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Bro please interview acharya prashant ( dont make video on him, only interview will be the best way to know his views about conciousness and existence, dont worry , he is not some pseudoscience teacher , he talks about pure inquiry , i want u to have interview with him because u would ask some good questions which will help me 🙏🙏 please.....)
Hey pranav , Dhruv Rathee had recently uploaded a video on "aurangzeb vs shivaji" . And during sponser of the video at 1:28s he was promoting pseudo science like water memory. Please do take action on this pranav.
Atleast some Indian origin doctor in the US is critical about Ayurveda. The general public must be made aware of thr the dangers of alternative medicine.
@@CripplingDualitycompletely agree with you , even if not lawsuit in india you just get a lot of hate or backlash citing he is talking aginst our culture and over nation thankfully this problem is not much in the tier 1 2 cities but in the villages and small towns problem still exist
He’s not critical of it, he’s biased towards it. If it wasn’t for Mike questioning him, he wouldn’t have thought twice about the pseudoscience he’s propagating… he does a lot of this on almost all of his videos.
@@user-it2sk8rb9z yes of course even other faiths have a lot of bs going on. When it comes to science and religion it can never peacefully co-exist. Reason being, one seeks truth with evidence and logic and one dictates potential truth without questioning the lack of evidence and logic because it heavily relies on "faith". The definition of both is literally the opposite and applies to other religions as well!
@@user-it2sk8rb9z I think the reason he addresses misinformation spread by Hindus is because he was personally affected by it, coming from a Hindu family and wants to educate others to inform them about the the different types of pseudoscientific misinformation being spread in the country, and also because he’s Indian and the Hindu narrative is dominant here. He’s also called out flat earthers, and the irrationality of religion in general too. He’s gotten many hate comments and possibly even threats from insecure Hindus who don’t want their religion scrutinised.
Dr. K's defense of ayurveda in that podcast was the most impressive defense I have ever heard. It was eloquent, sophisticated, and sounded legitimate because he is credentialed medical practitioner of Indian origin. Also that podcast was the most nuanced discussion on the topic where no one was trying to win. If it wasn't for Dr. Mike's ability to think on his feet and challenge Dr. K, that podcast could have pushed so many English speaking educated people to feel more validated in using ayurveda. Having said that, Dr. K many times clarifed that he isn't defender of the practice and agrees on ayurveda having major flaws. Only because Dr. Mike was taking a strong stand on one side, Dr. K had to take a stronger stand on the other side just for the sake of having a healthy discussion. Dr. K was eloquently presenting the arguments on behalf of the ayurvedic community, not necessarily believing in them himself fully. Being devils advocate.
So I need to take side on fake things like flat earthers, anti vaccine stuff to have an healthy debate? Dr.K argument is just for the healthy conversation and not about the correct thing. The correct thing is ayurveda is a pseudoscience. Involve more people like chemist, biologists etc and they will tell you you don't need ayurveda or any other system to tell current science about drug development. It's too advance and too complex that it's very far away from the line of thinking of the people who studied ayurveda.
To be honest, I am personally done with discussions on Ayurveda and Homeopathy. It is like trying find a common ground between a globe and a flat earth. There is no common ground. Sometimes one is true, the other is not.
Reality is many of people who claim to be a ayurvedic doctor or give advice on ayurveda didn't know that there is a ayurved book , they just put some herbs and says it's ayurvedic
The whole debate about Ayurveda VS modern medicine is unnecessary. If you zoom out on the timeline you can see that Ayurveda is what we had during the olden days. We didn't know about Germ theory, the immune system, and many more things during that time. Science or whatever you call it is not that developed and they did their best with whatever understanding they had during those times. With time our understanding of the human body improved, and related science also improved. Ideally, we should all move to a more advanced understanding that is Modern medicine. Ayurveda people had very good intentions and they tried their best to understand the human body and no hate to Ayurveda or our old rishi munis. I am sure if those great names from Ayurveda were alive today, they would tell people to switch to Modern medicine. The problem is that Ayurveda becomes a part of culture and our ego and identity and when people are running high on emotion they cannot think rationally. I can proudly say that we had Ayurveda, just like I can proudly say that our king used to have great swords, great weapons, and great armor, but all of them are now in the Museum with full respect and I am grateful for that and it's a great part of our history. Just because those weapons are part of our culture, tradition, and history doesn't mean that we will still use them! Do we want our soldiers to use swords on border patrol? Of course not because we have better weapons, we have efficient weapons. Similarly, Ayurveda has a place in history now. We should keep our Ego, and identity aside because it's a matter of people's life.
Diet Lifestyle is a proposal for Ayurveda. If the great names were alive today they would use Modern Technology with Ayurveda Diet Lifestyle. Even today for disease like Diabetes, diet lifestyle is a solution and not specific Tablets/Pills. Also, Ayurvedic Pills are a scam.
@@prodigious5766 we must view them as outdated info that was once followed while acknowledging the wonders of modern medical science and relying on it instead
most germs are killed in cooking , and a far less issue , this does not mean i agree with the hand example used by doctor k but just that your example doesnt hold
So grateful for your channel, Pranav! I'm a white American who married into an Indian family, and I started to learn of all these things from my in-laws through WhatsApp content they send (lol). I didn't buy into the pseudoscientific stuff but wasn't sure where to find resources into debunking it. Your channel has been great for giving me a more unbiased and objective look into all of these ideas.
WhatsApp and Indian uncles and aunties is altogether a whole new world. Good luck to you dealing with it because it sometimes can get to very frustratingly foolish levels.
38:39 It's a shame that Ayush got more funding than DBT (Department of Biotechnology) which covers many of the life sciences in that financial year, clearly they had their priorities set. Ofc evidence based medicine will be unaffordable for the poor and some diseases will remain neglected when private industry (whether Indian or foreign) funds much of the R&D and maintains a monopoly through patents but that's a separate issue.
osteopathy is also pseudoscience according to Wikipedia and Dr Mike has DO degrees not MD But US has legitimised it and those docs are also allowed to write modern medicine and India will do the same with ayurveda in the coming years
Say what you want, due to a soft tissue damage my orthopaedic doctor wanted to conduct surgery, instead I went for a12 week ayurvedic treatment and have been fine ever since. Does that mean I am going to treat everything with ayurveda No. Everything has its place.
@thomascromwell6840 Bro people can feel difference in health themselves. Maybe he diagnosed too. Why do you all always have an urge to debunk something even though there is nothing to debunk? Ayurveda has broken ways of diagnosis and all...but some of the treatments tho? They are damn effective compared to modern medical science. I, myself knows a lot of people, just in my family who benefited from Ayurveda.
@gouthamkrishna7574 if u actually watched the full video , he mentioned at start that people are gonna quote anecdotal evidence and you are doing the same It may have worked for you good but it might be the same for any other person to whom you are gonna recommend ayurveda in future and it will lead to worsening of their condition That's why standards are important and debunking is needed for unproven medicinal practices which ayurveda have Once all the bad parts are debunked and removed the good parts can help people and improve quality of living And he also mentioned many bad things that are happening because of these ayurvedic medicine
@@gouthamkrishna7574 How can you diagnose yourself without having medicine training? How you know it's not placebo? Nothing to debunk? Pseudoscience has always been debunked. My fufa had similar feeling when he went to Sudarshanam Ayurveda Eye Hospital for his degenerative eye treatment and his condition became worse. He even got an opinion in AIIMS Delhi and they recommend injection which did improve his condition but he didn't want to be on injections.
One of The typical differences between Western thinking and Eastern thinking - cause and effect is the way they approach life, and we are still stuck with Vishwa guru propaganda (not sure if this is arrogance or ignorance or superiority complex out of inferiority complex)- debate over for me on such particular topic - great job, Pranav
@@kingflockthewarrior202 You can take an Indian out of India, However, you can never take India out of him - so Yeah, I still live in India in that angle and, jokes apart -Yes I used to live in India and worked as an Assistant professor in Radiology in Government Hospital, but that was history - I still teach in Government hospitals in India, but now I teach as an International faculty, that is love for teaching and science. I also started a RUclips channel in Telugu to educate people on science, you are right I still live and love India.
Dr Mike seems to be remarkably patient and calm in offering his skepticism. I doubt I could keep my calm if I were in his place, I could feel my rage build up with the ill-informed claims he was making, as a student of microbiology I'd have erupted the moment he claimed ancient Indians knew about microbiology because they supposedly didn't use the same hand to eat and clean their butt (which oversimplified, given the cultural diversity of this country, and possibly anachronistic given that he seems to be projecting a custom of modern Indians onto ancient Indians, does he have any source to cite saying medieval Indians let alone people 2000 years ago were doing this). I get why actual academics in the relevant subject almost never do public debates with these types, it's terrible for blood pressure and almost always a spectacle where you'd have to calmly explain them about their misconceptions only for them to still remain utterly unconvinced accusing you of stuff like being close minded or biased, not realising their claims are not even on the same plane as that of current science on the subject to give open minded consideration to, you don't change the opinion of the opposing debator, in the end you have to play to the gallery to sway the public watching in hope that some of them do change their views, and most academics don't tend to be charismatic orators. Actual scientific debate happens in journals and letters, not podcasts or public debates.
i'm not even a bio student but that was pissing me off. i ended up just clicking off the video because i didn't want to watch him claim such nonsense. in addition to projecting a modern custom onto ancient indians, he's also projecting germ theory along with it which just doesn't track. ancient people around the world did plenty of hygiene practices but that doesn't mean they knew what germs were. maybe people just like being clean....
Ancient Indian history is not his expertis, but his point was that their ancient Indians had some sort of Proto medical knowledge. Yes he may have conveyed it poorly but if he was given more information he would update himself
@@AbhiN_1289 the point is you don't make confident claims far outside your expertise, nor do you jump to extraordinary conclusions without proper evidence just because it might support your larger narrative, even though it's contradictory (germ theory vs humoralism is the spherical earth vs flat earth of medicine). Considering the big impact yoga, meditation and spiritualism (usually alternative medicine adjacent ideas but not necessarily) has had on him in his personal life going by his wikipedia page, and his being part of 2 journals for ayurveda and alternative medcine, and 2 organisations researching the same, I think at best he has built up mental defenses preventing him from recognising inconvenient facts or at worst has a vested interest to doggedly defend his beliefs.
@@thelakeman2538 But in the full interview Dr. K makes explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda. He says that like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. For some reason Pranav has left that part out conveniently. If you watch the interview, Dr. K's claim was that modern medicine can learn something from that 1% of Ayurveda that is not garbage. Remeber that he graduated from Tufts Medicine, so he actually knows the value of western medicine. I have seen Dr. K's channel. What he does is try to blend the values he learned during his time focusing of spirituality with his medical knowledge to offer a new prespective. He is no advocate for alternative medicine by any means. My guess is that Dr. K is much more explorative and relaxed than most doctors.
