When listening to Shiv and Shikie especially, this conversation can make you feel some sort of way, because you can see how intentional parenting looks and sounds like. Knowing you never got to see this kind of parenting from your parents, little to no support, love or validation can bring some feelings of resentment. Comparison is warranted now more so if you are an adult and watch yourself with your kids and wonder why the bare minimum was even an issue from their end but you can't dwell there, those feelings once in a while come, you feel like I'd have benefitted from some good intentional parenting but maji yashamwagika, hayatazoleka. You try to forgive them and promise yourself to do better.
being brought up in a toxic marriage between my parents ,made me learn a lot. Till date I wish they separated coz them being together made us think some toxic behavior in marriage are normal , to a point that ends up messing your relationships when you are grown , so I think when its becoming toxic ,just leave for the of yourself and your kids
I agree.. being born and brought up by parents in a toxic marriage wounds you in ways you will never know.. when you grow up, and start dating that is when you realize just how bad that marriage messed you up..
For that first question, I have a slogan, don't stay in a toxic or unhappy relationship for your kids because you only end up spreading the toxicity to the kids and blaming them for being unhappy....
I grew up with both parents, but they separated later when I was 9 years. I still think that is the best decision they ever did. I am proud of my mum, she did not stay for us. Because if she did, who knows we would be the most resentful children.
I honestly believe wanjiru will be the best mother.cant wait for that time.. it will be beautiful to listen 👂 and watch if you decide to show us that part of your life when the right time comes and happens
Being a mom of 2, I can say that sacrifice comes naturally,but always remember the kids will grow irregardless. It's always a tricky balance and a thin line between being yourself and losing yourself being a parent. It takes alot of self-awareness and being in the right mindset to balance. About Education policy,I think its best to start immediately the baby comes.
You will buy a big tv for it to be used for coco melon 😭😭😭Felt this in my soul!! I’m watching you guys on my phone coz my tv is being used for coco melon and my laptop for games 😂
Great questions, makes one appreciate the complexity of children. Ben&Wanjiru, let's hear more about how your faith in God informs your answers to the questions. There's barely any mention of it.
Parenting is just a "wueeh" most of the time . I love this conversation and I've really picked a lot from this. I'm a first time mom and God's grace has been sufficient 🙏
Happy watching you guys, my mum sacrificed to stay for us, me and my brothers, it was toxic, she got sick, she overgave herself, and now here am 25 years and I don't want to have that kuvumilia thing in me, kila mtu ako na life yake even a one day old, no no , if it's toxic, run
About grandparents weuh kwanza being like the first grandkid Mimi I feel like I would give them baby for a day I see how they would stay with him,mumempee uji,meno imetoka?,ako na kilo ngapi? Ako warm?ameanza kutembea? At first it was irritating but nowadays I am just cool grandparents can just piss you off but just understand them.
I loved and enjoyed this so much. Wanjiru and Ben you definitely chose the right couple for this topic❤️. My Thursday's are blissful because of your podcast. Good Job 👍
I am not planning on having kids but still liked the topic. I wonder if Ben and Wanjiru were more nervous than usual today. Ya'll were rather quiet, reserved, hands crossed. Maybe it was just one of those days, Great episode still.
@@winniewainaina3143 probably, so far they have had their friends on so this is why maybe today it was a bit different. Getting to know new people on camera can be hard.
@@winniewainaina3143 yeah. It's just content creation but they aren't besties. Simani's are also very chill people and Ben is the life of the party 🤣 The indifference was in their energy.
The all wise Creator hard wired parenting basics into the human being for survival of the species. He also hardwired family and community into the psyche of humanity so that parents and offspring (all people basically) have a support system to learn from and lean on they navigate through the life. Sema divine wisdom!
Parenting doesn't come so naturally especially for the first born, you learn on the job. You'll be surprised even things like breastfeeding don't come so naturally to many mothers. But it's a rewarding journey.
I don't think parenting comes naturally,until now I feel like my husband doesn't know how to stay with baby at all at times he just sleeps while holding him,when sleeping he doesn't even remember there is a baby in bed,for me I feel like he intentionally doesn't care at times.but he says when he provides he cares I don't like talking about it but I hate that statement.anyway I love the topic.
