Nailed it, another great demo, thanks for showing us the Ashley Stopper Knot .... great use for it with the double braided rope soft shackle, might have to dust of the old copy of Ashley's book of knots and see what else I might have missed in the ole bible
Thanks again ! I am sure Clifford could not have imaged what a soft shackle was when he was writing his book in the 1930's and 40's, as with many things these days the rate of change just gets faster and faster. If he could have looked this far ahead I am sure that his failed attempt to tie what turned out to be a swollen figure 8 which he saw on an old fishing boat would have been at the top of the list for this use case. I tried quite a few stoppers with this method of soft shackle, the Ashley or Oyster stopper knot proved to be the best hence the recommendation as as the first choice option in the video. For anyone reading this who does not have Ashely's Book of Knots the team at Bottom Up Boats can highly recommend picking up a copy, first published in 1944 it is still the "Knot Bible" for many (including us), see the link below for details :- amzn.to/3aHNe52 As an amazon associate we get commission from associated sales. We really appreciate the support that this programs gives us, as a small You Tube channel programs like this enable us to create more content for you !!
@@BottomUPBoats I picked up ABOT several years ago. Hammock rigging got me started. Converted my trimaran to synthetic rigging a couple of years ago. I went with the splices to avoid the loss in strength from the bends in knots. After looking at the safe working load for my Dynema, reducing it by half is still well within range. Your knotted shackles would require about one tenth of the time it takes me to splice a shackle, and the dimensions aren't nearly as critical. Your shackles can also be produced more easily on the fly or under way.
@@wisenber totally agree. Modern dynemma rope takes the breaking strains to new levels reducing the need for splicing in many use cases. You will be set for next time when you need to replace the work you did :)
@seanbeckerer5089 You could think of them just like their name suggests ...... an alternative to a metal shackle, clip or carabeena. Yes some corded braclets use the same principle to connect them as soft shackles
Yep. The Ashley and Larks is clutch. Works amazing!!!! Now it's So easy to put my soft shackles inside the tarp pouch and I can attach my tarp to my ridge line without any sticks or twigs.
Glad you found it useful, lots of use cases for these quick and easy soft shackles, both on and off the water. Appreciate the feedback, it is always nice to get comments like the one you shared :)
I know all of these knots but till I saw this video I had never even heard of a soft shackle, so useful! Thank you I've definitely learnt something today. Keep it up mate.
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Very useful, yes. However, the other "complicated and expensive" soft shackles made from dyneema with appropriate splices and knots for that line are much much stronger.
I have been using an overhand knot with the through and over method for about 5 years daily to carry my water bottle at work. I have about a half dozen soft shackles that I use in this method and I never have had any failures or lost items due to coming apart. I actually use heat shrink tubing to keep the shackles shaped up and tight. The best part about this method is they are easy to use even with gloves on.
Glad it was helpful ! Which was you favourite ? I can not got past the Ashely Stopper knot version, round end creates a great locking point for the shackle.
@@vxphan2601 you should have no issues with this one slipping. If you are going to put it under extended periods of long loads it is always good to pre load them prior to putting them in place. With that said you should be a OK once it is in place.
Nice work ! It is always nice to be able to create one of the spliced options we demo on the channel. This however is a great place to start !!!! Which is your favourite ? We love the Ashely Stopper with the Larks Head to lock it off it looks great and works well too :)
@@BottomUPBoats Something that is intriguing me recently and you guys might be the people to poke at this topic too. It is the low friction rings or thimbles that are available now. I’m only starting to play with them recently. I’m looking for a way to use them “backwards”. Run the running line around the outside and the fixed shackle line through the middle. This, I’m hoping, will give the running line less friction (or more leverage to overcome the friction) of the inner line and also give less of a tight angle on the running line. It takes the thimble one step closer to being a block replacement for some things. There are two hiccups I’m imagining so far. 1. The big catch is that the shackle running in the middle gets a lot of friction in one spot. Possibly dyneema is hard enough wearing to not be a worry for a long time !! It’s basically using dyneema as a bearing. There may be lubrication options to help out here. Or sheathing options too. ! 2. The other is finding an elegant way to keep the running line “in the block” when the line is slack. There might be a nice way to bring a loose loop around the ring with the soft shackle or another little line, to act as a “keep it in place “ type catch to hold the running line. If you have thought about this and found solutions then please do share. This approach would never completely replace a good block but in many situations (outhalls, Cunningham purchase systems, kickers /boom vangs, etc) where things need strength but don’t run fast like sheets, this could be an economical solution. Allen brothers for example in the uk have thimbles at incredible prices compared to a proper block able to hold the same load.