Bro ,this guy didn't see the whole podcast of the discussion and point out the one part of the conversation. Dr k was not completely supporting the ayurveda. See the whole podcast. And by the way most of the research of ayurveda was burnt in Nalanda and taskhila university. This guy is biased and just want to create content for his channel.
exactly he conveniently didn't show the part where Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. the part that this guy chose to not show.
I agree with u but the point is why are we not building back our knowledge of ayurveda with concrete evidences now. Why keep wasting our time with what's better instead of proving through evidences like modern medicine has been doing. Look I m a researcher (agriculture) nd people have scepticism towards what I m doing (mostly due to pseudoscience) but if I m doing it then I have the responsibility to show that what product I m giving to this community is effective and won't come in harms way to anyone and anything with evidence (regardless of how we have been doing genetic breeding and creating hybrids anciently).
@@samridhimehta1280 Watch the whole discussion. Dr.K is saying exactly that. He is saying rather than outright rejecting and tabooing it as pseudoscience, it should be tested. There are lots of ideas that can bring improvement to modern medicine.
I believe that the people here including Pranav seem to have largely misunderstood Dr. K's stance. He never supports Ayurveda or its use as it is blindly used in India. His stance in the podcast is of a person advocating research into some of the interesting ideas of eastern medicine. I think he did not support his statements well enough in certain cases because he knows most of it has no evidence. Several times in the podcast he does mention that he does not support Ayurveda and points out the issues with it as well. The entire podcast is "Debating the value of Eastern Medicine". The important thing to note is it says "value" not advocating the use of eastern medicine. Dr. K finds certain aspects of Ayurvedic medicine interesting and advocates the research of these aspects to further our understanding of medicine. It is important to note that the practitioners did not have a lot of ethical barriers that exist today and were able to do things (dissections, administration of various medicines etc) we cannot currently and the effects have been recorded albeit not in detail or in a quantitative manner. As someone who has done research (not medical) I understand the curiosity (not claiming authority). The thing I got from the podcast is that we should not dismiss every idea from Ayurveda as some of it can be useful (once the idea is tested using modern methods and produces sufficient quantitative evidence) but also approach the idea from the perspective of a skeptic. The research should be to take a promising idea and try to disprove it.
Still, he himself said that he has rose-tinted vision towards eastern medicine, and he also falsely made conclusions about ancient medicines having the knowledge of things such as microbiology
Once something there is tested scientifically and found sufficient evidence to be useful , then it becomes… Evidence based scientific medicine.. ie modern medicine.
yes,Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. the part that pranav conviniently decided to not show.
I've watched the whole podcast, it is unfair to your viewers that you show clipped videos of the podcast. They discussed why Indians use left hand to wash and right to eat. They provide reasoning. M not trying to advocate for Ayurveda.
I want everyone to watch that entire podcast which runs into around 2 hours. The fact of the matter is that Dr. K (as many people here are suggesting without watching the podcast) never said that Ayurveda is better or can replace modern medicine. What Dr. K is saying is that just because of some quacks or questionable claims, people should not entirely dismiss an entire system of medicine which often has helped millions of people survive and treat problems for thousands of years. He himself acknowledges and gives examples where Ayurveda is completely wrong, for example the use of heavy metals. But he also gives an example of mindfulness and 9ther forms of meditations which were entirely rejected by science in the early 40s and 50s as quackery. It was only after the invention of MRI and brain scanning technology that it was scientifically proven that meditation does help. His core argument is that Ayurveda should not be rejected outright, but should be used to complement modern medicine by tailoring according to the needs of the patient.
yes , pranav very conveniently didn't added the part where Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. since he was making a video on it he could have added that
i watched the full video. dr k isn't trying push his beliefs to us. He's just saying that we can take something good from ayurveda foundations. everything that he is doing with his patients is science based and he is telling eveything to the patient and ofcourse with consent of the patient. what i liked about dr k is that he would like to take an individual approach and put it into population, and maybe it will be complementary to RCTs. what if all doctors are like that??? doctors with a heart, doctors who will examine and study you individually and not just prescribed you a medicine and you're done for the day
I think Doctor Mike pretty much dismantled every argument from Dr.K's side. Yet there are no comments on the original video about it. This is only because how popular Dr.K is and how likable he has been. Even I liked him a lot and have watched a lot of his videos, but I don't think I'll ever watch any of his videos again. Because I don't want any pseudoscientific mental advice. He just lost a lot of trust. p.s. He has mentioned meditation (which is scientifically proven to work) a few times before. He has even mentioned ayurveda before I believe, but I used to ignore those in favor of him because of how much I liked him.
that's exactly what happened with me too! i found out about Dr. K through Dr. Mike himself a few months ago and have watched many of his videos since then, but after sitting through that whole podcast, i lost all trust in him and my respect for Mike sky rocketed... i hope people are open minded enough to be critical towards their own biases and likings.
do you know/watch any other content creators who covers mental health as extensively as dr k, if yes then can you pls recommend them to me? dr k is the only such creator that i watch and would really like to expand that list
@@athhrvvv Studying and learning about philosophy, morals and ethics have personally helped me deal with mental issues. I watch Alex O'Connor for that content. Alex himself would highly disagree with me suggesting philosophy in place of therapy, but I believe its fine. Also, Contrapoints and PhilosophyTube are amazing channels which sometimes cover emotions and mental health.
I wonder how come alternative medicine degree functioning by the aproval of Indian Govt! What Change/development does this bring to our country in this modern medicine Era by pursuing those alternative med degrees. I still suprise why no one brought this matter to Courts.
They made a complete ministry for these things!! Anyone who raises their voice against ayurveda, will probably receive threats to their life from all across India.
You make a good point about the original use of the term "allopathy". Maybe a better term for that would be "Traditional European Medicine" lol. It is interesting because in the USA, chiropractic has somewhat of a privileged position (government liscencing of practitioners, etc). This is from what I understand in part because despite being a psudoscince, the early chiropractors did have a bit of a more scientific outlook on medicine than some of the prevailing quack doctors of that era in the united states. To this day chiropractic is somewhat integrated into our medical system and there is a divide in the field between more "evidence based" chiropractors and ones who are fully on the side of their traditional vitalist views (who often also spread nonsense about vaccines etc)
A much needed video even tho I enjoy Dr Ks twitch streams but his views on ayurveda is something that I don't agree upon. Good Job Pranav, as always Science is MicroStrategy. I meant Dope.
please watch the whole thing before judging him , Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine.
@@blessed6477 Please share some relevant time stamp when Dr.K says this. I have been a big fan of his work for a long time and I would love to keep watching him if he actually doesn't believe in such pseudoscientific things.
@@kamra702 again, just watch the whole thing. It's nobody's responsibility to cater to your broken attention span by spoonfeeding you timestamps. Watch the whole debate before jumping to conclusions lol
@reginaldpooftah4525 lol. The guy got a reply to one of his previous comments with timestamps, too. Haters will hate anyway. Dr.K isn't arguing for ayurveda to be accepted in entiretly but for it to be considered as a source of some value. Even penicillin was a discovery by modern medicine from ancient tribal medicine. Modern medicine is the way forward but much can be gleaned from other sources too.
An ayurveda student here and love such debates! Would have loved to have a say in the debate because I have an extremely good understanding of what's happening now in the industry but am sceptical about it myself!!
@@nvytebhygtvbvtyebr because all things considered it is a science that has survived 5000 yrs and not without its merits like it has kept quite a lot of people alive throughout that time. It has quite a lot of "mysticism" due to a lot of associations with a religion but underlying all of it is some solid science.
Hi pranav, another youtube channel called "Institute of Human anatomy" was hacked a few weeks ago. I think the people who were behind the hacking of that channel are also responsible for your channel's hacking. I remember, the hackers changed the channel name to MicroStrategy as well. The hackers are probably some bitcoin dealers
lmao the fish and milk thing was something i just had an argument with my mom about. i drink usually 2-3 cups of milk every day, because i drink instant coffee (cheap) in milk and i've also been eating a lot of fish because i just found this sushi place near my place that's pretty affordable and i keep craving fish. and she's talking about how eating milk and fish together will like make you sick or something and i kept linking her studies that said it didnt and she didn't care until i told her i've been doing this for about 5-6 months now and i'm completely fine. she got her bachelor's in biology. it's insane to me how even people who have literally studied science before can be completely opposed to the scientific process. i know it's hard for people to change their minds based on evidence but i realized that's what you should be doing when i was in like high school and i've been trying to get better at it since. i wonder what stops people from adopting this thought process
Well the fish and milk thing does not work for me. It may work for you because you have strong digestive system or because you are not sensitive enough to feel any uneasiness in the body due to the food. Now you are asking why people are asking why people are not using science. Well science allows only verified and proven results to be discussed. Now no ody has researched on food combination so far because they don't have theories around it or may be they don't have equipments or systems that can measure the effect. That doesn't mean it proves that ' food combination doesn't not matter'. It simply means its not tested. This is the typical bias of so called scientific thinkers that what's not proven is proven not to exist.
I'm sorry but here we are talking about health and medicine not Burger King or McDonald's, you cannot be open minded with health and medicine, it's your life we are talking about, so always be super critical with any alternative medicines which does not have any clinical data, evidence, or research, and just purely based on opinions, your life is the most valuable thing, so value it thank you. "your life matters" 🙏
I have been waiting for this for at least 1 1/2 year…. Ever since I started watching Dr K and how he used to infuse Ayurveda and meditation in his regular conversation about mental health of modern times.. I used to feel unheard… also because his bias on Ayurveda were not something that he was aware of.. he just took it as for granted.. but only examined through this podcast with Dr Mike and it couldn’t have been anyone better… therefore, as soon as I saw this podcast in my feed I sent it to Pranav bhai even before watching myself.. then I watched it over two days… and I’m really happy that Pranav gave this so much time and attention . Thank you for adding to this conversation! I hope you get your channel name back
From the use of left and right hands statement said by DR K i can assume that he just wants to be proud his Indian heritage like all of us ,i am not saying its bad or anything after being colonised by western power for more than 200 yrs and getting degraded as a low class people but he can at least be more logical and unbiased about medicine Also you are the only channel that is unbiased today
please watch the whole thing before judging him , Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. the part that this guy chose to not show.
