I'm still mad that KOF 15 lost to Multiversus last time. Which I may add wasn't fully released at the time: it was in beta. Somehow a beta beat a fully completed game.
@BlueLightningSky bruh stop the capping 🙄 there's no way you can complete kof xv which was still a COMPLETE experience to the barely a game that was Multiversus when it first dropped
Hot take? I think the Marvel Collection shouldn't be nominated in this category either. The combination of the games in it, makes it objectively the best nominee, but it's really unfair. It's like The Lord of the Rings Trilogy or The Godfather trilogy as one movie being nominated in the Oscars or another movie award today. There should be a specific Best Remaster, Port or Re-release category for remasters, ports and retro-collections for old games and they should not be eligible for other categories.
@@ShinmegamiPersona DLC was actually in nominations (and won) 8 years ago. Witcher 3 Blood and Wine won RPG of the Year over Dark Souls 3 and Deus Ex Mankind Divided.
Under Night in Birth II should been on that list instead of Multiversus. I hope Tekken 8 wins it over it. Because it don't make sense to be added on that list again.
It's funny because, despite multiple months of updates and mechanics changes that are all genuine improvements, Rivals 2 blows Multiversus out of the water in terms of gameplay. I should know, I played Multiversus consistently for multiple months.
DLC in GOTY nomination lists like Shadow of the Eldtree. Games is totally irrelevant genre lists like Sifu. Betas winning awards like Multiversus (this was over KOF15... and Sifu). Dave the Diver was also nominated as the best indie game last year which was its own mess. The show has always been a trash fire.
@thelastgogeta And man don't get started with Fighting EX Layer being screwed twice on getting a A Best Fighting GOTY nomination (2018-2021). I was absolutely pissed.
Because the diference is not in nature, but in quality. Arena fighters ARE fighting games. They simply are BAD fighting games, not suited for competitive play. They could be way better, but the companies who made them prefer to market them as party games for renown franchises: easy money, no maintenance needed, garbage gameplay, non serious aln the way.
Why are you trying to explain the obvious anyway? There's clear differences but it doesn't change the fact that both are fighting games hence Sparking being nominated lol
I feel dumb, I voted for Sparking Zero thinking Tekken 8 was on last years nominations, welp I can't change my vote now. I'm fine with Tekken 8 or Sparking Zero wining, either way Perfectionist is probably mad salty that Sparking Zero was at least nominated for the Game Awards which is a huge deal even if you don't win.
Comparing these game to Tekken is already a crime. People got zero clue what's going on. Might as well vote for GTA 5 because why not? You can punch in that game, pepega
I mean yes but also no. Like there is a multitude of fighting games that has come out already since 2023,2024 and still going as it with 2XKO, Fatal Fury Motw,Diesel Legacy on the horizon. That's not even also include indie games which I'm surprised that aren't mentioned to be in this nomination to be added like Pocket Bravery.
Nah, it reaffirms the poor selection process of award shows and that they should never be taken seriously. We got a jank arena fighter with a big brand, a collection of 90s games with big IP, shoddy relaunch of a platform fighter with big IP (which was already nominated before when it was a beta) and two sequels which are themselves based on massive IP. If they wanted to include new games of dubious quality and considerable hype, Blazing Strike is right there. If they wanted to highlight a platform fighter with polish, Rivals 2 is probably the main pick but Smack Studio and NASB2 were good too. We also had UNIB2 this year. If we had to have a re-release, SNK Vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos may not beat MvC2 but at least it is a solo game if that matters.
@@jirenthegray5776 Nah, just acknowledging that it was always a bad popularity contest at best AND there are plenty of niche and high profile games that people will pretend didn't happen till TheoryFighter or someone else makes it cool.
I've voted for MVC Fighting Collection. It has a low chance of winning but has a chance. Multiversus shouldn't be on there. If it wins, I call RIGGED. It was a sham that the game won several awards including Fighting Game of the Year, despite Multiversus at the time was still in beta. It's player base nowadays is nowhere near where it once was, and it's slowly declining further. Plus, there's a possibility of the Multiversus being shut down due to WBG losing lots of money from the failure of live service games. So no, it doesn't deserve to win, nor it shouldn't win.
i hope multiversus gets better characters. it feels like it's mainly just fighters from cartoon network, which would be cool if i didn't already fight with most of them on cartoon network punch time explosion. it's like they're just bringing over that game's roster.
