FordPass 5 0 Update: What's Different and New

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  • Discover the latest updates and features in the FordPass 5.0 app update. Learn what's new and different in this must-have app for Ford vehicle owners! #fordpass
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  • @longmcarthur
    @longmcarthur  Месяц назад +2

    Here is an update video where it covers the FAQ from Ford. ruclips.net/video/mvzV5S4KLqk/видео.html

  • @rjohnstone7549
    @rjohnstone7549 Месяц назад +55

    Ford removed a ton of great features. No fuel level anymore, range is not a substitute.
    No more Pro Power settings, trailer light check is also missing.
    Service records only show history now, you can no longer make your own entries for self-service.
    They also buried TPMS and Oil Life under the Service, Vehicle Health section.
    I give this "update" 2 stars. It looks pretty, but the loss of functionality kills it.

  • @richardcorley364
    @richardcorley364 Месяц назад +25

    It needs to be changed back to the way it was

  • @richardcorley364
    @richardcorley364 Месяц назад +25

    I hate the new update

  • @nmill005
    @nmill005 Месяц назад +24

    Really dislike the owner can't add their own service record in the new update, like we can in the previous version. For example, if I change my own oil. That feature is enough for me to keep the old version.

    • @loganwilcox8322
      @loganwilcox8322 Месяц назад +4

      That's is what brought me to this video!. Very upsetting

  • @nprewitt5503
    @nprewitt5503 Месяц назад +17

    Why did they remove the odometer reading? This update is a HUGE step backwards.

    • @poundsonwood
      @poundsonwood Месяц назад +1

      It's still there. Look at Service/Vehicle Health. Tire pressure, Odometer, and Oil Life are there.

    • @nprewitt5503
      @nprewitt5503 Месяц назад +1

      @@poundsonwoodThank you. I missed that.

    • @newfie-dean5803
      @newfie-dean5803 Месяц назад +1

      Mine says vehicle health unavailable so I cannot see any of the useful stuff. If it ain’t broken, why fix it Ford!?

    • @btl4220
      @btl4220 Месяц назад

      @@newfie-dean5803
      I have the same problem 😡

    • @lilu1655
      @lilu1655 Месяц назад

      ​@poundsonwood thank you i was looking for that.

  • @je1279
    @je1279 Месяц назад +8

    It definitely feels like a downgrade compared to the prior version.

  • @quantummechanic59
    @quantummechanic59 Месяц назад +6

    Ford really screwed up a decent app. Most features no longer work.

  • @gabereckerwithstatewidefor2167
    @gabereckerwithstatewidefor2167 Месяц назад +2

    Thanks for the walk around. I am very very disappointed in losing my zone lighting and trailer light check

  • @newfie-dean5803
    @newfie-dean5803 Месяц назад +8

    This update is terrible. Ford just keeps getting worst and worst. I can no longer see basic features such as remaining oil life, tire pressure monitoring, or fuel level and range. The previous version was great and now they took major steps backwards. You should be able to add your own service history too because I prefer changing my own oil and transmission fluid because I know I will do it better than the dealer will. From starting to do my own oil changes right away I noticed they had removed the 2 side bolts for the engine cover and never replaced those. This is exactly the type of sub par stuff that happens at dealerships while they charge you premium hourly service rates.

  • @phillipbaxley9663
    @phillipbaxley9663 Месяц назад +6

    Great App for Kids. Would really like to have the version for grown ups back. New version is embarrassingly dumbed down. Where did the ProPower Onboard info go, for example?

  • @SpaceTech54
    @SpaceTech54 Месяц назад +2

    Great Update! Thanks Tim.

  • @jayboegs6268
    @jayboegs6268 Месяц назад +8

    sure it has some improvements but damn I loved knowing how many miles I had

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  Месяц назад +1

      It's under services- Vehicle Health

  • @craigphillips3154
    @craigphillips3154 Месяц назад +2

    Glad that the lock/unlock feature is now a tap and no longer press and hold (where you can't see what's happening because you ended up covering up the button as you held it).
    I never really explored the app very much before seeing the video. From the comments, it sounds like there were some useful features/info that have now been removed.