I REALLY wanted you to react on this podcast. It was the first thought that came to my mind after watching it. For me this was a classic example of “Don’t believe/support everything that someone says just because you like other stuff that he has said”. I have really liked Dr. K ever since I first saw him. Heck I purchased the Dr. K guide to mental health, with my first pay cheque. But this podcast really put me off. I really respected Dr. Mike’s scepticism and he got me to subscribe after this. This is not to say that I won’t be watching Dr. K anymore. He still is in my opinion a pretty good resource for mental health. While I would not stand for Ayurveda over Allopathy in almost all spheres, I feel his blend of eastern and western thought just fits in my world view of mental health. Also like how Dr. K is atleast sceptic about some of Ayurveda and his beliefs don’t come in the way of his practice. He is practical about it, it seems. If anything the podcast has made me a little more mature about who to believe and how much to believe. (PS: It is not necessary to go all in, one can discern what to take up, ofcourse it should not b e self contradictory and hypocritical) PPS: The last time I had such a realisation was when I grew out of my Devdutt Pattanaik phase.
I don't think Dr K is advising anyone to prefer ayurveda over allopathy. He has studied allopathy himself and supports it, however his methods of blending in eastern ways has helped people a lot just like you said it. He says ayurveda needs more research but it can also be incorporated with current day medicine for the best output instead of picking one or the other.
Alternative medicine revolves around emotional, sentimental, and knee-jerk reaction and that's the most prominent thing you will observe in all people to trust and it advocate for them. The Islamic alt. medicine which include Persian, Arab and South Asian generally called Tib-i-Nabawi or Hikmat has also been influenced by Greek and Indian medicine and in South Asia gets specifically Ayurvedic in nature. It also bases itself on the Greek 5 humors theory which something Avicenna (Abu Sina) also subscribed to or supported. Needless to say the unexplored herbal component of it paired with rigorous double blind testing can be tapped into as R&D for developing modern medicines. The rest is just bunkum.
Practicing Dr.K's teachings have helped me deal with my mental health and self-image issues, dealing with grief etc... his holistic approach is what makes him unique... But even I feel like defending Ayurveda too much is not a good approach!!! Even though I like that he takes some inspiration from Indian mindfulness practices and so on... But still yeah Ayurved can't answer it all... It's approach is of prevention not cure!!!
Every society has evolved a medical tradition that tries to cure local diseases using local beliefs and locally found source material. I wish the Indian government had followed in the footsteps of the Chinese. First they archived all the traditional chinese medical textbooks. This made it easy to search for diseases and prescribed cure. Next, and most importantly, they began a systematic scientific evaluation of the medical prescription. And the last step, they tried to isolate the active ingredient of the medicine using modern methods. This was how the Chinese found a new cure for malaria, artemisinin, and they were awarded the 2015 Nobel prize for physiology. Although this prize is awarded to a specific person, we should also recognize the underlying governmental support for such research work. The study of ayurveda would have made more sense this way. If only ... The most surprising thing is that all this research was done during the chaos of Chinese cultural revolution. I would like to request Pranav to make a video about the story behind the discovery of artemisinin and how India can do something similar with their traditional medical knowledge.
They didn’t eat fish with yogurt because in the historical days because those were before food regulations so fish would have bacteria that would not sit well with the yogurt. Or vise versa. This reminds of an old wives tale that you shouldn’t drink water after eating fruit. This is because wells back then were of unclean water and having harmful bacteria that would thrive in the stomach from the fruits you just ate
Another great video! I would love to see what the pseudoscience courses teach in a future video. As someone whose has been raised in a well educated yet traditional family, it is truly sad to see my loved ones fall for such malpractices. I feel like I have absolutely no way of helping them, but your videos help me at least put forth some facts and logic which will hopefully make a difference in the future or in dire situations.
it;s not good if he won't acknowledge the part Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. the part that this guy chose to not show.
There is no real cause and effect when it comes to medicine and human illness/health. I was personally asthmatic for years, took allopathic medicines all the time - they only provide symptomatic relief but don't really cure anything. I got rid of asthma only when I took the matter out of the hands of the doctor in my own - extreme dietary control, change in mental attitude and robust physical exercise. This is what uprooted my asthma, not any prescriptive medicine. Of course fools will still believe that the body is "nothing but just a bunch of chemical reactions, all happening by their own".
Doctors also suggest lifestyle changes along with medicines. No doctor thinks body is just a bunch of chemicals..it's the public who is eating all unhealthy foods and blaming doctors
I think, India did make a contribution to medicine just like all the other cultural medicine of that time sharing and learning from each other and if they want to keep on the legacy of that contribution, they should do research on the unexplored herbal remedies and do it based on the modern lines and throw away things which have long been debunked like homeopathy, 5 humors, etc.
Brother can u talk on topic of Sushruta Rishi's surgical methods who is often referred as first cosmetic surgeon reflect on this plzz .. Ur content has been getting interesting and informative too tnx for ur efforts ❤❤❤❤
Dr. K had been providing some good and helpful strategies to deal with some mental health issues. He still does. But this is a perfect example for cases where you can not like everything someone says because something they said really touched you. He went on about reincarnation and past lives at some point. Now Ayurveda. Anyways, thanks Pranav for this video.
past lives and reincarnation is very much debated in the scientific community coz many experiments and research have been conducted , i saw and learned about them in a video of dr vikas divyakirti but can't rember now, and in those intensive research cases of incarnation was took upon and disproved but still a significant number of cases couldn't be do so, also just because somebody believes in something that is not proven or scientific doesn't make him wrong. for ref u can still watch this one- ruclips.net/user/shortsevekbUv0-k0?si=mz2I07FSglbbGgRa this clip is cut from this video of his- ruclips.net/video/pbsbauDvrw0/видео.htmlsi=xdIiNDd7WHob3BAC
For those who think dr K is biased and blind towards ayurveda, I request you to to watch the original interview yourself before making any conclusions. Dr. K never said ayurveda is more effective than western medicine.On the contrary he actually agreed with most of what Dr. Mike said(But this guy doesn't show that).He was talking about the ayurvedic approach. This guy completely the cherry picked those clips. Don't take my word check the interview out yourself. For the record I am not a pro ayurvedic person and I actually appreciate most of the videos of this channel. But this time the man of science himself is biased.
I don't think you actually viewed the whole video pranav mentioned to go and watch the original video and he also mentioned how this debate is must watch He also used this debate to provide his stance on the conversation and his view on ayurvedic medicine It is not cherry picking it is called putting up a opinion
@@sai_neko_reddyYou do understand that people putting an opinion do just that and cherry pick to fit a narrative. He could have easily said that Dr K agrees with Western Medicine and doesn't think Ayurveda is this crazy thing that is better than allopathy but he didn't and he made Dr K look bad. He should've done better.
@@aaron827 i agree with you on that point that he showed a lot of bias but I am also acknowledging the fact that he mentioned like 3-4 times to actually watch the original pod cast and if I am not misremembering he also mentioned Dr k's beliefs are not 100% pro ayurveda something like that
@@aaron827 i actually did watched the whole pod cast though it was a fun and educational watch , dr Mike is good like really good cause he made so many good points that dr k couldn't even answer a lot of them
yes this guy is biased he didn't acknowledged the part where Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. the part that this guy chose to not show. i mean wouldn't it actually helps pranav to prove his point?
It was there in the video itself since his channel was hacked and the name was changed into micro strategy so it will take some time to change his channels name back to original
i felt intelligent when i heard sadhguru, jordon peterson and Dr.K. Now I am feeling intelligent again watching 'science is dope'. Back then, I felt I was differentiating myself from the pack by way of gaining information that others dont process and left critical thinking at the door. Now I realised that I was just another privileged right wing thinker, false mystic and women hater who likes to talk. The only thing that hasn't changed is me coming to RUclips every day and spending 6 hrs per day being a couch potato.
If a famous RUclipsr like Pranav can continue creating content despite being hacked, then why can't I push through my own challenges and make progress in my life?
I once had some discussion bout NIMHANS with my psychiatry professor, I remember that he mentioned the then (2019ish) director of NIMHANS Dr B N Gangadhar was cuckoo bout yoga and how he pressurized his research scholars and post graduate students to pursue research in yoga, they didn't get a say in it. It was his way or the highway.
You reduce the population of India irrespective of caste or religion...all the crap will go in all sectors sector.Govt is mum , because people are making lively wood out of.Govt not able to feed so many....people are creating crap out of everything.
Hey, why do the color grading of your portions keep changing? Is it coz of taking footage from two cameras or accidentally disabling an adjustment layer in your editing tool?
Tbh, after I watched Dr. Mike and Dr. K my impression was, that Dr. K just argued for more research to be done on Ayurveda. Not that he favors Ayurveda to Western Medicine. He explicitly says the problem of Eastern Medicine is that it's not critically checked / studied. He also said that he regularily warns western practicioners of Ayurveda about the problems of Ayurveda. I think Dr. K is pushed into "defending" (rather explaining some interesting things about) Ayurveda because he argues: there might be something to Ayurveda. Let's please check it with scientific studies and not just throw it away because there aren't good studies yet.
Dear Sir, I am a little learner in class 12th...... In one of your videos, you said Hinduism is Bullsh.t like other religions. Religions like Hinduism and those practiced in early Egypt are not mere custom and traditions but are often associated with philosophy. So indirectly you called all those bullish.t. From Charwak[do not believe in the idea of god] to Advaita Vedanta [non-duality]. I think you must do some study of these. Even the atheist movement which was initiated 3000 years ago is part of this.
Don't worry he will not read. He is agenda oriented content creator. He has his own agenda. Do you think he doesn't know and looking for rational evidence. He is Pretending Rational Thinker.
The 2-3 cases a month in Dr. Lavekar’s clinic is definitely an understatement. Many patients do not disclose past use of Ayurveda/homeopathy as they think that the doctors are biased towards alternate medicine (as many are vocally against using them). I know this from firsthand experience where my parents did not disclose their past use of ayurvedic medicines when suffering from liver injury and just left it to the physician to treat them despite it. They staunchly believe that doctors discourage use of Ayurveda as they see it as competition (facepalm, I know). This is despite us showing them enough scientific evidence & ethical issues with Ayurveda.. they’re just brainwashed, I feel
Watch the whole podcast. Dr.K is a licensed doctor from Harvard. This was him not trying to defend Ayurveda but only show that it had some benefit to it. In the podcast, he does say that 90% of Ayurveda is garbage.
Students should study science and answer science question in an entrance exam to enroll in a pseudoscience course... This is ridiculous👿👎 i dono how science student get into these fallacy...
RCT is very good at eliminating bias factor. Ayurveda stipulates that bias in inherent to treatment. In practice (from what i saw in this vid and the podcast) ayurveda does try to extrapolate with the theory of dosh and such. So why dont we do a RCT by eliminating all bias except the one the treatment claims(I know there may be very specific conditions, but I am talking about the treatments claimed to be a bit general). So lets say a treatment T1 works for disease D1 on people with dosh A, then we can test these combos No T1 no D1 on Mix Dosh No T1 on D1 on Mix Dosh T1 on no D1 Mix Dosh T1 on D1 on Mix Dosh T1 on D1 on Dosh A T1 on no D1 on Dosh A No T1 on D1 on Dosh A No T1 on no D1 on Dosh A I mean normally RCTs already test with a bias of having the dieseas no? Why not add one more to it. Ofc the no. of groups required will grow exponentially with respect to the no. of biases factored. But I think adding 2-3 biases could still be feasible. Ofc for this to produce accurate results, we need unbiased researchers, so in that fact, even I won't trust Ayush's research on this.
