I agree,I was fortunate to hear Ms .Niellson give a concert in Toronto,late in her career,but the magic was still there. Some wonderful singers around today,but somehow the talents of Callas, Niellson, Sutherland,L.Price,Norman,de los Angeles,Caballe,to mention those that immediately come to mind,also Schwarzkopf,are missing today. 2:13
@@matthewtravisano1097 yes, very warm and womanly. Turandot doesn’t need to be steely and frigid. Arroyo was another very warm and even girlish Turandot.
I don't have any intention to criticize an experienced singer. But sincerely it's difficult to understand why the Met hired her as Turandot. Her voice is too light for the role. Her singing is mono-tone. She doesn't have any true emotion. There is no reason why she has to sing this role in the cathedral. I watched Turandot in Helsinki in RUclips. (It was unfortunately erased by OperaVision's condition. What a pity. People have right to access the best performance.) Young Astghik Khanamiryan sang Turandot, which was absolutely historical singing with full of dignity. Her voice is deeply spiritual. She made this role to be her own's. Perfection and spontaneity. I think casting of each theater should listen to artists without any bias. Collecting big names doesn't touch.
I’ve seen this over the top production over the years from the time it was new. The two sopranos who came closest to the mark were Eva Marton and Gwyneth Jones. Most of the others were just loud, with no nuance.
Dimitrova's Turandot was the finest after Nilsson's, no doubt about it. Jones was superlative but she sang it rather late in her career and everything below A had a vibrato that was unpleasant. Marton also gave few great performances but by 1986 her voice was out of control, just loud, not harmonics not nuances, just loud and by 1989 voice was completely gone.
Hi Wotan! I caught Jones on a very good night, and there was no wobble. My wife & I went backstage to meet her. She was lovely and very soft-spoken. My wife was totally baffled - she asked, “was that the same lady who just obliterated the chorus and orchestra?” As for Marton, she had a few spectacular years, then declined exactly as you described. Regards, Wotan!@@Wotan123456789
Yikes, the numerous pitch problems and flat (both in pitch and characterization) singing make this difficult to listen to. Not to mention the drab, overtly soft orchestra. I guess we'll continue to beat the dead horse and ask again: where are the true dramatic voices that can do justice to this repertoire?
Thanks for commenting on the pitch problems. That was the first thing I noticed. As for the orchestra playing soft, is it possible the conductor had no other choice? Or would it have been better to drown out the singing?
@@chocolatesouljah maybe "had no other choice" is the wrong way to put it. Perhaps "did what they had to do, given the situation" is better. There is certainly another choice, and I believe the orchestra should be on fire in this moment. A true powerhouse of an entrance aria that needs to make a statement!
Yes. She’s producing her air too far back in her throat. This is where solid technique have been lost on most singers today. The bite and necessary squillo are lost particularly as she scoops up instead of taking aim at the upper register with controlled abdominal depth.
I Know it was a rehearsal, but what a wonderful Turandot, no screaming just beautiful sound. I completely disagree with some of the opinions. Juergen Haar
The differences of opinions expressed here only indicates to me that aural & visual postings on You Tube should not feature dress rehearsals especially when comments there are at variance with what I have heard regarding the actual FIRST performance. It is unfair to the artists to be evaluated in such a manner, IMO.
Pankratova has a surprisingly sweet tone for such a huge voice. Extremely pleasant to the ear. But this practice of posting dress rehearsals on RUclips should be stopped once and fore all. It does not do any favours neither to the Met nor to the singer.
Absolutely. Pankratova is a good singer who doesn't come across like she should in this video. Her riddle scene in particular on opening night was excellent.
@@morganhunt1191 posting dress rehearsals is criminal. Singers are trying to hit the stage marks, trying to figure out the acoustics of the hall. It's not a performance! They are not singing full throttle. They are trying to get as much additional information about the production from their first time on stage as it is humanly possible. And yet the Met posts a stage rehearsal once again.
Having heard her live in this production, she sang it better in performance than this dress rehearsal. Her voice is warmer in person and more accurate.