Platform fighters and arena fighters ARE fighting games. I don't like them, but they are. Don't believe me? Well, I'll use blatant fallacy of authority and let one of the most respected fighting game theorist in history explain it to you: ruclips.net/video/b4Kc1p6Iat8/видео.htmlsi=eZnDBc_MdpAr1bdY
I don't know if a collection of previously released old games should win anything not in fighting games genre only i am talking in general in any genre. The only question i ask people who vote for marvel vs Capcom the Question WHY❓❓❗❗. If capcom released devil may cry collection and it won something at the game awards is that fair same thing if rocksteady made arkham games collection and it managed to win something, rockstar with GTA collection.
And y'all have the nerve to say a dlc like eldin ring shadow of the erdtree should not be nominated for GOTY I am against the dlc as well being considered as a contender for GOTY too but the game awards I don't very much care about it it's all rigged like when the last of us 2 won GOTY back at 2020.
Old games could have their own game awards name it game awards version/year 1994 and have the games that came out that year compete against each other that is what I think is much better and fair. And if you don't like the name you can come up with anything like " old timers or oldies are Goldies" and that's it problem solved now all the games that came out any time during the 90's, 2000's, and 80's can still get their shot.
I remember multiversus won for best fighting game in 2022, but IDK why they put multiversus in this year like does this game have already won in 2022, let tekken 8, dragon ball sparking zero or marvel vs capcom win this year
Hot take, MvC collection shouldn't be here. This is the award for the best fighting game of the year, and all of these games aren't from 2024. Rereleases shouldn't count. Capcom should just rerelease 3rd Strike every year, and there's your best fighting game for the next 20 years.
@@antelasic1950 I said the exact same thing too. Old games could have their own game awards name it game awards version/year 1994 and have the games that came out that year compete against each other that is what I think is much better and fair. And if you don't like the name you can come up with anything like " old timers or oldies are Goldies" and that's it problem solved now all the games that came out any time during the 90's, 2000's, and 80's can still get their shot or have its own category not best fighting game of 2024. It's not a hot take but marvel vs Capcom came out back at the 90's having it compete with fighting games that released this year is not fair nobody in their right mind would say that a bundle of previously released games is a good thing for it to run against newer released fighting games, because what's the point in all of the people on the internet getting excited for street fighter 6, or Tekken 8 if at the end of the day you vote for a collection of previously released games. And I am not just talking about fighting games other games genres too, if DMC collection released the same year Devil may cry 5 released and the collection managed to get awards and Devil may cry 5 didn't would that be fair.
Tekken 8, DB Sparkling Zero and (I guess) MVC Fighting game collections all makes sense to be nominated cause they're games that had come out this year, but Granblue Versus & Multiversus shouldn't. I would much replace both of them with Rivals of Aether and Under Night in-birth II instead.
The criteria is the games that have been released in the last 12 months. Otherwise you will never have any game that is released between the awards and the end of the year. IMO the one that shouldn't be there is the MVC collection: these games were released decades ago. A collection is not a new game.
@ardidsonriente2223 Well i mean theres also indie games thar barely mention or even nominated like Pocket Bravery, games like that should at least be consider even tho they are not as infamous as the other popular games nowadays. And yes I would also agree on that for MVC collection, having an absorbment of fighting games from the past to be nominated seems a bit tad unfair and people would more likely vote for that cause of nolstagia.
@@akilcharles3473 I totally concurr that games like UNISC, Pocket Bravery and Rivals 2 should be here too. But I wouldn't take down such a great game as Granblue Rising, which is a very, very worthy nominee for the last cycle. I would first take down Sparking and Multiversus, which are more party cashgrabs with fighting components in them, than proper competitive fighting games.
@@ardidsonriente2223 I mean they do tend fit in the name of fighting games even tho from our perception they don't click in the same aspect of aracde fighting games we in the FGC know for. Say like if the UFC game is about real life mma fighting game but is not THAT fighting game. Also every game is a cash grab if you want to make the excuse SF6 aint!
Any of those trash games (Exception of Sparking Zero it’s not trash but Tekken is still better) winning instead of Tekken is a robbery. Tekken 8 should win every category it’s in
I mean Story - Tekken and SZ Arcade Mode - T8 Customization - T8 and BARELY SZ Extra Modes - T8 (Tekken Ball, Arcade Quest, and Ghost Battle) SZ (Tournament mode and Custom Battle) Custom Music - T8 Training mode features - T8 Online training - T8 A ton of characters - SZ Replays -T8 Yea nah….
