Ridge line and guy lines. Advanced method

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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  • @jeffrdnck7973
    @jeffrdnck7973 Год назад +3

    I think you won the battle of the “ultimate ridge line “ video competition!

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +1

      Thanks dude!

    • @jamaicanbushninja
      @jamaicanbushninja Год назад +2

      Love the idea of the hooks…might have to reconsider my use of tied-in toggles. That’s what I love about the community, always innovating. Keep up the good work.

  • @isvaraov
    @isvaraov Год назад +1

    Fancy and awesome ridge line and guy lines my man

  • @AiAngel
    @AiAngel 22 дня назад +1

    This is a great system, the door latch hooks are really cheap yet effective!

  • @BLACKIETHOMAS
    @BLACKIETHOMAS Год назад +4

    I LIKE THE HOOKS ITS A GOOD IDEA...SAFE JOURNEYS TO YOU SIR

  • @ericcook8422
    @ericcook8422 Год назад +1

    I appreciate your guy line application. Very interesting idea. Thanks for your information.

  • @kenbarrett2500
    @kenbarrett2500 Год назад +9

    I caught this video on fb feed You got another sub instantly

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад

      Thanks! I’ll keep trying new things, hope you enjoy!

    • @hotshot791
      @hotshot791 Год назад +4

      Me as well!! What a unique ridge line. I have not seen this before. Can’t wait to see more of your content!

    • @llCarnivoreBushcraftll
      @llCarnivoreBushcraftll Год назад

      Same here

    • @garyemmert1735
      @garyemmert1735 Год назад

      Pretty cool setup. Enjoyed the video

    • @SouthTexasVet
      @SouthTexasVet 6 месяцев назад

      Ditto, genius idea. I’m a sub now

  • @AlienVisitation
    @AlienVisitation Год назад +1

    Great ideas!

  • @rafterL78
    @rafterL78 2 месяца назад +2

    Good presentation, smart but simple and quick. I like the way you think. Subscribed

  • @user-po7iv4ni3o
    @user-po7iv4ni3o Год назад +2

    Good man, not afraid to have a schmoke on camera 😊

  • @Survial9999
    @Survial9999 Год назад +5

    Wall Hooks for Hanging, 30pcs Black Coat Hook for Wall, Metal Hooks for Hanging, Heavy Duty Small Wall Hooks With Screws for Hanging Coats, Keys, Towel, Bags, Coffee Mug, Hat, Dog Leashes, Etc (Black)

  • @floydsmith2296
    @floydsmith2296 Год назад +6

    I gotta tell you...EVERYBODY and their brother has come out with a new, speedy deploy ridgeline system lately. And I had second thoughts about watching "one more guy do his take..." Well, I'm glad I watched your video! You definitely improved the system and I'm going to emulate you Ridgeline my next time out. I think your guy lines are the best addition to the system. I liked, subbed, and all that. Thanks for posting! I look forward to learning more from you.

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад

      Thanks man! What a compliment!

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +1

      Get the thickest door latch hook you can find. I’ve got one that’s way better than these in the video. They haven’t failed me yet but I’d like them slightly thicker

  • @allkindsofoutdooractivities
    @allkindsofoutdooractivities Год назад +1

    Very nice! Great tip

  • @paulhutchings7527
    @paulhutchings7527 Год назад +1

    Great ideas for a fast setup.

  • @ericnowlen6819
    @ericnowlen6819 Год назад +3

    Dang Larry! I love this set up but I think Dave's toggle might beat this. I still think your ingenuity is kicking ass. Hoorah devildog!

  • @ashesofwar9476
    @ashesofwar9476 Месяц назад +1

    Great ideas, and a great video. Thank you.

  • @pawoutdoors9290
    @pawoutdoors9290 Год назад +3

    And what if the cord snaps? You have a hook coming at you!! Truckers hitch easy and no hooks

  • @selfdefensejujitsu-mizumar7221
    @selfdefensejujitsu-mizumar7221 3 месяца назад +1

    Great demonstration absolutely love the set up. Thank you for sharing! I’m going to start making some up myself.

  • @llCarnivoreBushcraftll
    @llCarnivoreBushcraftll Год назад +1

    Saw this link in bushcraft tools and gear on FB! Glad I clicked on, you have a new sub! Semper Fi Brother!