She sounds like Turandot's imaginary little sister. What's wrong with opera singing? You can't listen to any dramatic parts these days, it's terrible, whether it's Wagner, Verdi or Strauss - all artificially enlarged voices without substance.
I quite like the tone but she seems short of breath and quick to finish some notes. Not as bad as some they show in this role but maybe it was just a dress rehearsal
Will we ever return to the highest standards in opera? Good question! There is some chance... if we return to good vocal traditions. Currently, dramatic parts are performed by lyrical opera voices. This is a mistake. The second mistake - in the 19th century dramatic soprano parts were written in 432 and now there is 440. The result: the note of the part is higher by a whole tone. Dramatic sopranos have turned into mezzo-sopranos, and the parts of dramatic sopranos are sung by lyric sopranos.The third mistake - modern conductors like dark and large voices, so light sopranos necessarily want to meet the tastes quickly...
@@Aneta_Skarzynski432 is not even close to being a semitone let alone whole tone. 398 is a whole tone down, 415 is a semitone down, so 432 isn’t even a quarter tone down.
@haarkellner she is a new Turandot, with the most beautiful voice and different expresions. We should all be thankful for such a voice. Glad she came to the MET ❤
All those who say that She does not scream and that She sings, listen again. The singer barely opens her mouth, and holds each note for a second or less, and stops singing as quickly as possible. Just because there is no wobble doesn't mean it's ok now. The orchestra plays extremely quietly, and she does not overpower it - is not able to! I had the opportunity to hear her live. Such a small voice, which is so forced to oblivion, that I left the hall together with some people. And I was sitting in the front rows. The singer is terrible and a horror to listen to. Simply really bad.
this is a rehearsal and she’s clearly not fully warmed up. you didn’t listen to opening night, did you? she scored a great success as did all involved. a great performance.
Because of comments like this one the Met should stop posting dress rehearsal on its social media. For good. Pankratowa was walking through her marks on stage and actual singing was the least important thing during the DRESS STAGE, for her or anybody involved in the rehearsal. But Met posted this video anyway. Shame in them. They've always been known for having abbreviated rehearsal periods, but it's a new low even for a US company.
@@freshname you can tell this poster marieantoinette is clearly a troll. she says the voice is small - this is a singer who sings Brünnhilde and Turandot. she said she left the performance - she was invited to the dress rehearsal? she’s obviously lying. and 15 morons liked her comment. the world is full of idiots.
I saw Pankratova sing Brunnhilde in Siegfried at the Royal Festival Hall here in the UK. It remains one of the most impressive soprano voices - both for projection and beauty of tone - that I've ever heard live. Recordings don't do it justice.
@@CharlesJonathanStyles i did not know she had sung Brünnhilde. i saw her Farberin on video - a very womanly and sympathetic portrayal, no screeching or screaming harridan
@@dragicaklomp9810 i listened to the livestream from the Met last night of the opening night. she sounded warm and rich, tender and beautiful. the whole cast, conductor, chorus and orchestra were wonderful!
Hearing this I miss the power and the clearnesses of Birgit Nilsson’s voice even more
I agree,I was fortunate to hear Ms .Niellson give a concert in Toronto,late in her career,but the magic was still there. Some wonderful singers around today,but somehow the talents of Callas, Niellson, Sutherland,L.Price,Norman,de los Angeles,Caballe,to mention those that immediately come to mind,also Schwarzkopf,are missing today. 2:13
news flash for you: she’s dead
I would argue this voice more warmth
@@matthewtravisano1097 yes, very warm and womanly. Turandot doesn’t need to be steely and frigid. Arroyo was another very warm and even girlish Turandot.
@@biancacastafiore8760
So icy princess is not true? 😂
Please read JUST A LITTLE about what this opera is all about.
Please.
Good training for singers is hard to find
good comments on yt are even harder
I don't have any intention to criticize an experienced singer. But sincerely it's difficult to understand why the Met hired her as Turandot. Her voice is too light for the role. Her singing is mono-tone. She doesn't have any true emotion. There is no reason why she has to sing this role in the cathedral.