They gonna give it to Yekken 8 by default even tho Sparking Zero should win. Tekken 8 has had a lot of complaints in the last few months. It’s just that since sparking zero is the anime arena fighter it will be low hanging fruit in the industry so Tekken will win.
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I'm still mad that KOF 15 lost to Multiversus last time. Which I may add wasn't fully released at the time: it was in beta.
Somehow a beta beat a fully completed game.
bruuhhhhh I'm STILL peeved on that 🙄😒 KOF 15 was robbed kmmmttt smh a Stupid game in BETA won over a fully fledged game
Yeah same, and not just a beta. But a beta, that flopped miserably before the awards.
The way KOFXV launched it was also in beta
@BlueLightningSky bruh stop the capping 🙄 there's no way you can complete kof xv which was still a COMPLETE experience to the barely a game that was Multiversus when it first dropped
I'm sure Tekken 8 might introduce the Character during the Game Awards, so I'd vote for T8
I can see them doing a Teaser at TWT Finals then a gameplay trailer at Game Awards
Hot take? I think the Marvel Collection shouldn't be nominated in this category either. The combination of the games in it, makes it objectively the best nominee, but it's really unfair. It's like The Lord of the Rings Trilogy or The Godfather trilogy as one movie being nominated in the Oscars or another movie award today.
There should be a specific Best Remaster, Port or Re-release category for remasters, ports and retro-collections for old games and they should not be eligible for other categories.
It rigged, why else would they have dlc in nominations when they didn’t before
@@ShinmegamiPersona DLC was actually in nominations (and won) 8 years ago. Witcher 3 Blood and Wine won RPG of the Year over Dark Souls 3 and Deus Ex Mankind Divided.
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Under Night in Birth II should been on that list instead of Multiversus. I hope Tekken 8 wins it over it. Because it don't make sense to be added on that list again.
Game award’s takes getting wilder every year.
Between DLC being nominated for GoTY and this multiversus shit 😂….
It's funny because, despite multiple months of updates and mechanics changes that are all genuine improvements, Rivals 2 blows Multiversus out of the water in terms of gameplay. I should know, I played Multiversus consistently for multiple months.
That Geoff Keighley Multiverses thing is hilarious
If I decide to watch the Game Awards this year, it will be for the same reason as last year in the hopes of a Virtua Fighter 6 announcement.
while not impossible, you have better luck with seeing VF6 at Evo Japan next year.
@@barrysmith4610 I think you are right, which is why Im likely not going to bother to tune in.
Persona 6 for me
@barrysmith4610
Sega already said they working on a new virtual fighter not it being shown in December is small
I want Sparking Zero to win because of Akira Toriyama. However I think Tekken 8 is gonna take it.
A beta being a nomination is one thing, but remember Sifu being in that same category that same year lol?
DLC in GOTY nomination lists like Shadow of the Eldtree.
Games is totally irrelevant genre lists like Sifu.
Betas winning awards like Multiversus (this was over KOF15... and Sifu).
Dave the Diver was also nominated as the best indie game last year which was its own mess. The show has always been a trash fire.
@thelastgogeta And man don't get started with Fighting EX Layer being screwed twice on getting a A Best Fighting GOTY nomination (2018-2021). I was absolutely pissed.
Trying to explain the difference between fighting games and arena brawlers to people that don't play fighting games is a fruitless endeavour.
Because the diference is not in nature, but in quality. Arena fighters ARE fighting games. They simply are BAD fighting games, not suited for competitive play. They could be way better, but the companies who made them prefer to market them as party games for renown franchises: easy money, no maintenance needed, garbage gameplay, non serious aln the way.
Because you’re simplifying what fighting games are or “should be”.
That is the purpose of genres
Sparking zero is a fighting game cry bout it
Why are you trying to explain the obvious anyway? There's clear differences but it doesn't change the fact that both are fighting games hence Sparking being nominated lol
I only play Sparking and Tekken on this list. Voted Sparking.
No, seriously, how did Multiversus get picked over Rivals 2?
Ultima was a hero, I just couldn't see it..
Ultima is the prophet we didn’t deserve
I'm voting for Rising. 100% most deserving title in the lineup.
Voting for Granblue but I'm positive the "Anime Arena Fighter" will win
Voted for Dragon ball. Because its a fighting game and it is fun.
