With a reliable car Vittorio would have been capable to be a podium presence in all the races of that season. March 751 was really an awful car in 1975
The March had the potential to do some good things with it but the reliability is awful, the Jordan didn't have any potential, you can put Michael in that car and the results aint changing much, and the reliability is also awful relative to that era, the Jordan easily the worse car out of the two
One could argue that the Lotus-BRM from 1966 was the worst car to ever win a race. Without the one win by Jim Clark (the only F1 win ever by a V16 powered car btw) said team would have only scored 4 points. Though it is open to debate if it was the car or the engine that was the main issue. My 2 cents ar eon the engine as the V16 was too heavy and unreliable. But also: the season had only 9 races and 15 teams (the word team is a bit misleading in the early F1 years though)
The Lotus 43-BRM would be my choice as well. As to whether it was the car, the engine or both - well, Colin Chapman effectively took the 43 chassis, modified it a little and swapped the BRM V16 for a V8 and the result was the Lotus 49-Ford, which won its first race and was arguably the apex of late 60s F1 Design - and it was effectively the Evo version of the worst car to have ever won a GP…
Especially when underdogs came to the fore when they traveled to the South American races like Shadow and Ligier or the Marches in Austria with Brambilla and Watson and Monza with Peterson.
Gorrilla Brambilla,! This race happened in the 4th year of my obsession with F1; I remember it with a great deal of sadness I was a Donohue fan from his Indy/Can Am exploits. Here in the US the news coverage was all on Mark, with the race results just an afterthought.
Jordan had a much worse car then march did in the respective years!! Also remember, it's pretty impossible to come 12th in constructors championship for Jordan in 2003 when only 10 teams is competing!!!
@@nedzosf1gridbox These 15 minute or so video's work the best for this sort of topic. In depth enough without losing attention span. Great era of F1. Remember watching with my father and grandfather Lauda, Schekter, Prost live on teevee!
Thought I’d jump in and say March’s former HQ resides in Bicester in England, it’s now a twin business building with the garage sector where the cars were worked on now being an MOT garage, and the office side of the building now a small motorsports related business. Best part is I work for a company on the opposite side of the road so I get to see the building every time I go to and leave work 😊
@@nedzosf1gridbox Sadly not. The guy who owns the MOT garage doesn’t even know what Formula 1 is, and the motorsport business only has a few signed framed images of the cars when they became Leyton House. Other than a photo that compares the site from the 70’s to 2019 there is no way anyone would even know it used to be an F1 teams HQ which is sad.
Actually, the March 751 (and 761, which is basically the same) was a good car, generally doing well in qualifying and - apart from Austria 1975 - also winning Monza 1976 with Ronnie Peterson. But according to me, the March team was not very good, dispersing its energy over too many cars (often 4) while also manufacturing chassis for different series. And apart from Ronnie Peterson, the drivers were rather mediocre and inconsistent. Vittorio Brambilla was surely a fast and fearless driver, but he lacked the savvy and racing intelligence to nurse his car to the finish. And he had a tendency to overdrive his car and crashed very often ...
The 751 is one of my all time favourite cars. I have an irrational love for the March, DFV and Hewland combination, specially because they always looked funky in some way
Panis's Ligier-Mugen Honda JS43 has to be one of the worst to win a F1 race. It barely scored many points outside of Monaco. As for Panis's win itself, he somehow overtook cars but also relied on Hill, Schumacher, Villeneuve & Alesi hitting trouble.
The Monza Gorilla was a very good driver, if incident prone. He spent his years in lower formulae blowing up engines trying to keep up with faster cars. So he was a driver who could put a bad car in places it had no right to be, and he was excellent in the wet. Sadly, he was concussed by debris in the accident that would take Ronnie Peterson’s life - and when he came back, the old speed was just not there. RIP Vittorio Brambilla
I think the Torro Rosso that gave Vettel his first win at least deserves a mention...I worded that backwards, Vettel gave that car it's win....that win is a story in itself.
