She was supposed right come out in this Maximum Impact clone, nit that train wreck of a CvS rip-off. She's associated with Trashx that's why. It sucks to be her.
@brandonsellers1076 that's idiotic. Just because she's in CFE doesn't mean she should be hated. It's the same equivalent to seeing a bad film with good parts in them. Ingrid is a good part in a "bad" game.
Hot take: They need to bring back Ingrid Yes I know she is hated but she’s hated because many fans spread misinformation of the character for many years. I really hope she’s a playable character in SF6.
I kinda incline to agree with this take for a couple of reasons. For 1. We all relatively knew Ingrid from past SF games as well as CFE and we all remember how busted she was and is why we hate her. But other characters that we also knew were the exact same thing and were given a 2nd chance to be redeem and play as different that they usally do, hell the FGC community hated Elena in USFIV for how busted her healing was and now she is making a return in SF6 hoping to be a lot more balance this time around. And 2nd of all is probably a new redesign and playstyle if possible. They did it with Ed in SF6 why not do the same for her. I mean Capcom hasn't fully forgotten her if they hadn't also give Karin an alternate skin of hers in SF5.
@@akilcharles3473 Exactly. If we have Elena and Ed in SF6 despite their unpopularity (Elena’s case being broken asf in Ultra street fighter 4), I don’t see why Ingrid shouldn’t be in Sf6. She deserves a chance.
Its was random af for her to come along and be more overpowered than Bison meanwhile never being mentioned in the lore ever. This little fuking girl. Doesn’t look threatening at all. Enough of this female character bs because “inclusion”
That Capcom Fighting All Stars game just looks like Capcom's version of KoF Maximum Impact. Also seeing Chun Li do her iconic lightning kick super reminds me of when I first time I saw the KoF Maximum Impact commercial on TV back in the day and they showed Yuri doing her bicycle kick super.
She has some mysterious power and that’s it. Pretty much none of her appearances (none of which are canon) actually present her as being the most powerful. Hell, Alpha 3 Max has her shit get stolen by Bison, so clearly she’s not THAT powerful.
@konerrichards176 Yeah, I think in Alpha 3 Max, Bison stole one of her head crests to power up his Psycho Drive, but the translation made it sound like it was the Psycho Power itself that was stolen from her.
From what I understand, there is a build of Capcom Fighting All-Stars that's basically mostly finished. All they'd have to do is polish it a bit, and I'm sure they'd be able to drop it in another CFC.
@@brandonsellers1076I think he's referring to Fighting Evolution, and not Fighting All Stars. And yeah, I agree with him on that end. Bought this for my brother for Xmas when it released. He sold that shit off real quick after one session, and I got to find out why once I played it.
Fighting Evolution is just okay. If Capcom gave us Fighting All-stars and Alpha 3 Max so I could play as Ingrid in all the games she's in, I'd be happy
Capcom Fighting All Stars for Capcom Fighting Collection 3 Baby!!!!!!! About Fighting Jams yeah this just sucks. But at least now we know namco system 2X6 games can be ported to modern hardware. Tekken 5.1, Dark Ressuraction, Soul Calibur 3 Arcade Edition, Bloody Roar 3, Fate/unlimited codes, Sengoku Basara X and Super Dragon Ball Z all run on the same arcade hardware that’s capcom fighting jams is.
Ingrid is very much NOT the strongest character in Street Fighter because her appearance in Alpha 3 isn’t canon nor was she presented as being the strongest in that game. Pretty much none of her appearance have actually ever BEEN canon. She’s presented as mysterious at best but I’ve never seen anything that really justifies the sheer level of hate that comes when her name is uttered.
@@saynotop2w @saynotop2w If the issue is matter of balancing then sure, they could stand to make her stronger, but then they'd need to USE her first. But if its an issue with her general moveset, I don't see why a cosmic being would need to have their moveset constrained. Not all cosmic beings need to project power, some are just mysterious and unpredictable. Ingrid is that, she doesn't fight seriously and has weird powers related to light.