I feel dumb, I voted for Sparking Zero thinking Tekken 8 was on last years nominations, welp I can't change my vote now.
I'm fine with Tekken 8 or Sparking Zero wining, either way Perfectionist is probably mad salty that Sparking Zero was at least nominated for the Game Awards which is a huge deal even if you don't win.
T8 for the Win
Comparing these game to Tekken is already a crime. People got zero clue what's going on.
Might as well vote for GTA 5 because why not? You can punch in that game, pepega
This goes to show that 2024 barely has any fighting games that are brand-new and aren't remasters or relaunches.
I mean yes but also no. Like there is a multitude of fighting games that has come out already since 2023,2024 and still going as it with 2XKO, Fatal Fury Motw,Diesel Legacy on the horizon. That's not even also include indie games which I'm surprised that aren't mentioned to be in this nomination to be added like Pocket Bravery.
Nah, it reaffirms the poor selection process of award shows and that they should never be taken seriously.
We got a jank arena fighter with a big brand, a collection of 90s games with big IP, shoddy relaunch of a platform fighter with big IP (which was already nominated before when it was a beta) and two sequels which are themselves based on massive IP.
If they wanted to include new games of dubious quality and considerable hype, Blazing Strike is right there. If they wanted to highlight a platform fighter with polish, Rivals 2 is probably the main pick but Smack Studio and NASB2 were good too. We also had UNIB2 this year. If we had to have a re-release, SNK Vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos may not beat MvC2 but at least it is a solo game if that matters.
@@thelastgogeta Lol you mad your niche games went unnoticed.
@@jirenthegray5776 Nah, just acknowledging that it was always a bad popularity contest at best AND there are plenty of niche and high profile games that people will pretend didn't happen till TheoryFighter or someone else makes it cool.
Screw multiversus. Money versus. Greedy versus.
I've voted for MVC Fighting Collection. It has a low chance of winning but has a chance.
Multiversus shouldn't be on there. If it wins, I call RIGGED. It was a sham that the game won several awards including Fighting Game of the Year, despite Multiversus at the time was still in beta. It's player base nowadays is nowhere near where it once was, and it's slowly declining further. Plus, there's a possibility of the Multiversus being shut down due to WBG losing lots of money from the failure of live service games. So no, it doesn't deserve to win, nor it shouldn't win.
Good video brudda 👍🏻
i hope multiversus gets better characters. it feels like it's mainly just fighters from cartoon network, which would be cool if i didn't already fight with most of them on cartoon network punch time explosion. it's like they're just bringing over that game's roster.
Forget the games... How do you get your floors so shiny? 🤔
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game awards are a joke they can't even do the bare minimum of categorizing the games correct.
Platform fighters and arena fighters ARE fighting games. I don't like them, but they are.
Don't believe me? Well, I'll use blatant fallacy of authority and let one of the most respected fighting game theorist in history explain it to you:
ruclips.net/video/b4Kc1p6Iat8/видео.htmlsi=eZnDBc_MdpAr1bdY
I just want to point out that last year a beta of Multiversus beat King of Fighters XV for fighting game of the year.
Sir that was the premise of this entire vid
@IgnantRizzyX Commented before finishing the video, my bad.
Who even cares about Mulitversus?! Like I’ve never seen anyone talk about it anymore I assumed it was Dead
Tekken 8 should win. Heat for the win 🔥
Ben 10 n the entire teen titans squad with their go versions as skins and Godzilla n Kong is the only way multiversus can be saved I’m telling u rn
I don't know if a collection of previously released old games should win anything not in fighting games genre only i am talking in general in any genre. The only question i ask people who vote for marvel vs Capcom the Question WHY❓❓❗❗. If capcom released devil may cry collection and it won something at the game awards is that fair same thing if rocksteady made arkham games collection and it managed to win something, rockstar with GTA collection.
And y'all have the nerve to say a dlc like eldin ring shadow of the erdtree should not be nominated for GOTY I am against the dlc as well being considered as a contender for GOTY too but the game awards I don't very much care about it it's all rigged like when the last of us 2 won GOTY back at 2020.
Old games could have their own game awards name it game awards version/year 1994 and have the games that came out that year compete against each other that is what I think is much better and fair. And if you don't like the name you can come up with anything like " old timers or oldies are Goldies" and that's it problem solved now all the games that came out any time during the 90's, 2000's, and 80's can still get their shot.
