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- First time watching and reacting to 300
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20:30 “Maybe they are portraying them the way Spartans would see them” is an excellent observation. Seriously, I’ve seen this movie dozens of times, and never considered that.
@@thelionsshare6668 Literature Art. Well put.
Totally agree. It was a very smart thought that opened my eyes on my superficiality that often have when I watch a movie...smart and beautiful 😍
This is the reason why I as a student of history actually have no problem at all with the take on the battle in this movie. The narrative makes sense in this context and this is the way how you can allow yourself to be creative with history (many ancient sources did the same, so they only follow the example...). And it differentiates this movie from a movie like Braveheart (I do have a problem with the (very modern and very forced) narrative and distortion of history in that movie).
@@Nazdreg1 It makes the sequel even funnier. 'So, I hear the Spartans claim they protected Greece, by land, from all of Persia. Well, let me tell you...'
Dilios is telling the story to hype everyone up for the Battle of Plataea, so it makes sense he would exaggerate about the Persians.
The Persian Elite were called Immortals because when one of them died, other got position, rendering the group as it never changed it's numbers.
Which is funny because Spartans also did the same when they would move the Phalanx forward.
so, like every army ever
@@helvete_ingres4717 sort of but,most army's don't keep exactly 1000 people in the unit at all times
@@helvete_ingres4717 no not like every army
@@helvete_ingres4717 In pre Roman Mediterranean armies, there were very little concept of "units", most were simply grouped together on campaigns based on where they were raised from or by which noble they served. The Persian Immortals were an early example of a full time professional unit and given the best equipment and training available. So no not like all armies everywhere.
20:20 Not everyone seems to get this, I'm glad you picked up on it. Dilios is embellishing the story of the death of their king the way any good story teller would.
Reminds me of a real quote from a spartan diplomat. "Do you come to us in public or private capacity?" "If we succeed here, Public, if we fail, private"
Honestly Dasha has to be one of the most observant reactors I've seen. Holy hell... Never have ever thought of that
@@cassu6 You're absolutely right. Dasha catches things that fly right by many reactors.
He's embellishing the entire story of the battle :)
@@brandonparisien2381 Exactly, that's what storytellers did back in the day. The reason all of the enemies seem malformed and monstrous is due to his embellishment, they weren't ACTUAL monsters, etc.
One of my favorite things about this movie is how much he leans on his wife. He doesn't kick that dude down the pit until she nods. He gets advice and encouragement from her after the oracle tells him not to march. And she's the last thing he's thinking about right before he dies. Leonidas was as strong as he was because of the love and support of his Queen. Epic.
The Spartans were trailblazers when it came to women equality. They may have been racist and discriminatory to everyone else but as long as you were Spartan man or woman you were considered superior. Even all the women were trained in combat in the case that the men were not around to protect their city. The Spartans were some badasses.
The "We will fight in the shade" remark apparently was really spoken by Leonidas' general in the actual battle.
Maybe ... especially the "spoken" history scources deliver us has to be seen very very cautious, because Herodot didnt know, by the things we can judge, such details about what Leonidas' general said. (syr for my bad english)
@@Tarnatos14 They were known for their short wit. They basically invented the one-liner. Now it's a must have in many an action movie. We even have the word laconic thanks to them. Saying much with few words. Talk about propaganda, if you can best somebody with words and cause fear of meeting on the battlefield then you might never have to.
You know they changed the whole story in the film ,right?
@@trapripper3234 Of course. Leonidas died early on the 3rd and final day of the battle. The Persians never brought elephants. And there were about 1000 soldiers from the city state of Thebes that stayed and died with them (of course this never gets mentioned). Spartans also didn't fight in leather underwear either. They wore armor too. Sparta also had two kings. Leonidas was king of their army. The other king ruled the city.
I remember seeing this movie when I was in the military. That was...an interesting context to see it in. Things were already very macho there because that's simply what happens when you stuff a bunch of guys in their late teens or early 20s together with guns and uniforms, and then suddenly we were all huddled together in a small room, watching this freaking movie on a small TV. I will never forget that. It's one of the weirdest/most awesome experiences of my life.
I had a similar experience. I saw this movie while I was doing pre-deployment training for Afghanistan.
The whole military base: "SPARTAAAANS WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION??"
"AWHOO AWHOO AWHOOOOOO"
I had a similar reaction when I was watching with friends (haven't been in the military)
The greatest part of this movie, is that we aren't watching the actual battles. Its all visualization of the story being told to those 10,000 spartans at the end.