  • @RodrigoBoosBR
    @RodrigoBoosBR Год назад +1

    Man thank you for the vid, cheers from Brazil!

  • @jonnywaselectric
    @jonnywaselectric Год назад +3

    Occasionally I'll learn something watching a video, I learnt a couple things and I'm here to say thanks. Off to ebay to look for some hooks for my guy lines

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +1

      I love it! Thanks! I try to keep away from the stuff that’s been done a million times before

  • @Noway673
    @Noway673 11 месяцев назад +1

    Love the concept! I can tell you put alot of thought into this idea 💡 I like fast setup shelters and take down in less than 2 minutes.Everything packed up under 5 minutes.I'll try your methods.

  • @jimkunkle2669
    @jimkunkle2669 6 месяцев назад

    Dude that’s genius

  • @charleswalter2902
    @charleswalter2902 Год назад +2

    Really good video, you'll be getting more subs because your channel seems very informative.

  • @Ryker2608
    @Ryker2608 Месяц назад +1

    uncoiling paracord without it tying itself into knots hitherto unheard of by man? SORCERY!!!!

  • @Chris_Love
    @Chris_Love 3 месяца назад +1

    I like how there are sooo many ways doing a ridgeline and guide lines, I´m using carabiners on my ridgeline instead of hooks. I did however follow you directions on the guide lines, I really liked the way of using prusik loops and it makes it so easy for adjustments

  • @drumswithfist
    @drumswithfist 8 месяцев назад +1

    I’d attach tiny rockets to the ends of my ridge & guy lines, so you can point & fire like spider-bushcraft-man. But seriously your system & presentation are top notch. All the little questions that popped in my head, you covered with clear, detailed closeups and explanations. Quality work 🤘🏻👍🏻

  • @ianmonaghan5442
    @ianmonaghan5442 Год назад +3

    I wouldn't throw the tarp over the ridgeline. If it rains hard that water is going to wick along that line and drip water on you under your tarp.

    • @Richarddragon22
      @Richarddragon22 Год назад

      if you have an old shirt you can wrap a few strips of the cotton shirt at either end of the ridge line to catch that rain just a bushcraft band aid if your tarp is not equipped with loops. Or make button loops to attach your prussic line to.

  • @DevildogBushcraft
    @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +2

    Can’t believe I called my ridge line a guy line… damn

  • @paddor
    @paddor 6 месяцев назад +1

    Pretty cool system. I’ve been trying to stay away from systems with fixed toggles/carabiners/hooks though. Kusk bushcraft explains a nice way to tie the ridgeline and guy lines using a single knot (it’s slipped overhand around the standing line). Then on the stake side I just use a marlinspike hitch. That knot is faster than you can see, AND it removes dirt from the peg after pulling them out (provided they’re round). It’s not exactly adjustable, just place the stake where you need it. If I need adjustability, there’s always the taut line hitch.
    Great video btw!

  • @tomaszderadicka1694
    @tomaszderadicka1694 Год назад +1

    Hello Devildog, very helpfull, thank you. The other option is what italian bushcrafter do with the small stick with 3 holes. Also nice. (see explorer wolf tension). There are many ways of tensioning the rope, but yours is very easy and clever. Thank you. Tomas

  • @paddycranham8762
    @paddycranham8762 Год назад +1

    Great video and some great tips keep it up

  • @ManicMaestr0
    @ManicMaestr0 Год назад +1

    I just want to say, I have an upcoming camping trip and I've been planning to make a rapid deploy ridge line for awhile. I've already gone down the youtube rabbit hole of ridge line videos and I know I always come back to this one but when I search 'ridge line', this video doesn't come up, the YT algorithm really sucks. This is one of my fav videos for this and I literally went out and got the same stakes just to create this. I wish this video got a lot more views that it deserves. Just wanted to give my thanks!

  • @biranit50
    @biranit50 6 месяцев назад +1

    at 5:08: if you use a bight instead of the end of the line you can avoid the unwanted knot when tou finish the deploy.

