gather herself away from cameras or a medical issue. When the twins cried their face was blasted for everyone to see so its understandable if she needs to leave the room when she is struggling. They do not want give her a chance to explain herself because mnet wants her eliminated for next week
ジャオちゃんに分量あげるなら実力のある琴音ちゃんに分量あげてって言う人いるけど、正直ジャオちゃんの方が個性あるからテレビ的にも追いたいのかなって思うわ。サバイバルオーディションってこういうもんでしょ
I'm happy because wen zhe in we are team. She can make the mood change to be more chic
体調悪かったのにわざとそれを少しも出さずに編集したなら、100%番組が悪いなと思う…でも、姉妹が番組期間中にスポ的な事を話すのはタブーなのでは……？ 上手くコミュニケーションが取れなかった事を全てリーダーの責任にするのはあまりにも酷すぎる。あと、チェユンちゃんが泣いたところの原因は体調の件とはあまり関係ないように思える。1人で出来ないことをチームでやるんだよね？
中国の子だけ、自由で言葉通じない感じが。。韓国と日本の子が、呆れてると言うか困惑して黙ってる感じが一回目から出てたと言うか…
三人が同じ位置にいない感じが、、韓国の子が喋ってるのに聞いてない感じもして、コミュニケーションってお互いの言葉分からなくても理解しようと言う姿勢が大切なのでは？！ジェスチャーや顔やいくらでも、、、でも中国の子リーダーなのに聞く姿勢ないと言うか、やる前から思ってたけど、不思議ちゃん感すごく出てたから、リーダー初めから向いてない性格なんじゃ。。。
@@筋肉あかちゃ リーダーは日本の子です。琴音ちゃんがリーダーとしてダメだったみたいなコメントがあったので、それは違うんじゃない？という意見が私のコメントです。
@@lilly6247 そうだったんですね！最初から手を上げてリーダーやるみたいな感じに見えたので、、、誰か翻訳してくれないかな。。。
@@筋肉あかちゃ Abemaで無料でも翻訳字幕付きが見れると思います。翻訳で意味を理解してからコメントした方が色んな誤解を生まないと思います。
우리가 사람들을 막 평가해도 될지 모르겠다;;
이 영상은 편집된 영상이라 정확하게 평가할 수도 없고 우리는 보는 입장인데 사람에게 상쳐주는 말은 하는 것은 삼가하는게 좋겠다🤍 쨋든 량자오❤이채윤❤코토네 응원할게요💖
They slay it though, even if all three of them fits cute concept more. If they do "very, very", people gonna faint from their cuteness. The short haired korean girl obviously cry because she cares so much and don't know what to do since she's young. And Jiao probably go to the toilet to practice since to learn something that's hard for her require total concentration (and the room full of people and noise might not support that) or she might've drink too much water (because her head need oxygen in the H2O).
I personally think they handled it very well and even manage to slay the performance despite their hardships. It's amazing.
チェユン泣いてる時にそばにいる子、
ひかる？？
チェユン応援してるよ~📣
ひかるちゃんもいます！😊
No excuse のグループですね！！
キム・スヨンちゃんですね！
ひかる、ズーグァ、スヨンです💞💞
코토네 너무 귀엽다
귀어워
Lmao mnet is funny and must've thought that we only love Liang Twins because they are twins and entertaining. Evil editing LiangJiao won't do anything to us, we won't hate her and make a big deal out of bathroom break. She has gastroentritis and she asked for a translator so Chaeyun and Kotone knows what's happening, yet mnet ignored her request and proceeds on evil editing her.
kotone, you did well ❤️
I feel bad for VVS team, at this point, I'm only mad at whoever's managing shit behind the scenes. Also a bit annoyed at the mentors, kinda stumped as to what they're there for, but I have to keep in mind that they're subject to editing, too.
