i could totally see this being played with a vr headset and a go pro/ web cam with a light on it. that way it actually make u feel like you are in the forest yourself.
I just bought this game. I’m planning on adding triangular tokens (leaf/leaves) that the spirits can add anywhere if they chose to stay put (choosing between moving or causing mischief). The seeker must use a move to remove the roadblock, but can use 1 collected leaf to reroll, or two to roll twice, discarding leaves after use.
I essentially make a time limit (15-25 min depending on #shadowlings) for seekers to find all shadows or unmask 5-10 seperate masks within the time limit. If time runs out shadows win or shadows gather at one spot and win. That way the seeker doesnt stall and camp at unfrozen shadowlings. Also shadowlings have 20-30 sec to move only.
This game looks amazing, I am just wary about the honesty of the players who have to police themselves on their turn. It was nice seeing the crew call themselves out for passing through the light on their turn.
There needs to be a stalemate break rule in where the seeker can’t just keep going in a circle around frozen Shadowlings. Like if they touch the same mossy rock before touching four new ones, a Shadowling gets a mask back. Or something like that.
I realized once the first shadowling was discovered you could pretty much create a stalemate, by just circling it, because they can't win without un-freeing it so they have to get closer and then you'll probably get them all.
I was thinking the same thing. The Shadowlings would need a whole lot of luck with the searching party rolling very, very unfortunately to avoid that trap.
@@baka_yu9343 And it's what he did mostly, just circle. I also think if you just go back and forth down the center lane the shadowlings would be stuck because the light shines pretty good everywhere from the center out. Maybe different landscaping would thwart that.
Yeah, it's a fun idea but the game design seems wobbly overall. Plus it doesn't seem like the lamp bearer would have much fun at all, not having anyone to strategize with, being at the mercy of die rolls and constantly putting the mask on and off and getting blinded by the lamp. I wouldn't want to do this for an hour.
I think, played seriously, lots of games would last too long because running around is a losing strategy for seeker. We need additional rules to force seeker play more aggressively. A turn limit might be fine where after a certain amount of turns played, shadowlings gain some perks or maybe even the seeker loses. Well, this will of course cause shadowlings to play only defensively until they reach the turn limit so maybe we need some buff for the seeker to balance. In any case, game needs some more work for better playing experience.
It's kinda like playing certain tag variations that involve rescuing as a kid, sure the "it" can just guard the first catch and game never ends, sure that is the best strategy, but is it fun for anyone then? Nope and kids would play something else.
We bought the game for the components and implemented our own rules. We're also playing with a tea-candle (adult supervision of course) as this makes the shadows much crispier and easier for kids (and adults alike) to see and estimate where the shadow will move to (it also creates an almost magical atmosphere). Our shadowlings also use dice but will not move on rocks like the candle but use the spaces where the trees are on. Also, no circling a shadowling once it's frozen. Makes for a faster and more relaxing game. One should keep in mind that this is an implementation of a game invented in 1985. I feel like adapting this to ones house rules is fair game at this point. We like it (with adapted rules). Maybe this helps!
I kinda like the concept.. except that the person who got to wear the mask, his/her turn is very short and the "shadow people", their turn is very very very long
To be fair this game was doomed to drag on for a while since the host underestimated the power of the light and discarded two of the obstructions at the start. Seems like everybody was bored 40 minutes in and just forcing themselves to keep playing because you know, "Everything is content....."
This game is so fine. The change in perspective in the video was, however, very confusing. In the top view, lantern man was on the right and the frozen shadowlings were on the top: in the front view, lantern man was on the left and the frozen shadowlings more downscreen.
Also, the game has a design flaw that makes it potentially infinite. A new rule that would block some paths or divert the lantern from the frozen shadowlings is kinda needed to prevent stalemate. It could be maybe a third player category (say, a Spirit of the Forest, or a Mother Nature something) or event (tree fall, rainstorm) that would side with the shadowlings by creating roadblocks, or maybe a lantern side quest, say refilling the lantern every some turns. Maybe a change in the rules in that the lantern cannot go back even in an intersection and must choose an advancing path would also help.
