yeah apart from the Cyberbeast having 180 miles less than advertised, they delivered on everything else. Idk how people thought the prices were gonna stay the same as 2019 when we've seen how the economy has been these past 4 years. Its a very cool vehicle in every aspect.
It's really cool and I think better than competitors. I'm just a bit upset about the range and price. The price like you said in your video will probably come down in a few years but the range... In my opinion they should've filled the sub trunk with more cells to increase the range
@@NatureSkyViews that was what i thought too until i realized putting 500 pound rectangle at the end of the bed would not be a good idea. but i've heard they intended on stacking a smaller pack underneath the driver seats which could make it possible to put whatever is left in the sub trunk. if so we'd be getting 470 miles in the cheaper dual motor instead without losing 1/3 of the bed space. win win
The F117 Nighthawk had similar engineering challenges with new materials. The next model, the F22, was much smoother, but both retain the unmistakable stealth quality. After the model S rocked the world I didn't believe Tesla could do it again.
The range is definitely the biggest problem. As someone who lives where they salt all winter every year, I really like the stainless steel. This makes it better than any other EV along with the Model S & X.
@@mick0matic But the panels cover whole car basically, small gaps and around the wheels the area is exposed but other than that it will massively help against corrosion.
@@mick0matic fortunately aluminum and composite parts don't rust either. The Model S & X are aluminum, and I'd much rather one of those than the Model 3 & Y which have steel parts.
@@nathanbanks2354 Aluminium still oxidizes and can be especially reactive when contact with other conductive materials is made. It's why the likes of aluminium wheels still suffer with corrosion. More significantly aluminium is dramatically more suspectable to fatigue failure. Aluminium is also much harder to repair. All in it's why aluminium chassis vehicles like the VX220 have a relatively short service life. If looked after a well made steel chassis will likely dramatically outlast a alloy equivalent.
I appreciate and respect your view on the Cybertruck. You're not a fanboy and you are very much in touch with reality. Your perspective is great for the consumer base.
@@HyphenDude I understand where you're coming from but I don't think owning the vehicles necessarily makes him a "fanboy". To me, a fanboy is blinded by their obsession and abstains from having anything critical to say. Dan does criticize Tesla and has openly talked about perhaps driving a different EV such as Mercedes.
i remember a sentence from Elon 1 or 2 yr ago about cyberT, reaching 500 plus miles was and isn't a problem, but you have to stick 1 battery pack over the other like hummer, so in that way you can have approx 260kwh of power and near 500 miles of range, but now you have a 4tons of truck, heavy as fuck, slow and with less tow capacity, twice the time to charge it up, for what? a 15 min stop for a extra charging stop? not worth it! The range extender gives you the range for that month you need it, the rest of the years you can take it off and have a 2.6sec 0 100 truck.
The dual motor version is the sweet spot. When you consider the potential to interface with a Powerwall and add 11kW of power and 120kWh of storage to your home backup by tapping into the Cybertruck pack the real value proposition is pretty amazing. 340 miles of range in a 6k+lb SS bodied truck for $80K is damn good, and it will be even less with incentives.
800V architecture, using new battery tech, steer by wire with 48V, single piece cast of front and rear, new to industry stainless alloy, air bending of the allow, high torsional stiffness... all appreciated by those interested in engineering and technology. Range is not necessary on daily commute.
A lot of RUclipsrs have focused on what a miss it was, but they have honed in purely on the top model. Pretty much everything else exceeded estimations - dual motor gets MORE range, faster acceleration & higher towing capacity. Single motor matches estimates on range and acceleration. It has only fallen down slightly on the tri motor and I expect most of your audience, if purchasing, would be looking at the dual.
Very true, but I just think there is a pure latch on to negativity, and the points I made don't get a mention. I wonder whether Tesla would have been better delaying the top model @@jemezname2259
@@jemezname225930% less range huge! Especially contractors who drive a lot. Then add the fact is only 5 seats and not the full six from the prototype and with those two misses they’ve shrunk their potential buyer market by 50%.
The towing specs did decline. The range specs are close for the rear wheel and all wheel models, but the tri-motor CyberBeast is much lower than original estimated. The prices have increased a bit more than inflation alone too. Inflation has been around 19.56% since the initial unveiling. That said, we’ve had a lot of feature leaks over the past few years. I guess people thought those would all come for free… The original truck unveiling did not have any of these features/specs: • Steer by wire • Rear wheel steering • PowerShare - bidirectional charging • 48V LV Architecture • 800V HV Architecture • Ability to charge at 350kW w/ V4 Superchargers • Rear 9.4” Screen Not sure if those additions can make up for some people feeling a little disappointed. I do want to know where the adult cyberquad is though…
an optional range extender too. I have a feeling that the tri motor is only in the lineup to up their profit margins while ramping. it only makes sense to make it a quad with independent wheels for the best off roading possible. and at that price 500 miles isn't what people are looking for.
Yeah the range extender is an interesting idea, I realize you are not an engineer but you have to look at battery size not just range. You said 4680s are supposed to be the best right?? They kinda are, if has one of the smallest batteries in an electric truck and has similar range to most. The Silverado has over 200kwh I think around 212, the cybertruck with range extender is at 170, and gets more range. I wish they would have covered this in the event to prevent this kinda of reaction. I am also confused why they dont just put the 50kwh more batteries in the cyberbeast to start. Its the flagship!