Ryu's Dramatic Finish = Kaze No Ken, which is the move he used to defeat Akuma in _Street Fighter III: Ryu Final_ The SF2 characters don't get much but they do far more damage than the other games. RYu/Guile/Bison are actually mid-tier in this. The Red Earth characters, with the exception of Hydron, are top tier in this. Leo is the best character in the game, last I checked. Anyway, I will maintain that cancelling CFAS and replacing it with CFJ was the correct course of action. You might look back on this game fondly _now_ because you didn't play it, and you might not remember what else was out in 2003. But remember that games like _Tekken 4_, _Virtua Fighter 4_, _Dead or Alive 3_ were out by this time. CFAS didn't even look as good as _Dead or Alive 2_ which game out 4 years earlier. So it looked like garbage compared to its comtemporaries. Furthermore, this game had two location tests, and _people who actually played it_ reacted very negatively. You know bad a game has to be for them to not even bother with attempting to fix the game and instead cancel it outright? If this game had come out, it would have done _major_ damage to Capcom's reputation, and quite possibly would have killed their interest in fighters for good. With CFJ, while it was received poorly, that did no long term damage to Capcom because everyone knew that Capcom could do better if they wanted to. There was almost no effort put into CFJ (there was supposed to have an SF1 team, apparently, but got scrapped) and it showed. But CFAS had actual effort behind it and it did so poorly in testing that Capcom chose to cancel it rather than fix it. The former was better for Capcom in the long-term than the latter. As as has been noted, the game itself is actually not bad to play. It's just horrible graphically, I personally thought the music was dreadful, and is overall a soul-less entity. But I'd still take that over CFAS any day.
I remember buying this when it came out. The very low price for a brand new game should have told me something was up from the get go. Luckily I had bought the street fighter anniversary collection on ps2 as well that same day. I immediately ditched this game for Third Strike (I was brand new to third strike BTW)
I would agree with the fact that Capcom Fighting Evolution was the worst fighting game in the past but we're in 2024 going into 2025 and Capcom wouldn't have picked that specific game among their entirety of their library for a reason. Cause chances are they would be adjusting and fixing the game's balance and such to be playable nowadays. I mean we seen it already been done with certain people modifying the games to be more playable such as the original Street Fighter 1 game as it is, so it's not that farfetch to do the same with CFE.
Hot take: Capcom Fighting Evolution really wasn't bad, it just needed a bigger playable roster of characters. Having a big amount of them just be background fodder was a bad move. However, the stages were very cool, the controls are super crisp, and the soundtrack was 🔥
The idea of having characters only be allowed mechanics from the game they represent is stupid as hell, a groove system would have been far better. Even in CVS2 they added SNK mechanics to some Capcom grrooves so to keep it balanced.
@ChrisMS0815 noted, I didn't think it was a bad thing 💁♂️. It made for an unbalanced but interesting outcome, which is why if they would have added a big roster of playable characters, it would have eased up on the negativity for it since, when you look at the feedback, that was the main complaint for it.
@@ChrisMS0815Stupid? that's what made it fun if anyone was good at a specific characters fighting mechanic playing with others who were good at there specific characters was awesome if you want to play with SNK mechanics go play an SNK game then I never understood why people be complaining.
@@silverdragoon27 I didn't say anything about having SNK mechanics in this game, I said a groove system to give any character the playstyle of the games represented, in this case it would be an SF2 groove, SF Alpha groove, SF3 groove, Darkstalkers groove, and a Red Earth groove, this gives more freedom to the players otherwise why the hell would anybody use the SF2 characters when all hardly have any worthwhile mechanics. It's making an unbalanced game on purpose and yes it's stupid especially since the SF2 characters also appeared in SF Alpha and some in SF3 so why limit them to SF2?
I feel like I'm the only one who has a genuine soft spot for this game despite the amount of flack that it gets. Surprised this Rizzy guy Didn't bring up the lack of Street Fighter 1 Representation, If Ono had been Given a little more time By his bosses to add the Street Fighter 1 Reps, I could have REALLY enjoyed playing with Retsu (AKA The original old, bald, and angry Japanese man of fighting games - He pre-dated Tekken's Heihachi Mishima after all.) And wonder what he could've brought to the table in terms of gameplay.