I love this game, I just have to find it to buy XD. Also, that's so cool to see another person with the same name as me (and same spelling too lol which is D'artagnan).
Hello I want just to know the shadowlings can move anywhere in the dark but they can move directly all in the same place no ? Or there are possible just to move one tree to one tree.? Second question for the seeker je can move or not around the table for see the shadowlings ? Thank you
Shadowlings can move in the on the board as much as they want, any way they want. The exceptions are: 1. they cannot touch the light, they will lose their mask and freeze upon the slightest contact 2. shadowlings only move on the ground, aka the board. A move is only legal if you can satisfy the conditions of exception #1 without the shadowling's feet being lifted off the board (theoretically.) 3. when the shadowlings' turn ends all masked shadowlings must be in a hiding spot
I would hate to be walking through a forest at night and having my flashlight catch those two peeking from behind a tree. Actually, even during the day they would freak me out
I was excited to see this game in play after watching the how to, but it got pretty boring very quick. Cool unique way of playing a game though I will say
I think the original version of this game (Waldschattenspiel) is a more rewarding version of this as the candle light is far weaker and the candle light is more unpredictable. I can see how this would be better to have with kids as there isn’t a problem with “accidents”
Ahh, but you have to factor in the greater chance of landing on a mossy stone from two rolls compared with one too, which makes things a lot more difficult for the Shadowlings. It's more about how unpredictable you can make your movement than how far you can move.
@@Pyr0blast Eh, I'm not so sure. You could land on a mossy stone from the first roll & getting another means you get a whole other shot (the actual probabilities depending on where you are on the board at the time). Another 1.5 moves with only one or two chances to hit moss would be less strategically valuable than 1.5 fewer moves but double the chance of moss I think, because the Shadowlings would need to try to predict where you'll go. If you moss it & then reverse your direction, that throws off the predictions the Shadowlings had in mind, which would further increase the risk of them being spotted (but, admittedly, only if your reversed move takes you back beyond your starting position). Landing on a three or four way junction at the end of the turn also means you could get a better idea of where they're likely to be by shutting down all three/four available avenues. This game's a lot more complex than it seems when you sit down & think about it.
I was wondering how they would film this with a game focused on being in the dark. I thought maybe a night vision setting on the camera, periodic check-ins with the lights on but Seeker's eyes closed, editing would circle where the Shadowlings are... But uh no none of that. We just experienced the game from the Seekers perspective. It was a weird Game the Game episode and this game is meant for children but it seems very easy to cheat in and it is because there really is no structure to the Shadowlings, they can do whatever they want
seems like a super easy game for the person with the light, all you gotta do is path back and forth between someone you've already revealed and you win. Seems like it would be a lot better if you couldn't just turn around on a following turn, otherwise all seems a bit lopsided for the light bearer. It's a shame, the games premise sounds cool but the second you get even a half competant light bearer the game becomes practically unwinnable once you loose a single shadowling unless you just want to draw the game out for a super long time making it more a frustrating than fun game. Oh well.
It could be solved just by implementing house rules. Say, you and your friends agree to not double back when playing the seeker, or make it so that each little shadowling can only move to an adjacent hiding place each turn. It's a really nice looking game, it's not too hard to tweak the rules to make it more enjoyable for your personal playstyle.
I don't get it. Why use mask? The light in the room doesn't change and they see their dudes and move them around, then the seeker gets his mask off in the same amount of light, so he supposed to see the same amount of things they see.. that's weird
First a game you in which you deface the components (made me cringe hardcore) and now a game played in the dark making it difficult to follow and filled with bad footage. This is not working for me. I had warmed up to this not being Table Top but perhaps ultimately isn't a show I can like. Different strokes as always.
