Next-Generation Pay-To-Win (Elite Dangerous)

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  • Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
  • 30 Apr 3310: In this week's news, Titan Hadad is a long way off, in more ways than one. And we deep-dive into some of the amazing new pay-to-win ships that the Pilots' Federation might* be tempted to put on sale in the ARX store.
    00:00 Introduction
    00:44 Hadad: A Long Way Off
    02:58 Next-Generation Pay-To-Win
    • Mechan's Guide To Thar...
    *The word "Might" is doing quite a lot of heavy lifting there.
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Комментарии • 99

  • @Jaaxfo
    @Jaaxfo 2 месяца назад +36

    Mark 7 Bucky baller: It'll hang in the air the same way bricks don't

    • @parakart
      @parakart 2 месяца назад +1

      Vogon constructor fleet module doing its job

    • @pewjackman
      @pewjackman 2 месяца назад +2

      If only it was wrapped around a large gold brick

  • @57thorns
    @57thorns 2 месяца назад +22

    And this is why it was a huge mistake from Frontier to not keep up their steady stream of articles on Galnet News.
    As for your prebuilt ship ideas I think they are spot on. We love the game, but sometimes it feels like the people at Frontier has lost touch with how the game is played.

    • @arch_..
      @arch_.. 2 месяца назад +1

      they should fix and tighten gameplay loops instead of offering a "skip the grind" option, that just incentivizes grindier gameplay.
      I'm worried about new content, I just hope it isn't worse than the grind it already is.

    • @xShadowXscarx
      @xShadowXscarx 2 месяца назад

      @@arch_.. I have never “grinded” in a decade of playing. I just play the game and I have everything I need and want. 🫡

  • @Hotdog6606
    @Hotdog6606 2 месяца назад +14

    The 20Ly asp killed me :D

  • @unalive_feline
    @unalive_feline 2 месяца назад +32

    And regarding streamers early access to the python mk2. It was clarified that they are getting an early build version of the game for a live demo to the community. They are NOT getting the ship in the live game a full week ahead of everyone else

    • @eddiscovery1921
      @eddiscovery1921 2 месяца назад +6

      Fantastic for them.. Meanwhile the people who bring you Inara Spansh Coriolis EDSY Elite Dangerous Discovery EDMC EDDI.. what do they get.. I'll let you guess. Support for the new features may be delayed on our sites/tools due to no support from Frontier (as of 30/4)

    • @fishstix4209
      @fishstix4209 2 месяца назад

      30/4?

    • @fishstix4209
      @fishstix4209 2 месяца назад

      30/4=7.5

    • @Sighman
      @Sighman 2 месяца назад +6

      @@fishstix4209 The DD/MM date format 95% of the world's population uses ;-)

    • @fishstix4209
      @fishstix4209 2 месяца назад

      @Sighman funny when I'm looking up a date I usually wonder the month to turn the calendar to before the day. It's odd to put the day and then have to flip for a month that you hear later.

  • @MajGHOB
    @MajGHOB 2 месяца назад +9

    gona have to buy that pay to win hauler!

  • @saffieification
    @saffieification 2 месяца назад +11

    brilliant so funny great job guys as ever love it 🤣 o7 cmdrs

  • @ToCoSo
    @ToCoSo 2 месяца назад +2

    Elite needs more Flock wallpaper!! Excellent pay to win ships, how can us long time commanders keep up with this kind of OP ships!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the good laughs!

  • @cmdr501generalvenator3
    @cmdr501generalvenator3 2 месяца назад +3

    Love your work guys, o7

  • @marsMayflower
    @marsMayflower 2 месяца назад +5

    I need something to spend my arx on since effdev don't feel the need to give me anything new and cool for my beloved vette

  • @gamersforge
    @gamersforge Месяц назад

    LOOOOOL :D
    Oh my, that hauler asp with 4E drives and "top of the line 4A FSD with shielded/braced and top of the line 20Ly range". then the wallpaper skin to finish... AAAAHAHAH
    Then you go on to a RACER T-7! SPILLED MY COFFEE! Damn you! :D

  • @BeanGTR
    @BeanGTR 2 месяца назад

    woah ! I need that Hauler !!