This guy smartly critzised doctor K unlike how he does to other people like Sadguru because he knows the fuck he is compared to doctor K … as usual this guy has a propaganda .. jus shows clips and exactly what he wants people to hear and get manipulated. Do not fall for anyone if you seek the truth search by urself and please watch the whole video and not this clowns interpretation
True. When the other person somewhat having credentials he choose defensive way but still try to infuse denial in a more subtle way pretending as if polite. He is certainly agenda oriented. His rational thinking bolis down to simply debunking saying no peer reviews. He is not looking for evidences instead ready to deny anything. Purely Agenda oriented .
The human population is around 8 billion. If we were to have individual medicine for each person, we would need around 8 billion types of medicines just for one disease. What?
I love all the 3 people in the video! And Yes this episode in the podcast is just awesome, respect and healthy discussion in disagreements, with honesty, skepticism! Loved it!
I love watching long form video even tho I can see the fellow subscribers are not happy with it insights are showing that anyways I support long form content and this video was great
There are many claims that drinking water from plastic bottles is harmful and even causes cancer. But I'm confuse about this. Can u plz make a detailed video about this topic. I think it'd really help a lot of people.
that's truetue tho , microplastic have started entering human blood , recentle a new born baby was born with microplastic in blood , the expiry date on water bottle is of the bottle plastic and not of water , it's the date of at what time it will start mixing within the water if sealed , unsealed water bottle plastic don't last more than 2-3 days
@@franklin_johnson01 A physics professor can have a opinion that milton is better than Shakespeare and it is fine but when a doctor who has studied modern medicine takes about ayurvedic medicine like this you should question his competence. The guy literally equated left hand and right hand rule to understanding of germs. I dont know if he is branding himself as a doctor who approves ayurveda with a medical degree from harvard. He seem to be fishing for indian audience which believes this crap.
@@LaziestHQ you know nothing about him if you think he will use understanding of ayurvedic medicine while treating his patients. And rest of your doesn't make sense. People on this channel are so predictable and irrational. His videos on men's mental health and mental health in general helped me and a lot of people.
@@franklin_johnson01 Read about nobel prize syndrome and also if a person has been trained in scientific method he will recognise how idiotic ayurveda , homeopathy and unani medicine is in terms of leaps of logic. You can also find good stuff on psychology from Jordan Peterson but that doesn't mean he is a white supremacist nut. Same with this guy streaming on twitch and talking about gaming addiction and even suicide. His professional opinion is valued due to his actions and relevant education but he ignores scientific method and talk about there is hidden science. Modern medicine is the best way of treatment and promoting ayurveda is harmful.
I LOVE AYURVEDA and Tibetan medicine 💊 as a woman because unfortunately, women get MISDIAGNOSED A LOT by medicine doctors everywhere in the world. My mother got HIGH BP and the doctor recommended her the BP medicine (the smallest one was no more available in the market. I guess they want people to be addicted to it). She told the doctor, she can manage the BP and if possible, she wouldn't like to eat the whole medicine. The doctor said, she can start by eating half. A very nice tibetan doctor she used to go to (for physiotherapy) asked her if she was eating any medications. She said yes and then he checked her BP. IT WAS VERY LOW. He said "you don't need it". He didn't insist that she defy the doctor but simply asked her to eat it after her next appointment with him. Everytime he checked, her BP was low. He recommended that she give up the medicine and changed her diet. IT WORKED! MY MOTHER DOES NOT TAKE MEDS and she is very healthy. Also, my father's gastrointestinal issues got a lot better after his meds. PS : I DO HATE LALA RAMDEV...AND PEOPLE LIKE HIM
From your anecdote, isnt the issue a problem of poor medical care standards rather than the medicine itself. You mentioned your mother was misdiagnosed and was prescribed unnecessary medications. She recovered when the unnecessary medications were removed. How can you attribute her health to an alternative medicine. How do you even know whether it even works for everyone.
@@antojosefernandez Most doctors would prescribe the same medicine because my mother did have high bp. What they wouldn't do...is HELP HER MANAGE THE ROOT OF THE ISSUE instead of dealing with the aftermath. They just don't know what to do with a patient who has always had low BP her entire life and now has HIGH BP problems. Most doctors would prescribe the same medicine and it wouldn't be considered "malpractice". What really helped her manage anxiety and BP... and take it out from its root was not medicine but yoga (80%) and going to the tibetan doctor (20%). Now, I have soo many doctors in my extended family ranging from cancer specialists to eye doctor to dentists... I ain't going to alternative medicine if I get cancer.. But even if 10% of people are helped like my mother, its a large number of people. Another example is my mummy giving me ajwain and one other thing (I don't know its name) for period pains. I get mild period pains and the doctors tell you that YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE PAIN KILLERS for that. There's not much medicine can do here. Now, it irritated me for 13 years of life and reduced my ability to do daily tasks until I tried this basic ayurvedic or home remedy reluctantly (me, being the educated person just wouldn't take it). It worked for my period pains and mom said ...just like the doctor "talking to you is like talking to a person who doesn't have an open mind". Now, many people get period pains and severe period pains are unlikely to be solved like that but if it can make life better for even 10%... There are absolutely zero side effects of it. The point is...medicine vs ayurveda isn't a war. This isn't about choosing sides. We should keep an open mind.
The reason doctors won't recommend pain killers for mild periods pains is because it can have side effects over time which can range from normal gastrointestinal to very severe ones. But having it sometimes won't be that bad. @@valley-girl every body reacts differently. Besides, pain killers addiction is a serious problem in many countries.
If you don't mind can you share more details. What medicine was prescribed for bp. What is "HIGH BP" and after going to the Tibetan doctor how low was the bp. Weekday is her age. What is her current bp.
As a follower of Dr. Mike for a long time, I actually felt Dr Mike was very hostile during the whole interview. Meanwhile Dr.K maintained his cool and tried to find a common ground and kept trying to understand why Mike was being so. And it was Dr.Mike who kept on steering the discussion in that direction. He could have easily changed the topic at any of the common grounds Dr K was offering. But instead he showed his biased views towards non-allopathic medical system (The irony being he himself is a osteopathic medicine practitioner)
Why dont we just clnically trials ayurvedic medicine, i dont understand this Himalayan Liv52 is very effective many allopathic doctors are prescribed that medicine worldwide, we need data research on ayurveda, i am against both ideologies who said ayurveda is everything and dont take modern medicine and also who.directly oppose ayurveda.
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Bro please interview acharya prashant ( dont make video on him, only interview will be the best way to know his views about conciousness and existence, dont worry , he is not some pseudoscience teacher , he talks about pure inquiry , i want u to have interview with him because u would ask some good questions which will help me 🙏🙏 please.....)
You are a fool, Pranav. Why should anyone pay you for being one?
But channel name still 'Micro Strategy' ?!🤔
@@jprakash7245 Did he get hacked or something?
Hey pranav ,
Dhruv Rathee had recently uploaded a video on "aurangzeb vs shivaji" . And during sponser of the video at 1:28s he was promoting pseudo science like water memory. Please do take action on this pranav.
Atleast some Indian origin doctor in the US is critical about Ayurveda. The general public must be made aware of thr the dangers of alternative medicine.
Every dr I know, regardless of origin, is bearish on alternative medicine but to avoid conflict and potential lawsuits they don't say it out loud.
@@CripplingDualitycompletely agree with you , even if not lawsuit in india you just get a lot of hate or backlash citing he is talking aginst our culture and over nation thankfully this problem is not much in the tier 1 2 cities but in the villages and small towns problem still exist
He’s not critical of it, he’s biased towards it. If it wasn’t for Mike questioning him, he wouldn’t have thought twice about the pseudoscience he’s propagating… he does a lot of this on almost all of his videos.
@@user-it2sk8rb9z yes of course even other faiths have a lot of bs going on. When it comes to science and religion it can never peacefully co-exist. Reason being, one seeks truth with evidence and logic and one dictates potential truth without questioning the lack of evidence and logic because it heavily relies on "faith". The definition of both is literally the opposite and applies to other religions as well!
@@user-it2sk8rb9z I think the reason he addresses misinformation spread by Hindus is because he was personally affected by it, coming from a Hindu family and wants to educate others to inform them about the the different types of pseudoscientific misinformation being spread in the country, and also because he’s Indian and the Hindu narrative is dominant here. He’s also called out flat earthers, and the irrationality of religion in general too. He’s gotten many hate comments and possibly even threats from insecure Hindus who don’t want their religion scrutinised.
Just yesterday I was watching that debate and was wondering how good it would be if only Pranav makes a response to it.
God truly exists I would say.
Love the irony in this comment!
i was thinking of the saaaamme thing
I just knew sid will surely make a video on this topic when I was watching dr mike's video
Actually.....😂
How do these miracles happen? God only knows , 😂
17:32 confirms it XDD
Dr. K's defense of ayurveda in that podcast was the most impressive defense I have ever heard. It was eloquent, sophisticated, and sounded legitimate because he is credentialed medical practitioner of Indian origin.
Also that podcast was the most nuanced discussion on the topic where no one was trying to win.
If it wasn't for Dr. Mike's ability to think on his feet and challenge Dr. K, that podcast could have pushed so many English speaking educated people to feel more validated in using ayurveda.
Having said that, Dr. K many times clarifed that he isn't defender of the practice and agrees on ayurveda having major flaws. Only because Dr. Mike was taking a strong stand on one side, Dr. K had to take a stronger stand on the other side just for the sake of having a healthy discussion. Dr. K was eloquently presenting the arguments on behalf of the ayurvedic community, not necessarily believing in them himself fully. Being devils advocate.
I think Dr k have biases which he can only claim and trying to project but cause of skepticism of Dr Mike he unable to do it
Why are you verified????
So I need to take side on fake things like flat earthers, anti vaccine stuff to have an healthy debate? Dr.K argument is just for the healthy conversation and not about the correct thing. The correct thing is ayurveda is a pseudoscience. Involve more people like chemist, biologists etc and they will tell you you don't need ayurveda or any other system to tell current science about drug development. It's too advance and too complex that it's very far away from the line of thinking of the people who studied ayurveda.
@@FreaKaYu i think he put the verified mark himself in his name
@@whoiam9124 No its not. I am on a computer and when I keep my cursor on the tick, it says 'Verified'.