  • @iPhoneSpy
    @iPhoneSpy Месяц назад +10

    The App no longer show tire pressures and oil life but in the settings it allows you to change PSI to Bar so did they forget to put a button for tire pressure?

    • @Aceinfinity-le8zc
      @Aceinfinity-le8zc Месяц назад

      Mine does

    • @iPhoneSpy
      @iPhoneSpy Месяц назад +1

      @@Aceinfinity-le8zc where’s it located? Don’t see it with 5.0 of FordPass for a Ford Explorer

    • @Aceinfinity-le8zc
      @Aceinfinity-le8zc Месяц назад +1

      @@iPhoneSpygo to service then vehicle health. It doesn’t show fuel left though. Just range

    • @iPhoneSpy
      @iPhoneSpy Месяц назад

      @@Aceinfinity-le8zc Great thanks!

    • @charlesgibson4184
      @charlesgibson4184 Месяц назад

      Stopped working. Locked up on “What’s new” screen.

  • @ktmacgoo
    @ktmacgoo Месяц назад +5

    Wow! Talk about a step backwards! Update removes feature I had with my F150 Powerboost like Zone lighting, Propower, etc. How is this an upgrade! Disappointed and hoping Farley is not going to bring Toyotas model… start charging subscription $$ for adding these. Ford is dipping toe with BlueCruise and Nav subscriptions.

  • @donaldredline975
    @donaldredline975 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you

  • @vols4448
    @vols4448 Месяц назад +1

    This was a super informative and educational tutorial on the Ford Pass application. Thank you for taking the time to keep us informed.

  • @trishinnorco1241
    @trishinnorco1241 Месяц назад +1

    Very helpful

  • @frankkeel8410
    @frankkeel8410 Месяц назад

    Excellent!

  • @maxherron1376
    @maxherron1376 Месяц назад

    Thanks Tim. Ford Pass is a great tool and is a major reason for vehicle selection.

  • @ThomasCastrillon-lh3id
    @ThomasCastrillon-lh3id Месяц назад +3

    So the new update doesn't show the manual anymore???

  • @danielpilachowski2424
    @danielpilachowski2424 Месяц назад

    Thanks Tim !
    Dan from New Hampshire!

  • @ChaseHopkins-rg4sh
    @ChaseHopkins-rg4sh Месяц назад +3

    Why would they get rid of Trip Planner??

  • @jefferyhough1654
    @jefferyhough1654 Месяц назад +3

    I just hate that it doesn’t have my tire pressure or my def level anymore on my F 250

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  Месяц назад

      Check under Services and then Vehicle Health

  • @insnsprtn
    @insnsprtn Месяц назад +3

    For Android users, this update also enabled Dark Mode. There does not seem to be a toggle in the app itself, but it will follow the theme (light/dark) set for the rest of your phone.

  • @animalhouseIZ
    @animalhouseIZ Месяц назад +2

    I don’t like the update for the following reason:
    I purchased a d 2021 MaxhE in May 2022 and I bought the ford wall mounted charging station. I traded my machE in Dec 2022.
    With this update I can not access the wall charger through the app since I do not have a ford EV… with the prior app version I was able to access the charging station through the app.
    Spend all of Friday afternoon talking to Ford BEV and app team only for them to say they never thought about something like this happening. They said I could buy another Ford EV or go by a new EV charging station and there is no planned work around for me EV owners that have a wired ford wall charging station.

  • @jamesmiculka
    @jamesmiculka Месяц назад +1

    Long time no see, but many thanks from Central Texas

  • @Scubaken2022
    @Scubaken2022 Месяц назад +1

    I’m thinking this roll back of app features is to fix the battery going into deep sleep mode so quickly. So many things removed it makes no sense unless it’s a battery 🪫 issue.

  • @Crossfirev
    @Crossfirev Месяц назад +2

    Can no longer use the zone lighting on my bronco from my phone.

  • @richardcorley364
    @richardcorley364 Месяц назад +2

    Can't keep track of the things that I looked up

  • @randywendel4671
    @randywendel4671 Месяц назад +1

    My son's Chevy Trax tells his phone many different things about his vehicle...Ford Pass barely scratches the surface. I wish Ford Pass would do so much more. I do wish one could select the location section and enable a mode to make a notification sound when the vehicle moves. My wife wouldn't have to call me and tell me she's on her way home from work. Two-factor authentication for this app might be something to consider.

