The first M 1894 Winchester lever action rifle and the 38-55 cartridge
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2023
- The Model 1894 Winchester rifle is an icon. It is less known that is started its career as a rifle shooting black powder cartridges. Learn the history of John Moses Browning's excellent design and the 38-55 cartridge while I burn some powder testing the faithful Uberti replicating exactly this first model. 50-300 m shooting, ballistics, accuracy, joy. :)
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When your face lights up after a hit on a long shot says it all…….makes me smile as well. Another top notch video!!! Thank you!
Well said, that's what I love about these videos specifically, and just the whole relaxed, traditional feel.
very nice rifle. good showing of this caliber.
i have an original Winchester in 38-55, granted not in nice condition as yours, but grandfather had it many years before me.
i do have a very old ideal hand loader for this rifle. its still very satisfying to shoot it at the range. thank you for your showing of this fine rifle and its caliber
Ideal hand loaders do a great job
I love how you can see the bullet drop down to the 300 meter gong. Excellent video as always.
Yet another quality presentation.
Just what one would expect from you!
A long range shot delay and then resounding ring of a hit always brings a smile to all shooters!
I really enjoyed this, it brought back memories. I was visiting my uncle during the summer of 04 and talking with one of his elderly neighbours who introduced me to the .38-55. He has all the components and introduced me to reloading.
I tried my hand at it, he had cast lead bullets he made and the primers he had were bought in 1971. I used that 1894 Winchester reloading tool.
I love this guy and his videos. Each one is entertaining, informative, and enjoyable.
Love my deluxe Winchester 1894 in .38-55. The accuracy is amazing! This year it will be used to hunt black bear, mountain goat and deer here in Alaska with Buffalo Bore smokeless cartridges. Will start loading cast bullets in 255 and 300 gr. with the spent brass…also have old .30-30 brass for fire forming. Keep up the great in-depth coverage!💥👏
I love watcing your videos! This is probably one of my top ten favvorite videos that you have done.
Shooting a half-meter target at 300m offhand is quite a feet. Thank you for good and wholesome content that teaches virtue, character, and excellence. God-bless 🤠
Excellent detailed video. I have several 1894 Winchesters, and they are all great to shoot.
The 38-55 has always been a favourite of mine. Another great video good sir.
The transit time at 330 yards is about a second and a half. An old friend of mine when I was a kid homesteaded in a valley just north of my dad's ranch around 1900. He was well into his 80s when I met him. He had an original Winchester Model 1886 in 45-70, which he hunted with every year and always got his buck. You could see that great huge bullet fly to target, once the smoke cleared of course. In the 1930s, the Feds were trying to seize as many of the old black powder rifles as they could, with the rationale that they were not safe to shoot smokeless powder ammunition. Old George loaded his own of course, and refused, although he did offer to give them some of what he had loaded in the tubular magazine of the rifle. They declined the offer and never came back. 30 years later, he let me shoot it from his back porch. Knowing old George Cook the way I did, I believed every word of that story. What a guy, and what a rifle!
A wonderful video. your videos are so relaxing to watch and listen to. I really enjoy your production quality and style,, Narration is hypnotic. Thanks.
As always, thorough presentation in detail and history. And great shooting. 😉
Great video. The history behind the 94 Winchester was educational. Thank you.
Those 300 meter shots looked slow enough to dodge. Fun video. I don't shoot black powder, but I love the look and design of the model 1894, (well, actually anything designed by John Browning) and have a much later version (circa 1950) of that rifle chambered in Win. .30-30 (which is the same as .30 WCF.)
Beautiful work, Cap!
Outstanding! I just bought one of those last week!! This review is much appreciated.
Congratulations. How do you like yours? How is the action?
Thank you for the most informative review!
Great video as always.
Beautiful rifle, awesome caliber. My 1894 has no finish left, but is in sound mechanical condition with a bright, crisp bore. Looks like it was carried a LOT, but shot very little. It was manufactured in 1900. Thanks for the video!
Only if Winchester could make their own rifle properly. Thank you Uberti! I just ordered a Uberti made SA Army 45LC 7th cavalry revolver. Now comes the wait.
Uma arma muito eficiente...parabéns 🇧🇷👏👏...feliz ano novo!!
Awesome as usual man love this channel
I wonder if people back then had the same arguments about different cartridge types that we do.
-"you're still on 38-55? 45-70 has a flatter trajectory!"
-"that's just army hogwash and you know it, Bill."
Excellent video!
Beautiful rifle. And a very good video.
arguably one of the greatest rifles ever made and one of the most underrated cartridges ever made, I own and love my Winchester 94 Legendary Frontiersman
Neighbor had an 1894 big bore in .375 Winchester, a modernized .38-55. Super rifle for brush hunting. Light, powerful, handy.
