The impression I've always had of Ronnie Peterson was that he would put the team above himself. It's common knowledge that he could have beaten Mario Andretti to the 1978 title, if he'd been allowed to race him on equal footing, but he stuck to the wording of the contract without complaining. I think his 1971 season was the greatest winless season in F1 history. Driving the horrifically ugly March 711, in the 11 races that year, he recorded 4 2nd places and 5 podiums and only 2 DNF'S, the only driver better than him, Jackie Stewart
@gustavoantonelli if you mean 1971, in some ways I agree, but there are those who would say Chris Amon should have won that race, he was leading by nearly 50 seconds when a freak accident occurred. While trying to remove a tear-off strip from his visor, he accidentally ripped off the whole visor. All he could do, with his eyes exposed to the 320kph wind blasting his eyes was cruise slowly round to eventually finish a distant 6th place
I think you kind of forgot Wolfgang von Trips in the conversation for best driver to never win a title. Sure, he doesn't have nearly as many wins, but out of the only 2 fulltime seasons he raced, he was a title contender in one, leading the championship when he was tragically killed in the Italian GP.
Von Trips was clearly slower than teammate Phil Hill in 1961 and only had the chance to win the title mainly because his Ferrari was the best car in the field. He considered Stirling Moss to be a clearly better driver than himself. Ronnie Peterson was visibly faster and more courageous than the other drivers, dominated teammates like Fittipaldi, Ickx or Lauda and won (or almost won) races in cars, which were far from being the best of the grid.
People often make fun of Marko for speaking his mind, without knowing that the guy won Le Mans in fearsome Porsche 917 and was Lauda's mentor in his early career.They remained friends until Lauda died in 2019.
@@nedzosf1gridbox No doubt had he remained at Brabham he would have been world champ in either ‘66 or ‘67. Instead we got to look at the AAR Eagle, one of the most beautiful F1 cars ever made…
@@leandroboado8430 had the car in 1980/1981, was second best to jones, jones should have won 1981 as well but had one of the most unluckiest seasons ever
In 1974, Ronnnie won 3 races in a 4 year old Lotus 72. He even drove it the next full season - nevertheless he ended the 1975 season ahead of Mario Andretti, Alan Jones, Mark Donohue, and Jacky Ickx. That's how good Ronnie was.
A few years ago I read an article in a British magazine (simply called F1 I think) and they did an article on who they thought were the then 10 greatest drivers in F1 history. There was only one driver on the list who never won a world championship: Gilles Villeneuve.
Stirling Moss definitely. Peterson is up there. Did you know that from the current drivers Valtteri Bottas has most wins without a title (10 wins, 21 poles)?
My only claim to fame is that I spotted Ronnie Peterson as a "great" in a televised F2 race from Crystal Palace. My absolute motor racing hero, although drifting cars on stupid wide slicks wasn't technically a great idea. He was a rubbish development driver, but in a race was just, well, great.
A bit sad not to hear you mention Didier Pironi. He never really gets the love he deserves in my opinion, seeing as both he and Villeneuve we´re easily going to be fighting for the championship in 82 if it wasn´t for their respective crashes. I belive that both could have and probably should have been world champions and that both would have achieved that if it wasn´t for their careers being cut short. To me, it´s always felt like they we´re parallels of Senna and Prost. One amazingly gifted and fast and the other incredibly presize and consistent. The loss of both of these amazing drivers is truly one of the biggest in F1 history, simply because of the potential they both shared.
Ronnie deserved a championship. Mario ought his one to Ronnie. But He was not the only one, neither the greatest. Ickx, Reutemann and Moss also had enough merits to achieve their ones.
My list of the best drivers to never become world champion: 1) Moss 2) Peterson 3) Gilles 4) Reutemann 5) Bellof 6) Barrichello 7) Webber 8) Ickx 9) Gurney 10) Tony Brise
I always enjoy your vids, even when I don't agree with your takes. Would you ever be willing to turn your attention to North Wales's only F1 driver, Tom Pryce, and his tragic tale?
The impression I've always had of Ronnie Peterson was that he would put the team above himself. It's common knowledge that he could have beaten Mario Andretti to the 1978 title, if he'd been allowed to race him on equal footing, but he stuck to the wording of the contract without complaining. I think his 1971 season was the greatest winless season in F1 history. Driving the horrifically ugly March 711, in the 11 races that year, he recorded 4 2nd places and 5 podiums and only 2 DNF'S, the only driver better than him, Jackie Stewart
Specially at Monza!
@gustavoantonelli if you mean 1971, in some ways I agree, but there are those who would say Chris Amon should have won that race, he was leading by nearly 50 seconds when a freak accident occurred. While trying to remove a tear-off strip from his visor, he accidentally ripped off the whole visor. All he could do, with his eyes exposed to the 320kph wind blasting his eyes was cruise slowly round to eventually finish a distant 6th place
Ronnie Peterson était, de loin, le meilleur pilote en 78.
Il menait le championnat avant
son accident.
Je crois que Lauda était absent.