Parts were embellished to amp them up. Was there a 9ft tall giant, no, he was probably 6 ft. Were the immortals really black eyed demons, no, just bad asses.
That soldier wasn't just sent to tell the story. Any of them could have done that. But (Faramir) has a gift for creativity and storytelling. He was the 300's hype man.
There's really nothing in the movie or graphic novel that support the idea and it undercuts the reality of the battle of thermopylae.
@@30noir So, you think there was a guy on the Persian side that had blades for arms that cut the heads of their generals off?
That's the type of embellishments I meant.
And Faramir’s voice was absolute perfection for the narration and eventual hype man for the army. I loved him in LOTR but he’s taken it to the next level with this role.
Exactly, it's a story being told. So what is a story if not embellished?
Besides, did you see the size of the Persian's animals? Imagine how big their zoo must be! That's a story in itself...
@@jarodclark442 there is historical evidence of such a man existing (just not Spartan).
When the Spanish landed in South America one of their "Warriors" was so feared that when he was eventually captured they cut his hands off, then released him to demoralize his people.
He strapped blades to his forearms and went back to war. ... as an even more terrifying figure.
I love when Dasha swoons over hunky guys in movies, it's funny lol
The Monument reads: "Traveler, pass by,
Go Tell the Spartans
That here, obedient to your laws we lie"
Do you want a tissue to wipe your tears?
"Ὦ ξεῖν᾿, ἀγγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ὅτι τῇδε κείμεθα τοῖς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι." That's the monument. But, I suppose you are uneducated to understand it....! So, take a tissue to wipe your tears!
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Even though the actual battle is based on a true story, I like how they created the story to look like Greek mythology.
I believe the movie is based on a comic book based on the story of the battle
Yea Frank Miller. Ironically this is how the ancient Greeks would have twisted the story
@@jakealanmoviereviews5933 thanks, didn't know who wrote the comic, but yeah. That definitely seems like how the Greeks would tell the story
@@SebasTian58323 They wouldn't. They didn't do it.
The real true story is about Gideon and the 300 from the Bible.
Frank Miller said that when he saw the 1962 movie "300 Spartans" as a kid, it was the first time he saw a story with heroes who didn't win or even survive, but instead sacrificed their lives for a greater cause (i.e. it showed him that a hero can be, rather than a self insert wish fulfillment, an example of acting on principle even at great personal cost). It's not an action movie, and the dialogue and battle choreography are a bit stilted, but does try to develop the characters and plot more, so it would be interesting to see someone who's seen "300" react to "300 Spartans."
It also fills in a lot of the history and context that 300 omitted, and is generally the more historically accurate film.
What most people don't know is that the Spartan children were actually inspected twice. Once at birth and once around five years old, if they failed they were disposed of even at five.
Never heard that before. But I do know they weren't considered a full human being until 1 year old. So the parents could dispose of them until 1.
The myth of the Spartan state judging their new borns and killing those who were found too weak is most likely just that, a myth. There is no direct evidence of of a single instance this occurred in real-life.
According to studies done abandoning disabled infants wasn’t an accepted part of ancient Greek culture, even if it happened occasionally. Greek philosopher Plutarch recounted how the ancient Spartans submitted newborns to a council of elders for inspection. “Fit and strong” babies survived, but those found to be “lowborn or deformed” were left outside to die, Plutarch wrote, “on the grounds that it is neither better for themselves nor for the city to live [their] natural life poorly equipped.”
But he was writing about things that happened 700 years before his time.
And the ancient historian’s own account mentions another Spartan king who was unusually short and “impaired in his legs” but still a good leader. An anonymous Greek doctor writing around 400 B.C.E. advised contemporary physicians on how to help adults “who are weasel-armed from birth.” All these textual clues suggest babies born visibly different lived to adulthood as productive members of society, archaeological evidence supports that view, showing babies with profound health problems at birth were cared for well beyond their first weeks of life. In 1931, for example, excavators uncovered the remains of more than 400 infants in a well in Athens. In a 2018 analysis, archaeologists showed the remains were mostly just a few days old at most, consistent with typical patterns of high infant mortality in the ancient world, not selective infanticide.
literally the only source for the alleged Spartan practice of eugenics-based infanticide is Plutarch, a historian writing in Roman times long after the time of ancient Sparta (this is someone in AD times writing about BC times) who had a huge pro-Athenian bias and wanted to make Sparta look fantastic and savage. If this was something that actually happened, it's weird how none of the contemporary sources saw it as something worth even mentioning - like Herodotus, Thucydides, Plato, all of whom lived while ancient Sparta existed and wrote plenty about it, may have even been there themselves and met actual Spartans. Plato even wrote about the cultural and ethical differences between Sparta and his native Athens in the wake of Athens losing the Peloponnesian War to the Spartan-led alliance, but surprisingly no mention of 'they kill babies lmao'
Spartans were something else, even definining the definition of masculinity through sexuality.