  • @tycorcoran4490
    @tycorcoran4490 2 месяца назад

    Anyone out there got the link to the backers page to download the game. New HD (don't ask) but cannot find the page anywhere

  • @Datan0de
    @Datan0de 2 месяца назад

    You can never have too many AFMUs!* Also, I'd like to nominate Wotherspoon as the next Engineer. These are some top notch ship designs!*
    *(Said no one ever.)

  • @alexbenis4726
    @alexbenis4726 2 месяца назад

    Gota get me one of those kick-ass haulers!!

  • @Roblstar
    @Roblstar 2 месяца назад +3

    LOL!
    Sarcasm mode engaged... ;)

  • @plflaherty1
    @plflaherty1 2 месяца назад +2

    Bounty hunting hauler! LOL Luv the trolling.

  • @TarPalantir2015
    @TarPalantir2015 2 месяца назад

    I’ll be grinding Arx for that bounty hunting Hauler. Chef’s kiss

  • @AgentExeider
    @AgentExeider 2 месяца назад +1

    You guys got me, at first I was thinking you were in support of the pre-builds then I listened to the suggested stats of you hypothetical builds, and laughed out loud. Thank you. You basically got it. Now only are the prebuilds NOT really Pay 2 Win, which is bad enough, but what IS being offered is an absolute rip off

  • @fishstix4209
    @fishstix4209 2 месяца назад

    3:38 😂😂😂 at the ship builds to follow

  • @I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity
    @I_am_a_human_not_a_commodity Месяц назад

    White Knight mode engaged!

  • @rst872
    @rst872 2 месяца назад

    is it bad that i really want that asp scout paint job

  • @beyondaeon
    @beyondaeon 2 месяца назад

    I was waiting for the Exploration Cutter Build !

    • @jayloopgamingchannel4926
      @jayloopgamingchannel4926 2 месяца назад

      You mean exploration Federal Corvette build! With its powerful, and not at all undersize 6A Frame Shift Drive module pre-engineered with faster boot sequence and stripped down experimental effect to save some hefty weight.

    • @beyondaeon
      @beyondaeon 2 месяца назад

      @@jayloopgamingchannel4926 Ok I will Build this tonight and see how it works !

  • @suavevalen
    @suavevalen 2 месяца назад +2

    I love you guys

  • @meidomiseri
    @meidomiseri 2 месяца назад

    You may have been joking but you just described the perfect Type 7 build

  • @tiberiusdave252
    @tiberiusdave252 2 месяца назад

    Great tongue in cheek new ships: hilarious-it really shows that this is not pay 2 win!

  • @ener5361
    @ener5361 2 месяца назад

    What can you win in Elite Dangerous?

  • @CONTINGENCY_sys
    @CONTINGENCY_sys Месяц назад

    Those ships used for anything bypasses ship loss mechanics, bypasses durational accumulations, bypasses skill allocation in the seat, is accessible outside of solo, it is accessible outside of starter location. Its exploitable. It does not follow the same measure of success and fail removing play and replacing it with pay. Deny it but the definition stands. You pay to win based off of the mechanics that have been in and remain measured within the gamespace that is ELITE DANGEROUS.

  • @the_rat_run
    @the_rat_run 2 месяца назад

    Your tongue must have been choking you, stuck in cheek for so long... 🤣
    I may be watching a P2 stream later today, just curiosity, of course!

  • @meoka2368
    @meoka2368 2 месяца назад

    Heh... now I wanna make a rail Hauler

  • @MartinG8199991
    @MartinG8199991 2 месяца назад +1

    I'd like in game credits to buy materials!

  • @xShadowXscarx
    @xShadowXscarx 2 месяца назад +3

    Hilarious 😂

  • @mikewaterfield3599
    @mikewaterfield3599 2 месяца назад

    A scout……. An asp scout……. Seriously? The T7……… hilarious! A ship you could actually hit with torpedos.

  • @paralleluniversesphotograp1830
    @paralleluniversesphotograp1830 2 месяца назад

    There is nothing pay to win and that surprised me positively

  • @GhostGiraffe
    @GhostGiraffe 2 месяца назад

    hilarious!

    • @GalnetDigest
      @GalnetDigest  2 месяца назад

      Thank you. We've had some interesting comments on this one!

  • @Sihmunath
    @Sihmunath 2 месяца назад

    So still nothing worth going back after 3 years brake.