I can die happily knowing that Guy counters Hauser in CFJ. My life is fulfilled as a Guy player. But in all seriousness this game was some butt no cap lmao 🤣
They royal whooped OP tweeters ass in the quotes that day. Me included. Because how dare you say this game was good? You were around in 05 like me! I was thirsting for NGBC and we had “NGBC at home” and it was CFE.
It's really interesting to see people explore and talk about this game. This is one of the first Capcom fighting games I ever owned. I remember thinking it was really good back then, and looking back, I can only laugh. I always hated Ingrid though, and that will likely never change.
Long story short: Instead of making a cool 3D game with original characters and some neat game ideas and sticking with it they made a commercially released Mugen that's highly unbalanced and that's terrible stages a d music
Off rip before even starting the video I can tell you exactly why at least one person hates this game because I met someone who has and they said it's slow as all hell
They have the game at their HQ. Nakayama san posted in game screen shots from the game on twitter years ago. He even blurred out the SNK guest character on the character select screen. We gotta push capcom to seriously consider releasing that playable build. #FreeCFAS
I thought that Ingrid became hated after Alpha 3 Max, not before ? As in it was in that game that she claimed that Psycho Power was hers and Bison stole it.
People dont even remember why they hate her lol. But yeah, some western fans hate her because of a mistranslation. It wasn't that she originally wielded psycho power, just that bison stole one of her emblems that gives her power to fuel his psycho power.
I wouldn't be surprised if those games that could of been added, MIGHT be part of collection #3 alongside the SF EX series. But let's hope, the more voices speak up, the more the Devs will listen
Also this roster was pretty sick. Poison, Haggar, Alex, Batsu etc. Ingrid, DD and Rook also had solid designs. They were not lying with that All-Star title.
It's weird to imagine the world were Capcom FAS actually released. Street Fighter would've been treated like Soul Calibur or SamSho. Sister series that the devs think is a financial risk because the last games never sold as well as the main series.
The funny thing is Yun's sprite is the SF3 one but they cut some animation frames. Same with the other SF3 characters. Also, SNK did their own take on this with Neo Geo Battle Coliseum and it was actually pretty good.
In the infamous words of Old Joseph Joestar: “I’ll never forgive the Japanese!’ If the audience testing actually went successful for Fighting All Stars,we would’ve had full on tournaments,a mini side tournament at EVO,mini locals… The vision would’ve been amazing
The thing with the Red Earth characters in CFE is that Capcom had to rehaul how their mechanics worked, for the most part. For example, Red Earth didn't have gem meters for supers, instead using collectable orbs for supers, and while there is a leveling mechanic in CFE for them it's completely different from how it worked in Red Earth, which was simply an RPG-style leveling system where you unlocked more moves & abilities the more you played, and returning players would input a button code they got on Game Over to continue using the character at the level they last Game Overed with, before they reached the max of Level 32. You literally can't learn how to properly play Red Earth by playing CFE. Also, astonishingly enough, there was also supposed to be Street Fighter 1 reps in CFE! It was going to be Sagat (with a modified sprite to reflect his pre-chest scar look), Eagle (via CvS2), & a brand new version of Retsu, though the entire "team" got scrapped. However, how would they even have played in CFE? What, would they have had no supers & no ability to combo at all, but in return their specials do insane damage?
And the fact that the second fighting collection is gonna be censored somehow… I pray that it doesn’t make unnecessary choices moving forward, just like I pray they’d not let their future sales go to waste and put it all on a revival of Evolution/Jam🙏🏿
I'm okay with Fighting Evolution. I'm okay with it. I accept it for what it is. And I really do like Ingrid But I agree, this game needs to release. They were SO CLOSE. They don't even have to do much. They could just release whatever they got and we'd all happily take it. I want to live in a world where I can play both of these online. It's so close.
I’ve played this game it wasn’t that bad just bad base on Capcom standards. If you pick between mechanics and a much bigger roster it’ll be fine. This being in Capcom Fighting Collection 2 will give it new life.
Capcom Fighting All Stars would be a good addition to an EX collection. Fighting Jam was pretty bad, but IMO it's good that it's included in the collection. And as much as I think Fighting Jam was pretty bad, that doesn't mean Ingrid herself is a shitty character. She's just undeveloped. That's how I see it.