"Once at birth and once around five years old, if they failed they were disposed of even at five." That sounds like a more recent thing to me to be honest. Sure people might want that as a human right now because so many babies live, but back in them days most your kids would probably die. So ending one that just barely survives when most aren't even that strong seems like it would be too self destructive. Especially with how few people were probably in the world at that time. Looking it up, 100 million is the first answer. Did we need 1.5 billion just to have the first airplane fly? Makes you wonder.
I love Gerard Butlers story about the "Pit of Death" he did several takes, and "I think I can give you more" ... until
"That was too much huh" ... "Yeah, but it was beautiful"
I’m a proud Spartan, this movie is always fun to watch
LONG LIVE SPARTA!!!
The Persians asked for the Spartan's weapons, and the Spartans answered "Come and get them!" This is still the motto of some of the Greek's Special Forces.
Molon Labe
It also survives in Texas.
The Alamo in San Antonio is obviously the most famous battle in the Revolution... but check out a little Spanish Mission called La Bohia.
@@PaulthePhilosopher2 Lave
In Greek is: ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ / Molon lave = come and get it
@@user-xh9rz7rf8l Yes! I saw these on some t-shirts and even tattoos.
"If 300 Spartans did that imagine 10,000 Spartans..."
The Battle of Thermopyle was in 480 BC. 80 years later 10,000 Greek mercenaries (not Spartans, but heavily armed/armored like the Spartans) joined Cyrus the Younger (great-grandson of Xerxes) as he challenged his brother for the Persian throne after the death of their father. Cyrus' army won the Battle of Cunaxa, but Cyrus was killed. The rest of Cyrus' army were Persians loyal to Cyrus, but after his death they went over to the winner. The Greek troops were trapped deep inside the Persian Empire. The leaders of the Greeks sought a deal with the victorious Persians that would allow them to march back to Greece. The Persians killed the leders of the 10,000 when they arrived to negotiate the deal. So the Greeks elected new leaders and marched back to Greece, fighting their way through every army and obstacle the Persians could throw at them.
Xenophon, one of the leaders of the 10,000 during their escape from Persia, wrote about the expedition in The Anabasis - which served as the inspiration for the movie The Warriors (1979).
"The Warriors" producer, Larry Gordon, was so impressed with "300", he hired Zack Snyder to direct "Watchmen".
If I remember the tale correctly, the 10,000 had to fight their way over 1,000 miles to get back to Greece. That’s one hell of an accomplishment I think
True story: Every single frame of what you just watched was filmed indoors - the entire movie was shot in studio. Goosebumps indeed 😮❤️
Movie magic at its finest in the mid-2000s.
It was in an old train factory in Quebec, Canada. The budget was $60 mil.
The movie never gets old.
Like the brainwashed soldiers that die attacking a foreign country.
Like taking on Hitler’s Germany and Tojo’s Japan. …..
THIS IS SPARTA!!! Such a unique movie. Loved it!
“Spartans! Lay down your weapons!”
“Persians! Come and get them!”
Imagine saying something so epic that 2,500 years later ppl are still quoting it.
Yep, a bunch of gun cucks that have never seen a gun fight. 😆
@@johnbox271 the Greek Special forces still use that quote to this day, correct?
@@johnbox271 ah, gotcha.
The Ukrainian soldier that told the warship F-U would be a modern comparison I think.
"Russian warship... Go fuck yourself" is a pretty good last word
Lena Headey's performance as the queen was outstanding. Love this movie and am glad Dasha liked it!
I think she's an underrated actress. She was great in this, and I've seen her give similarly strong performances in several other things.
@@jeremyfrost2636 agreed. She's fantastic.
my understanding of "come back with your shield or on it" means either come back alive or carried on your shield. The idea being that people who fled combat out of fear would discard their weapons and shields so they can run away quicker.
This. I was usually a phase uttred by mothers to their sons. Keep in mind when fighting in a phalanx if one soilder runs the whole formation can collapse it was a reminder of her son's duty to his fellow soilders who given Sparta's small size may have been her brother, husband, nephews or even other sons.
shield would be used to carry you back if you died
The shield was to protect the man to your left in the Phalanx. You lost everything else before you let go your shield.
