Cutera Excel V laser (KTP) 3 hours post-treatment | Rosacea

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @lucyjames8818
    @lucyjames8818 3 года назад +4

    You face looks so much better than the first vid of you. I’m so thankful to see you better. For me, I don’t think I can risk myself getting a laser and pass the hard times. I don’t think I’m mentally ready

  • @michtnic4886
    @michtnic4886 3 года назад +5

    Hello Daren, I had exactly the same experience :
    - mirvaso damage in late 2016 with rebound
    - purpuric laser treatment in mid 2017 that increased the number of visible blood vessels, I experienced fat loss under my eyes after this operation, with patchy red patterns on my skin
    - vbeam perfecta non purpuric operation in mid 2018 that produced even more blood vessels
    To sum up, all these things worsened my situation and my skin is really damaged from mirvaso/lasers

    • @JuliaRaar
      @JuliaRaar 2 года назад

      Hey! How are you doing today ? What has / hasn’t helped ?

    • @lapetite8847
      @lapetite8847 Год назад

      I am experiencing the same symptoms ... So you go for a procedure that costs an absolute fortune & here i am watching my face flush & look sunburnt one month after my 3rd treatment ... Also i have noticed that i have demarcation marks of uneven skin tone ... they look like blotchy little maps where the edges are red ... No one tells you this any of this before you head on in thinking all its going to do it help my uneven skin tone / flushing which has made it far worse ... nightmare

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад +2

      It’s absolutely infuriating isn’t it? I can manage the symptoms, but doing so is hard work and it feels like I’m micromanaging every aspect of my life just to stop from flushing.
      I’ve tried to explain these things to people who know me but they either don’t care or think I’m making it up because “you look fine”. I often use tinted sunscreens to hide the redness as well as taking medications to prevent flushing. The damage is very real and for me it all started with Mirvaso.
      If it hadn’t been for Mirvaso I might have been able to have laser in a more proactive way instead of using it to try and I do rebound redness

    • @gigachad8313
      @gigachad8313 Год назад

      ​@@recoveringfromredness9343Hi, would it be possible to contact you privately to ask you some questions about the ktp laser and the situation you had with rosacea? cause i suffer from the same thing and since i'm trying to decide what laser i should get i would like a suggestion about someone who had some experience with it, plus it's good to confront someone who have a severe misunderstood "disease" like this.

    • @carlyquinn7133
      @carlyquinn7133 11 месяцев назад

      Darren, I’m experiencing major rebound from Rhofade, do you have social media like Instagram or Facebook or an email?

  • @DTowns19
    @DTowns19 3 года назад +2

    Darren, your face looks far better than when I first followed you! I had a failed KTP/Nd yag on my skin. It makes me flush bad now in places I didn’t before. I’m opting for Botox next from a doctor in NY who specializes in micro Botox for flushing

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад

      The KTP never helped and the clinic that did it shouldn’t even be in business in my opinion! I’m pretty pissed off with the whole experience and it was foolish of me to trust a business that I could see had hundreds of fake reviews.
      I was just so desperate to get relief. By the way, in some of the videos that you’ve seen I am flushing, and sometimes I’m not, so it’s really hard for anyone to judge what is “better”.
      I’ve had clinics literally tell me there’s nothing wrong with me and nothing to treat. They can’t understand that the flushing is the real problem

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад +1

      The KTP never helped and the clinic that did it shouldn’t even be in business in my opinion! I’m pretty pissed off with the whole experience and it was foolish of me to trust a business that I could see had hundreds of fake reviews.
      I was just so desperate to get relief. By the way, in some of the videos that you’ve seen I am flushing, and sometimes I’m not, so it’s really hard for anyone to judge what is “better”.
      I’ve had clinics literally tell me there’s nothing wrong with me and nothing to treat. They can’t understand that the flushing is the real problem

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад

      The KTP never helped and the clinic that did it shouldn’t even be in business in my opinion! I’m pretty pissed off with the whole experience and it was foolish of me to trust a business that I could see had hundreds of fake reviews.
      I was just so desperate to get relief. By the way, in some of the videos that you’ve seen I am flushing, and sometimes I’m not, so it’s really hard for anyone to judge what is “better”.
      I’ve had clinics literally tell me there’s nothing wrong with me and nothing to treat. They can’t understand that the flushing is the real problem