People who were at location testing this did not want to play this. Maximilian dood has a story on it and NeoGAF(RIP in peace) had writeups about the ONE loke test for where players were vehemently against the gameplay(which they said was not very street fighter like. HUH?!) And the devs panicked and just shat out this Capcom FE instead. Prominent Capcom leaker lupo(?) who we later learned was Seth Killian dropped rumors that the arcade boards this game was in was at some storage in Osaka(not Kyoto) last he heard. It's been more than a decade since he said that, so assume those are now in danger. TLDR -One loke test destroyed this game's chances, devs panicked and CFE was the result.
I always wondered why I didnt like Ingrid. Then I saw a comment that articulated my feelings so simply. "Ingrid, the Roman Reigns of Capcom" Capcom pushed her so hard and so fast that fans just got sick of her.
those 2 characters btw is based on the 2 protagonists from kof maximim impact. it had the same devs when snk went out of business so the moveset is prob the same
I wonder if the Darkstalker chars had Dark Force in this game lol We didn't play it long enough and my friend was like "yeah...let's play Guilty Gear now" lol
This game feels like someone cut all the characters out of a magazine and just glue sticked them into this game. Such jank. I remember picking this up at gamestop, excited for a new fighting game and being thoroughly disappointed.
Yeah I never played that game but I really wanted to try it but it's not available on PS4 but it will be ... Thanks Capcom. But snk had made more fighting games than Capcom some are good some not but they still masters of fighting game... So Capcom fighting jam wouldn't?
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I feel the hate for Ingrid has to be the stupidest and forced shit I have seen in a while. I dont get the hate at all.
Same. I never understood it. 🤷🏾♂️
@@lordkiesor22
Yeah 😔
Same
She was supposed right come out in this Maximum Impact clone, nit that train wreck of a CvS rip-off. She's associated with Trashx that's why. It sucks to be her.
@brandonsellers1076 that's idiotic. Just because she's in CFE doesn't mean she should be hated. It's the same equivalent to seeing a bad film with good parts in them. Ingrid is a good part in a "bad" game.
Hot take: They need to bring back Ingrid
Yes I know she is hated but she’s hated because many fans spread misinformation of the character for many years. I really hope she’s a playable character in SF6.
I kinda incline to agree with this take for a couple of reasons.
For 1. We all relatively knew Ingrid from past SF games as well as CFE and we all remember how busted she was and is why we hate her. But other characters that we also knew were the exact same thing and were given a 2nd chance to be redeem and play as different that they usally do, hell the FGC community hated Elena in USFIV for how busted her healing was and now she is making a return in SF6 hoping to be a lot more balance this time around.
And 2nd of all is probably a new redesign and playstyle if possible. They did it with Ed in SF6 why not do the same for her. I mean Capcom hasn't fully forgotten her if they hadn't also give Karin an alternate skin of hers in SF5.
@@akilcharles3473 Exactly. If we have Elena and Ed in SF6 despite their unpopularity (Elena’s case being broken asf in Ultra street fighter 4), I don’t see why Ingrid shouldn’t be in Sf6. She deserves a chance.
ingrid is capcom's athena
@@ektran4205 I have never understood this idea because looking at their moveset and way of dressing they are nothing alike.
Yeah I still don't get the hate for Ingrid.
She got nice legs ngl
Me either tbh I think she has a cool design
She isn't that bad to be honest I always wanted to see more of her she's underused in the Capcom franchise.
Its was random af for her to come along and be more overpowered than Bison meanwhile never being mentioned in the lore ever. This little fuking girl. Doesn’t look threatening at all. Enough of this female character bs because “inclusion”
Spread the word for Capcom to revive this somehow
It has been 20 years , technology has advanced so much , it wouldn't be as hard to make.
Having a capcom game similar to KOF , would have been sick.
@@Kromatt Oh they can easily make this game their version of Maximum Impact for sure.
@@ashcrimson2801 it definitely got maximum impact vibes
That and the SF EX series.