"Then we will fight in the shade..." Great line.
Though loosely based on actual historical events, this was primarily adapted from the Frank Miller graphic novel of the same name
she mentioned the graphic novel at the end of the video so I think she knew that going in.
Your observation that the Persians look how they do it’s because it’s how the Spartans would see them is astute. This story is told by Dileos’s character, so he makes the Persians out to be monsters. Persia was actually very fair to their conquered people.
The immortals got their name, because their numbers were fixed. So when one was killed in battle, another just took their place so it seemed like those who were killed never really died.
On the site of battlefield there’s a monument to the Spartans who died there. And on it is written the phrase “Go tell Sparta, stranger passing by, that here, obedient to her laws, we lie.”
"300" is the best Klingon Movie i have ever seen. 😁
Seriously, this is an awesome movie and i LOVE you realized that all the monsters and creatures are there, because it's a story that is TOLD to us, by someone who fought there.
It's not an accurate description of the battle, but rather a story told at a campfire and this is what makes it so impressive. I feel that we have lost this sense of wonder and greatness in our stories nowadays, except from this movie and very few others.
This losses something in the translation, you have not experienced the Battle of Thermopylae until you have read it in the original Klingon.
"I feel that we have lost this sense of wonder and greatness in our stories nowadays, except from this movie and very few others." Big Fish
Most of the really good comebacks in this movie are based of actual comebacks either recorded down by orators or found in written messages, but the best one of all time isn't in this movie. Phillip of Macedon sent a letter to the Spartan King of the time talking about all the things he would do to Laconia, the kingdom that Sparta is part of, if he were to invade. The King sent back a one-word response... "If."
Lmao at all the “they are so hot”. 🤣 you too girl!
The success of Ridley Scott's *Gladiator* (which you watched) brought the historical epic back into popularity for a few years...but visually, there had never been anything like this before, at least not in this genre.
I grew up on 'Sword and Sandals' back in the 60's - so Yeah! I was quite pleased when this type of content began appearing in Theaters again.
At the end of the movie, when Leonidas knows he's going to die, he finally says it:
My queen. My wife. My love.
That line always chokes me up. Great movie & great reactions👍
Same here, brother.
One of the greatest closing dialogue in movie history. Before he leaves he looks at his wife and his son. What is the biggest sacrifice anyone can give to prove their live? Give their life for the ones he loves. So he didn’t have to say it but at the end when he knows its time he says those epic lines.
Dasha getting a little over excited and flustered 🥵. I love watching your reactions.
IKR 🤣😂
It’s crazy how much this movie changed cinema
In that last scene, in the actual battle, the Spartans, athenians and freek greek states were heavily outnumbered against the persians, but beat them with their battle formations and basically just made them give up lol
Ah...no. What they did do was delay they Persians long enough for the Athenians to mount a defense and defeat them in Athens.
No. The last scene was the Battle of Platea. The Greeks actually charged the Persians, something theyve never done before, breaking the persian formation and routing them after a massive slaughter. See Herodotus.
When i see Dasha from Russia pops up on my screen i always click ! Never got disappointed so another like from me . Much love from the Netherlands and keep doing your thing ❣❣❣
10:47 - You may recognize this actor. That is none other than Michael Fassbender. He played "Magneto" on the X-Men series (younger Magneto). He was also on "Inglorious Basterds".
"I did not expect the movie to be so.......intriguing."
After your exclamations on Spartan appearance and the coy look you gave the camera I believe intriguing meant something different to you at that moment...
I look forward to seeing Dasha’s reactions. Her videos always make my day better.
Honestly I love how she gets how it's all a story being told, not literally.
13:09 "Because he knows that he will not survive a fight."
More than that. It's a _phalanx._ In such a formation, one doesn't just protect _oneself,_ but the soldier to one's immediate _left_ and one's immediate _right._ This depends on being able to hold the shield as high as _theirs._ If you can't _do_ that, you can't protect _them._
I'm Greek/Aussie and I love this movie! Thanks for the reaction, Dasha.
"With it or on it" also means to not come back alive without your shield. When troops would flee upon being defeated, they would typically throw away their shield so they could run faster. So returning without a shield means you fled and are probably a coward. A soldier's shield is both his primary means of defense and a defense for his fellow soldiers. It was thought more important to protect the city by protecting oneself and one's countrymen than to kill the enemy. So keeping your shield was more important than keeping your weapons. A man armed with a shield fights for his people. A man armed with only weapons fights only for himself.