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад

      The KTP never helped and the clinic that did it shouldn’t even be in business in my opinion! I’m pretty pissed off with the whole experience and it was foolish of me to trust a business that I could see had hundreds of fake reviews.
      I was just so desperate to get relief. By the way, in some of the videos that you’ve seen I am flushing, and sometimes I’m not, so it’s really hard for anyone to judge what is “better”.
      I’ve had clinics literally tell me there’s nothing wrong with me and nothing to treat. They can’t understand that the flushing is the real problem

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад

      The KTP never helped and the clinic that did it shouldn’t even be in business in my opinion! I’m pretty pissed off with the whole experience and it was foolish of me to trust a business that I could see had hundreds of fake reviews.
      I was just so desperate to get relief. By the way, in some of the videos that you’ve seen I am flushing, and sometimes I’m not, so it’s really hard for anyone to judge what is “better”.
      I’ve had clinics literally tell me there’s nothing wrong with me and nothing to treat. They can’t understand that the flushing is the real problem

  • @rema439
    @rema439 Год назад +2

    How are you now? Wish you the best!

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  11 дней назад

      @@rema439 a bit better I think. I had my last Vbeam session in Jan 2024. In that particular series of treatments it was treatment number 5. Since 2017 I’ve had about ten Vbeams, ten IPLs and two KTPs. Only minor improvement. Lot of useless providers out there

  • @lapetite8847
    @lapetite8847 Год назад +1

    Hi Darren, Would love to see /know if you have any updates re: Excel V laser

  • @hava1715
    @hava1715 2 года назад +1

    Please give us an update, there’s so little videos and follow up videos on this topic you were very good at showing your journey

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад +3

      To be honest, I got sick and tired of documenting the process as it wasn’t working. My first couple of treatments were ok and looked promising but then things got worse and no treatments were working.
      I started Vbeam again recently after not being able to find a clinic that does it for a long time. I have to travel a long way to the clinic I go to now and I’m still not sure if it’s helping

    • @ChrisC-vv2dc
      @ChrisC-vv2dc 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@recoveringfromredness9343Any update?

  • @w33dwalker
    @w33dwalker 3 года назад +1

    Hello, it's been three months since the making of this video. I'm curious, how does your skin look now? are you happy with the overall results of Vbeam? I have an appointment soon and really hope it'll get rid of some redness.

  • @EmmaB101
    @EmmaB101 4 месяца назад

    I hope you are well! Thank you for the interesting videos. Maybe one day you will feel up to updating your progress again 😇

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  11 дней назад

      @@EmmaB101 yeah I hope to do that soon - an update, with my current skincare regime. Exfoliating might be helping me but I was always afraid to do it because of it making me much worse in the past

  • @stefaniebaum6737
    @stefaniebaum6737 3 года назад +2

    Dear Darren, im from germany and I have tried Mirvaso, too. I have used it for 4 days on my nose only. Afer this 4 days I recognized the baseline redness was really worse than before. How do you feel today? Would you say you have reaced the baseline again or even better? Can you please give a list as summary of what you did for recovering from redness? Thank you in advance :-)

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад +1

      Hello. First, I’m sorry that you were prescribed Mirvaso. I have never recovered properly from the rebounds I experienced and the worsened baseline redness.
      I used and still use propranolol to help reduce flushing but not as often I used to. Azelaic acid and Vitamin C products may be helping me.
      I’m in the process of getting more Vbeam which includes treatments on my ears, which always had the worse redness and rebound with a lot of pain too.

  • @sarahcoughlan1191
    @sarahcoughlan1191 2 года назад +2

    Hi what treatment do you recommend for roascea? you have a lot of experience. I’m very nervous to get laser. My roascea is mild and I don’t want it to get worse.

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад +1

      You could start with Azelaic acid and then introduce a diluted ascorbic acid (Vit C) slowly. That might do the trick. Take it slow, do research, and don’t be fooled into spending a fortune on products my people working at clinics pushing fad solutions.
      The Ordinary is a good place to start for skincare.

  • @blankedidentity
    @blankedidentity 3 года назад +2

    May I suggest you take a look at Dr Nathan Holt, at the Cambridge laser clinic. He’s completed something like 100,000 treatments and been specialising in laser nearly 20 years. I’ve had my first PDL and his approach is quite different from the mainstream approach of purpuric focussed treatments. He doesn’t charge for a consult - and in general his pricing is the most reasonable I’ve seen.

