Lei Muni - Chen Taijiquan, Lao Jia Yi Lu

Lei Muni (1911-1986), uno de los principales discípulos de Chen Fake en Pekín, fue un reconocido maestro de la 18 generación del estilo Chen de Taijiquan.
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En este vídeo ejecuta la primera forma del estilo Chen (Lao Jia Yi Lu).
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[@orihx3]

Excellent display of Yi Lu form by the late GM Lei Muni.
To clarify, in Beijing Chen Taiji, we only have Yi Lu and Er Lu (no Lao Jia vs Xin Jia). We practice the forms that Chen Fa Ke taught, which in Chen Jia Gou terms is "Xin Jia". In Chen Jia Gou, they needed a way to distinguish the forms passed down from Chen Zhao Pi and those taught by Chen Fa Ke, which is why they started using the terminology "Lao Jia" and "Xin Jia".

[@frankhelen1569]

orihx3j

[@JPBD1959]

Muy bueno. No sé qué tenen estos viejos maestros pero da gusto verlos

[@user-nz5ss8ud2f]

老架一路→❌
新架一路→○

[@circulodelretiro4649]

En realidad lo de Lao Jia y Xin Jia no está tan claro. Todos los alumnos de Chen Fake de Pekín llamaban a lo que habían aprendido de él Lao Jia, y esa es la línea que seguimos nosotros. A mí me da igual cómo se llame al estilo, la verdad es que veo tantas diferencias (y similitudes) entre lo que llaman Lao Jia en Chenjiagou y el Xin Jia que yo he visto, como entre el Lao Jia de Chenjiagou y el de Pekín. Para mí todo es Chen con la misma estructura y diferencias en matices y ejecución.

[@kelvinng2233]

Actually, Chen Fa Ke (17th) is one generation older than Chen Zhao Pi (18th). So Chen Fa Ke's style should more appropriately called the old style, rather than new style.

[@tonbonthemon]

But didn't Chen Fake himself teach what is known as "laojia" before developing "xinjia" on his own?

[@KingoftheJiangl]

​@@tonbonthemonwell my comment will be 5 years too late, but better late than never!
Chen fake didn't call his form xinjia, the village people called Chen zhaokui's form xinjia. That's because they first learned Chen Zhaopi's form. To the village, the old vs new is merely the order in which they learned it, not the order that they were developed.
They may be right about the chronology too, I am not sure. But my perspective on the issue is that Chen zhaopi form is a simplified version of the same form that Chen fake taught and that the reason he taught simplified form is for ease of teaching to new students. His body was injured after the cultural revolution if I am not mistaken and he was not able to demonstrate as well, so much of his instruction was oral.
Another interesting note is that Yang style which is Yang Luchan's version of Chen small frame has the same movements in grasping sparrows tail as the Chen fake and Chen zhaokui lazily tying clothes. They're the same movements, and the technique names sound very similar in Mandarin. However Chen zhaopi's form lacks the detail that is common in the Yang, small frame and the Chen Fake form, which to my perspective means that it is not that the 3 forms are newer and they added the same detail coincidentally, too unlikely. It is rather because the Chen zhaopi form was simplified for whatever the reason was. Times were tough.

[@gsombrerog]

Muy bueno, pero se trata de la forma XINJIA YILU no de la laojia yilu