To be honest, I am personally done with discussions on Ayurveda and Homeopathy. It is like trying find a common ground between a globe and a flat earth. There is no common ground. Sometimes one is true, the other is not.
Reality is many of people who claim to be a ayurvedic doctor or give advice on ayurveda didn't know that there is a ayurved book , they just put some herbs and says it's ayurvedic
@@AtheistIndian2024 Yeah. Wonder how many of them know about Charak Saṁhita
did you even listen to the whole interview? or just the negative parts about Ayurveda lol
Brilliant analysis! Unbiased and factual. So grateful for your work, Pranav.
Thank you!
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RUclips is so high lmao
How tf is this comment 4 hour ago 😂
Dude, how is that possible, video was uploaded 5 hr ago and your comment was uploaded 8 hr ago
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The whole debate about Ayurveda VS modern medicine is unnecessary. If you zoom out on the timeline you can see that Ayurveda is what we had during the olden days. We didn't know about Germ theory, the immune system, and many more things during that time. Science or whatever you call it is not that developed and they did their best with whatever understanding they had during those times. With time our understanding of the human body improved, and related science also improved. Ideally, we should all move to a more advanced understanding that is Modern medicine. Ayurveda people had very good intentions and they tried their best to understand the human body and no hate to Ayurveda or our old rishi munis. I am sure if those great names from Ayurveda were alive today, they would tell people to switch to Modern medicine. The problem is that Ayurveda becomes a part of culture and our ego and identity and when people are running high on emotion they cannot think rationally. I can proudly say that we had Ayurveda, just like I can proudly say that our king used to have great swords, great weapons, and great armor, but all of them are now in the Museum with full respect and I am grateful for that and it's a great part of our history. Just because those weapons are part of our culture, tradition, and history doesn't mean that we will still use them! Do we want our soldiers to use swords on border patrol? Of course not because we have better weapons, we have efficient weapons. Similarly, Ayurveda has a place in history now. We should keep our Ego, and identity aside because it's a matter of people's life.
So the best thing would be to keep Ayurveda in history textbooks and must not use them.
Because If it would remain in use scams like coronil will never stop.
@@prodigious5766 Agree!
Diet Lifestyle is a proposal for Ayurveda. If the great names were alive today they would use Modern Technology with Ayurveda Diet Lifestyle. Even today for disease like Diabetes, diet lifestyle is a solution and not specific Tablets/Pills.
Also, Ayurvedic Pills are a scam.
@@prodigious5766 we must view them as outdated info that was once followed while acknowledging the wonders of modern medical science and relying on it instead
Dr K said that they had separate hands for washing and eating, so did they cook food with one hand only too?
Lmao
Gottem
most germs are killed in cooking , and a far less issue , this does not mean i agree with the hand example used by doctor k but just that your example doesnt hold
@@Killa_3 How is it a valid point?
@@Killa_3 Well what about the non heated dishes
So grateful for your channel, Pranav! I'm a white American who married into an Indian family, and I started to learn of all these things from my in-laws through WhatsApp content they send (lol). I didn't buy into the pseudoscientific stuff but wasn't sure where to find resources into debunking it. Your channel has been great for giving me a more unbiased and objective look into all of these ideas.
(Don’t) Send this to them and they’ll call it biased
WhatsApp and Indian uncles and aunties is altogether a whole new world. Good luck to you dealing with it because it sometimes can get to very frustratingly foolish levels.
Indian society as general is a pseudoscietific factory.
@@avneel hope yk daddy dhruv rathee also has whatsapp university which put up info with no sources or biased sources, brown sepoy
38:39 It's a shame that Ayush got more funding than DBT (Department of Biotechnology) which covers many of the life sciences in that financial year, clearly they had their priorities set. Ofc evidence based medicine will be unaffordable for the poor and some diseases will remain neglected when private industry (whether Indian or foreign) funds much of the R&D and maintains a monopoly through patents but that's a separate issue.
osteopathy is also pseudoscience according to Wikipedia and Dr Mike has DO degrees not MD
But US has legitimised it and those docs are also allowed to write modern medicine and India will do the same with ayurveda in the coming years
I watched that interview and I couldnt put my finger on what exactly didnt sit right with me, and them your video came out 🙏
Thanks for clarifying the channel name reason, I was confused and trying to understand the logic and relation of it with debunking pseudoscience. 😅
Say what you want, due to a soft tissue damage my orthopaedic doctor wanted to conduct surgery, instead I went for a12 week ayurvedic treatment and have been fine ever since. Does that mean I am going to treat everything with ayurveda No. Everything has its place.
How do you know it's fine? Did you get another diagnosis?
@@thomascromwell6840 yup and the fact that I can play football again with out any problem.
@thomascromwell6840 Bro people can feel difference in health themselves. Maybe he diagnosed too. Why do you all always have an urge to debunk something even though there is nothing to debunk? Ayurveda has broken ways of diagnosis and all...but some of the treatments tho? They are damn effective compared to modern medical science. I, myself knows a lot of people, just in my family who benefited from Ayurveda.
@gouthamkrishna7574 if u actually watched the full video , he mentioned at start that people are gonna quote anecdotal evidence and you are doing the same
It may have worked for you good but it might be the same for any other person to whom you are gonna recommend ayurveda in future and it will lead to worsening of their condition
That's why standards are important and debunking is needed for unproven medicinal practices which ayurveda have
Once all the bad parts are debunked and removed the good parts can help people and improve quality of living
And he also mentioned many bad things that are happening because of these ayurvedic medicine
@@gouthamkrishna7574 How can you diagnose yourself without having medicine training? How you know it's not placebo?
Nothing to debunk? Pseudoscience has always been debunked.
My fufa had similar feeling when he went to Sudarshanam Ayurveda Eye Hospital for his degenerative eye treatment and his condition became worse. He even got an opinion in AIIMS Delhi and they recommend injection which did improve his condition but he didn't want to be on injections.
One of The typical differences between Western thinking and Eastern thinking - cause and effect is the way they approach life, and we are still stuck with Vishwa guru propaganda (not sure if this is arrogance or ignorance or superiority complex out of inferiority complex)- debate over for me on such particular topic - great job, Pranav
Very generalized don't you think?
@@LivingStories-fd5gc apt for this episode and most contexts. Yes, I agree that it is a little bit generalized, but it is what I see predominantly.
@@LivingStories-fd5gche also live in India. 😅 read between the lines.
@@kingflockthewarrior202 You can take an Indian out of India, However, you can never take India out of him - so Yeah, I still live in India in that angle and, jokes apart -Yes I used to live in India and worked as an Assistant professor in Radiology in Government Hospital, but that was history - I still teach in Government hospitals in India, but now I teach as an International faculty, that is love for teaching and science. I also started a RUclips channel in Telugu to educate people on science, you are right I still live and love India.
@@kmadthlogger-rk5mwSuperiority complex out of inferiority complex 😂😂😂 Exact description for Andhbhakts.
Dr Mike seems to be remarkably patient and calm in offering his skepticism. I doubt I could keep my calm if I were in his place, I could feel my rage build up with the ill-informed claims he was making, as a student of microbiology I'd have erupted the moment he claimed ancient Indians knew about microbiology because they supposedly didn't use the same hand to eat and clean their butt (which oversimplified, given the cultural diversity of this country, and possibly anachronistic given that he seems to be projecting a custom of modern Indians onto ancient Indians, does he have any source to cite saying medieval Indians let alone people 2000 years ago were doing this). I get why actual academics in the relevant subject almost never do public debates with these types, it's terrible for blood pressure and almost always a spectacle where you'd have to calmly explain them about their misconceptions only for them to still remain utterly unconvinced accusing you of stuff like being close minded or biased, not realising their claims are not even on the same plane as that of current science on the subject to give open minded consideration to, you don't change the opinion of the opposing debator, in the end you have to play to the gallery to sway the public watching in hope that some of them do change their views, and most academics don't tend to be charismatic orators. Actual scientific debate happens in journals and letters, not podcasts or public debates.
i'm not even a bio student but that was pissing me off. i ended up just clicking off the video because i didn't want to watch him claim such nonsense. in addition to projecting a modern custom onto ancient indians, he's also projecting germ theory along with it which just doesn't track. ancient people around the world did plenty of hygiene practices but that doesn't mean they knew what germs were. maybe people just like being clean....
Ancient Indian history is not his expertis, but his point was that their ancient Indians had some sort of Proto medical knowledge. Yes he may have conveyed it poorly but if he was given more information he would update himself
@@AbhiN_1289 the point is you don't make confident claims far outside your expertise, nor do you jump to extraordinary conclusions without proper evidence just because it might support your larger narrative, even though it's contradictory (germ theory vs humoralism is the spherical earth vs flat earth of medicine). Considering the big impact yoga, meditation and spiritualism (usually alternative medicine adjacent ideas but not necessarily) has had on him in his personal life going by his wikipedia page, and his being part of 2 journals for ayurveda and alternative medcine, and 2 organisations researching the same, I think at best he has built up mental defenses preventing him from recognising inconvenient facts or at worst has a vested interest to doggedly defend his beliefs.
@@thelakeman2538 But in the full interview Dr. K makes explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda. He says that like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine.
For some reason Pranav has left that part out conveniently.
If you watch the interview, Dr. K's claim was that modern medicine can learn something from that 1% of Ayurveda that is not garbage.
Remeber that he graduated from Tufts Medicine, so he actually knows the value of western medicine. I have seen Dr. K's channel. What he does is try to blend the values he learned during his time focusing of spirituality with his medical knowledge to offer a new prespective. He is no advocate for alternative medicine by any means.
My guess is that Dr. K is much more explorative and relaxed than most doctors.
same here; can't have patience with bull shit
Bro ,this guy didn't see the whole podcast of the discussion and point out the one part of the conversation. Dr k was not completely supporting the ayurveda. See the whole podcast. And by the way most of the research of ayurveda was burnt in Nalanda and taskhila university. This guy is biased and just want to create content for his channel.
exactly he conveniently didn't show the part where Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. the part that this guy chose to not show.
There is a good possibility of loosing real ayurveda knowledge in these ancient university, i'm glad that you know these things.
I agree with u but the point is why are we not building back our knowledge of ayurveda with concrete evidences now. Why keep wasting our time with what's better instead of proving through evidences like modern medicine has been doing. Look I m a researcher (agriculture) nd people have scepticism towards what I m doing (mostly due to pseudoscience) but if I m doing it then I have the responsibility to show that what product I m giving to this community is effective and won't come in harms way to anyone and anything with evidence (regardless of how we have been doing genetic breeding and creating hybrids anciently).
I think he showed the clip as an examples
@@samridhimehta1280 Watch the whole discussion. Dr.K is saying exactly that. He is saying rather than outright rejecting and tabooing it as pseudoscience, it should be tested. There are lots of ideas that can bring improvement to modern medicine.