@@SuikodenGR perfect for Collection 3
Capcom Fighting All Stars...Capcom's Maximum Impact. Probably would've been more successful than Capcom Fighting Evolution/Jam.
That Capcom Fighting All Stars game just looks like Capcom's version of KoF Maximum Impact. Also seeing Chun Li do her iconic lightning kick super reminds me of when I first time I saw the KoF Maximum Impact commercial on TV back in the day and they showed Yuri doing her bicycle kick super.
The thing about Ingrid being the "Strongest Character In The Universe" was apparently a Mistranslation
She has some mysterious power and that’s it. Pretty much none of her appearances (none of which are canon) actually present her as being the most powerful. Hell, Alpha 3 Max has her shit get stolen by Bison, so clearly she’s not THAT powerful.
@@konerrichards176 And Alpha 3 shouldn't be taken seriously cause everyone rocks Bison's shit in it & Yun & Yang fuckin time travel.
@konerrichards176 Yeah, I think in Alpha 3 Max, Bison stole one of her head crests to power up his Psycho Drive, but the translation made it sound like it was the Psycho Power itself that was stolen from her.
From what I understand, there is a build of Capcom Fighting All-Stars that's basically mostly finished. All they'd have to do is polish it a bit, and I'm sure they'd be able to drop it in another CFC.
Where's the petition to sign for them to release this. I'd sign it and push it to the whole Midwest
Literally only playing Fighting Evolution to play as the Dinosaur from Red Earth for about 5 minutes before I get bored and go back to playing CVS2 😅
It's just a small distraction at this point lol
Free capcom all star.......come on I know I am not the only one, who wants this game
I just want to play the game cuz it has Strider.
& quite frankly, it wouldn't exactly be the 1st bad game that i would unironically like
Let’s do hashtag and make into movement 😭 pleaseeeee I’ll support because we got mvc and cvs2 are back
@@mistagoodvibesyt6333 #FreeCFAS
SOMEONE MAKE THE PETITION!!!
This game looks like a MUGEN, but not the good ones...
Mugen ain't 3D. It's more akin to SNK's Maximum Impact.
@@brandonsellers1076I think he's referring to Fighting Evolution, and not Fighting All Stars. And yeah, I agree with him on that end. Bought this for my brother for Xmas when it released. He sold that shit off real quick after one session, and I got to find out why once I played it.
Fighting Evolution is just okay.
If Capcom gave us Fighting All-stars and Alpha 3 Max so I could play as Ingrid in all the games she's in, I'd be happy
Capcom Fighting All Stars for Capcom Fighting Collection 3 Baby!!!!!!!
About Fighting Jams yeah this just sucks. But at least now we know namco system 2X6 games can be ported to modern hardware. Tekken 5.1, Dark Ressuraction, Soul Calibur 3 Arcade Edition, Bloody Roar 3, Fate/unlimited codes, Sengoku Basara X and Super Dragon Ball Z all run on the same arcade hardware that’s capcom fighting jams is.
Ingrid is very much NOT the strongest character in Street Fighter because her appearance in Alpha 3 isn’t canon nor was she presented as being the strongest in that game. Pretty much none of her appearance have actually ever BEEN canon. She’s presented as mysterious at best but I’ve never seen anything that really justifies the sheer level of hate that comes when her name is uttered.
@@saynotop2w @saynotop2w If the issue is matter of balancing then sure, they could stand to make her stronger, but then they'd need to USE her first. But if its an issue with her general moveset, I don't see why a cosmic being would need to have their moveset constrained. Not all cosmic beings need to project power, some are just mysterious and unpredictable. Ingrid is that, she doesn't fight seriously and has weird powers related to light.
Ryu's Dramatic Finish = Kaze No Ken, which is the move he used to defeat Akuma in _Street Fighter III: Ryu Final_
The SF2 characters don't get much but they do far more damage than the other games. RYu/Guile/Bison are actually mid-tier in this.
The Red Earth characters, with the exception of Hydron, are top tier in this. Leo is the best character in the game, last I checked.