@@frederickwood9116 The modern friction rings are great. I would not worry about the concerns in option one the dyneema will run though it without issue without lubrication. I have seen them used on cascaded back stays, jib pulleys and many other use cases. The only place I have not seen them is on main sheet systems where most boats have stuck with pulleys, the will run better in this use case under light laod.
Fantastico! La tecnica che mi piace di più è l'ultima con il nodo Ashley di arresto e la bocca di lupo . Un sistema rapido ed efficacissimo per realizzare un ottimo soft shackles ! Bravi !
Totalmente d'accordo sul fatto che il nodo stopper Ashley e il cordino sono la selezione migliore dei grilli morbidi da 10 secondi. Grazie per essere passato e aver lasciato il tuo feedback
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Thanks for the feedback, I think you have just given the title for my next video. I will see what I can do to show you how we use then. We use them to attach sheets and halyards to sails, blocks fixing points, the list of what you can do is just about endless.
This is an excellent video, very well done! I don’t need a $50.00 Soft Shackle around our property, just something that I can make a quick connect and pull a medium weight load with.
Glad it was helpful! Sounds like the option we shared are perfect for your use case and can be made with less than 1 metre of any spare rope you have..
Glad it was helpful ! Sounds like you have found a solution to your problem that can be solved with any 1 metre for rope that you have lying around....
This video alone is worth subscribing for, So I just did! I had just hoisted my brand new mainsail and was motoring from the harbour down the channel to the lake. With confused seas and shifty winds and a loose mainsail foot caused my metal shackle attached to my clew to twist, deform and break. This resulted with the mainsail flogging to leeward and provided entertainment for the spectators on the pier and that did not impress my wife (crew of two). Fortunately, I was able to turn upwind quickly in the busy narrow channel and i used one of your soft shackles shown here secured the clew to the boom and instantly resumed on our journey out of the channel. The soft shackles now have a permanent place on my yacht and I have a few lengths of dyneema at the ready because you never know...
Sorry about that. We have put together a play list of the knots used in order to soft shackle demo. Not sure if you are talking about the knots or the clamp. Full length videos of both the Ashley Stopper knot and the larks head or cow hitch are included in the following play list if you would like to study them further. 10 Second Soft Shackle Knots ruclips.net/p/PLMoCfFBA9IMX1qiCtXYkWUzOgOVCUP0fI
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I tried another variant: the Ashley stopper (ABoK #526) for the knob and the Tag noose (ABoK #1126) for the clamp - seems it may be (even) more slack shake proof than the Lark Head and doesn't fall apart when the shackle is opened.
Thanks for the great video, which is also great for absolute non-sailors and amateurs! I have a question: How can I weld the cut end of the cordage without a large tool so that it doesn't split open here?
I think you are asking how to stop the cut end of the rope from fraying. If this is the case, it is best to cut the rope with a hot night or use a lighter to heat the rope, some of the fibres will melt which harden when it cools. This will stop any fraying. Hopefully this answers your question.
Nice one. I've also been experimenting and demonstrating variations of soft shackles and will soon put up a vid of destruction tests of all different variations. Happy to add your methods and tag you if you then want to tag or share that vid.
some extra securing trick: twist the strand together before tying the stop knot! open a "hole" is the twisted part insert the knot and the swisting will lock it secure
To get the max strength with a spliced shackle you need to finish it with 4 widths of rope past the stopper knot with a simple loop to hold it in place. This can result in a braking strength 230% of the base rope. I have not tested these but it will be a lot less, with only two widths and the knots to finish them off (which could be the weakest point) I would suggest it would be similar or slightly below the strength one width of rope. I am going to have to find someone with an load cell so I can run some actual comparisons for these...
They all will. With that said there are neater options that can be easily made with dyneema braid. Head to our channel and you will find 3 or for optima to try 👍
Instead of making a loop and throwing a cow hitch over, just tie a knot on each end of a single length and then put the loose ends together and then throw cow hitch over, this way you still have a short length of cordage for other jobs than just a soft shackle. Thats what i do.
