New standard ridge line method (improvised jungle knot?)
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Still a work in progress. What would you call this system? And what stop knots should I try next?
I saw a couple of negative comments on my last ridge line video about how I was trying to “reinvent the wheel” so I decided to do it again. Haha eat your heart out. I’ve got ideas for days
That looks like a soft shackle that’s attached your prusic loop. I like the concept. Genius use of folding chair to make a mini ridge line
Thanks! I was having a little think tank with someone on Facebook and they mentioned soft shackles which led me to this
I'd call that an In-line software shackle. Never heard of it, but that's what I'd call it. Very smart and absolutely amazing. THANKS 😊 ...Alan in 🇨🇱 OH, now to go practice a diamond knot 🪢 🙄
In the Facebook group, you and I discussed ideas on ridgelines, and I have been looking forward to seeing what you came up with! I just got back home from a few days in Mark Twain Nation Forest dispersed camping deep in the thick, I wish I would have seen the video first! Awesome! I put a practice one on my back porch, and it works awesome! Thanks Larry! It was an honor putting our heads together!
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Excellent work my friend, I watch Dave's videos as well, glad you were able to improve this Ridgeline
Now THAT'S amazing AWESOMENESS ! ☆☆☆☆☆ THANKS ⛺️ "Very Impressive " ...Alan in 🇨🇱
That's a lanyard knot or boatswain's whistle knot. It is based on the carrick bend, which is that initial figure 8 shape you had at the setup.
It is an excellent stopper knot and is customary on the drawstring of navy sea bags.
It shows in The Ashley Book Of Knots as knot # 787. It is rounder and a little bigger than the diamond knot #693, which is based on the Ashley's bend. The double diamond knot #694 is about the same size or maybe bigger.
There’s a book for me to buy!!! Thanks
@@DevildogBushcraft It's a big one. Only covers about 3900 knots. All drawn by hand in about 4 years after 40 years of research. Research was mostly meeting people who used knots in their work. Ludicrous.
Now that’s amazing. Third advantage: You don’t need to find toggles. I’m gonna upgrade my prusik loops. Thanks!
That is a soft shackle on a prussik. That knot you described as a “figure 8” is called a Carrick bend.
It is a great idea to keep it in my tool box. I can tie all the knots you have shown in this video. Easy Peesy. Thanks.
This is the Devil Dog Ridgeline. That’s what I call it anyway. So, I went out into the National Forest near my home and did an overnight, where I used these prussik soft shackles, on the Devil Dog Ridgeline, and I’m telling ya Larry, you’re on it! I’ll never go to another system, because this beats em all! The only thing I’m doing different that shaves a few seconds off deployment, is I’m using a Siberian hitch instead of a bowline. Anyways, awesome job brother, this one was a fun one 👍🏻
You played a strong hand in this my friend! If we hadn’t had that chat I’d have gone back to my hotel and drank myself asleep but you sent me down the rabbit hole on soft shackles and I whipped this up and sent you that video, and then dank myself asleep! Lol
Very informative video! Dave would be impressed
Hope so!
That's Genius dude. Hats off
Thanks man!
I'll try this on my new ridgeline but I'll use a klemheist knot/ Dutch clamp knot as I find it quicker and neater than the Prusik. You could drop a bead or a toggle in there instead of a stop knot. Great idea thanks for posting.
I’ll check that out!
That is brilliant my friend.
Dave has something similar, and he modified his setup, I like yours as well. What about a wooden toggle in place of the Diamond Stop Knot. This would allow for simple material usage, no complicated knots and you can use simple stop or fisherman's knots.
Nonetheless, awesome knotting video, I am definitely saving it. Adding\Subscribing and liking this one for sure.
If Dave never modified his ridge line I probably never would have thought twice about doing anything different lol love that guy. Wooden toggles are still on the great list of things for me to play with. Just need the time!
If you don't cut the long tag ends off and instead put them in an overhand knot. That little bit can be a pull tag to remove the knot from the prusik. You put your figure 8 knot through the slot like you demonstrated and just leave the tag out. It will still hold the same but when you go to remove the figure 8 you just pull the tag and it come off. Good video.
Quick release!!! Yes! I’m totally trying this
I ordered the screen door hooks and cup hooks to make your previous ridge line. I think your previous idea was superior to this one for a couple of reasons. One, as you noted in this video, nobody is going to the a diamond knot as their stop knot. That knot is super complicated! I've tried to do it on previous projects...bleh! To heck with that. Jungle knots are a great way to do things. Blackie uses a version with his Bushcraft zip ties, Greebcraft's Neil has good videos on jungle knots as well. But, I have something invested in completing your last idea so I'm going to move forward with that.
All that said, I realize making these videos is a lot of work and I hope you enjoy much success for your efforts.
I recently tried using a double over hand knot for the stop knot and it worked fine. Eventually after I’ve had my fun with the improvised jungle knot craze I guarantee I’ll probably go back to the hook method for the simplicity
keep a tiny loop at the tip of the stopper knot. when you poke the stopped through the other knot, leave the loop behind, that way you can just pull the loop to undo the jungle knot.
And, I'd do a figure8 knot instead of the overhand, as the middle knot - not harder to tie and it conserves much more cordage strength
Love this, I like the idea of going over the jungle knot twice with your main line to keep it tight and get that mechanical advantage when you go to tighten!
Thanks!