@@ultigamer2004 To me it stinks of a marketing department taking sales figures (and possibly cost) over players well-being and replayability, as you said. A well-made and designed game would have given people a non-destructive means of altering cards like removable decays or erasable markers.
@@1LivingCuriously legacy stuff is ultimately a gimmick, just cleverly using campaign dungeons and dragons mentality on games....more for experience than anything else
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i could totally see this being played with a vr headset and a go pro/ web cam with a light on it. that way it actually make u feel like you are in the forest yourself.
I just bought this game. I’m planning on adding triangular tokens (leaf/leaves) that the spirits can add anywhere if they chose to stay put (choosing between moving or causing mischief). The seeker must use a move to remove the roadblock, but can use 1 collected leaf to reroll, or two to roll twice, discarding leaves after use.
My family and I made this game with card board, markers and a candle holder when I was a little. It's super fun!
Can save money :) for people with imagination !
Waldschattenspeil?
I essentially make a time limit (15-25 min depending on #shadowlings) for seekers to find all shadows or unmask 5-10 seperate masks within the time limit. If time runs out shadows win or shadows gather at one spot and win. That way the seeker doesnt stall and camp at unfrozen shadowlings. Also shadowlings have 20-30 sec to move only.
This game looks amazing, I am just wary about the honesty of the players who have to police themselves on their turn. It was nice seeing the crew call themselves out for passing through the light on their turn.
The animation reminds me of Over The Garden Wall meets Gravity Falls...
The Seeker looks like dipper pines but small and cute
What "animation"? Is there a cartoon I missed somewhere? Do you mean "illustration"?
I guess being part of the Shadowling team is remembering where did you hide them in the first place.
There needs to be a stalemate break rule in where the seeker can’t just keep going in a circle around frozen Shadowlings. Like if they touch the same mossy rock before touching four new ones, a Shadowling gets a mask back. Or something like that.
What you're suggesting doesn't have to be an official rule, you can implement it in your game play.
I realized once the first shadowling was discovered you could pretty much create a stalemate, by just circling it, because they can't win without un-freeing it so they have to get closer and then you'll probably get them all.
I was thinking the same thing. The Shadowlings would need a whole lot of luck with the searching party rolling very, very unfortunately to avoid that trap.
@@baka_yu9343 And it's what he did mostly, just circle. I also think if you just go back and forth down the center lane the shadowlings would be stuck because the light shines pretty good everywhere from the center out. Maybe different landscaping would thwart that.
Yeah, it's a fun idea but the game design seems wobbly overall. Plus it doesn't seem like the lamp bearer would have much fun at all, not having anyone to strategize with, being at the mercy of die rolls and constantly putting the mask on and off and getting blinded by the lamp. I wouldn't want to do this for an hour.
I think, played seriously, lots of games would last too long because running around is a losing strategy for seeker. We need additional rules to force seeker play more aggressively. A turn limit might be fine where after a certain amount of turns played, shadowlings gain some perks or maybe even the seeker loses. Well, this will of course cause shadowlings to play only defensively until they reach the turn limit so maybe we need some buff for the seeker to balance. In any case, game needs some more work for better playing experience.
It's kinda like playing certain tag variations that involve rescuing as a kid, sure the "it" can just guard the first catch and game never ends, sure that is the best strategy, but is it fun for anyone then? Nope and kids would play something else.
Would have been nice to have an overhead low light camera so we could see what was going on.
We bought the game for the components and implemented our own rules. We're also playing with a tea-candle (adult supervision of course) as this makes the shadows much crispier and easier for kids (and adults alike) to see and estimate where the shadow will move to (it also creates an almost magical atmosphere). Our shadowlings also use dice but will not move on rocks like the candle but use the spaces where the trees are on. Also, no circling a shadowling once it's frozen. Makes for a faster and more relaxing game. One should keep in mind that this is an implementation of a game invented in 1985. I feel like adapting this to ones house rules is fair game at this point. We like it (with adapted rules). Maybe this helps!