Anyway, I will maintain that cancelling CFAS and replacing it with CFJ was the correct course of action. You might look back on this game fondly _now_ because you didn't play it, and you might not remember what else was out in 2003. But remember that games like _Tekken 4_, _Virtua Fighter 4_, _Dead or Alive 3_ were out by this time. CFAS didn't even look as good as _Dead or Alive 2_ which game out 4 years earlier. So it looked like garbage compared to its comtemporaries.
Furthermore, this game had two location tests, and _people who actually played it_ reacted very negatively. You know bad a game has to be for them to not even bother with attempting to fix the game and instead cancel it outright? If this game had come out, it would have done _major_ damage to Capcom's reputation, and quite possibly would have killed their interest in fighters for good.
With CFJ, while it was received poorly, that did no long term damage to Capcom because everyone knew that Capcom could do better if they wanted to. There was almost no effort put into CFJ (there was supposed to have an SF1 team, apparently, but got scrapped) and it showed. But CFAS had actual effort behind it and it did so poorly in testing that Capcom chose to cancel it rather than fix it. The former was better for Capcom in the long-term than the latter.
As as has been noted, the game itself is actually not bad to play. It's just horrible graphically, I personally thought the music was dreadful, and is overall a soul-less entity. But I'd still take that over CFAS any day.
I remember buying this when it came out. The very low price for a brand new game should have told me something was up from the get go. Luckily I had bought the street fighter anniversary collection on ps2 as well that same day. I immediately ditched this game for Third Strike (I was brand new to third strike BTW)
I would agree with the fact that Capcom Fighting Evolution was the worst fighting game in the past but we're in 2024 going into 2025 and Capcom wouldn't have picked that specific game among their entirety of their library for a reason. Cause chances are they would be adjusting and fixing the game's balance and such to be playable nowadays.
I mean we seen it already been done with certain people modifying the games to be more playable such as the original Street Fighter 1 game as it is, so it's not that farfetch to do the same with CFE.
That training stage is literally just Tartarus from Persona 3.
psycho drive was alien tech in universe
Manifesting Ingrid for SF6 to make the haters salty when I beat them with her 🙏
Hot take: Capcom Fighting Evolution really wasn't bad, it just needed a bigger playable roster of characters. Having a big amount of them just be background fodder was a bad move. However, the stages were very cool, the controls are super crisp, and the soundtrack was 🔥
The idea of having characters only be allowed mechanics from the game they represent is stupid as hell, a groove system would have been far better. Even in CVS2 they added SNK mechanics to some Capcom grrooves so to keep it balanced.
@ChrisMS0815 noted, I didn't think it was a bad thing 💁♂️. It made for an unbalanced but interesting outcome, which is why if they would have added a big roster of playable characters, it would have eased up on the negativity for it since, when you look at the feedback, that was the main complaint for it.
@ChrisMS0815 Ultimately, this game was half baked as a mug. This was the last hurrah of the fighting team too so it's sad to look back on.
@@ChrisMS0815Stupid? that's what made it fun if anyone was good at a specific characters fighting mechanic playing with others who were good at there specific characters was awesome if you want to play with SNK mechanics go play an SNK game then I never understood why people be complaining.
@@silverdragoon27 I didn't say anything about having SNK mechanics in this game, I said a groove system to give any character the playstyle of the games represented, in this case it would be an SF2 groove, SF Alpha groove, SF3 groove, Darkstalkers groove, and a Red Earth groove, this gives more freedom to the players otherwise why the hell would anybody use the SF2 characters when all hardly have any worthwhile mechanics. It's making an unbalanced game on purpose and yes it's stupid especially since the SF2 characters also appeared in SF Alpha and some in SF3 so why limit them to SF2?
Having all stars as a bonus woulda been super cool
I feel like I'm the only one who has a genuine soft spot for this game despite the amount of flack that it gets. Surprised this Rizzy guy Didn't bring up the lack of Street Fighter 1 Representation, If Ono had been Given a little more time By his bosses to add the Street Fighter 1 Reps, I could have REALLY enjoyed playing with Retsu (AKA The original old, bald, and angry Japanese man of fighting games - He pre-dated Tekken's Heihachi Mishima after all.) And wonder what he could've brought to the table in terms of gameplay.
That training stage is very weird looking.