It’s more like an improvised soft shakle . I use them with prussek loops to tie my tarp. To sinch my ridge line down I also use a prussek loop I keep 4 on my line 3 for my tarp and one to tie it off .
Ok, this one I like. I can see the utility of this.
It's a soft jungle prussic shackle knot
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Great idea, fast and easy to set a ridgeline. Congratulations and thanks. I'll be using this in my camping sites and beach settings.
Thanks man! Glad you like it!!!
OUTSTANDING! 👍
I would have kept strands over the diamond knot for a quick release pull tab
Just a soft shackle continuous loop. Keep the mission though.
You use a toggle, like a piece of stick, and no stopper knot is required. You clove hitch that bad boy.
Obviously nothing wrong with a toggle on the ridge line. Idk why but I’m just not into it. The concept however lives rent free in my head and I’m just waiting for inspiration to strike
So, it seems you're using the prussik so that you can use a trucker's hitch for the ridge line without pulling the whole rope through the loop of the trucker. Why not use the loop of the trucker's hitch with a small toggle (like, a little twig from the ground) and eliminate the prussik step? Alternatively, you can use the farrimond hitch which uses a prussik from a bight in your main line (my personal fav) which loses the mechanical advantage of the trucker's hitch but I honestly have never needed to go any tighter than what I could do with the farrimond.
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YA I sure dig this
I will copy you
Cool!
You talked about pulling the entire length of line through the Prussic Loop.
You dont have to do that.
After wrapping the line around the anchor point bring it back to the loop.
Create a byte in the free running end push it through the loop pull it tight and secure it like a shoestring.
What you showed looks like it will work really well.
Now go out and tie it in the rain one handed.
He mentioned avoiding the hassle of pulling the whole line through a fixed loop, not a prussik loop 👍
Oh and not to bite but it's bight, not byte :-p
@@OldNavajoTricks Spell check.
My commemt is he has a Prusick knot on the line.
I made mine into a loop.
When I bring the free running end around the tree and pull it tight.
I make a bight about six or eight inches in length and push it through the loop and pull it tighter.
Then I secure the bight the normal way people secure a truckers hitch.
There is no need to pull the line all the way through.
If I had a camera tripod I would make a video to show you.
Nothing wrong with the method shown in the video.
My way is another way.
@@shawnr771 Bang on marra 👍 as Axl Rose sang, My way your way anything goes lol, your method is the 'Normal' one as I read it, Bowline permanently in situ at the end of the line, round the tree, bight through and either toggle and ratchet tight or truckers hitch to secure, whatever keeps us off the deck is a win lol.
I think the process he originally refers to is the practice of 'larksheading' the whole line through the bowline and running the working end off to tree number 2 where a T.H. or similar will be used, but I'd say 95% of folks get sacked off with the extra ropework and explore other methods.
I have a tarp and hammock both set up together and ready to deploy in an ammo bag,
The hammock is on jungle cords and the tarp is on an adjustable loop with softshackles to each end that lock into the J cords.
Toggles from tarp go to prussiks on the topmost of the two looplines at each end and its all set up to be further tensioned once in the hammock using the inline prussiks on the lower line.
It's designed to be a very fast tarp+hammock and I jokingly call it a ten second tarp system, but I've never actually managed that fast :-D 🤘
@@OldNavajoTricks lol.
I added a 2 inch hardware snaplink to my bowline.
Dont have to fumble for a toggle.
I want to experiment with adding snaplinks to the grommets on the tarp.
My thoughts are what if I have to do that while injured or while performing first aid for others.
Wish I knew how to put it to words, but there is an easy way to tie the button or diamond knot after you make the friction hitch on the main line.
Bro that'll slip in stormy weather. I'd want more security
Sad but probably true. Nothing stopping you from adding actual toggles in that situation.
@@paddor Add a prussic loop as a whip lashing to close the jungle loop would be my option
Very cool, but really over engineering the ridgeline . The whole David Canterbury issue of the cordage being compromised from other methods is really over stated, most cords can handle LOTS of abuse.
Couldn’t agree more, with all of it. I just like new concepts. It’s like my whole thing
As long as you are enjoying yourself, that’s all that matters. I’ve always loved knots for some reason, so I find it very easy to remember them. I probably know about 70 + knots, but only regularly use about 10. There is no better way to learn and retain knots than by putting them to practical use. It’s worth doing something different for that benefit alone. It is good exercise for the brain to try and improvise, improve, and/or try to use and apply things in new ways. Knowledge and application are not mutually exclusive, and in my opinion, what you are doing is very good practice.
Cool! Maybe just use a toggle instead of a complicated stop knot?
I was steering away from a fixed toggle just for the sake of doing something different. I did however find that a double overhand knot worked just fine
Very concise video , complicated diamond knot. Far easier ways to skin the cat for us DUMMIES
Totally agree. The double overhand knot worked just as well for me. I kinda jumped the gun on that one.
That's a lanyard knot or boatswain's whistle knot. It is based on the carrick bend, which is that initial figure 8 shape you had at the setup.
It is an excellent stopper knot and is customary on the drawstring of navy sea bags.
It shows in The Ashley Book Of Knots as knot # 787. It is rounder and a little bigger than the diamond knot #693, which is based on the Ashley's bend. The double diamond knot #694 is about the same size or maybe bigger.
There’s a book for the wish list! Thanks!