I watched Turandot in Helsinki in RUclips. (It was unfortunately erased by OperaVision's condition. What a pity. People have right to access the best performance.) Young Astghik Khanamiryan sang Turandot, which was absolutely historical singing with full of dignity. Her voice is deeply spiritual. She made this role to be her own's. Perfection and spontaneity. I think casting of each theater should listen to artists without any bias. Collecting big names doesn't touch.
Khanamiryan's "In questa reggia" is survived. Enjoy!
ruclips.net/video/ezvmkUb8k6E/видео.htmlsi=42CVVquRvgQZ3bbz
I’ve seen this over the top production over the years from the time it was new. The two sopranos who came closest to the mark were Eva Marton and Gwyneth Jones. Most of the others were just loud, with no nuance.
Dimitrova's Turandot was the finest after Nilsson's, no doubt about it.
Jones was superlative but she sang it rather late in her career and everything below A had a vibrato that was unpleasant.
Marton also gave few great performances but by 1986 her voice was out of control, just loud, not harmonics not nuances, just loud and by 1989 voice was completely gone.
Hi Wotan! I caught Jones on a very good night, and there was no wobble. My wife & I went backstage to meet her. She was lovely and very soft-spoken. My wife was totally baffled - she asked, “was that the same lady who just obliterated the chorus and orchestra?” As for Marton, she had a few spectacular years, then declined exactly as you described.
Regards, Wotan!@@Wotan123456789
OUCH
Could Turandot and the conductor agree on a tempo?
Yikes, the numerous pitch problems and flat (both in pitch and characterization) singing make this difficult to listen to. Not to mention the drab, overtly soft orchestra. I guess we'll continue to beat the dead horse and ask again: where are the true dramatic voices that can do justice to this repertoire?
Thanks for commenting on the pitch problems. That was the first thing I noticed. As for the orchestra playing soft, is it possible the conductor had no other choice? Or would it have been better to drown out the singing?
this is a rehearsal. the opening night was live-streamed last night and she was wonderful.
@@chocolatesouljah maybe "had no other choice" is the wrong way to put it. Perhaps "did what they had to do, given the situation" is better. There is certainly another choice, and I believe the orchestra should be on fire in this moment. A true powerhouse of an entrance aria that needs to make a statement!
Yes. She’s producing her air too far back in her throat. This is where solid technique have been lost on most singers today. The bite and necessary squillo are lost particularly as she scoops up instead of taking aim at the upper register with controlled abdominal depth.
I Know it was a rehearsal, but what a wonderful Turandot, no screaming just beautiful sound. I completely disagree with some of the opinions. Juergen Haar
The differences of opinions expressed here only indicates to me that aural & visual postings on You Tube should not feature dress rehearsals especially when comments there are at variance with what I have heard regarding the actual FIRST performance. It is unfair to the artists to be evaluated in such a manner, IMO.
Pankratova has a surprisingly sweet tone for such a huge voice. Extremely pleasant to the ear. But this practice of posting dress rehearsals on RUclips should be stopped once and fore all. It does not do any favours neither to the Met nor to the singer.
Absolutely. Pankratova is a good singer who doesn't come across like she should in this video. Her riddle scene in particular on opening night was excellent.
@@morganhunt1191 posting dress rehearsals is criminal. Singers are trying to hit the stage marks, trying to figure out the acoustics of the hall. It's not a performance! They are not singing full throttle. They are trying to get as much additional information about the production from their first time on stage as it is humanly possible. And yet the Met posts a stage rehearsal once again.
but they need them to drum up interest and for publicity
@@freshnameshe sang similarly when I saw her at the MET. Emotionless and flat
Having heard her live in this production, she sang it better in performance than this dress rehearsal. Her voice is warmer in person and more accurate.
Thank you!
Makes me miss Dimitrova even more.
Linda voz, belo palco!!! 👏👏
I saw her in Ekaterinburg in Tosca few years ago)
She sounds like Turandot's imaginary little sister. What's wrong with opera singing? You can't listen to any dramatic parts these days, it's terrible, whether it's Wagner, Verdi or Strauss - all artificially enlarged voices without substance.
It’s like Elektra trying to scare everyone off the stage..