Love your history classes
Hi from France, happy new year . Thanks for your videos too . When I see the 38-55, I think about the 350 Legend (Henry rifles) .
Great video, as always!
Thank you for a very informative video about the 1894 Winchester rifle and the venerable 38-55 cartridge. I shoot black powder occasionally though I must admit I mostly shoot safe and moderate charges of smokeless powder. I love the older black powder rifles, shotguns , and pistols. There is a quality about them that makes them beautiful or maybe graceful, as well as historical.
I just completed a conversion to a replica Colt 1860 army that allows me to shoot .45 Colt cartridges and yet retain the ability to switch back to the cap and ball cylinder for the best of both worlds. The manufacturer accomplished this by designing a two step cylinder hand that allows timing between the 6 shot cap and ball cylinder, and the 5 shot cartridge conversion cylinder. Maybe one day if you ever obtain one you could do a video on cap and ball conversions as they are historical transitions from powder and ball to cartridges. Your videos (all of them) are very well presented.
Great video. Well done.
Another awesome video, thank you, sir.
Very nice rifle and as usual I really enjoyed your video
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Beautiful Riffle you got there.
I remember Winchester came out with another cartridge based on the 38-55, the following was found on line and explains what not to do with these 2 cartridges.
.375 Winchester (Using Sierra Bullets)
Author: Brian Pearce / Wolfe Publishing Co.
Date: Apr 30 2015
Notes from the Lab: .375 Winchester (Using Sierra Bullets)
The .375 Winchester was announced in 1978 in a Winchester Model 94XTP Big Bore lever-action carbine that featured increased steel in the rear quarter of the receiver to handle the greater head thrust and chamber pressures associated with this cartridge. Soon Ruger offered its No. 3 single shot, Thompson/Center Arms its Contender, Marlin the Model 375 lever gun and Savage its Model 99. Two loads were initially offered: a 200-grain bullet at 2,200 fps, or a 250-grain at 1,900 fps. Winchester’s idea was to offer hunters a more powerful option for its most popular sporting rifle.
The .375 Winchester case is shorter than the old .38-55 WCF and much thicker for increased strength. The .375 utilizes .375-inch bullets, while current Winchester factory loads for the .38-55 measure .377 inch (not to mention that groove diameter for this cartridge varies from .376 to .381 inch). Furthermore, the .375 Winchester operates at 52,000 CUP pressure, while maximum average pressure for the .38-55 is 28,000 CUP, with factory loads being significantly below that figure. Regardless of rumors, the two cartridges should not be interchanged, which may prove unsafe.
Using the Sierra 200-grain flat point bullet, highest velocities were achieved with IMR-4198 and Alliant Reloder 7. Very little changes in accuracy occurred using loads with each of the powders listed in the accompanying data; however, Hodgdon H-322 recorded the single tightest group.
When handloading for the Winchester Model 94XTR, cases should be full-length sized, then the case mouth expanded just enough to accept bullets. After seating bullets to the upper edge of the cannelure, a heavy roll crimp should be applied.
Thank you for the info. I own a Model 94 in 375 win. I have not tried to use 38-55 ammo in it. I do wish I could find affordable ammo for my rifle.
@@jamesschwamberger7958 i just shot a Winchester 255 grain 38/55 round in my BB .375. It only hit 1,090 fps on the chrono.
The factory 200 grain .375 ammo from HSM hit 2,365 fps.
I feel your pain on finding ammo for it. That's why i got a box of 38/55 to try.
Really fun video. You can SHOOT, Son! Thoroughly wonderful to watch. Thank you.
John Moses Browning was a firearm genius!
Awesome video excellent information clean accurate presentation!
Great video on a great Browning design! I have a modern Win. 94 in 30/30, very accurate with a receiver peep sight. I have always wanted an old style 94 with a 24” or 26” octagon barrel, and the heavier .38/55 round has always been interesting. Very highly regarded in the Old West as a great bear and elk round, as well as deer. Congrats on a beautiful setup! I love level rifles, and have a number of Marlins as well.
Happy New Year
Very nice. I have an original in .32-40 from 1895. Awesome rifle. Also have an 1897 .25-35 and a later one in .30-30 from the 1956.
As always another one great vid. :)
Happy New Year!
Ein sehr schönes informatives Video
Vielen Dank für Ihre Mühe
Es ist immer eine Freude Ihnen beim schießen zu zusehen.
Viele Grüsse
Frank Galetzka
Very nice presentation Thank You. I would love a copy of that rifle.