They got this shit sitting on a usb in their office drawer 😂
I can die happily knowing that Guy counters Hauser in CFJ. My life is fulfilled as a Guy player. But in all seriousness this game was some butt no cap lmao 🤣
They royal whooped OP tweeters ass in the quotes that day. Me included. Because how dare you say this game was good? You were around in 05 like me! I was thirsting for NGBC and we had “NGBC at home” and it was CFE.
It's really interesting to see people explore and talk about this game. This is one of the first Capcom fighting games I ever owned. I remember thinking it was really good back then, and looking back, I can only laugh. I always hated Ingrid though, and that will likely never change.
Apparently, the location test for code breakers got really bad feedback. Still would like the build to be leaked.
I remember being so excited for this game when it was first announced. And being so disappointed whenever the idea was scrapped
Charlie with Gloves is cursed
Long story short:
Instead of making a cool 3D game with original characters and some neat game ideas and sticking with it they made a commercially released Mugen that's highly unbalanced and that's terrible stages a d music
Off rip before even starting the video I can tell you exactly why at least one person hates this game because I met someone who has and they said it's slow as all hell
I actually enjoyed Fighting Jam when it came out. Back then it was only place to get Red Earth characters other than Tessa
For all we know fighting all stars could’ve been terrible but we still wanna see it for ourselves lmao
They have the game at their HQ. Nakayama san posted in game screen shots from the game on twitter years ago. He even blurred out the SNK guest character on the character select screen. We gotta push capcom to seriously consider releasing that playable build. #FreeCFAS
I thought that Ingrid became hated after Alpha 3 Max, not before ? As in it was in that game that she claimed that Psycho Power was hers and Bison stole it.
People dont even remember why they hate her lol. But yeah, some western fans hate her because of a mistranslation. It wasn't that she originally wielded psycho power, just that bison stole one of her emblems that gives her power to fuel his psycho power.
I wouldn't be surprised if those games that could of been added, MIGHT be part of collection #3 alongside the SF EX series.
But let's hope, the more voices speak up, the more the Devs will listen
I think ingrid was supposed to be kula since all star supposed to be a 3d cvs game.
Also this roster was pretty sick. Poison, Haggar, Alex, Batsu etc. Ingrid, DD and Rook also had solid designs. They were not lying with that All-Star title.
Darkstalkers 4 should have a time travel plot, and should include the Red Earth characters as being from the past.
Appreciate it. I at least have a better understanding of why people don't like this game.
It's weird to imagine the world were Capcom FAS actually released. Street Fighter would've been treated like Soul Calibur or SamSho. Sister series that the devs think is a financial risk because the last games never sold as well as the main series.
The funny thing is Yun's sprite is the SF3 one but they cut some animation frames. Same with the other SF3 characters. Also, SNK did their own take on this with Neo Geo Battle Coliseum and it was actually pretty good.
In the infamous words of Old Joseph Joestar: “I’ll never forgive the Japanese!’
If the audience testing actually went successful for Fighting All Stars,we would’ve had full on tournaments,a mini side tournament at EVO,mini locals…
The vision would’ve been amazing
KoF Maximum Impact vibes
Pretty much. And it was fully 3D like tekken or VF. And was going to release before Maximum Impact.
The thing with the Red Earth characters in CFE is that Capcom had to rehaul how their mechanics worked, for the most part. For example, Red Earth didn't have gem meters for supers, instead using collectable orbs for supers, and while there is a leveling mechanic in CFE for them it's completely different from how it worked in Red Earth, which was simply an RPG-style leveling system where you unlocked more moves & abilities the more you played, and returning players would input a button code they got on Game Over to continue using the character at the level they last Game Overed with, before they reached the max of Level 32. You literally can't learn how to properly play Red Earth by playing CFE.
Also, astonishingly enough, there was also supposed to be Street Fighter 1 reps in CFE! It was going to be Sagat (with a modified sprite to reflect his pre-chest scar look), Eagle (via CvS2), & a brand new version of Retsu, though the entire "team" got scrapped. However, how would they even have played in CFE? What, would they have had no supers & no ability to combo at all, but in return their specials do insane damage?