Range on the Tri was most definitely what I was looking forward to having. I am 1,000% on the fence now. If I do proceed, it will likely be the dual. You should CERTAINLY buy the TRI and after you are disappointed in it, you should donate it to me......😎🤓
I think it will come down to reliability as I think this is essentially a lifestyle truck that will be used to show off and maybe the occasional trip to the dump or Home Depot like most trucks are probably used for. Influencers will put it through all sorts of tests in the end it will just need to meet its EPA range as well as any EV does and not have lots of mechanical issues. There’s also the unknown in terms of how well the design will work out in the real world. It’s not the vehicle for me for lots of reasons but to each their own.
For some people, it will be a godsend for their type of operation: Sound ppl, real estate ppl, industrial repairs, lighting ppl, camera ppl etc...and anyone who would like to have a mobile powerstation with a high-speed internet nexus. That big-mouthed secure long-bed is a big deal.
Honestly, I get the range extender thing. If they loaded up the truck to get 500+ miles, you are looking at a Hummer EV situation. Too heavy and inefficient. What I don't like, is the design of the extender. It should be a separate truck model from the start, or the 'pack' should not be lump in the back of the bed. But rather a 'sled' that just increases the load height of the bed by one set of cells. It's almost like they are forcing you to choose, have a functional bed, or have towing/range capability.
5:05 So true as it can be, this should have jumped the battery technology again with the range. I seen 3 Cybertruck video's now, and you are so spot on what is the critical importance for this truck. They are missing here a huge critical mile stone, hope some battery engineers can calculate why the range is so low.
I love Tesla, I have one and defend them all the time. But are RUclipsrs and influencers just going to forget the fact that when the Cybertruck was announced the promised price was much lower and the range was a lot higher? When announced the top Cybertruck model was estimating a range of over 500mi+ range and a price of 69,900. Not to mention other stats are now worse. Now the top model is 100,000 and range est of 320mi! Just weird that no one is mentioning this.. But thank you Dan for mentioning it
@@punicwars2 The tri motor range is dissapointing maybe in 2019 they thought there will be some new battery technology or they just counted on the battery extender either way duo motor is probadly the best overall.
The Cybertruck specs are in line with the rest of the industry. I think Tesla was smart not to put a giant battery in the truck. Chevy and RAM are going to have such a tough time making those 200+kwh batteries. My issue with the Cybertruck is that it does not make for a good work truck. Mostly because of its overall design/ shape. Which I absolutely love but it’s a super truck not a work truck. If I was in the market for a truck I would get a Lightning to do real work, a Cybertruck if I just wanted the looks and a bed, or a Rivian if I needed to get work done occasionally.
Almost everything on this vehicle is satisfactory, except for the "modifications" necessary to transform it into a Cybertruck rather than a 'regular' truck. I feel like they shot themselves in the foot with that design that is at least discussable but caused them so many problems down the road.
@@xfuture3762You can’t tow a fifth wheeler, the bed is usably smaller since the the passenger compartment is inward slanted, less outlets then the Lightning, and much smaller front trunk. The cybertruck is more a statement piece then a work truck. Which there is nothing wrong about that. If I had the money I would be getting a R1T or a Cybertruck.
I reckon they made the perfect compromises for the majority of the people that are going to buy the Cybertruck and then at least provided the addons for the outliers. The only problem I have, is that it won't be sold in Europe (for now and maybe never), so I will likely have to import one myself.
Even if you import it, i dont think youll get it insured, as it has too many sharp edges and corners, and thus infringing on pedestrian safety if collision occurs.
Price is right for dual motor. I'm not listening to any negative first impressions. This vehicle is way more capabile than the Model X. The range extender at 470 miles beats Rivian. It's cheeper, has comperable range, but has several features above Rivian's offering. I think its a real winner. Plus you won't have to worry about Rivian bricking your vehicle on updates.
Where I live (EU), the car rusts before any mechanical or electrical problems, so it basically falls apart because of the rust. *Cybertruck would be the best car to have, never rusts so it would be overpowered.*
I like that Idea but that underbed storage is probably half the size of the range extender so that would be like maybe 25 kilowat pack which would give an extra 60 to 70 miles of range.
People don't understand that pickup truck for towing , when you tow your range will reduce more than 2 times, and if it's lithium ion battery u can't charge 100% and discharge more than 20%. Do the math , guys 340 miles will be between 100 -150 mile real range with a RV , is that's enough for camping? I don't think so.
a matter of perspective - 300 miles is nothing for America yet for the UK, you could get almost everywhere on that assuming you start from somewhere like coventry or birmingham in the west midlands
Though in the UK due to weather and the way our roads are it's not uncommon to loose a third off claimed milage. So 200 miles is probably a more realistic range here. Though probably a bigger negative is how unheeding such a big and heavy vehicle would be on UK roads. For example it's significantly bigger than a standard UK parking space. Bigger issue still is going to be getting it past UK safety regulations is the US ones fail on multiple issues. You would also have to deal with insane deprecation. It would certainty never be a particle vehicle. More something you buy because you want rather than any sensible racialization.
I saw a video the other day, and I don’t think you know this, but if you don’t be aware: The Tesla Model S and X Plaid, with the most expensive setting were both like 140,000 for the S, and 150,000 for the X, but now, it’s more like 105,000 For both the S and the X, so following suit might be the Cybertruck. The Cyberbeast starts at just under 100,000, but may decrease to maybe more like 70, 80,000, so, just keep this in mind, and you might change your opinion! Also great video as always! I stopped watching 2 years ago because I felt the videos were out of my interest, and because you stopped uploading to the Main channel, but now, I have started watching again, and I have to say, the videos have gotten a lot better!