Sounds like he is traditional..to mean he doesn't believe in helping ,so he hides behind not knowing anything about the topic or being distant..he more likely knows what he's doing which is why he stated that he provides (traditional,remember?) Finding a therapist or trusted friend to vent to or release this might be helpful,...? Good luck!
Lots of women feel the way you do. I know society doesn't exactly teach men to be carers but I think once a person becomes a parent they need to invest in learning those skills. I am sorry you are experiencing this and hope it gets better, somehow
The best time to start saving for children, is when you first decide that you will have any. Children aren't cheap, and a good man (both man and women) leaves an inheritance to his children children.
If things are not working please just co parent,choose your mental health because if you don't you'll project your frustrations on those kids and be the cause of their childhood trauma.i grew up with a super bitter mum and nothing we did was ever good enough because she wasn't happy from within
I know all cocomelon songs coz we are always watching during the day and at night coz my baby girl won't sleep for nothing 😘😂😂😂I looooove you guys so much
My fiancé pointed out to me he can’t remember the last time I bought a new dress for myself but I buy my son’s clothes every time I see something that would fit him n it hit me😂parenthood 😢
I once worked in a company where you go for a maternity leave and when you're back after 3 months, your place in filled whatsoever.. the reason given is, the space had to be filled.. and now too bad .. if there is another opportunity you're given that one, if not then peace out✌️🤨.. Sad!!
You should bring on someone who's decided to be child-free and ask them the minimum requirement they feel like they fall short on that made them decide not to have children and how they feel like they would fail as a parent
@@moraasheila6963 because of eww the number of single parent house hold is higher than ever in this country and the world. Fyi. The woke movement has bn selling a lie to people and most of the realise it when it too late..... I also suspect that you think kids dont need both parents but do you background on the statics of kids from single parents household and thank me later.
I grew up in a space where my parents clearly stayed for us and i wish they didn't just cause of the toxic atmosphere.love you guys ❤️
When listening to Shiv and Shikie especially, this conversation can make you feel some sort of way, because you can see how intentional parenting looks and sounds like. Knowing you never got to see this kind of parenting from your parents, little to no support, love or validation can bring some feelings of resentment.
Comparison is warranted now more so if you are an adult and watch yourself with your kids and wonder why the bare minimum was even an issue from their end but you can't dwell there, those feelings once in a while come, you feel like I'd have benefitted from some good intentional parenting but maji yashamwagika, hayatazoleka. You try to forgive them and promise yourself to do better.
being brought up in a toxic marriage between my parents ,made me learn a lot. Till date I wish they separated coz them being together made us think some toxic behavior in marriage are normal , to a point that ends up messing your relationships when you are grown , so I think when its becoming toxic ,just leave for the of yourself and your kids
sake*
I agree.. being born and brought up by parents in a toxic marriage wounds you in ways you will never know.. when you grow up, and start dating that is when you realize just how bad that marriage messed you up..
For that first question, I have a slogan, don't stay in a toxic or unhappy relationship for your kids because you only end up spreading the toxicity to the kids and blaming them for being unhappy....
I grew up with both parents, but they separated later when I was 9 years. I still think that is the best decision they ever did. I am proud of my mum, she did not stay for us. Because if she did, who knows we would be the most resentful children.
I love how mature Shikie and Shivs relationship is..Loved the conversation ❤️❤️
I honestly believe wanjiru will be the best mother.cant wait for that time.. it will be beautiful to listen 👂 and watch if you decide to show us that part of your life when the right time comes and happens
Being a mom of 2, I can say that sacrifice comes naturally,but always remember the kids will grow irregardless. It's always a tricky balance and a thin line between being yourself and losing yourself being a parent.
It takes alot of self-awareness and being in the right mindset to balance.
About Education policy,I think its best to start immediately the baby comes.
You will buy a big tv for it to be used for coco melon 😭😭😭Felt this in my soul!! I’m watching you guys on my phone coz my tv is being used for coco melon and my laptop for games 😂
😂
🤣🤣 Totally relate, had to buy a TV for my bedroom, tondu ma ma😅😅... The big screen is no longer mine, kids! 😖
Me too Jehova
😂😂😂
How Ben is looking at Shiru when he's talking about kids ❤❤❤❤❤... Aki jameni have mercy on the singles 😂😂😂
Ben is so ready to become a parent!
I agree 💯 he is very excited you can tell
Wisdom Shared is wisdom gained. These two couples are just very wise. Thanks for the wisdom I've gained from this episode.