  • @williamchristie7365
    @williamchristie7365 Месяц назад

    For Mach E - is there a way to track energy costs - like enter you cost per kwh - which should allow the app to calculate energy costs compared to estimated gas fuel cost?

  • @ryanhori6954
    @ryanhori6954 Месяц назад +1

    I like the new Ford pass app.

  • @richardcorley364
    @richardcorley364 Месяц назад +2

    Gas that is in it and miles on it and the rewards points it really sucks so bad

  • @dinochapstick2650
    @dinochapstick2650 Месяц назад +3

    Thanks for the video. Can I see the odometer from the app? The old version had that feature but I can’t find it in 5.0. Thanks!

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  Месяц назад

      Yes, under Services, Then click on Vehicle Health.

  • @leafs2994
    @leafs2994 Месяц назад +1

    2018 Ford Fusion energi doesn't have all thses options ? Why ? Order version of Sync ? Great video!

  • @mdutchy2582
    @mdutchy2582 14 дней назад +1

    They removed my ability to do my own service records. Just a scam to get you to go to the dealer for service or void your warranty if you do your own service. Honestly thinking about selling my F250 because of it. Kind of like the Cummins anyway. Stuff like this aggravates the heck out me and I cant let it go.

  • @marciar8909
    @marciar8909 Месяц назад +3

    This was helpful. Thank you. Can you tell me why, in my Fordpass app service record, it doesn’t actually say the name of the recall update? ( like 24s24 etc). It’s frustrating because I’d like to research the updates that has been done and I can’t find the actual snail mail Ford sent me so I’m not sure what has been done. The app only says “other” for recall also for oil change it only says “scheduled maintenance”. I wish it was more specific and said “oil change”. Thanks

    • @newfie-dean5803
      @newfie-dean5803 Месяц назад

      It is garbage. Literally. You should also be able to add your own service if you do you own oil changes. I buy oil from the Ford dealer but change it myself so I should be able to record that. Ford just keeps getting worst.

  • @marksjunction69
    @marksjunction69 Месяц назад +4

    This is a terrible update. The best part of this app was entering in your own service record and the information that was provided is mostly gone. How do I get the old app back??????

  • @WBSoCal
    @WBSoCal Месяц назад +1

    Continues to be nice that you don't need to use a password or biometric to open the app. Chevy requires that step. Thanks for the update Tim.

  • @prplcws
    @prplcws Месяц назад +1

    My location does not work. I was told that it is not part of the initial rollout and that I need to wait for it to work. I don't get it! Why put something out when it doesn't work? But I see it works for you??

  • @DavidBecker-zq1jm
    @DavidBecker-zq1jm Месяц назад +2

    New app is broken for my 2018 Escape, only features that work are locking and unlocking of doors. No longer able to use remote start, no longer seeing tire pressure and oil life and not able to add new Service History information. Totally useless for me right now on my iPhone, still working fine on my iPad as i haven't yet updated the app on that device.

    • @fender2469
      @fender2469 Месяц назад

      Same with me. Absolutely useless app for my 2019 escape. Wish apple would allow the ability to goto the previous versions of apps. Hopefully ford sees how this update is trash and sends out a fix sooner than later.

    • @DavidBecker-zq1jm
      @DavidBecker-zq1jm Месяц назад +1

      Just about one week into the new update and Ford still has not fixed the app or rolled back to the old version. Is Ford listening to any of the issues that have been reported?

  • @jamesmiculka
    @jamesmiculka Месяц назад +2

    On location, you apparently can’t locate the vehicle if it’s moving. While watching this, I tried to locate my wife coming back from our ranch. It still located here at the ranch while Apple Find Me has her about 25 minutes away

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  Месяц назад +1

      I do think that is funny because I knew that it won't Locate until you stop and turn it off.

    • @coloradod3649
      @coloradod3649 Месяц назад +1

      I think because it is meant to show you where the vehicle is parked not as a tracking device.