    • @Jessica-kg1sr
      @Jessica-kg1sr 2 года назад

      Where is this doctor?

    • @JuliaRaar
      @JuliaRaar 2 года назад

      Different meaning he doesn’t go for the purpuric setting ? Or does he

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад

      I saw his website recently, so I’m curious.
      I assume he’s using the Prima? How many passes is he using? He’ll be using two different pulse width settings, which is what Dr Maddan in Manchester has been doing for me.
      Take notes and ask questions when you’re in the clinic

    • @ChrisC-vv2dc
      @ChrisC-vv2dc 10 месяцев назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343hello did you get any results from this time round? I heard you get better/faster results with bruising?

    • @ChrisC-vv2dc
      @ChrisC-vv2dc 10 месяцев назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343did you get any results with this doctor and primary care?

  • @devu8754
    @devu8754 2 года назад +1

    After each treatment of vbeam pdl ..how many days downtime u had each time to get same skin color as before the treatment

  • @HostaMahogey
    @HostaMahogey 2 месяца назад

    Have you tried Carvedilol or another beta blocker?

  • @kurtl.7214
    @kurtl.7214 3 года назад

    Dear Darren, may I ask how many clinics/dermatologists you have consulted? - As for me (I have Rosacea with pustules and teleangactasias (probably incorrectly spelled-> sorry about my „Genglish“) it took me more than 10 -15 dermatologists and years to find the right one/ones ...). Maybe it could help you to get another dermatologist‘s view whether KTP/V-beam is generally the Right treatment for your flushing-. that would at least be my approach in your Situation. And that is also what I regularly do when I am unsatisfied with the current treatment or when I have doubts about the prescription. - Hope you will be better soon!

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад

      I’ve been to lots of clinics. It’s painful trying to find someone who actually knows what they’re doing as opposed to someone who boasts and markets theirselves in a certain way.
      I’ve been to 8 clinics so far and had treatments at 7. Still trying to get relief from this and I’m increasingly sick and tired of people lecturing me about what is or isn’t wrong with me, whether it’s these “professionals” or even relatives who think I’m exaggerating.

    • @kurtl.7214
      @kurtl.7214 7 дней назад

      For flushing a rather new treatment (botox) is more and more often reported on. Maybe that could be an Option?

  • @philipp2752
    @philipp2752 3 года назад +1

    I have read that mirvaso side effects lead to histamine accumulation in the skin. Maybe you can do something against the histamine in your skin to relieve the condition? I suffer from that problem too. I would be happy if you answer me

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  3 года назад

      I have never heard of histamine accumulation in the skin, so if you could link me to your sources that would be great. I do eat bananas and avocados daily which are histamine containing, but which do not seem to cause any ill effects.

    • @philipp2752
      @philipp2752 3 года назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343 link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00105-015-3735-5
      It's German and a training reading for dermatologists.
      Here you have to download the PDF for free and on page 76-77 under "Brimonidin" it is written under side effects that it can lead to local histamine accumulation. Exactly this was my theory before i even have read this article. What do you think about this? I have also information of an action to let the histamine in the cells vanish but i won't write it here because some people might overdo it and take it to seriously.

    • @philipp2752
      @philipp2752 3 года назад

      You can text me on PM if you want. I would like to discuss this theory

    • @philipp2752
      @philipp2752 3 года назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343 hey you still there?

  • @bvokey8842
    @bvokey8842 3 года назад

    Are you against using oils? If not, look into Tamanu oil. It’s natural, cheap, and works pretty well for my flushing rosacea compared to everything else I’ve tried.

  • @suneetapammnani2100
    @suneetapammnani2100 3 года назад

    I have two questions for you
    1- is mirvaso rebound completely gone now ???
    2- does sun still causes your skin to burn ??

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  3 года назад +2

      1- no, not completely. My right ear often burns and flushes red. This is normally in a room that is artificially heated, especially in winter here in the UK
      2- the sun has never been an issue for me, and I wear high SPF

  • @sh0werp0wer
    @sh0werp0wer 2 года назад

    Any updates? Also I share your frustration with bad clinics, went to one today and it was totally a "I know more than you, I just need your laser" type of feeling - they also tried to push products on me, even though I said I've had this for 6 years (a reddish "scar") and no products help anything permanently.