I believe that the people here including Pranav seem to have largely misunderstood Dr. K's stance. He never supports Ayurveda or its use as it is blindly used in India. His stance in the podcast is of a person advocating research into some of the interesting ideas of eastern medicine. I think he did not support his statements well enough in certain cases because he knows most of it has no evidence. Several times in the podcast he does mention that he does not support Ayurveda and points out the issues with it as well. The entire podcast is "Debating the value of Eastern Medicine". The important thing to note is it says "value" not advocating the use of eastern medicine. Dr. K finds certain aspects of Ayurvedic medicine interesting and advocates the research of these aspects to further our understanding of medicine. It is important to note that the practitioners did not have a lot of ethical barriers that exist today and were able to do things (dissections, administration of various medicines etc) we cannot currently and the effects have been recorded albeit not in detail or in a quantitative manner. As someone who has done research (not medical) I understand the curiosity (not claiming authority). The thing I got from the podcast is that we should not dismiss every idea from Ayurveda as some of it can be useful (once the idea is tested using modern methods and produces sufficient quantitative evidence) but also approach the idea from the perspective of a skeptic. The research should be to take a promising idea and try to disprove it.
Still, he himself said that he has rose-tinted vision towards eastern medicine, and he also falsely made conclusions about ancient medicines having the knowledge of things such as microbiology
Once something there is tested scientifically and found sufficient evidence to be useful , then it becomes… Evidence based scientific medicine.. ie modern medicine.
@@christycharles07 Does this have any relevance to what I said?
yes,Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. the part that pranav conviniently decided to not show.
@@639Rahul yes
Commenting to increase your reach ❤
PS: Forgot to add "Well deserved reach"
I've watched the whole podcast, it is unfair to your viewers that you show clipped videos of the podcast. They discussed why Indians use left hand to wash and right to eat. They provide reasoning.
M not trying to advocate for Ayurveda.
I want everyone to watch that entire podcast which runs into around 2 hours. The fact of the matter is that Dr. K (as many people here are suggesting without watching the podcast) never said that Ayurveda is better or can replace modern medicine.
What Dr. K is saying is that just because of some quacks or questionable claims, people should not entirely dismiss an entire system of medicine which often has helped millions of people survive and treat problems for thousands of years.
He himself acknowledges and gives examples where Ayurveda is completely wrong, for example the use of heavy metals. But he also gives an example of mindfulness and 9ther forms of meditations which were entirely rejected by science in the early 40s and 50s as quackery. It was only after the invention of MRI and brain scanning technology that it was scientifically proven that meditation does help.
His core argument is that Ayurveda should not be rejected outright, but should be used to complement modern medicine by tailoring according to the needs of the patient.
Yes! You are right. Many people are totally missing the point, including the interviewer.
Agree
Don't bother with them, they have the attention span of a goldfish. None of them watched the entire interview
yes , pranav very conveniently didn't added the part where Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. since he was making a video on it he could have added that
i watched the full video. dr k isn't trying push his beliefs to us. He's just saying that we can take something good from ayurveda foundations. everything that he is doing with his patients is science based and he is telling eveything to the patient and ofcourse with consent of the patient. what i liked about dr k is that he would like to take an individual approach and put it into population, and maybe it will be complementary to RCTs. what if all doctors are like that??? doctors with a heart, doctors who will examine and study you individually and not just prescribed you a medicine and you're done for the day
I think Doctor Mike pretty much dismantled every argument from Dr.K's side. Yet there are no comments on the original video about it. This is only because how popular Dr.K is and how likable he has been. Even I liked him a lot and have watched a lot of his videos, but I don't think I'll ever watch any of his videos again. Because I don't want any pseudoscientific mental advice. He just lost a lot of trust.
p.s. He has mentioned meditation (which is scientifically proven to work) a few times before. He has even mentioned ayurveda before I believe, but I used to ignore those in favor of him because of how much I liked him.
that's exactly what happened with me too! i found out about Dr. K through Dr. Mike himself a few months ago and have watched many of his videos since then, but after sitting through that whole podcast, i lost all trust in him and my respect for Mike sky rocketed... i hope people are open minded enough to be critical towards their own biases and likings.
@@anrdhx Exactly. Its really difficult to let go of your favorite creators haha.
@@kamra702 yeah
do you know/watch any other content creators who covers mental health as extensively as dr k, if yes then can you pls recommend them to me? dr k is the only such creator that i watch and would really like to expand that list
@@athhrvvv Studying and learning about philosophy, morals and ethics have personally helped me deal with mental issues. I watch Alex O'Connor for that content. Alex himself would highly disagree with me suggesting philosophy in place of therapy, but I believe its fine.
Also, Contrapoints and PhilosophyTube are amazing channels which sometimes cover emotions and mental health.
I wonder how come alternative medicine degree functioning by the aproval of Indian Govt!
What Change/development does this bring to our country in this modern medicine Era by pursuing those alternative med degrees.
I still suprise why no one brought this matter to Courts.
They made a complete ministry for these things!! Anyone who raises their voice against ayurveda, will probably receive threats to their life from all across India.
You make a good point about the original use of the term "allopathy". Maybe a better term for that would be "Traditional European Medicine" lol. It is interesting because in the USA, chiropractic has somewhat of a privileged position (government liscencing of practitioners, etc). This is from what I understand in part because despite being a psudoscince, the early chiropractors did have a bit of a more scientific outlook on medicine than some of the prevailing quack doctors of that era in the united states. To this day chiropractic is somewhat integrated into our medical system and there is a divide in the field between more "evidence based" chiropractors and ones who are fully on the side of their traditional vitalist views (who often also spread nonsense about vaccines etc)
A much needed video even tho I enjoy Dr Ks twitch streams but his views on ayurveda is something that I don't agree upon. Good Job Pranav, as always Science is MicroStrategy. I meant Dope.
Man so glad you got your channel back
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" has been replaced with Carl Sagan in the background. Subtle, but effective!
I want Dr.K to react to this on stream. So that his audience can see how stupid even Professional Medicine Practitioners can be.
please watch the whole thing before judging him , Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine.
@@blessed6477 Please share some relevant time stamp when Dr.K says this. I have been a big fan of his work for a long time and I would love to keep watching him if he actually doesn't believe in such pseudoscientific things.
@@kamra702 again, just watch the whole thing. It's nobody's responsibility to cater to your broken attention span by spoonfeeding you timestamps. Watch the whole debate before jumping to conclusions lol
@reginaldpooftah4525 lol. The guy got a reply to one of his previous comments with timestamps, too. Haters will hate anyway. Dr.K isn't arguing for ayurveda to be accepted in entiretly but for it to be considered as a source of some value. Even penicillin was a discovery by modern medicine from ancient tribal medicine. Modern medicine is the way forward but much can be gleaned from other sources too.
i really want to see a video that highlights what people study in BAMS and BHMS
As an Indian Doc , I completely approve the modern medicine aspect done through research. ❤
An ayurveda student here and love such debates! Would have loved to have a say in the debate because I have an extremely good understanding of what's happening now in the industry but am sceptical about it myself!!
Why study it?
@@nvytebhygtvbvtyebr because all things considered it is a science that has survived 5000 yrs and not without its merits like it has kept quite a lot of people alive throughout that time. It has quite a lot of "mysticism" due to a lot of associations with a religion but underlying all of it is some solid science.
Hi pranav, another youtube channel called "Institute of Human anatomy" was hacked a few weeks ago. I think the people who were behind the hacking of that channel are also responsible for your channel's hacking. I remember, the hackers changed the channel name to MicroStrategy as well. The hackers are probably some bitcoin dealers
Or maybe hackers are pseudoscience channels that don't want to be debunked.
MicroStrategy is not a bad name tho lol
needs to have a unique name, otherwise people will think he's Tanmay Bhat💀
@@paritoshd bruh💀
Bro his channel's real name is science is dope
lmao the fish and milk thing was something i just had an argument with my mom about. i drink usually 2-3 cups of milk every day, because i drink instant coffee (cheap) in milk and i've also been eating a lot of fish because i just found this sushi place near my place that's pretty affordable and i keep craving fish. and she's talking about how eating milk and fish together will like make you sick or something and i kept linking her studies that said it didnt and she didn't care until i told her i've been doing this for about 5-6 months now and i'm completely fine. she got her bachelor's in biology. it's insane to me how even people who have literally studied science before can be completely opposed to the scientific process. i know it's hard for people to change their minds based on evidence but i realized that's what you should be doing when i was in like high school and i've been trying to get better at it since. i wonder what stops people from adopting this thought process
Well the fish and milk thing does not work for me. It may work for you because you have strong digestive system or because you are not sensitive enough to feel any uneasiness in the body due to the food. Now you are asking why people are asking why people are not using science. Well science allows only verified and proven results to be discussed. Now no ody has researched on food combination so far because they don't have theories around it or may be they don't have equipments or systems that can measure the effect. That doesn't mean it proves that ' food combination doesn't not matter'. It simply means its not tested. This is the typical bias of so called scientific thinkers that what's not proven is proven not to exist.
I'm sorry but here we are talking about health and medicine not Burger King or McDonald's, you cannot be open minded with health and medicine, it's your life we are talking about, so always be super critical with any alternative medicines which does not have any clinical data, evidence, or research, and just purely based on opinions, your life is the most valuable thing, so value it thank you. "your life matters" 🙏
I have been waiting for this for at least 1 1/2 year…. Ever since I started watching Dr K and how he used to infuse Ayurveda and meditation in his regular conversation about mental health of modern times.. I used to feel unheard… also because his bias on Ayurveda were not something that he was aware of.. he just took it as for granted.. but only examined through this podcast with Dr Mike and it couldn’t have been anyone better… therefore, as soon as I saw this podcast in my feed I sent it to Pranav bhai even before watching myself.. then I watched it over two days… and I’m really happy that Pranav gave this so much time and attention . Thank you for adding to this conversation! I hope you get your channel name back
i mean meditation isn't a hoax tho
yo! will u do another collab with dave farina?
Yeah I also want another collab.
@@prodigious5766
it was sooo good
@@shreyvarad Yeah and Dave is a good-looking guy (not homo)
From the use of left and right hands statement said by DR K i can assume that he just wants to be proud his Indian heritage like all of us ,i am not saying its bad or anything after being colonised by western power for more than 200 yrs and getting degraded as a low class people but he can at least be more logical and unbiased about medicine
Also you are the only channel that is unbiased today
please watch the whole thing before judging him , Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. the part that this guy chose to not show.
I eat 3 Doshas for Breakfast
I eat them with extra benne 😂❤
As you should somebody told me to avoid milk nd eggs nd garliac nd i eat coffee nd omellet for breakfast
@@mrmap4875 you should perhaps avoid eating coffee and drinking omelette
I REALLY wanted you to react on this podcast. It was the first thought that came to my mind after watching it.