    • @jamesmiculka
      @jamesmiculka Месяц назад

      Mahalo

  • @dennismilliken3032
    @dennismilliken3032 Месяц назад +1

    Why doesn't my Fordpass on my 2019 F-150 after I bought out my lease ??? Dealer was unable to fix it either!!! Said due to my 3G system to 4G !!@

  • @phire4694
    @phire4694 Месяц назад +3

    Looks like the biggest part of the update was getting rid of HERE maps and added google maps, yay google gets more of our data 🙄

  • @williamburk7988
    @williamburk7988 Месяц назад +7

    The new 5.0 version sucks. Left out key features and has less capability. No warranty info, no ability to add service records, no ability to refresh the "vehicle health" page in the morning to get a cold tire pressure reading. A new version should expand on the current features and capabilities, not eliminate them. What a huge disappointment.

    • @btl4220
      @btl4220 Месяц назад

      your right about warranty info too 😡

    • @smith26dell
      @smith26dell Месяц назад

      Also removed zone lighting

  • @dawn4833
    @dawn4833 19 дней назад

    Where did all the check trailer lights and zone lighting for ford f150 go?

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  18 дней назад

      They are not in the app. You might look for our updated video to the app where we talk about all the missing things from the app during our livestream.

  • @nv9070
    @nv9070 Месяц назад +1

    Does it still send perimeter plus notifications? Thx! Update could be better :/

  • @PLATINUMBOI22
    @PLATINUMBOI22 Месяц назад +1

    I have 21 f150 where ur is zone lighting feature on the new update

  • @verondagentry8804
    @verondagentry8804 Месяц назад +1

    Update is completely messed up. Can't start my car in advance the it used too. All I have is a slide to turn vehicle off bar but nothing bto start to get AC running. Big time upset over this.

  • @edduinramirez4721
    @edduinramirez4721 Месяц назад

    And the trip planner? in the last version I could plan trips and find charging stations, where goes?

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  18 дней назад

      I did an update to this video where we went through the features missing and Ford's answers during our livestream. The video is called Everything you need to know about the FordPass 5.0.

  • @me69580
    @me69580 Месяц назад +1

    The updated app on iPhone won't allow me to start my F150 using my Apple Watch, says "Vehicle connectivity disabled" and I can't figure out how to fix this. I wish users could revert back to the old app which always worked fine.

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  Месяц назад

      I think you need to check connectivity on the Touchscreen in the vehicle. My Bronco is doing this too.

  • @Nerd-jq1ve
    @Nerd-jq1ve Месяц назад +1

    Why did Ford remove the Powerboost pro power display? I shouldn't have to go to the truck screen when I want to know how much power (watts) I am pulling from the onboard generator, especially in a thunderstorm. This version is missing many features that were in the previous version.

  • @humphryd905
    @humphryd905 Месяц назад +1

    Does that charge info work for the Escape Phev

  • @josipdolic6391
    @josipdolic6391 Месяц назад +1

    Lot of things are missing
    How come zone lightning is missing now
    I don’t even have a picture of my truck
    Tire pressure,oil life…..

  • @Aflo2023
    @Aflo2023 Месяц назад

    My car is always telling me it’s on when I want to TURN IT ON. updated my car system too and don’t know what’s wrong.

  • @PLATINUMBOI22
    @PLATINUMBOI22 Месяц назад +1

    You can't even put on the zone lighting anymore 😕

  • @terryrichardson5124
    @terryrichardson5124 Месяц назад +3

    Too many features missing

  • @scottshutt1
    @scottshutt1 17 дней назад

    Where do you enter owner performed service records?

  • @rorypurpura587
    @rorypurpura587 12 дней назад

    Maybe a coincidence but after the update my screen in the truck defaults back to the (settings screen) every time I restart the motor

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  11 дней назад

      Must be coincidence because the app doesn't communicate with the center stack screen.

  • @Lorwildrose
    @Lorwildrose Месяц назад +2

    Needs a lot of work still. Charging info, account info, and trip planning😢 is sad.