I agree. I have low rsv number. Very disappointed on specs. I've been waiting 4 years for this. My X has 345 so I'm not losing range but was also hoping for more.
I suspect in a little while, people will warm up to the CT again once they realize the true advantages. Tough, range still decent and features. Price is truly the only negative and that too will get better.
Even though many people don't like tge design i personally love tge design and the matt black looks really good its design makes it stands out and its out of the box which is really cool
I’m very happy you brought up the 10% degradation in the first few years. This is the reality no one talks about. 500 mile range is basically 8 hours of straight driving with no stops. You could argue 6 hours and that’s still a long time. I have a Model 3 with 280 miles of range (after 5 years) and we road trip a bunch. Supercharging is not a bad deal. We have the opportunity to go to the bathroom every 3-4 hours. A 320 mile range is low, but it’s a “beast” of a truck. They have to add a range extender battery in the bed because there’s likely no room elsewhere. The hype is high. If you have a reservation to get an early model, get it. If not, wait it out. Well, start hearing much more about it in the next 6 months. I’m guessing many will complain about range, but how many people drive over 100 miles daily? Not many. The other concern is towing. My opinion is any EV truck is not worthy of towing. Not enough range for that. And in America, how many truck owners actually have a hitch ball and tow?
I want the range too. We drive twice a year to our vacation home in Calif from Denver. We stop twice now for fuel and were hoping to only have to charge twice. The other thing I want is a pass through to the back with the cover rolled to security (up? down"). I want to put dog beds back there and have them come into the cab only occasionally. By the time my reservation comes up (300,000) I'm hoping that the price drops a little and maybe they will have upgraded their batteries.
The price should not have gone up $30,000. Battery costs are down, Tesla does not have union problems. They never had the chip problem that other manufactures had. 800 V is supposed to save money. No paint is supposed to save money.
Having to convince yourself that you like it when you know everything else is better , less expensive, more bells and whistles in standard without having to spend more money upgrading, overly concerned about speed instead of practical use, no talk at all about maintenance expenses when they come around, and when it reaches more than 2 years old you're either stuck with a brick or have to dish out more money to keep it going, etc.... Sounds like I'm talking about Apple.
If you add the range extender and you consider just how fast it will now charge once V4s are using 800Volts at 350kW. Stopping for 20 minutes every 350 miles is pretty darn impressive compared to how often you have to stop now.
AWD version specs are actually much better aside from price. Average vehicle price has increased $12k in 4 years. With the $7,500 discount that brings the AWD version down to $63,500 only $1500 off the original listing price when adjusted for inflation.
I think that Range extender is too expensive, It should be like 10 grand max. I think with Time the price of the truck will probably drop like 10 grand and they will improve the battery density so the Dual motor might get at least 400 miles of range and like 550 with the range extender. Overall I feel that its an awesome Truck, just the safety of it and toughness and the Gigantic frame and air suspension. I like it.
If and when they improve the battery chemistry, I feel like they would rather make the battery pack smaller, thus lowering weight and increasing efficiency while decreasing the cost, rather than increasing range a substantial amount.
I was bummed about the range issue. Think I'll get an S until the range increases on the Cybertruck. I do have high hopes for Tesla to eventually get the range increased
If batteries improve by a lot, Tesla will probably just shrink the battery pack to improve efficiency and lower the cost, believing the range is good enough for the vast majority of customers. And they’ll continue to improve the supercharging network so hopefully it won’t matter much anymore.
The cybertruck makes a very strong statement, much like g-wagons and hummers, and I feel like Dan is too nice and humble for the Cybertruck to be on-brand for him.
Hey :) I have been reading a lot about the truck, and most of my thoughts are yes get one! There are of course some things that are a no! But I especially like the mid range one, I think 0-60 in under 3 seconds is too fast for a truck haha! But all in all I say go for it. If you like it and can see yourself utilizing it, I’m sure you will though with the new house:)
I think once everyone switches to NACS, range won’t be such an issue. If Bi directional charging works seamlessly that in it self is a major feature going forward. Also In an accident I would want to be in anything else.
the range is definitely the killer for me, 1. you would lose range in about a year; 2. charging up to 80% is better for the battery longevity; 3. What is the point of having a unremovable range extender that takes up 1/3 of the bed size.
Then only range miss was the Tri motor. The RWD is 250 miles like they claimed at original launch and the AWD is actually better at 340 miles vs the 300 they said at launch. The 0-60 are quicker on the AWD and Tri than originally stated.
As somebody that has grown up with trucks being used as intended carrying cargo in the bed, that range extender is very disappointing. You go from having a 6 foot bed to 4ft, can't even safely transport 12 ft boards. Whereas with the midgate on the Silverado EV you can safely transport 16 ft no problem. With all these manufacturers making EV trucks it'll be healthy competition, I feel like in a couple of years we'll have a good selection of EV Trucks.
Here’s my thoughts. There shouldn’t be any complaints about this truck at this point. The people that can afford it and don’t want to wait can take delivery in the next two years. The price will eventually go down, and everyone else can get theres.
The issue is that range struggles if you actually tow. I leased a Nissan while waiting and they are still deleting the towing package. I want a truck not a truck shaped object.