General George S. Patton took issue with this line of thinking. “Your job is *not* to die for your country. Your job is to *fight* for your country, and to make the poor dumb son of a bitch on the other side die for *his* country!”
@@isaackellogg3493 The Oracle of Delphi prophesied:
"Hear your fate, O dwellers in Sparta of the wide spaces;
Either your famed, great town must be sacked by Perseus' sons,
Or, if that be not, the whole land of Lacedaemon
Shall mourn the death of a king of the house of Heracles,
For not the strength of lions or of bulls shall hold him,
Strength against strength; for he has the power of Zeus,
And will not be checked until one of these two he has consumed."
The 300, and specifically Leonidas, went to Thermopylae to die. For that was the only way to save Sparta from the Persians. Sometimes the best way to fight for your country is to die for your country. Patton never had to face that choice.
@@flatebo1 Patton fought in the Great War as well as in WWII. The Great War saw millions of men die for their country to gain mere feet of ground, only to have the enemy take it back a week later, rendering their sacrifice meaningless. “Some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make,” seemed to be the working policy of general after general.
Patton led from the front and gave inspiring speeches to rally the morale of fearful men. Sometimes the choice to die for your country is the wrong one, and we should not let misplaced romanticism blind us to an equally-justifiable, but more survivable, alternative. The point of the war is to win, not to die gloriously for no other reason than to die gloriously.
@@isaackellogg3493 "Sometimes the choice to die for your country is the wrong one..."
And sometimes it is not.
"The point of the war is to win, not to die gloriously for no other reason than to die gloriously."
And sometimes dying gloriously is how you win.
@@flatebo1 I agree with you. I just wanted to inject a little nuance. Pardon my ego. 🫣
In the actual Spartan "graduation" ceremony, it wasn't a wolf they had to hunt. They had to hunt and murder a slave without being caught.
This movie gave birth to SOOOOOOO many memes.
In the original book this was based on they were COMPLETELY naked, no little leather panties. The idea was to reference Greek statuary.
While the movie itself is only VERY loose history, some of the dialogue IS from historical record ("Then we will fight in the shade," "With it, or on it," and "Come and take them" are all known, or at least written of, in historical accounts of the battle. The Spartans were so renowned for terse responses like this that's why the habit of giving short answers is called "laconic" today). One irony of the film is that while the dialogue talks a lot about how the ancient Greek Hoplites actually fought, (not just the Spartans, but all of the Greek forces used the same tactics) in the actual movie itself they largely ignore their formations and run out to fight individually.
There was a much more accurate version of the story made back in 1962, appropriately called The 300 Spartans (which was the inspiration for Miller's book at this film). It's definitely worth a look.
One story about Spartan response to battle was when a Macedonian king threatened to invade Sparta,saying "if we invade your city we will burn it to the ground" . Sparta's response? "If".
@@vellaropedart9190That wasn't just "a Macedonian king." That was Philip II.
@@Ambaryerno I thought so.
Your observation of the visual similarity between 300 and Sin City is exactly right. Both the comics were written/illustrated by Frank Miller, and the look of the movies was done to match his style of art.
Spartans are taught that death in battle would be the greatest glory they could acheive in life.
So when Leonidas looks at Ephialtes and says "May you live forever," ... it's the ultimate insult you can give to a traitor of Spartan blood. And Ephialtes is near tears when he hears it, his face betraying his shame, he bows his head low, more guilt than he has ever felt in his life.
Another way of looking at it is being forever hunted by guilt. The ancient Greeks had these subgoddesses called Erynies which were the manifastation of guilt and they would haunt people. On another note, the name of the traitor "Ephialtes" holds a negative meaning up to this day. In modern greek, "Ephialtes" literally means nightmare.
@@ChristoforosPanos Επιτέλους και ένας που έπιασε το νόημα!
The sequel 300: Rise Of An Empire is pretty damn good too. See the Queen come into her own on the battle front.
I was actually hoping the Spartan queen was going to clash with Artemisia (who was wonderfully portrayed by Eva Greene 🔥)
Damn, this narrator just makes me want to go binge some Deadliest Warrior again
You'll enjoy the 300 sequel as well. The graphic album on film format is a fun way to show dramatizations.
"Molon Labe" (Greek for "Come get them") was the motto of the Greek army for a long time because of this event. I'm unsure if it still is, but that's a very badass thing to say to someone ordering you to lay down your arms in battle. It's too bad that right-wing gun nuts have co-opted the phrase :(
Spartans were very widely known for their Laconic phrasing (named after the region they lived in, Laconia), which is a very terse and to the point way of speaking. Famously, Philip II of Macedon sent a message to the Spartans asking if he should come as friend or foe.