Morning, I Quail hunt with a pedersoli side by side 20 gauge percussion. Humbling but I do manage to harvest a few Quail. Love your shows
Excellent review 👍. Uberti to the great job on that rifle. The only thing I would add to that rifle is a period correct diopter sight either a tang or receiver mounted. I would probably go with the receiver mounted because it's easier handling. Thank you 👍
Excellent video, as usual! I have the same rifle, and though i had a few bobbles at first, its a fun rifle to shoot. But to do so in any volume, one has to reload ( but anyone interested in guns should reload anyway) and cast bullets.
My rifle seems to like a .381" bullet.
Have not tried any BP loads in it but you have inspired me to roll up a few and see how they shoot.
YOUR BEST VIDEO EVER THANK YOU SIR
1:03 this may be the best summary of this channel ive ever seen
At 28:56 one can see the bullet drop in on the metal plate from it's high angle; look closely. Thank you, Balázs Németh for your channel and skill.
Again, a great video about a very interesting cartridge. Thank you. You are a veritable pendant of hickok45 in Europe.
Thank you.The Win 94 was my favorite saddle guns. One thing I have found is, when bench resting a rifle with a two piece stock, support the forend with your left hand (right handed shooter). This should stop the vertical stringing.
Nice video, nice rifle.
If I recall right. The "short range" version of the 38-55 as seen on the advertisement picture was either for short range target shooting or varmint hunting. I did read they tried it with other rounds like the 30WCF (30-30), and 30-40 krag. Its a very light recoiling load
Very nice rifle. I have an old 1894 carbine in 30 WCF made in 1937. I’d like to have one in 38-55 also.
👍😊 that’s a fine rifle. My first rifle was a 94 30/30 .
Beautiful
It sure dropped in there at 300 ! Good shooting off hand !
big fan of the 38-55, i shoot .375 Winchester downloaded to suit old specs :D great close deer round
Ive hunted with the 1894 Winchester 30-30 rifle with a 24" barrel using 158 grain soft tip bullet and loved it reliability and accuracy - ive taken deer up to 100+ yard using this weapon
That's a beautiful Winchester in the hands of a great shooter! I'll be doing all my hunting and target shooting with black powder this year. Thanks for another fine video!
Just love it 👏
I have a 38-55 rolling block. Great calibre.
Thanks for a great video. Love those 300m shots! I took a big whitetail doe with my 38-55 last year. I need to try loading some black powder rounds for it.
when I was working as a gunsmith a guy brought one of the originals of these in. It was rusted, rotted and the bore was a smooth bore sewer pipe, but the action was sound. I inspected and cleaned it but told the guy that he was going to have to find a new barrel and bring it to a gunsmith with a proper machine shop. I also told him that he was going to have to take up casting and reloading because .38-55 is not commercially available. He asked about putting a .30-30 barrel and bolt on it but I told him that due to the production date, even if he did that he would still have to load black powder rounds for it.
Thanks for another fine video sir. My first Model 94 was a .38-55 made in 1901, a cut down rifle that had very little rifling left for the middle section of the bore, so every 3rd bullet hit the target sideways. This was back before I was casting bullets and in those days .38-55 ammo was next to impossible to find as well. Thanks for the memories, all the best.
When younger, had a WinMdl 1894 in .30-30. Wasn't a bad rifle, just as fun to hunt with as my Ruger.
I had a 1861 Ballard full octagon barrel in 32 rim; fun to shoot and I enjoyed it's history but the hard to find and cost of 32 rim eventually became prohibitory. My favorite hunting rifle was a 1893 Marlin in 38/55; reloaded for it with a hand loader complete with bullet mold, what fun. Really smooth operating gun much nicer and better handling than the Winchesters of which I had several. What ever u hit with the 38/55 went right down, and the bullet would go right through a 8" pine tree at about 50yd.
Aah... The simple joys of life.
Nothing like a nice day. And a good rifle.
I have an original 1893 Marlin in 38-55. It was my father-in-laws. He passed away 2 years ago and I have never even shot it. With the ammopocalypse I cannot even find reloading dies for it around my area now.
The rifle arrived today and I dialed in the scope just a couple hours ago ruclips.net/user/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL . I haven’t shot with a scope in probably 25 years. The X on the left was my target. (the shot almost in the bullseye on the right X was my father in laws first shot after I made adjustments) The two shots circled are my first 2 shots. Then I brought it down - shot once. Then brought it over to the left. From there zeroed it in to dead center. This all was from 25 yards out. Follow instructions carefully when mounting the scope. So far I'm very happy with the purchase.
