MIG Welding Aluminum (without a spool gun): 4 Tips
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there you go ! mig welding without spool gun !!!! I have been doing that for 10 years !!!
works great
Zila, I saw your recent appearance on Waldo's World welding up the aluminum flatbed with the HTP-PP 220. I have an Everlast MTS 275 and want to try aluminum MIG with it. Aside from using the stiffer wire, teflon liner, bigger tip, and keeping a straight cord are there any other tips or settings you'd recommend, pulse settings, etc? I want to do 3/16 and 1/4" tube.
@@oldowl4290 thanks for watching! The MTS 275 ( as far as i am familiar with the machine) does not offer pulse options/settings for mig …. That being said 3/16 or 1/4” is thick enough to weld just with regular spray mig.. i an not sure if you have a program in the machine or not. If you run 5356 wire ( the stiffer kind ) i would think a good starting point is 500 ipm for 3/16 and 600 ipm for 1/4” that is if you use 035 wire and 100% argon gas …. Stsrt with voltage at 22 ( go up or down 1 or 2 volts )till you see the spray cone, no crackling. A short and focused cone is preferred …
If you run 4043 about 100 IPM LESS everything else about the same…
100% argon gas the higher the flow rate the better ( i would start at 40 cfh)
Ctwd ( stick-out ) about 3/4” roughly 2x of what you’d do on steel short circuit mig )
Dont forget the aluminum drive rollers …. When it comes to drive roll pressure, less is more … just use barely enough pressure to feed the wire ….
Always push the puddle. Never pull, always weld vertical up not down ….
Good luck
@@ZILAwelds Thanks for the help!
Some other advice, get a couple mig guns and leads. One for mild steel, aluminum with the teflon liner, and one for stainless steel. Label them so you know which you want and just swap them out. Yeah it's expensive, but it'll save you time rather than replacing liners after each use. Especially if you are doing a multi-metal project that isn't just steel or aluminum exclusively.
Smart.
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Well said
Excellent tips. I have been using all these tips on my 253 as well
I have one small additional tip, don't cut the Teflon liner as short ,but make it extend as close to the drive roller. Just short of touching the drive roller. .
I also use an 1/16 Teflon liner with the .045 /1.2 wire. I know a lot of people will disagree with that. I counter their disagreement with the fact I use A 5 meter mig gun with little to no problems
Don't forget to use U drive rollers.
great information...thanks Jay
Exactly. I’m an aluminum mig welder and when your using the plastic liner you cut as close to the guide wheels as possible so it doesn’t have a chance to bend.
hey Jay! what do you do to combat grey welds? Im going crazy trying to find a decent setting for 1/8" and 3/16" aluminum welding
I use 045" wire 4043 but can't seem to nail down good setting for DPulse
@@raymondcorreira847 , me either, i have similar problems with d pulse , burn back and...
Also, swap out your drive rollers. You need U-groove rollers for aluminum wire.
That was great info , I don't have an everlast machine but my gys multipearl 210 was supplied with a steel mig set up an aluminium mig set up and a euro fit tug set up. I hadn't tried the aluminium set up for all the reasons you've shown but now with all the tips you've given I think it'll be worth a shot. Many thanks.
I really appreciate for teaching us how to weld aluminum w/n spool gun,thanks.
Nice video tips! 👍👍 two thumbs for this one! You are right on point with your mig gun adjustments. Took me years of frustration to figure this out.. 😳
Another great video Jesse! 👍 Thank you.
I have the same machine but have only used it sporadically. I bought 3/64 wire (5356) but was never happy with the pulse. Seemed like a lot of flare, like the wire speed was slow, any suggestions on settings? It would be nice to have the option to just set the volts, set wire, and set the pulse high/ background.
Also... different topic, if you are not using new aluminum, how do you tell if you should use 4043 (silicon based) or 5356 (magnesium based), as the two are not interchangeable on some base material?
Thank you for what you are doing!
Thank you for your training
Really excellent advice.
Thank you so much for your information.
Really helpful
Thank you for the info. Invaluable
Great tips. Thankyou.
Thank you!
Great video - thank you for sharing!
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This is great. Thanks!
Thanks for the info. It really helped
Thank you 😊 will put your tips to the test 👍
Thanks for the great tips. What settings are you running your gas on?
Great tips big help Thanks
Great info, thankyou
Thanks for your video.