  • @DanielEscobedo-dq1wi
    @DanielEscobedo-dq1wi 2 месяца назад +1

    Very good video, great info and presentation.
    Stay with it, you’re getting better with each video. Subscribers will grow. 👍

  • @garypowell2016
    @garypowell2016 Год назад +2

    Quickest & simplest ridgeline and guy-lines I've come across - well done.

  • @kalvinnoble488
    @kalvinnoble488 2 месяца назад +1

    I like you take of a quick ridge line. In away it's a step-up from your typical ridge-line since you do away with the trucker's hitch. I do wished you had shown how you attached the metal hook to your bolin knot. I also liked how you used your metal hook and a pressic knot for your guy lines. Again, I wished you had shown how you attached your metal tent stake to your guy line. A very nice approach for setting up a shelter. Will have to start cataloguing these different ways in creating these ridge-lines and guy-lines. (This the 4th different version in setting up a ridge-line and a guy-line.) Thanks for sharing your technique. Kalvin N from Eastern Canada

    • @ghq113
      @ghq113 2 месяца назад

      Same here, I’ll have to look how he attached it to bowline knot
      Thought he might have added a link to get the described hooks

  • @denisoleary5302
    @denisoleary5302 Год назад +1

    All very intresting and new to me. However have you checked out, the Siberian hitch, or better Roberts Bulgaria's Ridge line on youtube?

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +3

      Siberian hitch has been on my radar for a while but haven’t practiced it much yet. I just looked up Robert Bs ridge line and that’s actually what inspired me to add to my ridge line! I saw other people adding toggles and that really got the wheels turning!!!

  • @freddieharle4322
    @freddieharle4322 Год назад +2

    What knot did you use to attach the first hook to the main ridge line? Love the content pal!

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +4

      A bowline knot at the end with a bull hitch attaching the hook to the bowline. I’ve got a video planned for this

  • @DerekGruending
    @DerekGruending Год назад +2

    Excellent video mate! Subbed.

  • @mariogalarza5036
    @mariogalarza5036 Месяц назад +1

    How long are the guy line??? 13ft or 15ft...

  • @kennethwilson8633
    @kennethwilson8633 Год назад +2

    Aren’t you worried you will poke holes in stuff like your tarp or in your backpack with those hooks? Have fun stay safe.

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +1

      Should be ok. Hooks aren’t sharp or anything. Tent stakes would probably get me before the hooks ever would

    • @ForgotTheMachete
      @ForgotTheMachete Год назад +1

      Could put them in a durable bag too :)

  • @globyois
    @globyois 7 месяцев назад +1

    That right up close to GENIUS! Love it! Thanks.

  • @jacquesmerde3282
    @jacquesmerde3282 3 месяца назад +1

    I really like the guy line idea. You can adjust the tension from underneath the tarp in bad weather. One modification I did for hammock camping was to attach the line to the first tree with the hook attached to another prussik loop and hook it into a bowline tied at the end of the rope. That way, I can run my tree straps through the opening like I do on the "trucker's hitch" side. Subscribed!!

  • @shanedpain7734
    @shanedpain7734 3 месяца назад +1

    Less than half-way in and I’ve subbed. Good stuff.

  • @dday-does-stuff
    @dday-does-stuff Год назад +2

    I like this technique. It harkens back to my service days where I'd just throw a couple of bungee / shock cords around the trees and just let the elasticity provide the tension. Anything but knots in the dark, that's for sure.

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +1

      All pleasantries aside, bungee cords are 100 percent under rated!

    • @outdoorsman357
      @outdoorsman357 Год назад

      @DevildogBushcraft I use bungees to keep good tension on my guylines

  • @klarke0
    @klarke0 Год назад +1

    Skip the hardware and just add an extra loop at end of prusik note and feed knots through the loop above for a secure attachment.

  • @alwardslab8732
    @alwardslab8732 Год назад +1

    for the guy line hook, you should try barrel knots as in fishing hooks:
    ruclips.net/video/1YkNzVFKLnk/видео.html
    And you can feed two cords, one parallell to the hook body with a stopper knott and then secured with the other cord inside the barrel knot.

  • @robyngrogan7647
    @robyngrogan7647 Год назад +1

    How long is your door latch hooks I found some that was 4inches and 5inches.