Great idea !!!! I will be giving this one ago. Same outcome using less rope. Will have a lighter breaking load which should not be an issue for most add hoc use cases
@@BottomUPBoats if I want a soft shackle of a particular size I use the cow hitch as normal and with the loose ends I tie a Espalier knot or a surgeons knot, the latter of the two of what I use mostly and it never moves.
Bob, this is 4mm double braid. With that said you can tie these with any single or double braid rope, selecting different stopper knots base on the thickness.
Yes we did leave the best to last. This is my personal favourite too. It will work with dyneema, with that said I would suggest using some of the other spliced versions demonstrated on the channel if you have the time.
Thanks for stopping by and for joining the crew. I had not considered the Bull Hitch, thinking it about it is obvious that they both can do the job. The Bull Hitch is slightly more secure due to the cross over in the main part of the hitch. While I have not tested it my first impressions are this will make it harder to undo after load has been applied, if this is the case I would stick with the Cow Hitch. With that said it is up to you, both will do a good job.
@@BottomUPBoatsDarn good point, my first thought it would be more secure and less likely to loosen if bounced around. Getting it undo might be an issue...
@@mistastabs5840 the shackles tend to stay locked even after light load. If you are worried about them come undone you can loop a Velcro strip around the knot end to keep it neat and tidy
Any time, these shackles can be used in most applications that you would use a traditional metal shackle. The are lighter, cheaper and with modern rope the can be stronger than their metal cousins. They have the added advantage of causing less damage your boat, spars or humans in use cases where they may be flapping around.
I would strongly advise the use of these on an anchor chain snubber instead of using a stainless steel chain hook. I was astonished at the damage a stainless hook can do, and how bent it was when it jammed in our bow roller. The hook was destroyed in a split second and fired off the roller like a missile ripping the cheek plate sideways. If the pulpit bars had been open fronted the hook would have hit the winch operator. Only takes one wave for the winch operator to make a mistake.
Hey great instructional video, lots of variations. Would a clove hitch be more or less likely to weaken the shackle than the larks head is? I have used it but not under much strain, it seems good for keeping everything together when the is little to no load.
I have not been able to find anyone who has load tested the options. I have it on my list of video to make but am having issues getting the correct load testing gear. From my research on more traditional soft shackles the main contributor to the breaking load is the knot rather than the method of completing this shackle. Based off this research which is sadly not backed up with data I would say they are similar. The key is the knot, the Ashley stopper is great as it gives you a big square edge.
You can do it with any rope. If you have12-line Dyneema we suggest taking the time to do one of our spliced versions, with that said a OK to do this if you are in a hurry and don't have your splicing tools handy.
Bunyip , particularly what would you use these knots for?. As i have an arsenal of stoppers , why do i need these ones Sir?. Thank you for your time. Cheer’s Namaste… !!!
With the strength of modern dyneema rope many people have switched to using rope soft shackles rather than traditional metal shackles. Sailors and Climber are using rope shackles as they are lighter, stronger, cheaper in addition to being able to make them yourself. Some use cases include. Attaching halyards or sheets to your sails Attaching pulleys to fixed points on your boat Joining a tow cable to a car. Hang your hammock.
I saw a video. IIRC they used 3/8" line (don't quote me on that) They tested to failure around 20k-22k pounds and it was typically the line that failed not the shackle.
@@BottomUPBoats Makes for great paracord carabiner substitutes! As strong as most non-climbing carabiners. I figure it at 70% of the line breaking strength at a guess. At 50% it would still be more than 250 lbs on 550 paracord.
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Thanks for the feedback. These can be used to replace metal shackles across a variety of use cases. With the strength of modern rope the dynemma version can be even stronger than the metal alternatives. On boats, for towing cars, while climbing, just about anywhere you need to join two things together.
Any data to back up all these clams? I know from other videos that the simple overhand knot slips so soft shackles based on them are not particurally strong. I have only tested diamond and button knots myself.
I have not got around to load testing these, may be a job for the winter. The shackle strength is linked to the knot you use, with strength increasing with a large square edge on the base of the knot. If you were looking for the strongest I would guess that the ashley stopper knot will give you the best results.