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  11 дней назад

      @@sh0werp0wer they are like a hammer looking for a nail. Hate those kinds of clinics. Greedy fuckers

  • @kimberleydee3426
    @kimberleydee3426 3 года назад +1

    My ears do this too after mirvaso I honestly believe this has done deeper damage than just our blood vessels more like nerve damage, this is the route I’m going down as I’ve had several laser sessions post mirvaso which have all helped reduce redness but not the debilitating flushing and pain which I never had previously. It’s just awful that 3-4 years on we are still suffering the consequences of this disgusting product.

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  3 года назад +1

      Yes! Mine too! Especially my right ear! I never applied Mirvaso to my ears, only to my face in the classic butterfly flushing pattern areas... and yet the effects of the medication must have had a kind of domino effect.

    • @meghans.6278
      @meghans.6278 3 года назад

      Kimberley, i had the exact same reaction to mirvaso. my facial flushing has become debilitating. What type of laser treatment did you get. my new dermatologist has tried several medications but i'm looking at laser and the type i should b looking at. what has helped you...ipl, pdl?

    • @elieldar5714
      @elieldar5714 2 года назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343 which one is more effective PDL or KTP ?

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад

      By the way, I’ve been having Vbeam not only on my face but on my ears. This was a first for me and the derm who treats me suggested it when he witnessed me having a severe flush. He also knows all about Mirvaso and could see for himself what it was doing to the vasculature of my face and ears.

  • @aleksandraperisic5995
    @aleksandraperisic5995 3 года назад

    Hey how are you? How is everything now? Please update us on your progress !

  • @alexandrosalex8894
    @alexandrosalex8894 3 года назад

    Hi Darren!How many treatments you did with vbeam for these results?

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  Год назад

      3 full face treatments, 1 on the nose.
      The third treatment of Vbeam made things worse, and I’ve started up Vbeam again recently using gentler settings.
      No difference at the moment but I’m just recovering from treatment number 2 (it’s been 4 weeks) with another treatment in about 2 weeks.

    • @elettramia6380
      @elettramia6380 9 месяцев назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343do you know why the 3rd treatment made things worse? Did your doctor explain it? Btw your skin looks great, good on you 👍

  • @sofia0060
    @sofia0060 16 дней назад

    does vbeam cause facial fat loss? Ive noticed it Im so depressed Im only 24. What settings did you use please?

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  11 дней назад

      @@sofia0060 I’ve heard of it and I’m also worried about that. If that’s actually happened, I’m so sorry. I know how psychologically damaging and disturbing these skin problems are. People think we exaggerate about it but they’re not the ones with our problems. I sometimes wonder if I’ve had fat loss on my skin too. It’s hard to say.
      I’ve gained a bit of weight over the last few years so my face has filled out a bit. What I have been doing is using LED (near infrared) to repair skin lines and wrinkles, and try to improve collagen and elastin. Hopefully it will improve any depressions that might be on my face. I asked a few derms about fat loss but they say it doesn’t happen.

  • @tomdavid3876
    @tomdavid3876 4 месяца назад

    Are you going to dermatologists or laser clinics?

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  11 дней назад

      @@tomdavid3876 it’s a skin clinic with a dermatologist. I’ll tell you about that in the next update

  • @franklaing-fi9li
    @franklaing-fi9li Год назад +1

    Would you recommend IPL over Vbeam?

  • @antonyarcuri3362
    @antonyarcuri3362 3 года назад

    Darren, how's progress?

  • @suneetapammnani2100
    @suneetapammnani2100 Год назад +1

    Hi. How are you doing now??

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  11 дней назад

      @@suneetapammnani2100 not too bad. I still use medications to help control the redness and flushing. Had my last Vbeam in Jan 2024. Hope to start again in Jan 2025

  • @emilkgfilev2812
    @emilkgfilev2812 3 года назад +1

    Darren can you share please how was tune KTP laser. I mean J/cm2, pulse time...

  • @sidrabibi4854
    @sidrabibi4854 3 года назад +1

    Sir apki redness completely finish hui

  • @samantha9313
    @samantha9313 3 года назад

    Did you get compensation for the pulse dye laser...

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  3 года назад +1

      Nah. I have not even pursued a complaint. When you have these treatments, you are normally ask to sign something waiving any liability claims. Besides, I think it was a nasty reaction to a topical product well after the PDL in Nov 2019 that caused the setback.