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +1

      Sorry for the late response. 4 and 5 inch sound large to me. I think mine were 2.5

  • @joelareddola4946
    @joelareddola4946 Год назад +1

    Saw you posting in the learning center. Checked out your page. I like what I see. Subb’d

  • @outdoorsman357
    @outdoorsman357 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the share,always enjoy seeing how other's on how they use the ridge line technique.

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +1

      It feels wrong to do the same thing everyone else is doing just for the sake of a video. Glad you liked this one but brace yourself because you’ll probably see me post some seriously dumb ideas real soon! Lol 😜

    • @outdoorsman357
      @outdoorsman357 Год назад

      @DevildogBushcraft ill be looking forward to it

  • @matiasstahli3864
    @matiasstahli3864 Год назад +1

    Hello. Contacting you from Switzerland. I'm new on Bushcraft. I'm amazed how many things we can learn and do. Your ridge line is excellent. Have seen many variations and liked all of them in their category. However no one does tell how long should be a ridge line or a guy line. Would appreciate to have this info. Thank you. 🪓

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +1

      Hello! I’ve found that 10 meters (about 32 ft) is good for most cases. After 15 meters I’ve found it’s difficult to hank up the line when I’m done.

  • @willtosurvive1609
    @willtosurvive1609 Год назад +1

    Awesome video bro! Saw it on my feed, subscribed and liked. Keep it up.

  • @larrywiley1804
    @larrywiley1804 2 месяца назад

    Just found your site. Excellent,easy approach. Subscribed.

  • @pedroclaro7822
    @pedroclaro7822 Год назад +1

    I like it, nice and simple.

  • @Nobody13325
    @Nobody13325 Год назад +1

    Just subbed, nice addition of the hooks to a quick deploy ridge line 👍

  • @markbough2606
    @markbough2606 Год назад +1

    I use toggled jungle knots but I might try some with that hook on the end instead of the toggle.

  • @podden22
    @podden22 Год назад +1

    Oh man, those guy lines are so neat! Nice woodland you have there too!

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +1

      I moved from Ohio to Virginia just to play with those trees! Lol

  • @CharlesBevien
    @CharlesBevien 2 месяца назад

    Awesome! Thank-you for sharing your system with us. I am going to make a similar system. Again, thank-you.

  • @mattallengroupatREAL
    @mattallengroupatREAL 10 месяцев назад

    Can you put a link to the hooks in the discription?

  • @biranit50
    @biranit50 7 месяцев назад

    You are starting with... RIDGE LINE!!

  • @jackvoss5841
    @jackvoss5841 9 месяцев назад

    Good thinking.
    Courtesy of Half Vast Flying

  • @pedroclaro7822
    @pedroclaro7822 10 месяцев назад

    10/10! Different setup, interesting and innovative. I’ll use the hooks and setup with the stake attached to my optional guylines.
    The ones I keep on the tarp permanently I have installed a bit of elastic cord on the tarp to keep tension as it gets wet and expands slightly, and then plastic tensioners on those thst I can adjust just as easily as the Prussik knots. (But they probably wear out the guyline faster because they depend on a single line being bent and held through friction).
    For the ridgeline I use jungle knots instead of the hooks - as show by Frank Bush in his “Ultimate ridgeline system”. they work like rope shackles. I’ll keep this cuz I have already ordered the cordage to do so, It’ll end up lighter (probably) and I can fold the ridgeline in the tarp without worrying about it being punctured.
    A continuous ridgeline is better cuz you can use it to hang stuff under the tarp, and it’s an extra safety between you and a widow maker.
    Thank you so much for the great video. Super informative and concise. Love it

  • @mudmug1
    @mudmug1 Год назад +1

    Nice work

  • @TheOpenboater
    @TheOpenboater 7 месяцев назад

    Great video and some really good tips and tricks. The one thing I would do differently is to suspend my Tarp under the ridge line with mini carabiners so that the tarp doesn't come into contact with the ridge line. The movement of the tarp when draped over the line will eventually cause wear on the tarp that we can do without.

  • @Justgolden
    @Justgolden 8 месяцев назад

    Nice job. Building that one. Cheers. Do you have a link for the hooks you used?