  • @loopedca
    @loopedca Месяц назад +1

    🇨🇦 My app is in maintenance mode 🥴 '23 Bronco Sport badlands

  • @brucerenick8895
    @brucerenick8895 Месяц назад +1

    My 23 escape phev now will not allow me to set charge times in new app. 😡 With old app I could set when I wanted to charge at home while plugged in. Maybe I just haven’t found it yet.

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  Месяц назад

      Is it not showing in the energy section?

    • @brucerenick8895
      @brucerenick8895 Месяц назад

      @@longmcarthur yes I see it now but it says enable in vehicle. I did that yesterday. Came home today and plugged it in and it started charging right away. Only supposed to charge at midnight. Went to old app and re-enabled that, again. Still a few bugs. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @richf2834
    @richf2834 23 дня назад

    How do I control my zone lighting now on the app? It's gone now

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  18 дней назад

      It is gone. We did an update video that we recorded during our livestream. You might watch that for information on what's missing and Ford's response.

  • @nathanbrumbaugh8545
    @nathanbrumbaugh8545 Месяц назад +1

    On the old app, I could remotely charge and stop charging on my 2022 transit. Now this feature seems to be missing, which makes the app totally useless for me. I could also set the charge level remotely with the app before. Not now, This is very inconvenient for my business.

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  Месяц назад

      Yes, they removed it.

    • @nathanbrumbaugh8545
      @nathanbrumbaugh8545 Месяц назад

      Update, things seem to be working now that I was using before on the old app for the most part so apparently just took a little time for me to learn the app or for them to get the app working.

  • @edkeane9398
    @edkeane9398 Месяц назад +1

    Where did the OM go?

  • @gatsby6815
    @gatsby6815 Месяц назад +1

    My 2022 hadn’t updated…hmmm

  • @LarryRichelli
    @LarryRichelli Месяц назад +1

    I just want walk away locking on my Lightning!

  • @romydogra6501
    @romydogra6501 Месяц назад +1

    No zone lighting on the F150’s?

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  Месяц назад +1

      It's gone.

    • @romydogra6501
      @romydogra6501 Месяц назад

      @@longmcarthur was the ONLY feature I used apart from start/stop. Sad.

  • @lisamurray6883
    @lisamurray6883 Месяц назад +1

    The location is not working at all. Horrible from the previous app

  • @Lorwildrose
    @Lorwildrose Месяц назад +1

    Its even worse than I thought. Went on a trip and after stopping to charge the app just disconnected the Bluetooth and would Not connect again. So the app was totally useless and it also stop the car from recognising the location. So nav system was useless and mapping was blank.
    This is a GARBAGE APP!
    >>>>>Can I get the old version back?

  • @pat4815
    @pat4815 25 дней назад +1

    I can even see the owners manual or add service info i hate it

  • @edduinramirez4721
    @edduinramirez4721 Месяц назад

    Where is the trip planners?

  • @georgemerenok5184
    @georgemerenok5184 Месяц назад +1

    Where is the trailer light check feature in the new update?

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  Месяц назад

      Great question, where was it before?

    • @georgemerenok5184
      @georgemerenok5184 Месяц назад +1

      It was under the vehicle tab in features and settings. Push and hold and it would cycle through all the lights so you could check the trailer. I don’t see that option with the update anywhere.

    • @sheilaknutson4043
      @sheilaknutson4043 Месяц назад

      Missing that feature right now. Hubby was able to check rv lights if traveling alone!

    • @georgemerenok5184
      @georgemerenok5184 Месяц назад

      You can still do it from screen inside. Set up your trailer and the light check feature is in the options. However it was a lot more convenient with the app.

  • @bluxombie
    @bluxombie Месяц назад +2

    Pro. It's faster.
    Con. Removed features.
    Con. Not as useful as the last version.
    Con. It's more a pre alpha level of function than a full release.

  • @TM-hn6hz
    @TM-hn6hz 22 дня назад

    Need to change can't see owners manual from PASS anymore or add receipts for service, why would ford do this

  • @tylerwillison4962
    @tylerwillison4962 Месяц назад +2

    Just updated mine. Terrible. Lost a bunch of nice features.

  • @chiefordnance
    @chiefordnance Месяц назад +1

    Gas level gone, Warranty gone and not connected to Ford Credit no longer to see you account.