His results, especially in qualifying, in an expedient F2 chassis with a V-8 stuck in are the eight thousand pound gorilla in how this man has been treated by history 🦍 🦍 🦍
@@nedzosf1gridbox Your description of Herbert's win for Stewart was bollox - he read the changeable conditions correctly when others didn't, he stayed on track when other were sliding off or making an arse of their pit stops - the only "luck" involved for him was Ralf Schumacher's puncture or Michael S being absent with a broken leg. And the Stewart was not a bad car that year - better than many in the midfield.
@@buckfaststradler4629 it’s bad comparative to most cars that win races, which are usually one of only two teams in any given season. Could’ve picked any of Johnny’s race wins tbh, decent driver with lost potential from the brands hatch crash but he only won when guys in front of him went off. I did also mention later on you could say it’s skill when a driver finishes an overly attritional race but that’s not always the case
@@nedzosf1gridbox His other two wins were undoubtedly pretty lucky with Hill and Schumacher eliminating each other - but I reckon his experience was a big factor in the Nurburgring win - he put on the right tyres at the right time, and stayed on track when other more vaunted drivers were sliding off.
Worst car to win a F1 race was Keke Rosberg / Silverstone 1978. Keke won with a miserable Theodore in torrential rain. That is the craziest drive ever. It's not so well remembered because it was a non-GP race. Check it out. Insane. ruclips.net/video/4tNGCq24bbE/видео.html
With a reliable car Vittorio would have been capable to be a podium presence in all the races of that season. March 751 was really an awful car in 1975
Potentially yea
The March had the potential to do some good things with it but the reliability is awful, the Jordan didn't have any potential, you can put Michael in that car and the results aint changing much, and the reliability is also awful relative to that era, the Jordan easily the worse car out of the two
One could argue that the Lotus-BRM from 1966 was the worst car to ever win a race. Without the one win by Jim Clark (the only F1 win ever by a V16 powered car btw) said team would have only scored 4 points. Though it is open to debate if it was the car or the engine that was the main issue. My 2 cents ar eon the engine as the V16 was too heavy and unreliable. But also: the season had only 9 races and 15 teams (the word team is a bit misleading in the early F1 years though)
The Lotus 43-BRM would be my choice as well. As to whether it was the car, the engine or both - well, Colin Chapman effectively took the 43 chassis, modified it a little and swapped the BRM V16 for a V8 and the result was the Lotus 49-Ford, which won its first race and was arguably the apex of late 60s F1 Design - and it was effectively the Evo version of the worst car to have ever won a GP…
8:17 How stunning were 1970's cars....
God..., I miss when F1 was F1.
You and me both!!!!!!!
Especially when underdogs came to the fore when they traveled to the South American races like Shadow and Ligier or the Marches in Austria with Brambilla and Watson and Monza with Peterson.
Gorrilla Brambilla,! This race happened in the 4th year of my obsession with F1; I remember it with a great deal of sadness I was a Donohue fan from his Indy/Can Am exploits. Here in the US the news coverage was all on Mark, with the race results just an afterthought.
Jordan had a much worse car then march did in the respective years!! Also remember, it's pretty impossible to come 12th in constructors championship for Jordan in 2003 when only 10 teams is competing!!!
I did mention that in the video
Great intro...still watching...
Haha, in it for the long haul I see
@@nedzosf1gridbox These 15 minute or so video's work the best for this sort of topic. In depth enough without losing attention span. Great era of F1. Remember watching with my father and grandfather Lauda, Schekter, Prost live on teevee!
Nice video, thank you. Btw, you pronounce the double-Ls in Brambilla.
Ah, I was doing the pronunciation as if he was Spanish, not Italian, that’ll be why
Thought I’d jump in and say March’s former HQ resides in Bicester in England, it’s now a twin business building with the garage sector where the cars were worked on now being an MOT garage, and the office side of the building now a small motorsports related business. Best part is I work for a company on the opposite side of the road so I get to see the building every time I go to and leave work 😊
That’s cool, do the current owners can the history in any way?
@@nedzosf1gridbox Sadly not. The guy who owns the MOT garage doesn’t even know what Formula 1 is, and the motorsport business only has a few signed framed images of the cars when they became Leyton House. Other than a photo that compares the site from the 70’s to 2019 there is no way anyone would even know it used to be an F1 teams HQ which is sad.