I just wish the girls have a decent relationship still. It seems that they managed to resolve it and Kotone did really well! Jiao improved a lot and I think Chaeyun is more than capable, but she's too nervous and it showed :(
隣で練習してたひかるちゃんとズーグァちゃん、スヨンちゃんも来てくれてたんだね。見逃してたけど。
リャンジャオちゃんはお腹壊してたとか、ストレスで体重減ったとか、色々噂あるよね。
チームなのに一人で練習したいって言いだしたことで、望みを絶たれたみたいに思った気持ちも分かるし、でも迷惑かけるから一人で、って思ったとこもあったのかも？
제일 어린 채윤이가 다 하면 어떡해 ..
they way jiao sounds cute so she decided to talk loudly for several days before so her voice can become hoarse- i feel like the mentors didnt take her seriously
I’m done with MNET being a snake. I just fell in love with LJ bcs of VVS performance, and no matter how bad they tryna frame her, I’d still support her 😂
MNET THE DRAMA QUEEN
mnet evil editing.Liang Jiao was in bad condition because of appendicitis.mnet Why didn't you cut it in? ?🙄
What ep did she mention that?
How did you know?
@softxglia- yes,i don't know why mnet be so cruel to cgroup
@@amore-xv7zn her sister exposed mnet on a live
@@amore-xv7zn Liang qiao have a live and she said.
LIANG JIAO DEBUT
솔직히 아무리 악편을 했다하더라도 이건 잘못한 건 잘못한거임...
이게 개인전이면 뭐라 말 할 수가 없는데 이건 개인전이 아니라 팀전임. 팀전은 팀이랑 어울려서 협동도하고 팀워크를 보여줘야 하는데 저렇게 물 떠오겠다느니 화장실 가겠다느니 그것도 모잘라서 팀들한테 개인연습한다고 하면 솔직히 화낼 수밖에 없음. 나같았어도 화냈을 것 같음.
아무리 같은 나라 사람이라도 현실적으로 생각해야됨. 자기가 케이팝 아이돌하고 싶어서 한국에 와서 걸스플래닛에 참여한 거 아니에요? 그럼 한국이든 일본이든 서로 팀을 어울려서 하는 게 맞음.
한 사람 때문에 팀이 어긋나서 탈락하면 손해가 더 큰법임. 솔직히 이걸 본방송을 봤을 때 한숨밖에 안 나왔음
량지아오 위장염 때문에 돌아다닌건고 개인연습 한다고한건 팀에 지장 줄까봐 개인연습 한다고 한거에요 ㅠㅠ
@@user-db9tm5ve9v 그건 그건지만 솔직히 저렇게만 보면 팀한테 피해주는 것밖에 안 보여요... ;;
이팀은 개인연습이 필요했습니다..
도대체 뭔 합을 맞출 것도 없드만
왜 단체연습을 고집한건지..
서로 이끌어줄 실력도 없드만..
@@카사로랑 물론 개인연습도 많이 필요하죠... 그래도 일방적으로 개인연습만 고집하는 건 좀 그렇다는 거죠. 중간점검에서도 이제 마스터들에게 좋지 않은 얘기를 들었으니 오히려 더 걱정했기 때문에 합을 먼저 마추자는 의견이고요.
Getting frustrated at how c-trainees are being painted on this show. If you can’t treat everyone objectively, don’t invite them over and call this a global girl group show. Shame that you’re using them for clout.
I feel like they needed someone older in the group to guide them. They are all under age. It’s too much pressure especially because they dont speak the same language
ジャオちゃん体調悪いのは仕方ないにしろグループでやるなら協調性が足りないよなぁ
2人が気使いすぎてる
In 2:52 you can see that jiao use dictionary to practise. She's trying so hard until she sick...that's why she always went to toilet. She also didn't eat because of stress. Liang qiao exposed that mnet doesn't have a translator so it must be very hard for foreign trainees. I understand why chaehyun cried..she must be very frustrated because of jiao.
I think jiao fits dancer than rapper because that's her strong point ofcourse. Even if she want to become a rapper that will took long I guess, especially when you need to rap in other language.
Btw mnet really evil edit many chinese trainees, why tho? Sorry for my eng
Before everyone hates on liang jiao, let me straight it out, liang jiao kept going to the bathroom because she was sick,but mnet made it look like she didn’t care at all, Also you never know maybe liang jiao practiced in the bathroom or worst cried because she was frustrated, Overall she did amazing tho, Mnet did her dirty
チェユンちゃん😭
Liang Jiao literally has a medical issue but mnet made it seem like she wasn’t being a good team mate 🤬🤬
チェユンちゃん頑張ったよ！！すごい！！ダイスキだよ！！