The Spartan's reply: "Neither". So much meaning in one word, gotta love it.
The Persian Immortals were named such because there were 10,000 of them, all masked, so that when they did take casualties in battle, their numbers would be replaced with more faceless warriors, giving them the illusion of immortality as their numbers never seemed to realistically decrease.
Phalanx formations were used for a very long time in antiquity, mainly because for the most part the equipment needed was inexpensive to produce, and the soldiers easy to train. It wasn't until much later in the medieval period where heavy cavalry were able to be fielded in large enough numbers to be able to break phalanxes/shield wall formations. That, plus the invention of gunpowder spelled the end of this particular tactic, with armies favoring quicker, lightly armed musketmen and light cavalry wielding sabres.
"Stranger if you pas this way, go tell the Spartans. here we lie in obedience to their laws."
15:21 that shield bash is what sealed it for Dasha. It was then she knew she had to marry Leonids and bare his children. “It’s so interesting to watch” 😂🔥
Hahaha i believe we have all felt that we needed to marry Leonidas and bare his children. Since i’m closer to gerard butler’s age, i’ll take that burden on myself if necessary. Hahaha
Perverts.
"Bare" would be to remove their clothing.
"Bear" would be to carry them.
@@lokithecat7225 yup you got my typo. Well done! I bet the premise of my comment is still correct though.
@@conker206 I would have ignored it, I know how bad American Education is... but it was spreading, and the next comment repeated it.
Seemed better to nip it in the bud.
Dasha would make a great Spartan woman and give birth to real men 💪
My favorite part of the film is the few seconds when Leonidas pauses after Xerxes messenger speaks, turns around to look to his queen and she gives him the slightest nod. Even though he was king, he looked to her first for approval before "THIS - IS - SPARTA!!"
This movie is based on the real life Battle of Thermopylae and because of how effective the Spartans were in repelling the Persian Army is the very reason the tactics used in that battle are still studied today and required reading in many military academies.
@23:38, it’s one thing to raise a son to go to war knowing you may lose him. It’s a whole other thing to see him cut down in front of you.
This Spartan father wasn’t ready for that😔
The "what is your profession" part always gives me chills
Aside from your reactions, I find it pretty creative how you incorporate elements of the movies into your thumbnails.
The reason this looks so unique is because this is based on the Frank Miller comic book 300. He was also the one who did Sin City. Like Sin City this is a comic book brought to life. He also did The Sprit which I personally enjoyed but it didn't do very well when it came out.
The Spirit is underrated AF.
Dasha this was a great reaction! I truly enjoyed your enthusiasm for the action and the story.
While this movie is very stylized, there are some interesting bits taken from real history. For example "Our arrows will blot out the sun."/"Then we will fight in the shade." was actually taken from the real correspondence between the two camps.
20:24 'These creatures they truly don't exist, but maybe this is trying to portray how the Spartans see them.' YES! Very good, Dasha. 👌😁
With the shield it means he WON and he's coming back , and on the shield means they WON , and they brought his dead body back on the shield. Unthinkable for them to lose.
The mother giving the shield to her son , was telling him , "with it or on it" = "Η ΤΑΝ Η ΕΠΙ ΤΑΣ" .
The Spartan phalanx was invincible for about 5 centuries. They lost the battle against the "Theban Holy Legion" in 371 BC. Since then Sparta could never recover.
While there were 500 Spartans fighting on the last day, all together, there were about 1500 other allied Greek soldiers with them. The Spartans gave them the option to cover their retreat and as they went back to their city-states but they opted to stay and fight and die with the Spartans
No there were only 300. The 1500 were those arkadians and a few hundred Corinthians and Thebans. Mostly tasked with protecting the flanks and supporting the Spartans by switching out during breaks in battle. They didnt do much of the fighting against the main waves, vefore being sent home. But turning up alone was valiant. What the Spartans did was recognise the greater threat and inspire the Greek states to unite, rather than be divided as the generally were.
@@smartassdroid5149 that's what I meant lol
I love the Conneryesque accent move they played. Just have the King of the Spartans be very Scottish and dont explain it! Its glorious.
I know this was definitely an exaggerated movie of the actual battle, but it was also known as the Battle of Thermopylae, which was a real battle and King Leonidas and 300 Spartans gave their all to fight off the Persians. It was a defining moment in Greek history and set the stage for western democracy that we know today. Glad you enjoyed the movie. Always enjoy your content.