Great questions, makes one appreciate the complexity of children. Ben&Wanjiru, let's hear more about how your faith in God informs your answers to the questions. There's barely any mention of it.
Parenting is just a "wueeh" most of the time . I love this conversation and I've really picked a lot from this. I'm a first time mom and God's grace has been sufficient 🙏
Not me a teenager hooked on this episode!!! Very informative guys 👏I'll be back for reference after a few years💯
How soon is a few 😂😂. 1,?2,?,3?
God's timing
The moment shikie said the fear will walk with you hand in hand 😀 I felt it 😭
Shiv Is very calm and wise
Shiv 😹😹I was expecting “I am an award winning fitness da da da” but its okay to play it cool …
Happy watching you guys, my mum sacrificed to stay for us, me and my brothers, it was toxic, she got sick, she overgave herself, and now here am 25 years and I don't want to have that kuvumilia thing in me, kila mtu ako na life yake even a one day old, no no , if it's toxic, run
About grandparents weuh kwanza being like the first grandkid Mimi I feel like I would give them baby for a day I see how they would stay with him,mumempee uji,meno imetoka?,ako na kilo ngapi? Ako warm?ameanza kutembea? At first it was irritating but nowadays I am just cool grandparents can just piss you off but just understand them.
Millenial parents out here spewing wisdom..cool beans!
I'm so excited about this 🤗 never saw this coming
Mee too 😘😘
Pleasantly surprised
Me too
An amazing surprise though💯❤️
One thing I know, when we know God, we walk differently. We preach differently. There is no agreement with the counsel of the ungodly.
This conversation has really rooted my decision not to have kids 😂😂😂 Thank you !
Great Perspective! ain't nothing wrong with not wanting kids, you know!
lol 😂😂😂
Me three
Don't be afraid you guys remember you serve a living God who is Jehova Jireh therefore be confident..Live life and enjoy
This episode was so heartwarming and eye opening at the same time. Looking forward to part 2!!🥳
I loved and enjoyed this so much. Wanjiru and Ben you definitely chose the right couple for this topic❤️. My Thursday's are blissful because of your podcast. Good Job 👍
I am not planning on having kids but still liked the topic.
I wonder if Ben and Wanjiru were more nervous than usual today. Ya'll were rather quiet, reserved, hands crossed. Maybe it was just one of those days, Great episode still.
I noticed too. The chemistry wasn't flowing. I guess it's because they're not intimate friends with the Simanis
@@winniewainaina3143 probably, so far they have had their friends on so this is why maybe today it was a bit different. Getting to know new people on camera can be hard.
@@winniewainaina3143 yeah. It's just content creation but they aren't besties. Simani's are also very chill people and Ben is the life of the party 🤣 The indifference was in their energy.
I love the aspect of splitting the podcast into part 1 n 2
The all wise Creator hard wired parenting basics into the human being for survival of the species. He also hardwired family and community into the psyche of humanity so that parents and offspring (all people basically) have a support system to learn from and lean on they navigate through the life. Sema divine wisdom!
Parenting doesn't come so naturally especially for the first born, you learn on the job. You'll be surprised even things like breastfeeding don't come so naturally to many mothers. But it's a rewarding journey.
I don't think parenting comes naturally,until now I feel like my husband doesn't know how to stay with baby at all at times he just sleeps while holding him,when sleeping he doesn't even remember there is a baby in bed,for me I feel like he intentionally doesn't care at times.but he says when he provides he cares I don't like talking about it but I hate that statement.anyway I love the topic.
Sounds like he is traditional..to mean he doesn't believe in helping ,so he hides behind not knowing anything about the topic or being distant..he more likely knows what he's doing which is why he stated that he provides (traditional,remember?) Finding a therapist or trusted friend to vent to or release this might be helpful,...? Good luck!
Lots of women feel the way you do. I know society doesn't exactly teach men to be carers but I think once a person becomes a parent they need to invest in learning those skills. I am sorry you are experiencing this and hope it gets better, somehow
Things will change when he is a toddler. Maybe your husband is afraid he'll harm him because he's little and delicate.
Im happyy to be here😂😂
Watching from Embu😍😍
Yeeeey, Ku finally! I was also in Ku
The best time to start saving for children, is when you first decide that you will have any. Children aren't cheap, and a good man (both man and women) leaves an inheritance to his children children.