  • @HhSjs3738
    @HhSjs3738 2 года назад

    Update on the excel v? I'm a flusher too

  • @deanjones1334
    @deanjones1334 3 года назад

    Are laser treatments a waste of time or have you actually seen any improvement? I’ve got my I first ipl treatment this month in two minds wether it’s going to work or not I also have flushing from hoot rooms

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  3 года назад +1

      I have seen improvement. My face used to be very unstable due to Mirvaso. I've had numerous lasers on my face and yet my ears still flush, which started happening because of Mirvaso. I've had no laser on my ears and yet they still do flush hot and red in hot rooms. or even in normally rooms if I've been out in freezing weather.
      Evidentally, the laser seems to have helped my face quite a bit, even if the Nov 2019 PDL didn't heal right and was a setback.

  • @ivxv1
    @ivxv1 12 дней назад

    Almost 4 years and no updates…

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  11 дней назад +1

      @@ivxv1 I’ve had more laser treatment since… but still, my skin isn’t quite right. Perhaps I’ll do an update next week. I plan to get more Vbeam, but honestly, I just got fed up of making videos about it because I wasn’t convinced that it was helping.

    • @ivxv1
      @ivxv1 11 дней назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343 should definitely keep making videos. Even if you don’t think it’s worth it, you could be helping a lot of others out there. No one else really on RUclips has documented this kind of thing.
      I discovered your channel around when this video was posted. I come back every so often out of interest, even tho my rosacea problems are 90% gone.

    • @ivxv1
      @ivxv1 11 дней назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343 please keep making more :)

  • @LuizOliveira-rl6gv
    @LuizOliveira-rl6gv 3 года назад +1

    does this laser damage your beard follicles?

  • @talksick508
    @talksick508 3 года назад

    Need lasers my skins always rashy red sensitive super dry since accutane

  • @sidrabibi4854
    @sidrabibi4854 3 года назад

    I have a veins and redness on my cheeks so I am in tention plz suggest me what I do?

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  3 года назад

      Wear sunscreen if out during daylight. Consider LED yellow light machine. I bought mine from Amazon. £85 with three LED panels that I lay under every day for one hour. It is worth a try. It might help with redness. For visible veins (telangiectasia) you may need laser.

    • @sidrabibi4854
      @sidrabibi4854 3 года назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343 your redness completely finish?

    • @sidrabibi4854
      @sidrabibi4854 3 года назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343 I had v beam laser 4th session but no improvement still I have redness

  • @ChrisC-vv2dc
    @ChrisC-vv2dc Месяц назад

    Any updates???

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  11 дней назад +1

      @@ChrisC-vv2dc I will update in the next few weeks

    • @ChrisC-vv2dc
      @ChrisC-vv2dc 11 дней назад

      @@recoveringfromredness9343 thank you for your reply. Look forward to the update. I was concerned wouldn’t hear from you. Do you have any socials or somewhere where I can message you/ DM?

  • @isla8718
    @isla8718 3 года назад

    U could always wear a Mac powder and Mac foundation 😆 if I was a man I would , my brother wears it aswell if I didn't wear it I'd be self conscious 24/7 but I think your skin looks fine now I wouldn't clock you as being red just normal the laser worked for me but as soon as I stopped with the sunblock it came back but never as bad . X

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  3 года назад +2

      Just to clarify - I'm a severe flusher when in hot rooms. My face gets scarlet when I get hot and the heat and pain is unbearable. Hoping this treatment lessens some of that.

  • @imadtonton7593
    @imadtonton7593 3 года назад

    I can talk with you ???

  • @saltypopcorn2708
    @saltypopcorn2708 3 года назад

    I would avoid that clinic like covid.
    It sounds like it uses aestheticians and maybe the occasional nurse. No doctors involved in the clinic.
    This is how inexperienced staff cause burns and scarring, which cause life long suffering.
    I have heard good things about dr nathan holt at Cambridge laser clinic , but that's a long journey for you.
    Hope things get better.

    • @sh0werp0wer
      @sh0werp0wer 2 года назад

      Unfortunately there are dermatologists who are clueless as well, especially when it comes to cosmetic dermatology. I've literally had derms who know less than me about my specific problem. They know how to diagnose skin conditions and prescribe creams and pills but that's just about it.

    • @recoveringfromredness9343
      @recoveringfromredness9343  11 дней назад

      @@saltypopcorn2708 I’ve heard of Dr Holt. It’s a journey yes, but possibly worth it