Allen, Check out the HowNot2 chanel. I think you would particulary enjoy it. They did a sailing series as well. BTW, I've been enjoying you mast climbing videos. I just moved up to a 28' Yankee with a keel stepped mast, so I'll be taking some trips to the top this spring.
@@daveopincarne3718 good luck with the new boat. Lots of other option to consider both spliced and with knots in this playlist. ruclips.net/p/PLMoCfFBA9IMXC6P0b6Ql8822sZnthEYfk
Did he just show about 7 different knots or am I losing my mind? Could have sworn he ended with "number 4" but also pretty sure I saw more knots than that. Either way, great video. Easy to follow and also entertaining, and that's tough to do.
Nailed it, another great demo, thanks for showing us the Ashley Stopper Knot .... great use for it with the double braided rope soft shackle, might have to dust of the old copy of Ashley's book of knots and see what else I might have missed in the ole bible
Thanks again ! I am sure Clifford could not have imaged what a soft shackle was when he was writing his book in the 1930's and 40's, as with many things these days the rate of change just gets faster and faster. If he could have looked this far ahead I am sure that his failed attempt to tie what turned out to be a swollen figure 8 which he saw on an old fishing boat would have been at the top of the list for this use case.
I tried quite a few stoppers with this method of soft shackle, the Ashley or Oyster stopper knot proved to be the best hence the recommendation as as the first choice option in the video.
For anyone reading this who does not have Ashely's Book of Knots the team at Bottom Up Boats can highly recommend picking up a copy, first published in 1944 it is still the "Knot Bible" for many (including us), see the link below for details :-
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@@BottomUPBoats I picked up ABOT several years ago. Hammock rigging got me started.
Converted my trimaran to synthetic rigging a couple of years ago. I went with the splices to avoid the loss in strength from the bends in knots. After looking at the safe working load for my Dynema, reducing it by half is still well within range. Your knotted shackles would require about one tenth of the time it takes me to splice a shackle, and the dimensions aren't nearly as critical. Your shackles can also be produced more easily on the fly or under way.
@@wisenber totally agree. Modern dynemma rope takes the breaking strains to new levels reducing the need for splicing in many use cases. You will be set for next time when you need to replace the work you did :)
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@seanbeckerer5089 You could think of them just like their name suggests ...... an alternative to a metal shackle, clip or carabeena. Yes some corded braclets use the same principle to connect them as soft shackles
Ashley Stopper and lark's head is quick and strong. Thanks for that.
Yep, left the best to last in the demo. The Larks Head & Ashley Stopper knot combo is still made in seconds but is bullet proof.
agreed!!!!
Excellent, simple, and best video explaining how to make a soft shackle!!! Thank you for posting.
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Yep. The Ashley and Larks is clutch. Works amazing!!!!
Now it's So easy to put my soft shackles inside the tarp pouch and I can attach my tarp to my ridge line without any sticks or twigs.
One of if not the best option. Glad you found the video useful !!!
You have three third ways, and two final ways of doing it. That's impressive.
Always good to have a few options 👍
First time on your channel, and I'm not a sailor, but that was on of the best instructional videos I've seen on YT.
Glad you found it useful, lots of use cases for these quick and easy soft shackles, both on and off the water.
Appreciate the feedback, it is always nice to get comments like the one you shared :)
Easy-to-follow explanation and no fluff. Great video!
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I know all of these knots but till I saw this video I had never even heard of a soft shackle, so useful! Thank you I've definitely learnt something today. Keep it up mate.
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Great knots! Looks so simple and effective 😊No need to make other complicated and expensive soft shackles like other RUclipsrs is showing!
You’re welcome 😊
Very useful, yes. However, the other "complicated and expensive" soft shackles made from dyneema with appropriate splices and knots for that line are much much stronger.
@@tanguerochaslike 10x+ stronger.
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Extremely handy and useful. Thanku
Not to problem, glad you liked it !
Excellent video. So simple and direct. Thank you for this. Jim.
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I have been using an overhand knot with the through and over method for about 5 years daily to carry my water bottle at work. I have about a half dozen soft shackles that I use in this method and I never have had any failures or lost items due to coming apart. I actually use heat shrink tubing to keep the shackles shaped up and tight. The best part about this method is they are easy to use even with gloves on.