340 max range on the dual motor doesn't really make sense for a truck. The thing with the battery pack addition doesn't really feel better because the range will be less due to the weight addition. Also towing will drain it quickly. Big miss in my opinion, especially with price.
they should've instead of using just a normal shutter for the truck bed they should've made it out of 8kw solar panels (as an option) so help maximise the range to at least over 500 miles. if NIO makes a truck I'm afraid it could outsell the Cybertruck as NIO has already designed a car with over 1000KMs of range (580 miles range).
We are getting much more truck. than originally presented. Drive by wire, all wheel steering alone justify the price change. My plan is to stay with the dual motor and use the sell both my car and truck plus cash to bring the price down to something justifiable. This will be my primary vehicle and my work vehicle.
I haven't owned it, but the Hummer EV I've driven many times and it has a turning radius of a sedan, it is super cool. My father in law 20 years ago had a GMC Denali and it has rear steering and also turned like a sedan. great feature I wish more trucks had.
Is it fair to say that what you mean by specs (plural) is your beef with range (singular)? That range is not even terrible. But I agree that we should be seeing more range with their new 4680 cells.
People need to consider that Tesla needs to consider battery supply with the volume they manufacture, other legacy don’t really need to think of at this time with the low volume they manufacture
Honestly I knew the price was gonna go up but the range was huge miss for me, like cmon and having to pay an extra 16k for my range but losing bed space isnt worth it
think the batteries are going to be better than you anticipate, they will be conservative on initial specs, I think that they are going to offer range updates.
I think your impressions was a little off. Sadly I think with the current battery tech, Tesla probably had to balance the price verses the range. Increase range means increased price and weight. If they were shooting for the federal tax credit then it had to come in under 80,000 for most of the trucks sold. The range extender to me is a little bit of a cop out. But I guess whatever works. But I think with the new tech in this truck, Tesla’s next and updated vehicles could easily go over the 500 mile range mark.
If the range extender can double as a power wall while it sits in your garage waiting for the next big road trip. That would be better option than a 500mile battery in the truck. Just need to install a 1ton crane in garage to lift it.. 😂😂😂
Ive collected my thoughts.... and I think the Cybertruck is still very very very very very very cool.
yeah apart from the Cyberbeast having 180 miles less than advertised, they delivered on everything else.
Idk how people thought the prices were gonna stay the same as 2019 when we've seen how the economy has been these past 4 years.
Its a very cool vehicle in every aspect.
It's really cool and I think better than competitors. I'm just a bit upset about the range and price. The price like you said in your video will probably come down in a few years but the range... In my opinion they should've filled the sub trunk with more cells to increase the range
@@NatureSkyViews that was what i thought too until i realized putting 500 pound rectangle at the end of the bed would not be a good idea. but i've heard they intended on stacking a smaller pack underneath the driver seats which could make it possible to put whatever is left in the sub trunk.
if so we'd be getting 470 miles in the cheaper dual motor instead without losing 1/3 of the bed space. win win
I thought it was cool how they used a baseball on the glass instead of a steel ball like last time 😏
Whew!
The most insane part of the truck isn't even it's shape, but the engineering inside it!
Dude fr it is so ugly and for that much price 69k-99k with a low amount of mile rage sucks.
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And the shape is FANTASTIC on top of it. What a time to be alive.
The F117 Nighthawk had similar engineering challenges with new materials. The next model, the F22, was much smoother, but both retain the unmistakable stealth quality. After the model S rocked the world I didn't believe Tesla could do it again.
@@incomingincoming1133In the world of aviation, the Cybertruck would probably be the Su-57 of military jets.
The range is definitely the biggest problem. As someone who lives where they salt all winter every year, I really like the stainless steel. This makes it better than any other EV along with the Model S & X.
Only the panels are Stainless, the rest is composite/aluminum.
@@mick0matic But the panels cover whole car basically, small gaps and around the wheels the area is exposed but other than that it will massively help against corrosion.
@@mick0matic fortunately aluminum and composite parts don't rust either. The Model S & X are aluminum, and I'd much rather one of those than the Model 3 & Y which have steel parts.
Im in California so thankfully i dont have worry about that.
@@nathanbanks2354 Aluminium still oxidizes and can be especially reactive when contact with other conductive materials is made. It's why the likes of aluminium wheels still suffer with corrosion. More significantly aluminium is dramatically more suspectable to fatigue failure. Aluminium is also much harder to repair. All in it's why aluminium chassis vehicles like the VX220 have a relatively short service life. If looked after a well made steel chassis will likely dramatically outlast a alloy equivalent.
I appreciate and respect your view on the Cybertruck. You're not a fanboy and you are very much in touch with reality. Your perspective is great for the consumer base.
I think he is one of the biggest Tesla fanboys out there. Every car they own is a Tesla.
@@HyphenDude I understand where you're coming from but I don't think owning the vehicles necessarily makes him a "fanboy". To me, a fanboy is blinded by their obsession and abstains from having anything critical to say. Dan does criticize Tesla and has openly talked about perhaps driving a different EV such as Mercedes.
@@BoyNamedKelly That is a good point.
Range was the thing *I* was looking forward to most. Disappointed in that aspect.
Me too. I need the 500+ miles Elon promised for the tri-motor. I would have paid $150k for that. The range extender idea sucks.