  • @vepeu
    @vepeu 2 месяца назад +1

    gain ground from kickstarter, then treat your player base like cash cows. Yeah thats just going down great. fuck Fdev, fuck tencent for having a shareholder %

    • @chrisgood8438
      @chrisgood8438 2 месяца назад

      You know tencent are a minority shareholder and realistically have naff all say in anything

  • @dmain6735
    @dmain6735 2 месяца назад

    :)

  • @user-sx5ls7wj8q
    @user-sx5ls7wj8q 2 месяца назад

    You guys are weird.. but I dig it...

  • @hakunai7227
    @hakunai7227 2 месяца назад

    Its not pay to win its pay to rebuy

  • @adrianwilliams6577
    @adrianwilliams6577 2 месяца назад

    Pay to Win? No, Frontier should not be proud.

  • @Zum1985
    @Zum1985 2 месяца назад +1

    According To AX Specialists 😂😂😂 You Mean... According To Experienced AX Pilots That's All... Mechan Not In That Group For Recommending The Mamba For Titan Bombing... Worse Ship Ever For Bombing Titan... Next To No Fuel, Next To No Optional Internals... And As For That Chieftain Recommended By Mechan And Frontier... Both Are At My Disapproval

  • @tetiitet
    @tetiitet 2 месяца назад

    Ah yes the best asp scout is p2w

  • @slingitsideways
    @slingitsideways 2 месяца назад

    I think the pre builds are a great idea, and so are the early access ships. It's done the right way, no A rate grade 5 ships to be had. Just a handy foot up, and for just 10quid. No £1000 ships P2W here.
    For years the forums have been full of "I'd pay for a new ship, if frontier would gives us one". And now it's full of "it's gone P2W!" This is why I stay away from the forums.

  • @alexnowak604
    @alexnowak604 2 месяца назад +3

    It's not about the ship or the build it's about the financial model precedent this pay for ingame Items sets... It's is a slimy dirty game of phycological manipulations for money. People generally don't like being manipulated for money when they are spending their free time.

  • @LucasCarter2
    @LucasCarter2 2 месяца назад +1

    It's more pay to participate in the end game content. The ships are still inferior to manually engineered ships after all.

    • @raghav1026
      @raghav1026 2 месяца назад

      Yes, but the builds are so bad that i doubt a new player could make it work for that. Can’t buy skill.

  • @Dibbdroid
    @Dibbdroid 2 месяца назад

    Pay to win what?

  • @pewjackman
    @pewjackman 2 месяца назад +1

    All the Star Citizen players that have been teased by ED players for buying ships with $$$ are now having a laugh at us. I am a player of both so i'm laughing at myself??
    And if anyone from FDev are reading this, I only went to the dark side (SC) when you cut off our space legs! 😠 I found my legs in the Stanton system 😜

    • @catladygames_
      @catladygames_ 2 месяца назад +1

      Just buy a real PC for games, instead of overpriced toy... Desktop more powerful than any of this nonsensical devices you're playing at can be build for fraction of the price.

    • @pewjackman
      @pewjackman 2 месяца назад

      @@catladygames_ hehe my system is a bleeding edge overpriced work station used for animation and rendering. Bloody good for games though :P

  • @anonemus2971
    @anonemus2971 2 месяца назад +2

    The new ships they want to sell are anything but pay to win. If you would like to understand what pay to win really means, go play World of Tanks or War Thunder for a month

  • @TheHighlander71
    @TheHighlander71 2 месяца назад +2

    Frankly I think it's a mistake to call this "pay-to-win" at all and we should stop referring to it as that. The term "pay-to-win" is relevant to competitive games where paying for gear that helps you defeat other players plays a role. In Elite Dangerous this would only be relevant in pvp combat, where we all know that simply buying a ready made ship will never help you win any battle. For all of the other in-game mechanics like exploration, trading, etc. there is no winning involved at all.
    So please, stop perpetuating this term. It has an unduely negative meaning that does not belong in elite dangerous.

  • @silentjay3272
    @silentjay3272 2 месяца назад

    Man I wish I was winning instead of whining. o7

  • @bloodwing9597
    @bloodwing9597 2 месяца назад +1

    They have to make up the money they lost from canceling console development somehow, and WHO praised them for doing it ???

  • @frankchapman9464
    @frankchapman9464 2 месяца назад

    Not really pay to win...