Thanks for stopping by and for sharing. Totally agree with you comment and like the add of the shrink tubing, I will have to give that one a go 👍🏼
Excellent, I just learnt something very useful and still remember it because of the simplicity of the knot. Thank you so much
Glad it was helpful !
Which was you favourite ?
I can not got past the Ashely Stopper knot version, round end creates a great locking point for the shackle.
@@BottomUPBoats the fourth knot is great. Wonder if the knot will slip under high tension.
@@vxphan2601 you should have no issues with this one slipping. If you are going to put it under extended periods of long loads it is always good to pre load them prior to putting them in place. With that said you should be a OK once it is in place.
Thank you. I need to make soft hanks and this is the way.
Glad it was helpful!
Simple. Perfect!!
Indeed, the simple things in life are often the best :)
Cool soft shackle. Thanks for showing how to make them.
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What superb demonstration. Much Thanks !
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Love that second fastening option. Quicker release than a lark's head when you are using a soft shackle for a lighter-duty application.
100% lots of great options for any use case !!!
Nice. I've already made three soft shackles to use since seeing your video. Thanks.
Nice work ! It is always nice to be able to create one of the spliced options we demo on the channel. This however is a great place to start !!!!
Which is your favourite ?
We love the Ashely Stopper with the Larks Head to lock it off it looks great and works well too :)
Nice and simple. It’s timeless too.
Thanks for sharing.
Our pleasure ! As you said these are timeless and can be made in seconds from even the shortest bit of spare rope !
@@BottomUPBoats Something that is intriguing me recently and you guys might be the people to poke at this topic too. It is the low friction rings or thimbles that are available now.
I’m only starting to play with them recently. I’m looking for a way to use them “backwards”. Run the running line around the outside and the fixed shackle line through the middle. This, I’m hoping, will give the running line less friction (or more leverage to overcome the friction) of the inner line and also give less of a tight angle on the running line. It takes the thimble one step closer to being a block replacement for some things.
There are two hiccups I’m imagining so far.
1. The big catch is that the shackle running in the middle gets a lot of friction in one spot.
Possibly dyneema is hard enough wearing to not be a worry for a long time !! It’s basically using dyneema as a bearing. There may be lubrication options to help out here. Or sheathing options too. !
2. The other is finding an elegant way to keep the running line “in the block” when the line is slack.
There might be a nice way to bring a loose loop around the ring with the soft shackle or another little line, to act as a “keep it in place “ type catch to hold the running line.
If you have thought about this and found solutions then please do share. This approach would never completely replace a good block but in many situations (outhalls, Cunningham purchase systems, kickers /boom vangs, etc) where things need strength but don’t run fast like sheets, this could be an economical solution. Allen brothers for example in the uk have thimbles at incredible prices compared to a proper block able to hold the same load.
@@frederickwood9116 The modern friction rings are great. I would not worry about the concerns in option one the dyneema will run though it without issue without lubrication.
I have seen them used on cascaded back stays, jib pulleys and many other use cases.
The only place I have not seen them is on main sheet systems where most boats have stuck with pulleys, the will run better in this use case under light laod.
Fantastico! La tecnica che mi piace di più è l'ultima con il nodo Ashley di arresto e la bocca di lupo . Un sistema rapido ed efficacissimo per realizzare un ottimo soft shackles ! Bravi !
Totalmente d'accordo sul fatto che il nodo stopper Ashley e il cordino sono la selezione migliore dei grilli morbidi da 10 secondi. Grazie per essere passato e aver lasciato il tuo feedback
EXCELLENT!!!
THANKS FOR SHARING!
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A quick and easy to remember soft shackle, excellent!
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How did I knot know this??? Omg this was silly simple and I love it!!
Thank you, I learned a ton!!!😊
Glad it was helpful ! the simplest things in life are often the best :)
That was great! Thanks a million, I'll be messing about with these for sure.
Lots of options which can all be done in seconds 👍
@@BottomUPBoats thanks.
larks head seems like the easy, secure winner for me!
💯 one if not the best option for finishing
@@BottomUPBoats I was gunna make another fancy, spliced soft shackle for my hammock out of amsteel, but this is just too easy!
@@uradumby25 yep for that use case these options are on point !!
Great stuff shown here! I feel hungry for more :)
More to come so make sure you subscribe button to join the Bottom up Boats CREW.... There are also lots of spliced soft shackle options and soft shackle knot videos on the channel so head over there to make your hunger subside.