@@jemezname2259I still don't get why someone would need 500 mi of range daily 🤔
i remember a sentence from Elon 1 or 2 yr ago about cyberT, reaching 500 plus miles was and isn't a problem, but you have to stick 1 battery pack over the other like hummer, so in that way you can have approx 260kwh of power and near 500 miles of range, but now you have a 4tons of truck, heavy as fuck, slow and with less tow capacity, twice the time to charge it up, for what? a 15 min stop for a extra charging stop? not worth it! The range extender gives you the range for that month you need it, the rest of the years you can take it off and have a 2.6sec 0 100 truck.
if you were towing it would not be 500 either way
@@TheMadmax0609 exactly, they give you an option for extra battery and people still crying about it.
The dual motor version is the sweet spot. When you consider the potential to interface with a Powerwall and add 11kW of power and 120kWh of storage to your home backup by tapping into the Cybertruck pack the real value proposition is pretty amazing. 340 miles of range in a 6k+lb SS bodied truck for $80K is damn good, and it will be even less with incentives.
people haven't woken up to this yet.
800V architecture, using new battery tech, steer by wire with 48V, single piece cast of front and rear, new to industry stainless alloy, air bending of the allow, high torsional stiffness... all appreciated by those interested in engineering and technology. Range is not necessary on daily commute.
A lot of RUclipsrs have focused on what a miss it was, but they have honed in purely on the top model. Pretty much everything else exceeded estimations - dual motor gets MORE range, faster acceleration & higher towing capacity. Single motor matches estimates on range and acceleration. It has only fallen down slightly on the tri motor and I expect most of your audience, if purchasing, would be looking at the dual.
320 miles vs 500+ miles is not a small miss!
Very true, but I just think there is a pure latch on to negativity, and the points I made don't get a mention. I wonder whether Tesla would have been better delaying the top model @@jemezname2259
@@jemezname2259there is a range extender you clown
@@jemezname225930% less range huge! Especially contractors who drive a lot. Then add the fact is only 5 seats and not the full six from the prototype and with those two misses they’ve shrunk their potential buyer market by 50%.
@@jemezname2259with the range extender it gets 440. I would still count it.
The towing specs did decline. The range specs are close for the rear wheel and all wheel models, but the tri-motor CyberBeast is much lower than original estimated. The prices have increased a bit more than inflation alone too. Inflation has been around 19.56% since the initial unveiling.
That said, we’ve had a lot of feature leaks over the past few years. I guess people thought those would all come for free…
The original truck unveiling did not have any of these features/specs:
• Steer by wire
• Rear wheel steering
• PowerShare - bidirectional charging
• 48V LV Architecture
• 800V HV Architecture
• Ability to charge at 350kW w/ V4 Superchargers
• Rear 9.4” Screen
Not sure if those additions can make up for some people feeling a little disappointed.
I do want to know where the adult cyberquad is though…
an optional range extender too.
I have a feeling that the tri motor is only in the lineup to up their profit margins while ramping. it only makes sense to make it a quad with independent wheels for the best off roading possible. and at that price 500 miles isn't what people are looking for.
Inflation is up 3.3% I don't know where you got that number from. If it was that karge a increase a 12pack eggs for $3 would cost $5
You should defintly get the dual motor one, great price for value. Love your videos BTW, been watching since 2017 with my son!
Thank you!
Yeah the range extender is an interesting idea, I realize you are not an engineer but you have to look at battery size not just range. You said 4680s are supposed to be the best right?? They kinda are, if has one of the smallest batteries in an electric truck and has similar range to most. The Silverado has over 200kwh I think around 212, the cybertruck with range extender is at 170, and gets more range. I wish they would have covered this in the event to prevent this kinda of reaction. I am also confused why they dont just put the 50kwh more batteries in the cyberbeast to start. Its the flagship!
So the guy who is building an underground bunker in his backyard (JerryRiggedEverything) isn't interested in a bullet proof truck? 🤔
Just the doors are bullet proof to small pistols, the windows aren't, which you know where your HEAD is at
I drive less than 50 miles/day so I'm glad I don't have to pay for and lug around a large battery that I don't need.
Range on the Tri was most definitely what I was looking forward to having. I am 1,000% on the fence now. If I do proceed, it will likely be the dual. You should CERTAINLY buy the TRI and after you are disappointed in it, you should donate it to me......😎🤓
You had me in the first half…
@@WHATSINSIDEFAMILYI had to try lol🤣
I think it will come down to reliability as I think this is essentially a lifestyle truck that will be used to show off and maybe the occasional trip to the dump or Home Depot like most trucks are probably used for. Influencers will put it through all sorts of tests in the end it will just need to meet its EPA range as well as any EV does and not have lots of mechanical issues. There’s also the unknown in terms of how well the design will work out in the real world. It’s not the vehicle for me for lots of reasons but to each their own.
For some people, it will be a godsend for their type of operation: Sound ppl, real estate ppl, industrial repairs, lighting ppl, camera ppl etc...and anyone who would like to have a mobile powerstation with a high-speed internet nexus. That big-mouthed secure long-bed is a big deal.
Is the video title even a question ⁉️
Every sentence with a question mark is a question
Because if you buy now you won’t get it until 2025 🤣
He placed his order launch day
@@zwill62 And it's value will sink like a stone in a lake.
Honestly, I get the range extender thing. If they loaded up the truck to get 500+ miles, you are looking at a Hummer EV situation. Too heavy and inefficient.