Thanks for the tips. I think half my problem is wire feed. I switched to the 5386 or whatever it is and that helped out a lot. My boss don't like the weave on aluminum the way you welded. I like it for heat control especially at the beginning of the weld when it's at its coldest. It sure looks a lot better though. Obviously the dimes have to be prone to a crack the a straight high build Caterpillar looking stringer. Either way thanks for the tips
well done Jessie...cheers from Florida, Paul
Paul, you are watching every aluminum mig video there is online 😂😂😂
I have the 211si and it's a great machine but I plan to start doing some big projects in aluminum. Any feeback out there using the SM200N-MTS gun? I almost ready to just buy a dedicated mig and setup for aluminum. Not sure yet. Thanks
Thanks. I was about to spend a ton on parts. I will use my MiG and change the parts
Right on thanks for the tips
Great info thanks, 👍👍👍
I'm looking to buy my first Mig welder (as a diyer) but non did aluminium.
Your tips convinced me of workarounds. They shall get laminated and putup in my garage.
MIG WELDING TIPS
1. Make sure your torch lead is a straight as possible as the filler wire is soft aluminium.
2. 5356 filler wire is softer than 4043 wire so try 4043 wire.
3. Use the next size up gun tip for your wire as the soft aluminium filler wire gets pinched in the rollers and can become oval in shape which can cause 'birds nest'.
4. Change your torch lead liner to a Teflon Liner.
Great video
He said the 5356 is stiffer, not the 4043...
Well said, thanks, .
Have any tips on when welding on aluminum. I get a good start and then it spreads out and end up burning a hole. And black soot around my weld. My first time welding aluminum
not teflon liner, the best is graphite liner, the liner must not be cut there, a length must be left so that it goes to the unwinding rollers
Do you still use argon gas as well with this method?
Were you using Argon also with this "MIG" setup?
Can I mig aluminum with the everlast 140 110v machine?
Can this work on my everlast 140e inverter mig welder.
Can I get some settings for 1/8" 6061 aluminium pulse and double pulse welding .035" 4043 wire with 100% argon
On the 253 DPI can't seem to dial it in and would appreciate it immensely.
Hi did you still change the gas to argon
Thanks
What should I have the gas setting on for this? I've tried googling didn't make sense......
Do this have to use electrode negative or positive?
Awesome!! I forgot that was possible! Thank you sir!! I will order a Teflon liner soon! Just in case!
If you swich often, buy an extra feeder with teflon liner. A few bucks more, but it is absolutely worth it. Less hustle, and less tear and wear.
Is there a reason to not use a Teflon liner all the time ?
AWESOME!! F-ing AWESOME!!!
I’m doing it!
Also, keeping your roller tensioner properly set helps keep the wire from bird nesting every time the wire feels resistance.
Nice vedio sir
Super!!!
Good video, but have you guys tried a graphite liner? Graphite liner is way stiffer then a teflon liner and will help out even more.
Hey Ned. I tried that but it immediately started to contaminate the weld. What manufacturer of liner did you use? I would like to try it again, I think it should work better than Teflon if it doesn't contaminate.
@@jaysmith4293 Hey Jay, i use fronius graphite liners and have never had an issue with contamination.
Cheers
I'm sure I saw where you can change the wire feeder roller to a "softer" profile suitable for aluminium. So tip #5?
your $600 welder is fine but aluminum wire is soft and keep getting stuck , with spool gun you can run thinnest wire without issues.
Is there any push/pull guns that will work on this welder besides the Parker that Everlast sells? Cause lets face it, unless you're working on a bench in perfect conditions like you are with the whip leyed out perfect...the style of welding you are doing has more weld wire cut off and tossed on the floor then in the welds.
Genius 👀💯👍👍👍
Thanks for sharing this great video.
a.) Are some liners better than others ??
b.) Can you replace the liner in any torch cord ??
c.) Do the rollers on the mig that feed the wire have to be metal ??
Thanks for your generous consideration,
Sincerely ........................
-Yeah,there are also teflon-grafit liners.
-Pretty much in any torch except ones from cheap maschines where is hard connection between torch and maschine.
-Yeah they can be plastic (but they need to be U shaped too)
Hello I have the cheapest of the everlast can I still do this?
That's how I learned to mig weld aluminum before that I did stick welding on aluminum now I own a spool gun
5356 works with all aluminum base metals and will match their material properties? Why did they even make other wires?
Awesome. Can you leave that liner m there for normal MIG welding (mild steel wire)?
I have the Everlast PowerMIG 200
No. The steel wire will rip up the Teflon. You have to change the liner back to one suitable for steel.