Very very big fansor sir
thank you
Great!
this is the must have gun for me after the m1a1 garand.
That is a really small rifle cartridge. My model 1894 made in 1950 uses a .32 special rifle cartridge and as a result only holds 7 rounds in the tubular magazine. That caliber you can really load up that tube magazine. Thanks for sharing
The 32 special is only a few thousandths of an inch longer than the 38-55. The 38-55 is the parent cartridge of the 30-30 Winchester, so it is not small at all
I have a (I think blackpowder era) 1894 in .32-40 and it has a large imperfection midway down the bore (rust/pitting dark section). I understand you can convert a .32-40 to .38-55... do you happen to know whether all the shell catches and elevators and other parts are compatible with the larger cartridge? Thanks for any info. @capandball
flyer at 100m was the first shot. it often typically with a cold barrel when I shoot 45-70 with black powder
One of my buddies has a .44-40 that was made in 1894. Shoots great, and I blame him for planting the seed in me for old lever action rifles.
Sweet. What model ?
@@guaporeturns9472 1894.
@@scottydouglass1892 A Marlin 1894 , I used to have one in 44 magnum
Winchester 94. I have a couple of the modern Winchesters in .44 magnum. Always wanted a marlin as they are smaller and handier. Now I am into the Rossi 92's.
@@scottydouglass1892 he probably don’t have a Winchester 94 manufactured in 1894 in 44-40 unless it’s been heavily modified. I have a 16 inch r-92 in 44 mag that’s my truck gun for chasing lions and bears in the brush of west side Oregon and Washington
The best!
I'm a newer sub but love what I've seen so far. I actually discovered you through RTH Franco-Prussian war. Forgive me if I'm incorrect or this has been covered but I'm curious about the process you have to go through to acquire and own your weapons? I assume the weapons laws are much different than here in the US.
I have one of those made by Winchester. And one made in .32/40. Which is the other caliber that Winchester made while trying to get the nickel steel correct and also load the cartridges safely with smokeless powder. It seemed that if you were a grain or two over the charge with smokeless powder, bad things happened. I have to form my .32/40 brass from .30/30.
Back in the 50's when I was a kid my Great Uncle had a 1895 Winchester in 38/55 that he used to deer hunt with he Shure killed a lot of white tail with that old gun my cousin still has it
Starline makes two 38-55 cartridge cases. From my reading the 2.080 inch is the current modern case length. The 2.125 inch case length was the original Marlin - Ballard cartridge length. What is the chamber length of the uberti 1894 that you are shooting? My 1885 high wall accept the 2.125 length case. I always enjoy your videos. Hope to see you use the 1894 in a hunt soon.
Thanks!
Many thanks for your support! I really appreciate it!
Excelent the .38x55.
I was taken the cal.3030 . Perfect for dear hunting.
Dear hunting seems to be a bit extreme, I think... Oh, my dear.
@@Szlejer Wow , you are so smart. Good job catching that.. bet you’re proud of that. You rock
very nice video and rifle! Grüße aus Österreich von Joachim;-)
Piękna ale nie do końca przemyślana konstrukcja - choćby lufa, na całej długości takiej samej średnicy kiedy w miarę oddalania od komory nabojowej powinna być mocno zbieżna co odjęłoby broni sporo z jej ciężaru... Zamek - fenomenalny!! Można godzinami podziwiać jego prostą a jakże piękną w złożeniu i w działaniu konstrukcję godną nagrody Nobla...
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A beautiful but not fully thought-out design - even the barrel, with the same diameter along the entire length, should be strongly convergent as it moves away from the chamber, which would take away a lot of the weapon's weight ... Slide - phenomenal!! You can admire for hours its simple and beautiful construction worthy of the Nobel Prize...
Wonderful video, thank you.
One of my brother's has an original Winchester 1894 carbine with a serial number of something like 47 (I don't recall exactly but definitely under 100). To me the mystery is that it has a barrel marked nickel steel and is chambered in 30wcf, also stamped on the barrel. Do you think this was perhaps rebarreled from 38-55 at some point?
Please tell me where to buy that black powder drop at 21:28 Thank you!
I recently purchased a marlin 1893 in 38-55 made between 1907-1909 and this is the exact video I need to.see thankyou. can you post a cleaning video?
Between my grand father , my father , myself and now my son we have taken a large amount of white tail deer with grand dads '94 38-55 .
mid-1980s Winchester runs short-term 307, 356, and 375. It was an angel eject. I shot my biggest buck with a 307 win. 38-55 it is 100 yards deer rifle at least for me.
Quick question which music did you used for the Austerlitz video
I have the 1894 Marlin 38-55, they look very similar