  • @mackeysasser420
    @mackeysasser420 2 месяца назад

    OMG all these people talking about pay to win 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ there is no skill boost to it at all and it is trying to raise some money (by skipping a tiny bit of a grind) and everyone looses their S*** its NOT pay to win you doles, who previously wouldnt stop complaining about the grind. I want to see some engineering material packs. I would spend real money on that for sure.

    • @kudosbudo
      @kudosbudo 2 месяца назад

      Wait you wanna pay to skip the grind instead of having it redesigned to not be crap? Oof

    • @mackeysasser420
      @mackeysasser420 2 месяца назад

      @kudosbudo there is only one way to have anyone redesign anything or even add anything new to the game, and that's to bring in money. Without a revenue stream coming in they can't do anything. And to do that they need to sell things people would buy. And I have done the grind already. Spend a weekend hanging out playing the game and you will have enough for quite a few projects. It's just repetitive and kinda boring ( for the engineer materials especially) and I would very much pay to skip that. It's not like I haven't done my fair share of the grind, I have quite a big fleet of engineered ships. But to make life easier I would for sure take my butt to a material trader and 0 out the categories I was buying and refill my matts. Personally I don't see anything wrong with grind if there was an option to buy the matts that I need.

  • @Edsel1134
    @Edsel1134 2 месяца назад +2

    Lol calling what they are doing pay to win is a longggggggggg shot!

    • @wstavis3135
      @wstavis3135 2 месяца назад

      Right? The Elite player base is full of whiney morons.

    • @alexnowak604
      @alexnowak604 2 месяца назад +2

      fuck monetization of artificial in game items. Emphasis on the PERIOD

  • @Tony-nt5zd
    @Tony-nt5zd 2 месяца назад +9

    Playing smug about people not liking the concept of ARX-bought ships is ignoring the precedent it sets. If you're fine with the game selling you ships for real money, and you're fine with them selling access to pre-release builds of new ships before anyone else gets ahold of them, you're opening the door for other "great" ideas FDev's money-grubbers will salivate over getting out the door instead of having their devs fix the numerous broken, jank, and unbalanced parts of the game that still don't work and still have little to offer. Don't believe me, look at the entirety of the games industry and all the god-awful trash that publishers and business parasites inject into games instead of focusing on actually making those games good.
    This channel has been entertaining in a lot of ways in the past, but this isn't what I'm here for.

    • @tacosinmahface9819
      @tacosinmahface9819 2 месяца назад +1

      It's really not that deep.

    • @Bazirker
      @Bazirker 2 месяца назад

      They very clearly label it as pay to win? It's even in the title of the video.

    • @tacosinmahface9819
      @tacosinmahface9819 2 месяца назад +3

      If you watch the video, you get to see that it's sarcasm.

    • @gavinnw007
      @gavinnw007 2 месяца назад +5

      get a life, its a game.

    • @wstavis3135
      @wstavis3135 2 месяца назад

      Please go away and whine in your basement.

  • @Nihtglom
    @Nihtglom 2 месяца назад

    grind, grind, grind and more fucking grind. and now pay to win. Elite is dead.

  • @XWeaponify
    @XWeaponify 2 месяца назад

    Damn cant come up with any new game content so you gotta clap at Studios that are actually still pumping stuff out. Stick to Zoos and Roller coasters y'all. Elite is dead in the water

  • @unalive_feline
    @unalive_feline 2 месяца назад +10

    Satire and speculation is not appreciated here!
    If you don’t actually have a lot to report then just say so and cut the video short

    • @57thorns
      @57thorns 2 месяца назад +6

      Speak for yourself, I have always enjoyed their wit and satire.

    • @grippygecko6843
      @grippygecko6843 2 месяца назад +7

      Satire and speculation is appreciated here. This is galnet news digest. Satire and speculation are their chief weapons; satire, speculation and news. Their three main weapons are satire, speculation, news and creative videography...

    • @sideparting6845
      @sideparting6845 2 месяца назад +1

      Just stop the watching video early??

    • @hanswichmann5047
      @hanswichmann5047 2 месяца назад

      From one grandpa pilot to another - Fuck off! GalNet needs support in these penny pinching times & all content from them is greatly (by me at least) appreciated..

    • @wstavis3135
      @wstavis3135 2 месяца назад +3

      Who let you out of your parents' basement?