Thanks for the Tips. Quick question. Can dirt bike cases be mig welded with this setup?
Not an expert, but I would be willing to try.
That aluminum will need to be as clean as abrasives and chemicals can get it. Drill a hole at the end of the crack. The crack will concentrate stresses in the metal at a single point, weakening the part, but a circular hole will distract those stresses over a larger area. Tack the sides together for alignment. Grind sections of a deep V-groove so you can get good penetration (bypassing the tacks). Weld between the tacks, then groove the tacks and weld those spots with good penetration.
Depending on thickness and penetration, you might need to groove and weld the other side.
Good luck! It may not turn out beautiful, but if it holds together it’s a win.
I would like to try the mig aluminum approach to welding, I have a couple of questions so pardon my ignorance. I have a everlast 221 sti multiprocessor welder. Does the polarity need reversed on this to perform aluminum welding? Also is it hard on electronic internals? Am I assuming correctly that you need to switch to 100% Argon also?
No change in polarity needed, and 100% argon is correct! Its not harder on the machine than th ning standard hardwire
What’s a good gasless aluminum mig wire spool? My Lincoln is setup for flux core. I found an aluminum mig wire “030” I have not used it yet bcs it doesn’t specify argon or gasless. Is it possible to weld with aluminum mig wire with soldering flux when there is no argon gas??
No. You have to use 100% argon.
@@haroldlundberg5676 yes pure argon, the reason I asked is because google search and Amazon smh they have a gasless Aluminum mig wire..🤔but people who bought it responded it is gas. The problem is if you search for something you’re going to find it even if it’s not accurate.
Is the Teflon liner still ok for regular steel wire? Disadvantages of leaving it in there?
It could possibly contaminate the next ti
It could possibly contaminate the weld the next time you use aluminum.
Once you have it setup, it only takes a few minutes to swap it out... Like literally less than 5 minutes. The teflon liner is more likely to kink as well, little more delicate compared to the stamdard liner
Does anyone know if this will work with my Lincoln Mig-Pak 140? I'm assuming the Everlast in the vid was a nornal mig machine like my lincoln? This would be awesome if it worked. I'd buy a separate whip and torch for it if anyone can confirm! Thanks.
I'm wondering the same thing. I have a Lincoln SP-170T, maybe twenty years old, in mint condition so I'm not about to upgrade. I'm told I CAN weld aluminum if I make the changes shown in this video, but it's not a modern pulsed welder.
What gas? 75/25 or 100% Argon?
The biggest help would be a Teflon liner and u Groove rollers and set it to pulse well that's my experience with it anyway
This is something that needs to be done with a push-pull setup too. The problem isn’t as bad but feeding problems still happen.
5356 wire is shown for 5000 series aluminum only what about the rest?
Do you need gas to weld aluminum ?
And use straight Argon gas
Never cut the teflon liner flush. It should be long enough to almost touch the drive roller. It needs to guide the wire a soon as possible after leaving the drive rollers
You forgot to use a V groove drive roller. That helps as well.
I need to weld 4 12ft 1 1/4x 1/8 angle iron on both sides all way down on 1/8 sheet advice on wrapping beside jumping around
I can't ever get that clean and nice of a weld on anything without burning through the materials.
Maybe lower your voltage
What's the argon ratio?
100%
What about using 100% argon gas?
Yes use 100 % argon.
You must indicate if you are - or + earth with the work piece.
Why would you just blitz through your settings
I would like to see 5356 .030"
Yep learned that over the years plus spool gun can wear you out
Just the tip?
Dumb question, but are you using gas?
first post
"wire speed feed"
dang
it took over an hour to load the first roll
the oversized tip a great idea
thank you very much
next time i watch what wire i buying
5-6 times it made a big yarn 🙂
Stick to my push pull haha way way better welds more expensive but worth it imo
Now in 2024 it's $3000 from push ball gun
Tip #5: Save yourself a lot of grief and get a spool gun.
Are you a salesman or is a spoolgun a better easier way to weld aluminum im running a dieselkubota trailblazer its a little over 2 grand for.the spoolgun attachment
why not just use a spool gun........youll buy a truck full of Tig torches, and say..this my overhead torch and this is my woking into a corner torch, and this is my sunday go to meetin torch... but youll bend over backwards and sideways trying get around using a spool gun
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tips 1 and 3 are machine deficiency issues.. not the process of welding alu wires.
Tip number 5. Buy a blue welder
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