Excellent video! I gave my rope a planetary twist and it made a very neat shackle. I even made one out of 1/16 cord for a keychain.
That is awesome !
Unlimited options once you have figured out how to make these bad boys ...
@@BottomUPBoats Thanks again for the inspiration! Here is my twist on it: ruclips.net/video/OGeq2BrS2t0/видео.html
Gracias , excelente.!!!!explicacion
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Great video.
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Shiver me timbers!
Could be our first comment from a lumber jack
Thank you. This is all o need right now!
It is a great addition to any sailors bag of tricks :)
Brilliant and thank you
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Amazing! Thank you so much for sharing!!
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Good video. I would have liked to see relevant applications included.
Thanks for the feedback, I think you have just given the title for my next video. I will see what I can do to show you how we use then. We use them to attach sheets and halyards to sails, blocks fixing points, the list of what you can do is just about endless.
Очень круто! Спасибо огромное! Thаnk you very much!
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@@BottomUPBoats I didn't just like it, I borrowed a couple of ideas that I didn't know before. Thank you sincerely!
This is an excellent video, very well done! I don’t need a $50.00 Soft Shackle around our property, just something that I can make a quick connect and pull a medium weight load with.
Glad it was helpful! Sounds like the option we shared are perfect for your use case and can be made with less than 1 metre of any spare rope you have..
Glad it was helpful !
Sounds like you have found a solution to your problem that can be solved with any 1 metre for rope that you have lying around....
I was looking for this everywhere thanks
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Great information that a guy or girl can use, thank you
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Nice. Very cool!
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😊Thanks for sharing 😊 Take care 😊
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Great video. Thank you for the tips
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Nice!!!!!! Thank you.
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This video alone is worth subscribing for, So I just did!
I had just hoisted my brand new mainsail and was motoring from the harbour down the channel to the lake. With confused seas and shifty winds and a loose mainsail foot caused my metal shackle attached to my clew to twist, deform and break. This resulted with the mainsail flogging to leeward and provided entertainment for the spectators on the pier and that did not impress my wife (crew of two). Fortunately, I was able to turn upwind quickly in the busy narrow channel and i used one of your soft shackles shown here secured the clew to the boom and instantly resumed on our journey out of the channel. The soft shackles now have a permanent place on my yacht and I have a few lengths of dyneema at the ready because you never know...
Thanks for stopping by and subscribing.... 100% agree that some spare dyneema is a must and with these you can have a custom shackle in second !!!
Gracias por vuestra sencillez en resolver este tipo de grilletes textiles
A veces, las soluciones más simples son las mejores. ¡¡Me alegro de que te haya gustado !!
Nice detailed video
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On the 3rd one your hands covered up a lot of the process thanks it got away
Sorry about that. We have put together a play list of the knots used in order to soft shackle demo.
Not sure if you are talking about the knots or the clamp. Full length videos of both the Ashley Stopper knot and the larks head or cow hitch are included in the following play list if you would like to study them further.
10 Second Soft Shackle Knots
ruclips.net/p/PLMoCfFBA9IMX1qiCtXYkWUzOgOVCUP0fI
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Brilliant!
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So clear...thanks
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Very similar to these just a some fluffy padding once finished
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I tried another variant: the Ashley stopper (ABoK #526) for the knob and the Tag noose (ABoK #1126) for the clamp - seems it may be (even) more slack shake proof than the Lark Head and doesn't fall apart when the shackle is opened.
The joys of a Sunday afternoon with ABoK, will have to check out the Tog noose and give it a go. Thanks for sharing some great options
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Thanks for the great video, which is also great for absolute non-sailors and amateurs!
I have a question: How can I weld the cut end of the cordage without a large tool so that it doesn't split open here?
I think you are asking how to stop the cut end of the rope from fraying. If this is the case, it is best to cut the rope with a hot night or use a lighter to heat the rope, some of the fibres will melt which harden when it cools. This will stop any fraying.
Hopefully this answers your question.
@@BottomUPBoats Thank you so much!
Nice one. I've also been experimenting and demonstrating variations of soft shackles and will soon put up a vid of destruction tests of all different variations. Happy to add your methods and tag you if you then want to tag or share that vid.