  • @sogseal8600
    @sogseal8600 Месяц назад

    How many paracord do you use for your tarp like this ? 5??

  • @Gator-357
    @Gator-357 8 месяцев назад

    You can easily make your own hooks with a wire bender, which is also easily made with a piece of wood and some metal pins, pieces of dowel rod or nails with the heads cut off. It is cheaper to buy a small.length of wire or just use old wire coat hangers

  • @biranit50
    @biranit50 4 месяца назад

    on 0:16 you say you start with the guy line but actualy you start with the ridge line!

  • @biranit50
    @biranit50 4 месяца назад

    i suggest for the 1st tree : just a loop at the end of the main line and the hook on a prusik loop, that will connect to the loop that goes around the tree

  • @Richarddragon22
    @Richarddragon22 Год назад +1

    Bro, Need to stabilize that table. 😄

  • @debstraub8437
    @debstraub8437 7 месяцев назад

    Great idea! Pretty slick how this works :)

  • @scottbaker9200
    @scottbaker9200 7 месяцев назад

    Best yet!
    Thank you brother.

  • @SuperMeiMei
    @SuperMeiMei Месяц назад

    this is genius! i need this! thx man!

  • @biranit50
    @biranit50 9 месяцев назад

    i sugget an overhand stopper knot at the edge of the line

  • @gregsanderson2470
    @gregsanderson2470 Год назад +1

    I like your set up🎉
    For your video try a bright cord for visibility.

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад

      Lol so I actually bought some orange paracord but it was so cheap and flimsy I basically burned and entire video because I hated working with it so much! Lesson learned

    • @gregsanderson2470
      @gregsanderson2470 Год назад +1

      @@DevildogBushcraft my nice wife bought a whole spool of fake paracord...I feel your pain.

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +2

      Oof 😂

  • @biranit50
    @biranit50 7 месяцев назад

    hooks are stainless steel or plain iron?

  • @BUZZKILLJRJR
    @BUZZKILLJRJR 6 месяцев назад

    This is pretty awesome I did the same kind of idea but I put toggles on the end a longer pressic loop, at the end of the loop a toggle.
    The same way you did by making a bite then passing the toggle back through the loop to hold my tarp in place or the end of my line.

    • @biranit50
      @biranit50 6 месяцев назад

      I combined 2 systms . On the 1st anchor (tree?) I use a bowline at the end of the line and a following sliding toggle on the main line, and on the other end your system with the hook on the prusik loop. Works like a charm .The toggle mecanism is more versatile, suits also small anchors where the hook might fall off.

  • @gencher8759
    @gencher8759 3 месяца назад

    гениальной! респект!

  • @Captainpaulbtyhtr
    @Captainpaulbtyhtr Месяц назад

    PURE GENIUS

  • @matthysfritz7170
    @matthysfritz7170 6 месяцев назад

    Where in SA can I get this kind af tarps,, I can only find thick and heavy ones,
    Thanks,

    • @paddor
      @paddor 6 месяцев назад

      I think that’s a tarp from DD Hammocks

  • @morpheus9433
    @morpheus9433 4 месяца назад

    Ótima dica!
    Show!

  • @Occupuyourspine
    @Occupuyourspine 4 месяца назад

    I like the hook idea
    🤠

  • @mr.somebody1493
    @mr.somebody1493 4 месяца назад

    Good video.

  • @229dave46
    @229dave46 Год назад

    Awesome set up!! May I ask the size of the tart you are using?

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад

      Thanks! It’s a 7’-8” by 7’-8” nylon pathfinder tarp by self reliance outfitters

  • @Venom-nk8nd
    @Venom-nk8nd 5 месяцев назад

    🇵🇬.,,.

  • @Belizzle
    @Belizzle Год назад

    I don't know why I've never thought to "permanently" attach the stakes to the ends of my guy lines. I'm going to try these guy lines but instead of the hooks I'm going to use a couple of the prusiks off the Frank Bush ridgeline I made out of self-interwoven bankline.

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад +1

      I used arbor knots to secure them to the stakes. Not sure if I mentioned that. Rock on!

    • @michaelzimmerman8959
      @michaelzimmerman8959 10 месяцев назад

      Amazing!