If things are not working please just co parent,choose your mental health because if you don't you'll project your frustrations on those kids and be the cause of their childhood trauma.i grew up with a super bitter mum and nothing we did was ever good enough because she wasn't happy from within
I know all cocomelon songs coz we are always watching during the day and at night coz my baby girl won't sleep for nothing 😘😂😂😂I looooove you guys so much
About staying, a happy parent makes a happy home and a happy child! thats all
Leteni ABRAHAM'S EMPIRE 😊 I'd love to watch that set up!
Am a new mom and this is very very informative.... Thank you guys❤️
Oh wow We clearly didn't see this coming 😍❤️
Your content is so wholesome
My fiancé pointed out to me he can’t remember the last time I bought a new dress for myself but I buy my son’s clothes every time I see something that would fit him n it hit me😂parenthood 😢
The 1st newborn I held was my girl it comes naturally and also a few learning here and there and she's alive 5yrs later
Yaaay! Shikie and Shiv been wanting to see them together for the longest
I never comment,,but this is veeeeeery interesting!!!you should do more videos together ❤️...Shiv and Shikie lots of love
Alll day...all daaaaayyyy waiting for this.... I'm so happy aki😂❤️
One word..insightful💯🧡
i am already over excited for this one cause shiv and shikie are just IIIITTT!!
I totally enjoyed this conversation.
Interesting conversation.. Do more of guests.. Looking out for more
My life would be more spontaneous without kids 😉but also empty without one
shiv talks like doctor love in classic 105
You are talking to midwives already🤣
Haki Ben😆you made me laugh so loud and yet I am currently offended by something😃
Growth. I love it yoh!
Fave with fave, for this episode let me just sit back ,take notes as i wait to be there.
my favorite couple; The Simani's
I once worked in a company where you go for a maternity leave and when you're back after 3 months, your place in filled whatsoever.. the reason given is, the space had to be filled.. and now too bad .. if there is another opportunity you're given that one, if not then peace out✌️🤨.. Sad!!
😂😂😂Ben is funny
Ati who are you talking to surely?😂😂😂
Always informative love you guys
Wanjiru bad cop... Ben good cop😂😂
Great episode 👌💯
Thika Thika hits different for those who went to MKU 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The theme song is dope 🔥
Yeeeeeewy
Great conversation but the vibes were not vibing. I guess it's because you guys are not intimate friends unlike previous guests
Yaaaaaay🎉
Yaaaaay 🥳🥳🥳🥳♥️
Weeh, I think one should be emotionally prepared . The whole idea of having kids is soo scary
@Faith Ndinda, 🙈🙈very scary 🤭
You should bring on someone who's decided to be child-free and ask them the minimum requirement they feel like they fall short on that made them decide not to have children and how they feel like they would fail as a parent
Maybe they don't have it in them to sacrifice for a kid. And that's okay. The main question to ask yourself is why do you want kids?
Cant remember where i heared this but somebody said "marriage is not necessarily about been happy but duty to raise family"
Do you agree with it🤣😆
Eww
@@thegodlyprincess_kenya All you have to go listen to how the pannel has answered the question of if the would stay for the kids...
@@moraasheila6963 because of eww the number of single parent house hold is higher than ever in this country and the world. Fyi. The woke movement has bn selling a lie to people and most of the realise it when it too late..... I also suspect that you think kids dont need both parents but do you background on the statics of kids from single parents household and thank me later.
@@xpresstv7689 link
wanjiru karibia kiti.
Staying for the kids has never worked. Kids don't grow healthy in toxic energy.
Nice one❤
Kidneys on ebay 🤣🤣🤣🤣 insane
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I'm like a Wanjiru... I fear having babies
@shiks, we thank God for the internet but Ben is overthinking it
after listening to the intro song for the 5th time before content.
Shiv isn't really there
😍😍😍
Rottweiler breeds are very aggressive, I would not like them around kids,
Is it me or Shiv just seems uninterested in this Convo. Been observing his body language and well..
He's always laid back you should see him in the other youtube channel 'over 25'...i guess he's just like that
Very true Shiv is like that. Making him a great hubby to Shikkie... They are good for each other.
shiv hukua hivo ,nothing like him being not interested
Haha
Hi guys!kindly make an effort come to TUK.we feeling left out🥺especially mimi kama fan😅...please!please!please!