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  29 дней назад

      Press the little person in the upper right hand corner to get this fordpass and Ford credit links.

  • @erichjefferson6163
    @erichjefferson6163 29 дней назад

    They took out zone lighting features

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  29 дней назад

      Correct. But as we said, Ford plans to bring it back in the near future.

  • @richardcorley364
    @richardcorley364 Месяц назад +1

    Oil life

  • @Wren3333
    @Wren3333 Месяц назад +2

    I am not going to agree and uninstall the app,why do I want to be monitored on how I drive. I barely used anyhow. No thanks.

  • @georgetompkins7238
    @georgetompkins7238 Месяц назад +1

    Just call it “Ford Remote Start”. All the other useful features are gone.

  • @micahrichey5335
    @micahrichey5335 Месяц назад +2

    This update sucks. I can’t edit my maintenance records or use the zone lights on my Bronco anymore. 👎

    • @PLATINUMBOI22
      @PLATINUMBOI22 Месяц назад +1

      Right same thing I was saying. I love using my zone lights on the app

  • @Lowkeygamingg
    @Lowkeygamingg Месяц назад +1

    Worst update ever both 23 mach e and 23 escape phev won’t even unlock or lock and even sometimes start

  • @angelberrios7843
    @angelberrios7843 Месяц назад +2

    It is terrible! Updates are supposed to be an improvement not a downgrade! Wow!! Get better Ford!

  • @hi-kh6nu
    @hi-kh6nu Месяц назад +4

    This new app is terrible

  • @cjswei735
    @cjswei735 Месяц назад +3

    Terrible update to an already meh app. Now it's just trash.

  • @smith26dell
    @smith26dell Месяц назад +3

    Please go back to previous version, 5.0 is terrible.

  • @no1but24
    @no1but24 Месяц назад +1

    Awful update vehicle health temporarily unavailable

  • @jameslong5837
    @jameslong5837 Месяц назад

    My cheap Kia has way more features than My F150

  • @richarcm
    @richarcm 26 дней назад +2

    Hate it.

  • @noblecollins9549
    @noblecollins9549 5 дней назад

    This is the worst update ever. My car cannot connect and all scheduled starts fail. A scam

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  5 дней назад +1

      Try to reset the fordpass in the vehicle and remove your vehicle and add it back on after doing the vehicle reset. That might fix it.

    • @noblecollins9549
      @noblecollins9549 5 дней назад

      @@longmcarthur I did. I have even gone as far as resetting the whole sync system into factory mode and reinstalling the app on my phone to add the car again. It scans the VIN and tries to connect. Then after 15 minutes it will fail and ask you to try again later.

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  5 дней назад

      @@noblecollins9549 Oh that is a new one.

  • @michaelfollett2562
    @michaelfollett2562 25 дней назад +2

    New update is garbage. Why remove the ability to add self service records? Ignorant!

  • @samani1608
    @samani1608 29 дней назад +1

    Downgraded ,

  • @user-nn1df7sn4h
    @user-nn1df7sn4h 29 дней назад

    dont like it, thinking about trading....more bs from ford

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  29 дней назад

      At least it is a free app to use with your vehicle and I hope you didn't buy a vehicle just for the manufacture's free app functionality.

  • @btl4220
    @btl4220 Месяц назад +3

    What Happened to Oil Life & Tire Pressure ??!!??
    🛞

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  Месяц назад

      It's under Services and Vehicle Health

  • @Anonymous_Triangle
    @Anonymous_Triangle 18 дней назад

    Update is trash wtf location says its home when it left 10 minutes ago. Plus wtf range? I need my bar back

    • @longmcarthur
      @longmcarthur  18 дней назад

      The location will be based on where it was when the car was shut off. This hasn't changed from the old app. I'm okay with the range because I usually think about how many miles to empty but agree the bar if fuel or energy is missed. -Tim

    • @Anonymous_Triangle
      @Anonymous_Triangle 17 дней назад

      @@longmcarthur Incorrect when you reopened the location it refreshed the location so basically i could see how far it moved every minute, well at least for me it did. and the fuel gauge was good cause then i know where the tank was sitting before i left someone borrow my car eg. Half tank, full tank