    • @kalvinnoble488
      @kalvinnoble488 2 месяца назад

      @@DevildogBushcraft No, nothing was mentioned what knot was used to attach your guy-lines to your tent stakes. Thanks for the answer in what knot was used.

  • @daryenmirabal2656
    @daryenmirabal2656 Год назад

    What soze is the twine your using?

    • @kalvinnoble488
      @kalvinnoble488 2 месяца назад

      He isn't using twine. He's using 550 para-chord for his ridge-line and for his guy-lines. You could also use #56 bank line for your guy-lines and your prussic knots instead of 550 para-chord.

  • @donnietriplett1714
    @donnietriplett1714 4 месяца назад +1

    Hell yeah bushcrafter that smokes I'm a subscriber.. 😂

  • @paulkusal7929
    @paulkusal7929 7 месяцев назад

    How long are the guy lines? Please and thanks

    • @tylersimplot13
      @tylersimplot13 7 месяцев назад +1

      Im guessing based on how much was hanging before he wrapped it around his hand and the amount there compared to the 30ft ridgeline it was 10ft to 15ft

    • @paulkusal7929
      @paulkusal7929 7 месяцев назад

      Thanks

  • @adventureswithfrodo2721
    @adventureswithfrodo2721 Год назад

    Just a other copy cat

    • @DevildogBushcraft
      @DevildogBushcraft  Год назад

      I had no idea someone’s done this before

    • @mattallengroupatREAL
      @mattallengroupatREAL 10 месяцев назад

      Youve made it on YT when you get a ManKaren hater!
      @@DevildogBushcraft

    • @JohannesWOW
      @JohannesWOW 8 месяцев назад

      @@DevildogBushcraft We've seen them with the wood pegs but this is different in using hooks.
      But seeing this video, got my mind running wild. Thanks for the great ideas of motivation. Love learning something new.

  • @outdoorsliving464
    @outdoorsliving464 Год назад

    Same ole ridgeline that everyone does but with hooks. Nothing new, nothing special. I would rather use a toggle on the first tree because its less likely to come apart than the hook if there is any slack line. Lets see how many more videos from the Pathfinder School and its instructors you "changed".

    • @hotshot791
      @hotshot791 Год назад +2

      Everyone else who commented except you found this ridge line unique and interesting. Where’s your innovative (new, special) idea? I’d like to see your ridge line set-up. What have you brought, @outdoorsliving464?!

    • @outdoorsliving464
      @outdoorsliving464 Год назад +1

      @@hotshot791 reread my comment. This ridgeline is done by dozens of different bushcraft and survival instructors on RUclips. The only way to do it is with something that acts like a toggle or with the rope its self. It doesn't matter if you use a stick, a hook, hank of rope, or even your shoe. They all work the exact same way. Nobody is changing the way that system functions. They are only changing the material that they are using. It's not innovative, it's not new, and it's not special. It's the exact same thing, over and over and over again. They just use different material to do the exact same thing to make people like you think it's a new idea. It's not.

    • @hotshot791
      @hotshot791 Год назад

      I respectfully disagree, as does everyone else who commented. I, like many, many others, have seen dozens of ridgeline variants-jungle knots, toggles, etc. His knotless hook variation is unique. Also, you seemed to place the “invention” of the ridge line set-up with Pathfinder school. No disrespect to them, but I bet it predates them. As Dave and many of his instructors have military experience, I assumed their ridgeline rendition likely originated with our military. Just thinking…

    • @outdoorsliving464
      @outdoorsliving464 Год назад

      @@hotshot791 it probably does predate pathfinder. They are just very popular that's why I mentioned them. You can have whatever opinion you want to have. Unfortunately you can't argue with physics and how things bind against each other. This person only changed the materials used. He used hooks. That's all he changed. People can use whatever they want but it's the exact same function as the last guy that used something different.

    • @hotshot791
      @hotshot791 Год назад +1

      I get your point. I don’t think he claimed a new invention, just an innovation, a modification that many of us appreciated. Perhaps this is just a difference of Symantec’s. Happy Memorial Day weekend. Perhaps what’s lost is the bigger picture: let’s all get outside under a tarp this weekend with whichever ridge line configure works best for you!