There will be a new FroSch here in Berlin next season. If she sings Färberin, I won't be going.@@user-zq4fv8sj6v
She has an enormous voice with a silken sheen. Truly remarkable in the big Strauss roles live. Her Brunhilde too is enormous volume wise
I saw this production with Jane Eaglen and Luciano Pavarotti.
Good times!
Where is Othalie Graham when you need her?
I quite like the tone but she seems short of breath and quick to finish some notes. Not as bad as some they show in this role but maybe it was just a dress rehearsal
This is sad... the age old saying is "she can look lke Turandot or sound like Turandot" -in this case she is neither...
Unbelievable...it's like they just cast anyone who can barely sing it
What happened to mankind? Will we ever return to the highest standards?
Will we ever return to the highest standards in opera? Good question!
There is some chance... if we return to good vocal traditions. Currently, dramatic parts are performed by lyrical opera voices. This is a mistake. The second mistake - in the 19th century dramatic soprano parts were written in 432 and now there is 440. The result: the note of the part is higher by a whole tone. Dramatic sopranos have turned into mezzo-sopranos, and the parts of dramatic sopranos are sung by lyric sopranos.The third mistake - modern conductors like dark and large voices, so light sopranos necessarily want to meet the tastes quickly...
lol
@@Aneta_Skarzynski432 is not even close to being a semitone let alone whole tone. 398 is a whole tone down, 415 is a semitone down, so 432 isn’t even a quarter tone down.
@haarkellner she is a new Turandot, with the most beautiful voice and different expresions. We should all be thankful for such a voice. Glad she came to the MET ❤
All those who say that She does not scream and that She sings, listen again. The singer barely opens her mouth, and holds each note for a second or less, and stops singing as quickly as possible.
Just because there is no wobble doesn't mean it's ok now. The orchestra plays extremely quietly, and she does not overpower it - is not able to! I had the opportunity to hear her live.
Such a small voice, which is so forced to oblivion, that I left the hall together with some people. And I was sitting in the front rows.
The singer is terrible and a horror to listen to. Simply really bad.
this is a rehearsal and she’s clearly not fully warmed up. you didn’t listen to opening night, did you? she scored a great success as did all involved. a great performance.
Anyone who actually knew anything about opera wouldn't sit in the front rows lol.
Because of comments like this one the Met should stop posting dress rehearsal on its social media. For good. Pankratowa was walking through her marks on stage and actual singing was the least important thing during the DRESS STAGE, for her or anybody involved in the rehearsal. But Met posted this video anyway. Shame in them. They've always been known for having abbreviated rehearsal periods, but it's a new low even for a US company.
@@freshname you can tell this poster marieantoinette is clearly a troll. she says the voice is small - this is a singer who sings Brünnhilde and Turandot. she said she left the performance - she was invited to the dress rehearsal? she’s obviously lying.
and 15 morons liked her comment. the world is full of idiots.
marie, you are just another yt troll
No , no , no , BIRGIT NILSSON and Eva Marton.
Bwaaaahaaaahaaaa
keep living in the past
This is quite horrible.
Pitchy and has vibrato issues.
you have hearing issues so…
@@biancacastafiore8760
😂😂😂
Not good.
Beautiful voice just terrible phrasing 😊
not icy enough
Not dramatic enough, that´s what matters to this role.
紅白歌合戦のトリの小林幸子さん?
魔笛の夜の女王ともイメージカブる
finally a Turandot who doesn’t scream, strain or wobble
I agree, Pankratova is a fine singer with a good top en enough volume.
I saw Pankratova sing Brunnhilde in Siegfried at the Royal Festival Hall here in the UK. It remains one of the most impressive soprano voices - both for projection and beauty of tone - that I've ever heard live. Recordings don't do it justice.
@@CharlesJonathanStyles i did not know she had sung Brünnhilde. i saw her Farberin on video - a very womanly and sympathetic portrayal, no screeching or screaming harridan
@@dragicaklomp9810 i listened to the livestream from the Met last night of the opening night. she sounded warm and rich, tender and beautiful. the whole cast, conductor, chorus and orchestra were wonderful!
@@biancacastafiore8760How can I rewatch thay