What I don't like, is the design of the extender. It should be a separate truck model from the start, or the 'pack' should not be lump in the back of the bed. But rather a 'sled' that just increases the load height of the bed by one set of cells. It's almost like they are forcing you to choose, have a functional bed, or have towing/range capability.
Yes. this 100%
5:05 So true as it can be, this should have jumped the battery technology again with the range.
I seen 3 Cybertruck video's now, and you are so spot on what is the critical importance for this truck.
They are missing here a huge critical mile stone, hope some battery engineers can calculate why the range is so low.
I love Tesla, I have one and defend them all the time. But are RUclipsrs and influencers just going to forget the fact that when the Cybertruck was announced the promised price was much lower and the range was a lot higher? When announced the top Cybertruck model was estimating a range of over 500mi+ range and a price of 69,900. Not to mention other stats are now worse. Now the top model is 100,000 and range est of 320mi! Just weird that no one is mentioning this.. But thank you Dan for mentioning it
Did you watch the video before commenting? That's literally all they talk about.
but the mid model was 300mi and now its 340mi. they hit the ranges on the lower end and mid model.
@@punicwars2 The tri motor range is dissapointing maybe in 2019 they thought there will be some new battery technology or they just counted on the battery extender either way duo motor is probadly the best overall.
The Cybertruck specs are in line with the rest of the industry. I think Tesla was smart not to put a giant battery in the truck. Chevy and RAM are going to have such a tough time making those 200+kwh batteries. My issue with the Cybertruck is that it does not make for a good work truck. Mostly because of its overall design/ shape. Which I absolutely love but it’s a super truck not a work truck. If I was in the market for a truck I would get a Lightning to do real work, a Cybertruck if I just wanted the looks and a bed, or a Rivian if I needed to get work done occasionally.
Great thoughts!
What work can you not get done in the Cybertruck?
Almost everything on this vehicle is satisfactory, except for the "modifications" necessary to transform it into a Cybertruck rather than a 'regular' truck. I feel like they shot themselves in the foot with that design that is at least discussable but caused them so many problems down the road.
What does the lightning have over the cyber truck apart from the front truck?
@@xfuture3762You can’t tow a fifth wheeler, the bed is usably smaller since the the passenger compartment is inward slanted, less outlets then the Lightning, and much smaller front trunk. The cybertruck is more a statement piece then a work truck. Which there is nothing wrong about that. If I had the money I would be getting a R1T or a Cybertruck.
I reckon they made the perfect compromises for the majority of the people that are going to buy the Cybertruck and then at least provided the addons for the outliers. The only problem I have, is that it won't be sold in Europe (for now and maybe never), so I will likely have to import one myself.
Even if you import it, i dont think youll get it insured, as it has too many sharp edges and corners, and thus infringing on pedestrian safety if collision occurs.
@@smallrino1457 That differs from country to country. Where I live, there will be ways around that.
The amount of content you can make that crazy looking thing is limitless
Price is right for dual motor. I'm not listening to any negative first impressions. This vehicle is way more capabile than the Model X. The range extender at 470 miles beats Rivian. It's cheeper, has comperable range, but has several features above Rivian's offering. I think its a real winner. Plus you won't have to worry about Rivian bricking your vehicle on updates.
Elon: Lets think outside of the box!
Designer: How bout the box?
Why did you stop uploading videos on the main what's inside channel?
Didn’t you preorder like 30 cybertrucks
Where I live (EU), the car rusts before any mechanical or electrical problems, so it basically falls apart because of the rust.
*Cybertruck would be the best car to have, never rusts so it would be overpowered.*
The matte black one looks like a Batmobile
Wow "for *only* (an extra) $16,000 and a third of the truck bed", you get close to the originally advertised range! 😅
Haha those fanboys :D
Remember the video on the main channel where pre ordered like 52 of these monster trucks 😂
They should have the option to fill the under-bed storage with batteries. And it shouldn't take up a 3rd of the bed space.
Exactly. What the f were they thinking?
I like that Idea but that underbed storage is probably half the size of the range extender so that would be like maybe 25 kilowat pack which would give an extra 60 to 70 miles of range.
People don't understand that pickup truck for towing , when you tow your range will reduce more than 2 times, and if it's lithium ion battery u can't charge 100% and discharge more than 20%. Do the math , guys 340 miles will be between 100 -150 mile real range with a RV , is that's enough for camping? I don't think so.
a matter of perspective - 300 miles is nothing for America yet for the UK, you could get almost everywhere on that assuming you start from somewhere like coventry or birmingham in the west midlands
Though in the UK due to weather and the way our roads are it's not uncommon to loose a third off claimed milage. So 200 miles is probably a more realistic range here. Though probably a bigger negative is how unheeding such a big and heavy vehicle would be on UK roads. For example it's significantly bigger than a standard UK parking space. Bigger issue still is going to be getting it past UK safety regulations is the US ones fail on multiple issues. You would also have to deal with insane deprecation. It would certainty never be a particle vehicle. More something you buy because you want rather than any sensible racialization.
I saw a video the other day, and I don’t think you know this, but if you don’t be aware: The Tesla Model S and X Plaid, with the most expensive setting were both like 140,000 for the S, and 150,000 for the X, but now, it’s more like 105,000 For both the S and the X, so following suit might be the Cybertruck. The Cyberbeast starts at just under 100,000, but may decrease to maybe more like 70, 80,000, so, just keep this in mind, and you might change your opinion! Also great video as always! I stopped watching 2 years ago because I felt the videos were out of my interest, and because you stopped uploading to the Main channel, but now, I have started watching again, and I have to say, the videos have gotten a lot better!