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some extra securing trick: twist the strand together before tying the stop knot! open a "hole" is the twisted part insert the knot and the swisting will lock it secure
Thanks for sharing, I will have to give that a go.
Very nice. How does the strength compare to a spliced shackle?
To get the max strength with a spliced shackle you need to finish it with 4 widths of rope past the stopper knot with a simple loop to hold it in place. This can result in a braking strength 230% of the base rope.
I have not tested these but it will be a lot less, with only two widths and the knots to finish them off (which could be the weakest point) I would suggest it would be similar or slightly below the strength one width of rope.
I am going to have to find someone with an load cell so I can run some actual comparisons for these...
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Nice demo. Do any of these work in dyneema braid?
They all will. With that said there are neater options that can be easily made with dyneema braid. Head to our channel and you will find 3 or for optima to try 👍
Instead of making a loop and throwing a cow hitch over, just tie a knot on each end of a single length and then put the loose ends together and then throw cow hitch over, this way you still have a short length of cordage for other jobs than just a soft shackle.
Thats what i do.
Great idea !!!!
I will be giving this one ago. Same outcome using less rope.
Will have a lighter breaking load which should not be an issue for most add hoc use cases
@@BottomUPBoats if I want a soft shackle of a particular size I use the cow hitch as normal and with the loose ends I tie a Espalier knot or a surgeons knot, the latter of the two of what I use mostly and it never moves.
@@zchuss1 cool, I will give it a go !
@@BottomUPBoats let me know how you get on.
Great video. What kind of rope are you using?
Bob, this is 4mm double braid. With that said you can tie these with any single or double braid rope, selecting different stopper knots base on the thickness.
That was good schit-especially the last one.
Will it work with dyneema?
Yes we did leave the best to last. This is my personal favourite too. It will work with dyneema, with that said I would suggest using some of the other spliced versions demonstrated on the channel if you have the time.
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Question for #4 instead of a Larks head/Cow hitch would a Bull hitch be better? Great video and Subscribed....
Thanks for stopping by and for joining the crew. I had not considered the Bull Hitch, thinking it about it is obvious that they both can do the job. The Bull Hitch is slightly more secure due to the cross over in the main part of the hitch. While I have not tested it my first impressions are this will make it harder to undo after load has been applied, if this is the case I would stick with the Cow Hitch. With that said it is up to you, both will do a good job.
@@BottomUPBoatsDarn good point, my first thought it would be more secure and less likely to loosen if bounced around.
Getting it undo might be an issue...
@@mistastabs5840 the shackles tend to stay locked even after light load. If you are worried about them come undone you can loop a Velcro strip around the knot end to keep it neat and tidy
You can treat the loop end as you would to change a Lark's Head into a Bullock Hitch.
Figure 8 the bitter ends together
Lark's Head over the stopper
Done
Yep, I am sure that beginners could have that down pat and under 10 seconds with a couple practise runs
@@BottomUPBoats lol
Thanks very much for your demonstration ! When do we need this ?
Any time, these shackles can be used in most applications that you would use a traditional metal shackle. The are lighter, cheaper and with modern rope the can be stronger than their metal cousins.
They have the added advantage of causing less damage your boat, spars or humans in use cases where they may be flapping around.
I would strongly advise the use of these on an anchor chain snubber instead of using a stainless steel chain hook. I was astonished at the damage a stainless hook can do, and how bent it was when it jammed in our bow roller. The hook was destroyed in a split second and fired off the roller like a missile ripping the cheek plate sideways. If the pulpit bars had been open fronted the hook would have hit the winch operator. Only takes one wave for the winch operator to make a mistake.
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Hey great instructional video, lots of variations. Would a clove hitch be more or less likely to weaken the shackle than the larks head is? I have used it but not under much strain, it seems good for keeping everything together when the is little to no load.
I have not been able to find anyone who has load tested the options. I have it on my list of video to make but am having issues getting the correct load testing gear. From my research on more traditional soft shackles the main contributor to the breaking load is the knot rather than the method of completing this shackle.
Based off this research which is sadly not backed up with data I would say they are similar. The key is the knot, the Ashley stopper is great as it gives you a big square edge.
Suspect break load would be very similar with larks head/clove hitch however if it's been heavily loaded the larks head should be easier to undo.
Can you do this with 12-line Dyneema or should you use other rope, thanks.