For me this was a classic example of “Don’t believe/support everything that someone says just because you like other stuff that he has said”.
I have really liked Dr. K ever since I first saw him. Heck I purchased the Dr. K guide to mental health, with my first pay cheque. But this podcast really put me off. I really respected Dr. Mike’s scepticism and he got me to subscribe after this. This is not to say that I won’t be watching Dr. K anymore. He still is in my opinion a pretty good resource for mental health. While I would not stand for Ayurveda over Allopathy in almost all spheres, I feel his blend of eastern and western thought just fits in my world view of mental health.
Also like how Dr. K is atleast sceptic about some of Ayurveda and his beliefs don’t come in the way of his practice. He is practical about it, it seems.
If anything the podcast has made me a little more mature about who to believe and how much to believe. (PS: It is not necessary to go all in, one can discern what to take up, ofcourse it should not b e self contradictory and hypocritical)
PPS: The last time I had such a realisation was when I grew out of my Devdutt Pattanaik phase.
I don't think Dr K is advising anyone to prefer ayurveda over allopathy. He has studied allopathy himself and supports it, however his methods of blending in eastern ways has helped people a lot just like you said it. He says ayurveda needs more research but it can also be incorporated with current day medicine for the best output instead of picking one or the other.
Alternative medicine revolves around emotional, sentimental, and knee-jerk reaction and that's the most prominent thing you will observe in all people to trust and it advocate for them.
The Islamic alt. medicine which include Persian, Arab and South Asian generally called Tib-i-Nabawi or Hikmat has also been influenced by Greek and Indian medicine and in South Asia gets specifically Ayurvedic in nature. It also bases itself on the Greek 5 humors theory which something Avicenna (Abu Sina) also subscribed to or supported.
Needless to say the unexplored herbal component of it paired with rigorous double blind testing can be tapped into as R&D for developing modern medicines. The rest is just bunkum.
Hey Pranav can you please make a video on the topics of ayurveda that are being thought in bachelor degree courses and in NEET exam
Great work Microstraegy
Practicing Dr.K's teachings have helped me deal with my mental health and self-image issues, dealing with grief etc... his holistic approach is what makes him unique... But even I feel like defending Ayurveda too much is not a good approach!!! Even though I like that he takes some inspiration from Indian mindfulness practices and so on... But still yeah Ayurved can't answer it all... It's approach is of prevention not cure!!!
Every society has evolved a medical tradition that tries to cure local diseases using local beliefs and locally found source material. I wish the Indian government had followed in the footsteps of the Chinese. First they archived all the traditional chinese medical textbooks. This made it easy to search for diseases and prescribed cure. Next, and most importantly, they began a systematic scientific evaluation of the medical prescription. And the last step, they tried to isolate the active ingredient of the medicine using modern methods. This was how the Chinese found a new cure for malaria, artemisinin, and they were awarded the 2015 Nobel prize for physiology. Although this prize is awarded to a specific person, we should also recognize the underlying governmental support for such research work. The study of ayurveda would have made more sense this way. If only ... The most surprising thing is that all this research was done during the chaos of Chinese cultural revolution. I would like to request Pranav to make a video about the story behind the discovery of artemisinin and how India can do something similar with their traditional medical knowledge.
He won't because of his clear biases against alternative medicine.
I don't think so. I am asking for the story of science to be told, and not of quackery.
They didn’t eat fish with yogurt because in the historical days because those were before food regulations so fish would have bacteria that would not sit well with the yogurt. Or vise versa.
This reminds of an old wives tale that you shouldn’t drink water after eating fruit. This is because wells back then were of unclean water and having harmful bacteria that would thrive in the stomach from the fruits you just ate
May I know the source of this information?
Another great video! I would love to see what the pseudoscience courses teach in a future video. As someone whose has been raised in a well educated yet traditional family, it is truly sad to see my loved ones fall for such malpractices. I feel like I have absolutely no way of helping them, but your videos help me at least put forth some facts and logic which will hopefully make a difference in the future or in dire situations.
finally a good criticism of dr k
it;s not good if he won't acknowledge the part Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. the part that this guy chose to not show.
There is no real cause and effect when it comes to medicine and human illness/health.
I was personally asthmatic for years, took allopathic medicines all the time - they only provide symptomatic relief but don't really cure anything. I got rid of asthma only when I took the matter out of the hands of the doctor in my own - extreme dietary control, change in mental attitude and robust physical exercise. This is what uprooted my asthma, not any prescriptive medicine.
Of course fools will still believe that the body is "nothing but just a bunch of chemical reactions, all happening by their own".
Doctors also suggest lifestyle changes along with medicines. No doctor thinks body is just a bunch of chemicals..it's the public who is eating all unhealthy foods and blaming doctors
😂
I think, India did make a contribution to medicine just like all the other cultural medicine of that time sharing and learning from each other and if they want to keep on the legacy of that contribution, they should do research on the unexplored herbal remedies and do it based on the modern lines and throw away things which have long been debunked like homeopathy, 5 humors, etc.
Dude, why is the channel name not recovered from the hack? Is this a RUclips thing?
Yeah I think so :(
@@scienceisdope Hey looks like the name is back! 👍
Brother can u talk on topic of Sushruta Rishi's surgical methods who is often referred as first cosmetic surgeon reflect on this plzz ..
Ur content has been getting interesting and informative too tnx for ur efforts ❤❤❤❤
Dr. K had been providing some good and helpful strategies to deal with some mental health issues. He still does. But this is a perfect example for cases where you can not like everything someone says because something they said really touched you.
He went on about reincarnation and past lives at some point. Now Ayurveda. Anyways, thanks Pranav for this video.
Could you link me the video where he talked about reincarnations?
past lives and reincarnation is very much debated in the scientific community coz many experiments and research have been conducted , i saw and learned about them in a video of dr vikas divyakirti but can't rember now, and in those intensive research cases of incarnation was took upon and disproved but still a significant number of cases couldn't be do so, also just because somebody believes in something that is not proven or scientific doesn't make him wrong. for ref u can still watch this one- ruclips.net/user/shortsevekbUv0-k0?si=mz2I07FSglbbGgRa this clip is cut from this video of his- ruclips.net/video/pbsbauDvrw0/видео.htmlsi=xdIiNDd7WHob3BAC
For those who think dr K is biased and blind towards ayurveda, I request you to to watch the original interview yourself before making any conclusions.
Dr. K never said ayurveda is more effective than western medicine.On the contrary he actually agreed with most of what Dr. Mike said(But this guy doesn't show that).He was talking about the ayurvedic approach. This guy completely the cherry picked those clips.
Don't take my word check the interview out yourself.
For the record I am not a pro ayurvedic person and I actually appreciate most of the videos of this channel. But this time the man of science himself is biased.
I don't think you actually viewed the whole video pranav mentioned to go and watch the original video and he also mentioned how this debate is must watch
He also used this debate to provide his stance on the conversation and his view on ayurvedic medicine
It is not cherry picking it is called putting up a opinion
@@sai_neko_reddyYou do understand that people putting an opinion do just that and cherry pick to fit a narrative. He could have easily said that Dr K agrees with Western Medicine and doesn't think Ayurveda is this crazy thing that is better than allopathy but he didn't and he made Dr K look bad. He should've done better.
@@aaron827 i agree with you on that point that he showed a lot of bias but I am also acknowledging the fact that he mentioned like 3-4 times to actually watch the original pod cast and if I am not misremembering he also mentioned Dr k's beliefs are not 100% pro ayurveda something like that
@@aaron827 i actually did watched the whole pod cast though it was a fun and educational watch , dr Mike is good like really good cause he made so many good points that dr k couldn't even answer a lot of them
yes this guy is biased he didn't acknowledged the part where Dr. K explicitly says that he doesn't believe in Ayurveda and like 90% is garbage. Dr. K explcitly tells Dr. Mike that he agrees with his view on alternative medicine. the part that this guy chose to not show. i mean wouldn't it actually helps pranav to prove his point?
Why you keep on changing channel's name?
Please brother. Change the channel name back to “Science is Dope”.
It was there in the video itself since his channel was hacked and the name was changed into micro strategy so it will take some time to change his channels name back to original
Great video, Would love to hear your unbiased analysis on the documentary What the health...
Link me
@@scienceisdope What the Health documentary is there on RUclips or you can google, YT is not allowing posting links
Pranav make video on "werstupid" fitness channel spreading ayurvedic psuedosceince
i felt intelligent when i heard sadhguru, jordon peterson and Dr.K. Now I am feeling intelligent again watching 'science is dope'. Back then, I felt I was differentiating myself from the pack by way of gaining information that others dont process and left critical thinking at the door. Now I realised that I was just another privileged right wing thinker, false mystic and women hater who likes to talk. The only thing that hasn't changed is me coming to RUclips every day and spending 6 hrs per day being a couch potato.
I'd definitely want to know what they are taught in the pseudoscience course. Please make a video!
How did it get hacked?
While there are no "ayurvedic tests" available present day ayurvedic practitioners do routinely utilize HbA1c metrics when treating diabetics.
If a famous RUclipsr like Pranav can continue creating content despite being hacked, then why can't I push through my own challenges and make progress in my life?
I once had some discussion bout NIMHANS with my psychiatry professor, I remember that he mentioned the then (2019ish) director of NIMHANS Dr B N Gangadhar was cuckoo bout yoga and how he pressurized his research scholars and post graduate students to pursue research in yoga, they didn't get a say in it. It was his way or the highway.
That's just sad.
You reduce the population of India irrespective of caste or religion...all the crap will go in all sectors sector.Govt is mum , because people are making lively wood out of.Govt not able to feed so many....people are creating crap out of everything.
Hey, why do the color grading of your portions keep changing? Is it coz of taking footage from two cameras or accidentally disabling an adjustment layer in your editing tool?
It's my light. Level keeps fluctuating
Been waiting for this one 💯💯💯
Channels name is science is dope but the commenters seem more interested in politics 🤡
Ikr 😂😂😂
A literally cult
Tbh, after I watched Dr. Mike and Dr. K my impression was, that Dr. K just argued for more research to be done on Ayurveda. Not that he favors Ayurveda to Western Medicine. He explicitly says the problem of Eastern Medicine is that it's not critically checked / studied. He also said that he regularily warns western practicioners of Ayurveda about the problems of Ayurveda.
I think Dr. K is pushed into "defending" (rather explaining some interesting things about) Ayurveda because he argues: there might be something to Ayurveda. Let's please check it with scientific studies and not just throw it away because there aren't good studies yet.
When did the channel name change?
Channel was hacked
Is he trying to mix mental health with the Ayurveda/Elements? Will that not affect treatment of his patients?