And then you get the Foundation Series, and my Cyberbeast is gonna cost $120k 😮
YES!! You should get one!! Are the cybertrucks you bought coming? I still remember the video seeing How many cybertrucks you can buy
I agree. I have low rsv number. Very disappointed on specs. I've been waiting 4 years for this. My X has 345 so I'm not losing range but was also hoping for more.
I suspect in a little while, people will warm up to the CT again once they realize the true advantages. Tough, range still decent and features. Price is truly the only negative and that too will get better.
FINALLY A TESLA VID. we haven’t seen one in so long
Even though many people don't like tge design i personally love tge design and the matt black looks really good its design makes it stands out and its out of the box which is really cool
4:42 love that channel @Gjeebs is such great guy, with great Tesla content
I’m very happy you brought up the 10% degradation in the first few years. This is the reality no one talks about. 500 mile range is basically 8 hours of straight driving with no stops. You could argue 6 hours and that’s still a long time. I have a Model 3 with 280 miles of range (after 5 years) and we road trip a bunch. Supercharging is not a bad deal. We have the opportunity to go to the bathroom every 3-4 hours. A 320 mile range is low, but it’s a “beast” of a truck. They have to add a range extender battery in the bed because there’s likely no room elsewhere. The hype is high. If you have a reservation to get an early model, get it. If not, wait it out. Well, start hearing much more about it in the next 6 months. I’m guessing many will complain about range, but how many people drive over 100 miles daily? Not many. The other concern is towing. My opinion is any EV truck is not worthy of towing. Not enough range for that. And in America, how many truck owners actually have a hitch ball and tow?
Loved that you go photo bombed by GJeebs at 4:44! 🤣... His RUclips channel is awesome!!
I want the range too. We drive twice a year to our vacation home in Calif from Denver. We stop twice now for fuel and were hoping to only have to charge twice. The other thing I want is a pass through to the back with the cover rolled to security (up? down"). I want to put dog beds back there and have them come into the cab only occasionally. By the time my reservation comes up (300,000) I'm hoping that the price drops a little and maybe they will have upgraded their batteries.
Glad your not negative about it, I really want one, keeping my order.
The price should not have gone up $30,000.
Battery costs are down, Tesla does not have union problems. They never had the chip problem that other manufactures had. 800 V is supposed to save money. No paint is supposed to save money.
The ironic thing... there was an ad for a Ford Lightning before the video started. (for me, of course)
This is only the beginning! In 5 years we should have the cybertruck we were promised.
That's what I'm hoping. I'll probably go ahead and buy the mid-level with a range extender but I'm not happy about it.
@@jemezname2259 i get it, but some of us have to bite the bullet and buy the first ones so the next ones will come!
The chairs are very comfortable. Nice meeting you.
Nice to meet you also
Nothing can compare. Awesome
Having to convince yourself that you like it when you know everything else is better , less expensive, more bells and whistles in standard without having to spend more money upgrading, overly concerned about speed instead of practical use, no talk at all about maintenance expenses when they come around, and when it reaches more than 2 years old you're either stuck with a brick or have to dish out more money to keep it going, etc.... Sounds like I'm talking about Apple.
If you add the range extender and you consider just how fast it will now charge once V4s are using 800Volts at 350kW. Stopping for 20 minutes every 350 miles is pretty darn impressive compared to how often you have to stop now.
I think the 800volt battery and 48volt system is a great step forward reducing wiring etc and increasing speed of charge on the right chargers
They building a highspeed rail line from vegas to la its called brightline west.
AWD version specs are actually much better aside from price. Average vehicle price has increased $12k in 4 years. With the $7,500 discount that brings the AWD version down to $63,500 only $1500 off the original listing price when adjusted for inflation.
Range just killed my discussion to buy the cybertruck. It have to at least have 400 plus range in the three motor version.
The Cybertruck looks futuristic, like from the year 2100!
Haven't watched the video yet, but YES.
I think that Range extender is too expensive, It should be like 10 grand max. I think with Time the price of the truck will probably drop like 10 grand and they will improve the battery density so the Dual motor might get at least 400 miles of range and like 550 with the range extender. Overall I feel that its an awesome Truck, just the safety of it and toughness and the Gigantic frame and air suspension. I like it.
It should be a 5-7k option. Or included in the beast model when the beast is already 30k more than the other model.
If and when they improve the battery chemistry, I feel like they would rather make the battery pack smaller, thus lowering weight and increasing efficiency while decreasing the cost, rather than increasing range a substantial amount.
I was bummed about the range issue. Think I'll get an S until the range increases on the Cybertruck. I do have high hopes for Tesla to eventually get the range increased
If batteries improve by a lot, Tesla will probably just shrink the battery pack to improve efficiency and lower the cost, believing the range is good enough for the vast majority of customers. And they’ll continue to improve the supercharging network so hopefully it won’t matter much anymore.
Lucid can now charge via Tesla superchargers.
Not yet it cant.
I've seen quite a few people with that cyber looking backpack at the factory. It looks cool.
A refrigerator on the move! lol
Imagine looking your own refrigerator at the parking lot, looking all the same. lol ha ha ha...