You can do it with any rope. If you have12-line Dyneema we suggest taking the time to do one of our spliced versions, with that said a OK to do this if you are in a hurry and don't have your splicing tools handy.
Bunyip , particularly what would you use these knots for?. As i have an arsenal of stoppers , why do i need these ones Sir?. Thank you for your time. Cheer’s Namaste… !!!
With the strength of modern dyneema rope many people have switched to using rope soft shackles rather than traditional metal shackles. Sailors and Climber are using rope shackles as they are lighter, stronger, cheaper in addition to being able to make them yourself.
Some use cases include.
Attaching halyards or sheets to your sails
Attaching pulleys to fixed points on your boat
Joining a tow cable to a car.
Hang your hammock.
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It would be interesting to see those tested for breaking strength.
It is on my list of videos to make, need to get my hands on a digital load test and we will get it out there
If that happens, I may also be interesting to see how easy to untie different shackles may be after being subjected to sizable tension.
@@maciejtomczak3785 will be interesting to test this out. Some of the more heavy duty options will be hard it not impossible to undo
I saw a video. IIRC they used 3/8" line (don't quote me on that) They tested to failure around 20k-22k pounds and it was typically the line that failed not the shackle.
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Any strength comparisons to the diamond and button knot versions? To the ones that use a brummel splice loop?
I have not down any, hope to try and build a test rig this winter to take some.
It will be less but still ok for most use cases with modern rope.
@@BottomUPBoats Makes for great paracord carabiner substitutes! As strong as most non-climbing carabiners. I figure it at 70% of the line breaking strength at a guess. At 50% it would still be more than 250 lbs on 550 paracord.
A 2 strand diamond knot makes a better looking, very symetrical stopper knot
Yep that is one of the best but a little hard to pull one off in ten seconds.
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Estos no los he probado. La fuerza del nudo será el factor limitante, supongo que se romperán según la carga de la abrazadera que sepas que usas.
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Nice demo, but what would this knot be used for? Is it used on boats?
Thanks for the feedback. These can be used to replace metal shackles across a variety of use cases. With the strength of modern rope the dynemma version can be even stronger than the metal alternatives. On boats, for towing cars, while climbing, just about anywhere you need to join two things together.
Becoming a popular way to attach hammock tree straps together too.
@@hubey the use cases are only limited by your imagination. 👍
@@hubey nice one, the use cases are nearly endless if you put your mind to it.
Good question thanks..
Good answers too,thanks again.
which is the best knot to use when hoisting your local MP from a streetlamp? would you use a shiv on the light arm? or a shiv on the MP first?
That’s a use case I had not thought of. Why discriminate, why one our one around both and join them together to create a longer drop ?
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Can you use these with dyneema?
yep, works on both single and double braided rope including Dyneema.
For tubular spectra or dyneema I would use a different construction method than a knotted loop.
Any data to back up all these clams? I know from other videos that the simple overhand knot slips so soft shackles based on them are not particurally strong. I have only tested diamond and button knots myself.
I have not got around to load testing these, may be a job for the winter. The shackle strength is linked to the knot you use, with strength increasing with a large square edge on the base of the knot. If you were looking for the strongest I would guess that the ashley stopper knot will give you the best results.
Allen, Check out the HowNot2 chanel. I think you would particulary enjoy it. They did a sailing series as well.
BTW, I've been enjoying you mast climbing videos. I just moved up to a 28' Yankee with a keel stepped mast, so I'll be taking some trips to the top this spring.
@@daveopincarne3718 good luck with the new boat. Lots of other option to consider both spliced and with knots in this playlist.
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Thanks for the comment. Good to hear from you.
Will this work with dynema
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Did he just show about 7 different knots or am I losing my mind? Could have sworn he ended with "number 4" but also pretty sure I saw more knots than that.
Either way, great video. Easy to follow and also entertaining, and that's tough to do.
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If I want to secure anything properly I use a Rosendahl Bend to create a loop.
Thanks for sharing I will have to give that one a go...
Frank bush shows a type of soft shackle that is quick release. To see it look up frank bushes rapid ridgeline.
Thanks for stopping by and for sharing some other options, i will be sure to take a look.
I was taught and therefore know that last knot as a "larks 'foot' not 'head'" as it shows the action of a birds foot grasping a stick.
Had not heard that one before, thanks for sharing !