I suppose not, his way of treating the patient is way is not impacted by his opinion of ayurveda actually.
LoL No...stop being so irrational.
Who is here after Dhrub Rathee
Dear Sir, I am a little learner in class 12th...... In one of your videos, you said Hinduism is Bullsh.t like other religions. Religions like Hinduism and those practiced in early Egypt are not mere custom and traditions but are often associated with philosophy. So indirectly you called all those bullish.t. From Charwak[do not believe in the idea of god] to Advaita Vedanta [non-duality]. I think you must do some study of these. Even the atheist movement which was initiated 3000 years ago is part of this.
Don't worry he will not read. He is agenda oriented content creator. He has his own agenda.
Do you think he doesn't know and looking for rational evidence.
He is Pretending Rational Thinker.
channel hacked?
92 views in 3 mins
Bro fell off!!😭
The 2-3 cases a month in Dr. Lavekar’s clinic is definitely an understatement. Many patients do not disclose past use of Ayurveda/homeopathy as they think that the doctors are biased towards alternate medicine (as many are vocally against using them). I know this from firsthand experience where my parents did not disclose their past use of ayurvedic medicines when suffering from liver injury and just left it to the physician to treat them despite it. They staunchly believe that doctors discourage use of Ayurveda as they see it as competition (facepalm, I know). This is despite us showing them enough scientific evidence & ethical issues with Ayurveda.. they’re just brainwashed, I feel
That guy doesn't even know about Ayurveda. When pushed for specifics he goes blank.
Watch the whole podcast. Dr.K is a licensed doctor from Harvard. This was him not trying to defend Ayurveda but only show that it had some benefit to it. In the podcast, he does say that 90% of Ayurveda is garbage.
Students should study science and answer science question in an entrance exam to enroll in a pseudoscience course... This is ridiculous👿👎 i dono how science student get into these fallacy...
Carts were effective before automobiles were invented.
Same with ayurveda and modern medicine.
Ayurveda can be used as preventive medicine or supportive medicine but not for diagnosis and treatmemt
Exactly!
You said it but most of this brain washed people don't accept this
No it can't be used for anything due to lack of evidence
Nutrition is different from ayurveda
And they get salaries of upto 2lac for doing nonsense diagnosis and treatment 😢
@@Sheehamjoh they get those salaries for practicing allopathy(mixopathy)
RCT is very good at eliminating bias factor. Ayurveda stipulates that bias in inherent to treatment. In practice (from what i saw in this vid and the podcast) ayurveda does try to extrapolate with the theory of dosh and such. So why dont we do a RCT by eliminating all bias except the one the treatment claims(I know there may be very specific conditions, but I am talking about the treatments claimed to be a bit general). So lets say a treatment T1 works for disease D1 on people with dosh A, then we can test these combos
No T1 no D1 on Mix Dosh
No T1 on D1 on Mix Dosh
T1 on no D1 Mix Dosh
T1 on D1 on Mix Dosh
T1 on D1 on Dosh A
T1 on no D1 on Dosh A
No T1 on D1 on Dosh A
No T1 on no D1 on Dosh A
I mean normally RCTs already test with a bias of having the dieseas no? Why not add one more to it.
Ofc the no. of groups required will grow exponentially with respect to the no. of biases factored. But I think adding 2-3 biases could still be feasible.
Ofc for this to produce accurate results, we need unbiased researchers, so in that fact, even I won't trust Ayush's research on this.
Prana is untestable, how the f they tested that refrigeration depletes it??
This guy smartly critzised doctor K unlike how he does to other people like Sadguru because he knows the fuck he is compared to doctor K … as usual this guy has a propaganda .. jus shows clips and exactly what he wants people to hear and get manipulated. Do not fall for anyone if you seek the truth search by urself and please watch the whole video and not this clowns interpretation
True. When the other person somewhat having credentials he choose defensive way but still try to infuse denial in a more subtle way pretending as if polite. He is certainly agenda oriented. His rational thinking bolis down to simply debunking saying no peer reviews.
He is not looking for evidences instead ready to deny anything. Purely Agenda oriented .
Logic and rationality are the most important elements in the world and the blind superstition is the greatest weakness. Great job 👍 keep it up
Hey Science is Dope
Huge fan!!
Request you to make a video on fruitarian and living water (h3o2)
I think it's a new scam buzzing around
pranav need to make a video about Rosemary odinga (ex Kenyan president's daughter who had an eye disease cand cant see) treatment
Great Video!!!
The human population is around 8 billion. If we were to have individual medicine for each person, we would need around 8 billion types of medicines just for one disease. What?
With that logic people suffering from side effects are just unlucky
I love all the 3 people in the video! And Yes this episode in the podcast is just awesome, respect and healthy discussion in disagreements, with honesty, skepticism! Loved it!
I love watching long form video even tho I can see the fellow subscribers are not happy with it insights are showing that anyways I support long form content and this video was great
Wash with left hand, cook with right and then 🙏
There are many claims that drinking water from plastic bottles is harmful and even causes cancer. But I'm confuse about this. Can u plz make a detailed video about this topic. I think it'd really help a lot of people.
that's truetue tho , microplastic have started entering human blood , recentle a new born baby was born with microplastic in blood , the expiry date on water bottle is of the bottle plastic and not of water , it's the date of at what time it will start mixing within the water if sealed , unsealed water bottle plastic don't last more than 2-3 days
18:40 should’ve used “sex” instead of “gender”
Why Channel name changed to MICROSTRATEGY ?
Dr K is off about many things. Somehow it seems he is grifting.
Because it is not his field.
He is a psychiatrist and he CAN have opinions i guess
@@franklin_johnson01 A physics professor can have a opinion that milton is better than Shakespeare and it is fine but when a doctor who has studied modern medicine takes about ayurvedic medicine like this you should question his competence. The guy literally equated left hand and right hand rule to understanding of germs. I dont know if he is branding himself as a doctor who approves ayurveda with a medical degree from harvard. He seem to be fishing for indian audience which believes this crap.
@@LaziestHQ you know nothing about him if you think he will use understanding of ayurvedic medicine while treating his patients.
And rest of your doesn't make sense. People on this channel are so predictable and irrational.
His videos on men's mental health and mental health in general helped me and a lot of people.
@@franklin_johnson01 Read about nobel prize syndrome and also if a person has been trained in scientific method he will recognise how idiotic ayurveda , homeopathy and unani medicine is in terms of leaps of logic. You can also find good stuff on psychology from Jordan Peterson but that doesn't mean he is a white supremacist nut. Same with this guy streaming on twitch and talking about gaming addiction and even suicide. His professional opinion is valued due to his actions and relevant education but he ignores scientific method and talk about there is hidden science. Modern medicine is the best way of treatment and promoting ayurveda is harmful.
Thank you mai kuch phle inko hi vidio dekh rhi thi 🌸you are doing great 👍
Thanks brother
I LOVE AYURVEDA and Tibetan medicine 💊 as a woman because unfortunately, women get MISDIAGNOSED A LOT by medicine doctors everywhere in the world. My mother got HIGH BP and the doctor recommended her the BP medicine (the smallest one was no more available in the market. I guess they want people to be addicted to it). She told the doctor, she can manage the BP and if possible, she wouldn't like to eat the whole medicine. The doctor said, she can start by eating half. A very nice tibetan doctor she used to go to (for physiotherapy) asked her if she was eating any medications. She said yes and then he checked her BP. IT WAS VERY LOW. He said "you don't need it". He didn't insist that she defy the doctor but simply asked her to eat it after her next appointment with him. Everytime he checked, her BP was low. He recommended that she give up the medicine and changed her diet. IT WORKED! MY MOTHER DOES NOT TAKE MEDS and she is very healthy. Also, my father's gastrointestinal issues got a lot better after his meds.
PS : I DO HATE LALA RAMDEV...AND PEOPLE LIKE HIM
From your anecdote, isnt the issue a problem of poor medical care standards rather than the medicine itself. You mentioned your mother was misdiagnosed and was prescribed unnecessary medications. She recovered when the unnecessary medications were removed. How can you attribute her health to an alternative medicine. How do you even know whether it even works for everyone.
@@antojosefernandez Most doctors would prescribe the same medicine because my mother did have high bp. What they wouldn't do...is HELP HER MANAGE THE ROOT OF THE ISSUE instead of dealing with the aftermath. They just don't know what to do with a patient who has always had low BP her entire life and now has HIGH BP problems. Most doctors would prescribe the same medicine and it wouldn't be considered "malpractice".
What really helped her manage anxiety and BP... and take it out from its root was not medicine but yoga (80%) and going to the tibetan doctor (20%).
Now, I have soo many doctors in my extended family ranging from cancer specialists to eye doctor to dentists...
I ain't going to alternative medicine if I get cancer..
But even if 10% of people are helped like my mother, its a large number of people.
Another example is my mummy giving me ajwain and one other thing (I don't know its name) for period pains. I get mild period pains and the doctors tell you that YOU SHOULD NOT TAKE PAIN KILLERS for that. There's not much medicine can do here. Now, it irritated me for 13 years of life and reduced my ability to do daily tasks until I tried this basic ayurvedic or home remedy reluctantly (me, being the educated person just wouldn't take it). It worked for my period pains and mom said ...just like the doctor "talking to you is like talking to a person who doesn't have an open mind".
Now, many people get period pains and severe period pains are unlikely to be solved like that but if it can make life better for even 10%... There are absolutely zero side effects of it.
The point is...medicine vs ayurveda isn't a war. This isn't about choosing sides. We should keep an open mind.
The reason doctors won't recommend pain killers for mild periods pains is because it can have side effects over time which can range from normal gastrointestinal to very severe ones. But having it sometimes won't be that bad.
@@valley-girl every body reacts differently. Besides, pain killers addiction is a serious problem in many countries.
If you don't mind can you share more details. What medicine was prescribed for bp. What is "HIGH BP" and after going to the Tibetan doctor how low was the bp. Weekday is her age. What is her current bp.
I hope the Original channel name is reassigned soon.
why did he changes it?
As a follower of Dr. Mike for a long time, I actually felt Dr Mike was very hostile during the whole interview. Meanwhile Dr.K maintained his cool and tried to find a common ground and kept trying to understand why Mike was being so.
And it was Dr.Mike who kept on steering the discussion in that direction. He could have easily changed the topic at any of the common grounds Dr K was offering. But instead he showed his biased views towards non-allopathic medical system (The irony being he himself is a osteopathic medicine practitioner)
Osteopathic medicine isn't 'non allopathic medicine.'
Why dont we just clnically trials ayurvedic medicine, i dont understand this Himalayan Liv52 is very effective many allopathic doctors are prescribed that medicine worldwide, we need data research on ayurveda, i am against both ideologies who said ayurveda is everything and dont take modern medicine and also who.directly oppose ayurveda.