Don't forget the Thespians. They remained with the Spartans when the other Greek allies withdrew (all told, the Greek force numbered 7000 when you include the Thespians, Thebans, and other allies).
@@Ambaryerno I totally agree with you 100%
This is based on a graphic novel. The director went out of his way to make the movie look like the comic book.
The FIRST reactor that has actually made this realization 20:25! Nice catch from you Dasha!
No cap Dasha, you're my favorite reactor, this was absolute gold. You're spot on about the enemy being portrayed as monsters, this movie is a visual representation of the one eyed soldiers story of what happened to the 300. Leonidas wanted him to go tell their story to get all of Greece to join together to fight the Persians.
also being a kind of post-911 reactionary fable, the Persians are portrayed as Arabic with an Islamic vibe. That's not how ancient Persia was nor how the ancient Greeks saw the Persians - the Greeks mocked the Persians for being paler-skinned than they were
It's not an entirely accurate film but it's a hell of a lot of fun to watch.
Not entirely accurate 😂😂😂
This is an incredible movie by the Director of Watchmen, cool reaction Dasha, take care sweetie 🥰
This movie is great! And really good that you figured out that this is an exaggeration of the story. It is been told as a fairy tale almost to hype the other Spartans for the upcoming battle.
As you've seen Lord of the Rings, you may remember that part where Helm's Deep is about to be attacked and Legolas laments that they are "300 against ten thousand." That was doubtlessly a reference to this actual battle.
Fun fact, When Philip II, King of Macedon and father to Alexander the Great, approached Sparta after conquering the rest of Greece he sent an envoy that said "You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city" to which the Spartans replied with one word, "If." Philip let them be. Granted it was more than likely because they just weren't worth the effort, Sparta was pretty much irrelevant by that point, but it really speaks to the balls those people had to continue to give the middle finger to anyone that threatened them regardless of circumstance.
you said it yourself; they weren't worth the effort. Sparta didn't have walls and they didn't have cavalry - Macedonia in the era of Philip/Alexander had the best army in the world and would have annihilated Sparta, Alexander didn't bother conquering them b/c he had bigger fish to fry like...the entirety of Persia, largest empire the would had ever seen. Sparta was irrelevant hick shit by then, their glory days as rivals of Athens long gone
@@helvete_ingres4717 Indeed. My point remains, if anything is reaffirmed, that it takes some serious coglioni to look at an army that could rolfstomp you into oblivion, give them an anime protagonist death glare and say "Bring it!" and come out in one piece.
In fact, at the battle of Megalopolis where Alexander's commander Antipater came back to finish them off the Spartan king Agis, already wounded, stayed behind to buy his men time to flee and like Leonidas before him felled multiple enemies before he was killed by a lance. The main point being that regardless of circumstance, Spartans take no shit.
Fun fact: Many of the badass lines in this movie, especially "then we shall fight in the shade," are part of historical record. Spartans were renowned for their wit and brief responses.
Trained in the art of talking shit😂
If you want more content like this, I highly recommend my favorite TV series, Spartacus. Each season has a subtitle. Spartacus: Blood And Sand is the first season, after which star Andy Whitfield was diagnosed with lymphoma. While awaiting the completion of his chemo treatments they filmed a prequel series, Spartacus: Gods Of The Arena with a different main character but some other cast members returning.
Whitfield died during production of Gods Of The Arena, so they recast him (the new actor, Liam McIntyre, does the role justice; you'll think both actors are hot). The last 2 seasons are Spartacus: Vengeance and Spartacus: War Of The Damned.
Note that the show is probably not RUclips appropriate due to the massive amount of nudity in it. You will see dongs. So if you do reactions, probably best make this a Patreon exclusive.
27:15 And since you liked Lena Headey in this so much, I also recommend to you the short lived but excellent Terminator TV series, The Sarah Connor Chronicles. She is FIERCE in that.
The cutest "This is Sparta!" I've ever heard :o)!
Gerard Butler who plays Leonardis starred in the movie Phantom of the Opera as the Phantom. He's also in the Fallen trilogy (Olympus Has Fallen, London Has Fallen, and Angel Has Fallen).
Such a fabulous movie! It really gets you pumped up. I need to watch this movie again. Glad you enjoyed the movie. I loved watching your reaction. Can't wait for your next video😃👍
7:37 “come back with your shield or on it” was an injunction to Sparta’s soldiers to care for their shields more than their weapons for they protected not only the individual Spartan himself, but those next to him.
Such was the strength of a Spartan battle formation, more so than the spear or the sword.