The cybertruck makes a very strong statement, much like g-wagons and hummers, and I feel like Dan is too nice and humble for the Cybertruck to be on-brand for him.
Thank you for your kind comment:)
Hey :) I have been reading a lot about the truck, and most of my thoughts are yes get one! There are of course some things that are a no! But I especially like the mid range one, I think 0-60 in under 3 seconds is too fast for a truck haha! But all in all I say go for it. If you like it and can see yourself utilizing it, I’m sure you will though with the new house:)
Thanks for sharing!
Yesssss. If I could get a tri motor then I would haha 😂 Fun for around town and taking to the mtns nearby. Would be a blast 👍
All specs are better than the competition, that's what's important.
Range is not better
Love everything about this truck. Especially the fact that it looks like a Cyberbackpack😅
I think once everyone switches to NACS, range won’t be such an issue. If Bi directional charging works seamlessly that in it self is a major feature going forward. Also In an accident I would want to be in anything else.
the range is definitely the killer for me, 1. you would lose range in about a year; 2. charging up to 80% is better for the battery longevity; 3. What is the point of having a unremovable range extender that takes up 1/3 of the bed size.
Thanks for being honest
Then only range miss was the Tri motor. The RWD is 250 miles like they claimed at original launch and the AWD is actually better at 340 miles vs the 300 they said at launch. The 0-60 are quicker on the AWD and Tri than originally stated.
As somebody that has grown up with trucks being used as intended carrying cargo in the bed, that range extender is very disappointing. You go from having a 6 foot bed to 4ft, can't even safely transport 12 ft boards. Whereas with the midgate on the Silverado EV you can safely transport 16 ft no problem. With all these manufacturers making EV trucks it'll be healthy competition, I feel like in a couple of years we'll have a good selection of EV Trucks.
I've been waiting for it I oust to watch you guys
Here’s my thoughts. There shouldn’t be any complaints about this truck at this point. The people that can afford it and don’t want to wait can take delivery in the next two years. The price will eventually go down, and everyone else can get theres.
The issue is that range struggles if you actually tow. I leased a Nissan while waiting and they are still deleting the towing package. I want a truck not a truck shaped object.
Should expect this to be version 1 of the range extender, there could be more.
340 max range on the dual motor doesn't really make sense for a truck. The thing with the battery pack addition doesn't really feel better because the range will be less due to the weight addition. Also towing will drain it quickly. Big miss in my opinion, especially with price.
It would be a cool police car. Bulletproof, fast and intimidating.
they should've instead of using just a normal shutter for the truck bed they should've made it out of 8kw solar panels (as an option) so help maximise the range to at least over 500 miles. if NIO makes a truck I'm afraid it could outsell the Cybertruck as NIO has already designed a car with over 1000KMs of range (580 miles range).
Can’t wait to see the towing tests
You should get this car it is literally a BEAST
🎉😂love the other creators too, hello to out of spec studios 🤣💜
We are getting much more truck. than originally presented. Drive by wire, all wheel steering alone justify the price change. My plan is to stay with the dual motor and use the sell both my car and truck plus cash to bring the price down to something justifiable. This will be my primary vehicle and my work vehicle.
Sure !
I answer Question with a Followup question. What other truck did you own that has a turning radius of a Sedan?
I haven't owned it, but the Hummer EV I've driven many times and it has a turning radius of a sedan, it is super cool. My father in law 20 years ago had a GMC Denali and it has rear steering and also turned like a sedan. great feature I wish more trucks had.
Is it fair to say that what you mean by specs (plural) is your beef with range (singular)? That range is not even terrible. But I agree that we should be seeing more range with their new 4680 cells.
4680 is rge best but it's not easy carrying an armored shell. Nrver mind it's only 123 kilowatt hour. Pretty small
People need to consider that Tesla needs to consider battery supply with the volume they manufacture, other legacy don’t really need to think of at this time with the low volume they manufacture
What if Lucid had cats that used Tesla chargers? That may be coming..
Didnt u use all of ur credit cards to preorder like a 100 cybertrucks?
50...yes. haha
@@WHATSINSIDEFAMILY oh uh sorry I forgot it's been 4 years been watching u guys since I was like 10
Honestly I knew the price was gonna go up but the range was huge miss for me, like cmon and having to pay an extra 16k for my range but losing bed space isnt worth it
think the batteries are going to be better than you anticipate, they will be conservative on initial specs, I think that they are going to offer range updates.
That would be nice
I thought you ordered one. If you didn’t you should 100% buy it!
Ur Mr Dan from what's inside obviously there should be no question wether u should buy it
... too many reasons why these really are the *Affluent Tool-Box*
Lmao do a whats inside my college if you wanna 😂😂
love your vids
I think your impressions was a little off. Sadly I think with the current battery tech, Tesla probably had to balance the price verses the range. Increase range means increased price and weight. If they were shooting for the federal tax credit then it had to come in under 80,000 for most of the trucks sold. The range extender to me is a little bit of a cop out. But I guess whatever works. But I think with the new tech in this truck, Tesla’s next and updated vehicles could easily go over the 500 mile range mark.
you known the salt ring hack if you put around a model y that means is broken when you put shaving cream it goes on party mode.
If the range extender can double as a power wall while it sits in your garage waiting for the next big road trip. That would be better option than a 500mile battery in the truck.
Just need to install a 1ton crane in garage to lift it.. 😂😂😂