Sterling Moss is famously renowned as being the best driver never to win a championship.
I think you kind of forgot Wolfgang von Trips in the conversation for best driver to never win a title. Sure, he doesn't have nearly as many wins, but out of the only 2 fulltime seasons he raced, he was a title contender in one, leading the championship when he was tragically killed in the Italian GP.
@@kukuc96 von Trips didn’t really have the longevity for me to judge his ability, otherwise he would be in contention
Von Trips was clearly slower than teammate Phil Hill in 1961 and only had the chance to win the title mainly because his Ferrari was the best car in the field. He considered Stirling Moss to be a clearly better driver than himself.
Ronnie Peterson was visibly faster and more courageous than the other drivers, dominated teammates like Fittipaldi, Ickx or Lauda and won (or almost won) races in cars, which were far from being the best of the grid.
People often make fun of Marko for speaking his mind, without knowing that the guy won Le Mans in fearsome Porsche 917 and was Lauda's mentor in his early career.They remained friends until Lauda died in 2019.
He was definitely a decent driver
There is a reason Ronnie was nicknamed "Superswede".
He was absolutely one of the, if not the, fastest drivers of his era.
Great video 😁
Another fine video Nedzo. I would add Dan Gurney to the short list with Moss, Ronnie, Gilles and ickx as greatest to never win the title
ickx is a bit overrated
Fair, I didn’t think of him
Carlos Reutemann as well
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No doubt had he remained at Brabham he would have been world champ in either ‘66 or ‘67.
Instead we got to look at the AAR Eagle, one of the most beautiful F1 cars ever made…
@@leandroboado8430 had the car in 1980/1981, was second best to jones, jones should have won 1981 as well but had one of the most unluckiest seasons ever
In 1974, Ronnnie won 3 races in a 4 year old Lotus 72. He even drove it the next full season - nevertheless he ended the 1975 season ahead of Mario Andretti, Alan Jones, Mark Donohue, and Jacky Ickx. That's how good Ronnie was.
Ronnie Peterson was Kimi Raikkonen of the 1970s. They don't produce them like the Nordic nations do.
A few years ago I read an article in a British magazine (simply called F1 I think) and they did an article on who they thought were the then 10 greatest drivers in F1 history. There was only one driver on the list who never won a world championship: Gilles Villeneuve.
Yea, I think Gilles is overrated in that regard.
The world championship is overrated.
They're called Grand Prix for a reason.
Stirling Moss definitely. Peterson is up there. Did you know that from the current drivers Valtteri Bottas has most wins without a title (10 wins, 21 poles)?
Yea I knew that about Bottas
Yet this season doesn't have a point, that's f1 for you!
Stirling Moss and Peterson are the major names.
My only claim to fame is that I spotted Ronnie Peterson as a "great" in a televised F2 race from Crystal Palace. My absolute motor racing hero, although drifting cars on stupid wide slicks wasn't technically a great idea. He was a rubbish development driver, but in a race was just, well, great.
Great documentary about a driver I had never heard of before! Thanks!
No problem!
A bit sad not to hear you mention Didier Pironi. He never really gets the love he deserves in my opinion, seeing as both he and Villeneuve we´re easily going to be fighting for the championship in 82 if it wasn´t for their respective crashes. I belive that both could have and probably should have been world champions and that both would have achieved that if it wasn´t for their careers being cut short. To me, it´s always felt like they we´re parallels of Senna and Prost. One amazingly gifted and fast and the other incredibly presize and consistent. The loss of both of these amazing drivers is truly one of the biggest in F1 history, simply because of the potential they both shared.
@@erikhalinaronsson1175 I covered the 1982 season in another video btw
Ronnie deserved a championship. Mario ought his one to Ronnie. But He was not the only one, neither the greatest. Ickx, Reutemann and Moss also had enough merits to achieve their ones.
Reutemann wasn’t a driver I considered but you’re right
My list of the best drivers to never become world champion: 1) Moss 2) Peterson 3) Gilles 4) Reutemann 5) Bellof 6) Barrichello 7) Webber 8) Ickx 9) Gurney 10) Tony Brise
Chris Amon is a great shout
I'd put Amon at 10, and for just pure potential talent, poor old Prycey at 11, then Brise. Otherwise, you're right.
J'aurais ajouté Jacques Laffite ainsi que Regazzoni.
Ils méritaitent largement un titre.
Dan Gurney - one of very few US-born drivers who could turn both left AND right!
Greatest driver without Champion title?
Hmmm, Barrichello?
Moss
😂
Heroic Mr Hilter refernce on 2024 yt lol.😂
I always enjoy your vids, even when I don't agree with your takes.
Would you ever be willing to turn your attention to North Wales's only F1 driver, Tom Pryce, and his tragic tale?
Yes, I have planned on doing a video on him
@@nedzosf1gridbox Thank you muchly.
What about Nikita Mazepin?
Haha
Add Chris Amon
I did add Chris Amon to the list of those in contention
Sterling Moss was buy far the best driver never to win a World title, do some research
I have done research, which you’d know if you watched the video and listened to what I said