Ironically, there's very little ACTUAL use of the Greek (keep in mind, even if the Spartans were BETTER at it, all of the Greek city-states used the same military tactics) phalanx in the movie.
"With it or on it" was less about the care of their weapons. The shield of a Greek hoplite was HEAVY, which means if you came back without your shield you likely threw it away so you could run.
This movie is so dope visually; the action choreography (Astanos long take alone🔥) and well acted.
Very cool movie and Dasha you gave some great reactions. Love how you enjoyed their uniforms and how well built the were, you made it fun to watch.
1:15, these guys are why the Master Chief and his colleague in Halo are called Spartans. They too were taken as children (ages 7 or 8) and trained to be warriors.
Gotta say, loved just how thirsty Dasha got watching this movie (and a few others.) Absolutely adorkable. Add to that the fact that she caught on to the embellishment of the story so quickly and you can understand why Dasha's reactions are so much fun to watch.
This has to THE most Dasha movie of all time. I'm honestly amazed she hasn't seen it before. When this came out, everyone I knew had a poster of Gerard Butler, and you can't fault the guy - he really makes that look good. And Lena Headey (then and now) made one hell of an impression.
Many of the movie scenes were taken directly from the novel, including the dialog. The color palette as well.
... I noticed our host has a healthy appreciation for Greek warriors... 🥰😏
Dude I love your movie reactions. You remind me so much of a friend, even your accent, even though shes from somewhere else, but you just enjoy the movies wholeheartedly and give your opinions so naturally.
The iconic line “ this is Sparta” was out of frustration and the crew behind him were laughing about it so they weren’t shown. Butler also wasn’t happy because he is my a fan of extreme workouts or strict diets.
23:07 "No No No Not Him Not Him Not Him."
6:27 "You always need to have a smart woman by your side"
This is so true. If it wasnt for my wife who I confide in all the time, I would not have had half of what I have. It's truly amazing what a woman can do to drive a man.
"May you live forever" worst insult you could receive from a spartan.
Classic! Let’s go! She will love this.
The Last Samurai is awesome you should watch that next. Looks almost authentic
One of the reasons the Greeks could hold the line is persa was still in the bronze age while the Greeks were using iron.
The Persians used iron weapons during this time period. They just didn't wear much armor.
@@richardstephens5570 no they didn't. The immortals used liquor Shields and bronze weapons.
This was a perfect movie for Dasha to react to. First of all, she loves great action movies, and the action choreography and cinematography are terrific. Second, she likes hot guys, and this movie is definitely hot. Third, a lot of things like the "with your shield" quote and the fact that this is shown in the form of a legendary, morale boosting pre-battle narrative which often get overlooked, but Dasha, being the sharp, insightful reactor she is, got them perfectly proving she's more than just a pretty face with a cute accent.
Thanks for reviewing this one...I knew you would like it! Its a fantastic piece of cinema!!!!!
"With your shield, or on it." A spartan saying. It means to either come back with your shield in your arm, showing that you have won the war. Or to come back being carried on your shield, with the rest of your brothers carrying you home. It means two things, it means to fight until you win or die. It also means that losing isn't an option. But every single spartan does this willingly. Not one of them is forced, they are the best warriors of the ancient world. Unbreakable, fierce, precise.
Even though this movie EMBELLISHED what history knows, it was because of the narrow pass, the Persians could not overwhelm them with their large army, and Leonides was a great military strategist, and able to know how the Perians would react, and plan the correct defense to hold them.
Also, the Spartans had bronze armor and shields, most Persians only had wooden shields and leather armor, if they were lucky.
No, Dilios was not played by Sean Bean (who portrayed Boromir in LOTR). That was actor David Wedham.
Business picked up when the Spartans put on their helmets. Total change in demeanor. Saw this on IMAX and it was mind-blowing.
I need to know more about the four legged friend in the background...
3:36 "I see his point" Pun intended?🤣🤣
I do love your genuine reactions, i raise a glass cheers !
A lot of people criticize the movie when King Leonidas throws his spear and slices Xerxes face and he wipes it and sees his own blood. Actually his throw was accurate because he didn’t want to kill Xerxes, he wanted to destroy the God myth he had of himself and he did. If he kills Xerxes at that point then he and his 300 would have died in vain because he would have made Xerxes into a Martyr symbol and the world would have seen the Spartans as the bad ones. Much like William Wallace king Leonidis knew he had to die to unite Greece. Or else as you could see at the beginning of the film Xerxes and his armies could easily conquer a divided Greece. Masterpiece of a graphic novel adaptation. Not historically accurate but this movie was better off being what it is.