Ingrid is a Capcom goddess, respect Ingrid
And the fact that the second fighting collection is gonna be censored somehow… I pray that it doesn’t make unnecessary choices moving forward, just like I pray they’d not let their future sales go to waste and put it all on a revival of Evolution/Jam🙏🏿
I'm okay with Fighting Evolution. I'm okay with it. I accept it for what it is. And I really do like Ingrid
But I agree, this game needs to release. They were SO CLOSE. They don't even have to do much. They could just release whatever they got and we'd all happily take it.
I want to live in a world where I can play both of these online. It's so close.
i think the ST characers in Capcom Fighting Jam actually deal more damage than the rest of the cast... i could be wrong tho.
we should have gotten capcom fighting all-stars instead of this copy and paste piece of shit game
Yeah bro. It's literally just limited MUGEN that you got to pay for.
The question is why they didn't include rivals schools 1,2 rather than this game
Probably copy rights issues.
I’ve played this game it wasn’t that bad just bad base on Capcom standards. If you pick between mechanics and a much bigger roster it’ll be fine. This being in Capcom Fighting Collection 2 will give it new life.
Capcom Fighting All Stars would be a good addition to an EX collection. Fighting Jam was pretty bad, but IMO it's good that it's included in the collection. And as much as I think Fighting Jam was pretty bad, that doesn't mean Ingrid herself is a shitty character. She's just undeveloped. That's how I see it.
#ReviveCapcomFightingAllStar
Why tf would they cancel this
People who were at location testing this did not want to play this.
Maximilian dood has a story on it and NeoGAF(RIP in peace) had writeups about the ONE loke test for where players were vehemently against the gameplay(which they said was not very street fighter like. HUH?!) And the devs panicked and just shat out this Capcom FE instead. Prominent Capcom leaker lupo(?) who we later learned was Seth Killian dropped rumors that the arcade boards this game was in was at some storage in Osaka(not Kyoto) last he heard. It's been more than a decade since he said that, so assume those are now in danger.
TLDR -One loke test destroyed this game's chances, devs panicked and CFE was the result.
@@janematthews9087 oh geez
Bruh if the UMVC3 modders make a mod for those all star characters, bruh we will have the closure we need.. 😂
I always wondered why I didnt like Ingrid. Then I saw a comment that articulated my feelings so simply.
"Ingrid, the Roman Reigns of Capcom"
Capcom pushed her so hard and so fast that fans just got sick of her.
She only appears in one game.
I didn't hate it like I hated EX3, I was just disappointed with the art style and lack of effort.
Good thing Neo Geo Battle Coliseum was LEAGUES Better than this. It's the same concept but execution and follow though is better than what Capcom did.
those 2 characters btw is based on the 2 protagonists from kof maximim impact. it had the same devs when snk went out of business
so the moveset is prob the same
Q chilling on top of the building lol 11:29
I wonder if the Darkstalker chars had Dark Force in this game lol We didn't play it long enough and my friend was like "yeah...let's play Guilty Gear now" lol
DID RYU JUST DO A TETSUZANKO?
Juunen haiyan day- oh my bad wrong character
This game feels like someone cut all the characters out of a magazine and just glue sticked them into this game. Such jank. I remember picking this up at gamestop, excited for a new fighting game and being thoroughly disappointed.
Capcom Evolution felt a Mugen fan-made game. I couldn't take that game seriously.
6:33 F them! They put Chun-Li into SF3 gang instead of actual SF3 character!
I'm just buying it for power stone 1 and 2
I hope Ingrid shows up in Street Fighter 6 ❤
Do u think they are gonna ever release all stars?
Yun is using his SF3 sprites
If youve never played a 2d fighter before CFE is probably fine
Yeah I never played that game but I really wanted to try it but it's not available on PS4 but it will be ... Thanks Capcom. But snk had made more fighting games than Capcom some are good some not but they still masters of fighting game... So Capcom fighting jam wouldn't?
and kyo supposed to be secret character in all stars
15:53 😂
Fighting Evolution looks terrible for a sprite based game. This really is a mugen game.... The cancelled game looks amazing.
It's not Ingrid's fault
Fighting Evolution is good only because it has Alex
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