Imagine owning an MOT garage without liking F1, what a spanner
Actually, the March 751 (and 761, which is basically the same) was a good car, generally doing well in qualifying and - apart from Austria 1975 - also winning Monza 1976 with Ronnie Peterson. But according to me, the March team was not very good, dispersing its energy over too many cars (often 4) while also manufacturing chassis for different series. And apart from Ronnie Peterson, the drivers were rather mediocre and inconsistent. Vittorio Brambilla was surely a fast and fearless driver, but he lacked the savvy and racing intelligence to nurse his car to the finish. And he had a tendency to overdrive his car and crashed very often ...
The 751 is one of my all time favourite cars. I have an irrational love for the March, DFV and Hewland combination, specially because they always looked funky in some way
The orange too
@@nedzosf1gridbox yeah, that orange rocks, but Lombardi's and Stuck's cars also had nice liveries, with their respective flags
Panis's Ligier-Mugen Honda JS43 has to be one of the worst to win a F1 race. It barely scored many points outside of Monaco. As for Panis's win itself, he somehow overtook cars but also relied on Hill, Schumacher, Villeneuve & Alesi hitting trouble.
I still stand by the Jordan being the worst but you make a valid point, that March was definitely close to it.
This car looks hilarious by the way
It does
The Monza Gorilla was a very good driver, if incident prone. He spent his years in lower formulae blowing up engines trying to keep up with faster cars. So he was a driver who could put a bad car in places it had no right to be, and he was excellent in the wet. Sadly, he was concussed by debris in the accident that would take Ronnie Peterson’s life - and when he came back, the old speed was just not there. RIP Vittorio Brambilla
I think the Torro Rosso that gave Vettel his first win at least deserves a mention...I worded that backwards, Vettel gave that car it's win....that win is a story in itself.
That car was often a points scorer
Pretty decent car in Vettel's hands
The best race finish of all time, just like we do in video games!
Panis was a great driver. Never had a racing car capable of winning races...
To finish first, first you must finish.
Great memories
His results, especially in qualifying, in an expedient F2 chassis with a V-8 stuck in are the eight thousand pound gorilla in how this man has been treated by history 🦍 🦍 🦍
😂 agree on Lombardi, she was not a good driver by F1 standarts !
Wonder which car, the infamous/famous F2012, STR3 or the MCL35 lol!
Brambilla spun after he won😂
He could work in a casino because he spins to win
Did you saw the race? Very big balls Brambilla would have.
@@joaom2057 indeed, f1 today wouldn’t even THINK about racing in those conditions
I forgot this was gonna be a thing😂
Tripe
Eh?
@@nedzosf1gridbox Your description of Herbert's win for Stewart was bollox - he read the changeable conditions correctly when others didn't, he stayed on track when other were sliding off or making an arse of their pit stops - the only "luck" involved for him was Ralf Schumacher's puncture or Michael S being absent with a broken leg. And the Stewart was not a bad car that year - better than many in the midfield.
@@buckfaststradler4629 it’s bad comparative to most cars that win races, which are usually one of only two teams in any given season. Could’ve picked any of Johnny’s race wins tbh, decent driver with lost potential from the brands hatch crash but he only won when guys in front of him went off. I did also mention later on you could say it’s skill when a driver finishes an overly attritional race but that’s not always the case
@@nedzosf1gridbox His other two wins were undoubtedly pretty lucky with Hill and Schumacher eliminating each other - but I reckon his experience was a big factor in the Nurburgring win - he put on the right tyres at the right time, and stayed on track when other more vaunted drivers were sliding off.
@buckfaststradler4629 fair enough
Worst car to win a F1 race was Keke Rosberg / Silverstone 1978. Keke won with a miserable Theodore in torrential rain. That is the craziest drive ever. It's not so well remembered because it was a non-GP race. Check it out. Insane. ruclips.net/video/4tNGCq24bbE/видео.html
I actually mentioned that in a video I made about Finnish drivers. Mental