I remember multiversus won for best fighting game in 2022, but IDK why they put multiversus in this year like does this game have already won in 2022, let tekken 8, dragon ball sparking zero or marvel vs capcom win this year
Also, as a side note, I want tekken 8 to be the best fighting game this year
Hot take, MvC collection shouldn't be here. This is the award for the best fighting game of the year, and all of these games aren't from 2024. Rereleases shouldn't count. Capcom should just rerelease 3rd Strike every year, and there's your best fighting game for the next 20 years.
This take isn’t hot 😂
@IgnantRizzyX I mean.....fair.
But I didn't see anyone else mention it in the comments, so I assumed most would disagree.
@@antelasic1950
I said the exact same thing too.
Old games could have their own game awards name it game awards version/year 1994 and have the games that came out that year compete against each other that is what I think is much better and fair. And if you don't like the name you can come up with anything like " old timers or oldies are Goldies" and that's it problem solved now all the games that came out any time during the 90's, 2000's, and 80's can still get their shot or have its own category not best fighting game of 2024. It's not a hot take but marvel vs Capcom came out back at the 90's having it compete with fighting games that released this year is not fair nobody in their right mind would say that a bundle of previously released games is a good thing for it to run against newer released fighting games, because what's the point in all of the people on the internet getting excited for street fighter 6, or Tekken 8 if at the end of the day you vote for a collection of previously released games. And I am not just talking about fighting games other games genres too, if DMC collection released the same year Devil may cry 5 released and the collection managed to get awards and Devil may cry 5 didn't would that be fair.
Tekken 8, DB Sparkling Zero and (I guess) MVC Fighting game collections all makes sense to be nominated cause they're games that had come out this year, but Granblue Versus & Multiversus shouldn't. I would much replace both of them with Rivals of Aether and Under Night in-birth II instead.
The criteria is the games that have been released in the last 12 months. Otherwise you will never have any game that is released between the awards and the end of the year.
IMO the one that shouldn't be there is the MVC collection: these games were released decades ago. A collection is not a new game.
@ardidsonriente2223 Well i mean theres also indie games thar barely mention or even nominated like Pocket Bravery, games like that should at least be consider even tho they are not as infamous as the other popular games nowadays.
And yes I would also agree on that for MVC collection, having an absorbment of fighting games from the past to be nominated seems a bit tad unfair and people would more likely vote for that cause of nolstagia.
@@akilcharles3473 I totally concurr that games like UNISC, Pocket Bravery and Rivals 2 should be here too. But I wouldn't take down such a great game as Granblue Rising, which is a very, very worthy nominee for the last cycle. I would first take down Sparking and Multiversus, which are more party cashgrabs with fighting components in them, than proper competitive fighting games.
@@ardidsonriente2223 I mean they do tend fit in the name of fighting games even tho from our perception they don't click in the same aspect of aracde fighting games we in the FGC know for. Say like if the UFC game is about real life mma fighting game but is not THAT fighting game.
Also every game is a cash grab if you want to make the excuse SF6 aint!
Tekken 8 is my goat
Any of those trash games (Exception of Sparking Zero it’s not trash but Tekken is still better) winning instead of Tekken is a robbery. Tekken 8 should win every category it’s in
Tekken 8 is the worst installment in the franchise
The best Fighting Game of the year is obviously Cursed Clash 🤣🤣🤣
Wait that actually did come out this year!😂😂😂
@IgnantRizzyX it came out on February 1 2024
TGA is a circus
Tekken 8 does not deserve it over SPZ. The game has basically no content outside of ranked, it's fun but a bad product...also screw Multiversus
I mean
Story - Tekken and SZ
Arcade Mode - T8
Customization - T8 and BARELY SZ
Extra Modes - T8 (Tekken Ball, Arcade Quest, and Ghost Battle)
SZ (Tournament mode and Custom Battle)
Custom Music - T8
Training mode features - T8
Online training - T8
A ton of characters - SZ
Replays -T8
Yea nah….
Its always bothered me to see an Arena Fighter and a Platform fighter listed.
As someone who enjoyed the first Multiversus beta this game is ass
They gonna give it to Yekken 8 by default even tho Sparking Zero should win. Tekken 8 has had a lot of complaints in the last few months. It’s just that since sparking zero is the anime arena fighter it will be low hanging fruit in the industry so Tekken will win.