Like having the Metal Gear Red Exclamation Point Sound effect ready on hand.
Thank you very much Becca Scott. I have learned to play many games following you.
8:28 Dude really waited to raise his hand when his answer was "2 days ago" thinking he wouldn't have been in the running for 1st...
Shout out to the Tootsie Roll Pop Owl style counting! :)
This is so much like a board game version of freeze tag.
*Hide and seek
Fun game to play at a campground with kids. Also, I'm still convinced Becca is the cutest tabletop geek on the planet.
a government run by the eldest members is a Gerontocracy also this game seems lie the perfect one to play durring power failures
Hey what's the name of the 16:20 minute soundtrack?
Should we need a timer for shadowlings discuss? Yeah maybe just for me, bcs I got bored so fast and my friends will took forever to discuss
I agree
I kinda like the concept.. except that the person who got to wear the mask, his/her turn is very short and the "shadow people", their turn is very very very long
To be fair this game was doomed to drag on for a while since the host underestimated the power of the light and discarded two of the obstructions at the start. Seems like everybody was bored 40 minutes in and just forcing themselves to keep playing because you know, "Everything is content....."
This game is so fine. The change in perspective in the video was, however, very confusing. In the top view, lantern man was on the right and the frozen shadowlings were on the top: in the front view, lantern man was on the left and the frozen shadowlings more downscreen.
Also, the game has a design flaw that makes it potentially infinite. A new rule that would block some paths or divert the lantern from the frozen shadowlings is kinda needed to prevent stalemate.
It could be maybe a third player category (say, a Spirit of the Forest, or a Mother Nature something) or event (tree fall, rainstorm) that would side with the shadowlings by creating roadblocks, or maybe a lantern side quest, say refilling the lantern every some turns.
Maybe a change in the rules in that the lantern cannot go back even in an intersection and must choose an advancing path would also help.
Music on 16:30 ? pleeeeeeease
I love this game, I just have to find it to buy XD. Also, that's so cool to see another person with the same name as me (and same spelling too lol which is D'artagnan).
Hello
I want just to know the shadowlings can move anywhere in the dark but they can move directly all in the same place no ? Or there are possible just to move one tree to one tree.?
Second question for the seeker je can move or not around the table for see the shadowlings ? Thank you
Where could I find the music used during this? I would love to use for my gaming group!
Look for fantasy in yourube? there are apps that can find music :P
I've read the instructions, watched three videos, for the love of God I just need to see how shadowling moves work.
Same
Shadowlings can move in the on the board as much as they want, any way they want. The exceptions are:
1. they cannot touch the light, they will lose their mask and freeze upon the slightest contact
2. shadowlings only move on the ground, aka the board. A move is only legal if you can satisfy the conditions of exception #1 without the shadowling's feet being lifted off the board (theoretically.)
3. when the shadowlings' turn ends all masked shadowlings must be in a hiding spot
Can't they all just gather at one turn and win???? There's no time limit or amount of spaces theyre allowed or anything.
@@Sabia_Myre usually not the case because the light covers ALOT. But maybe right from the start?? This game is really flawed. Wish I never bought it.
@@Sabia_Myre just got this game and that was my first question with the gameplay, it can basically end in the first 30 seconds or so
How many shadowlings can you move on your turn
All of them
Animated Becca winked at me! :)
I would hate to be walking through a forest at night and having my flashlight catch those two peeking from behind a tree. Actually, even during the day they would freak me out
The guy hunting the shadowlings is tedious with his contestant stalling and taking too long to do a simple task
I was excited to see this game in play after watching the how to, but it got pretty boring very quick. Cool unique way of playing a game though I will say
Is the language of the Shadowlings called Shadowlingus?
27 minutes in didnt the light change direction to go backwards without hitting a mossy stone?
Shit about the elders consulting was hilarious. All the elder memes. XD 29:07 I would play this game.
I think the original version of this game (Waldschattenspiel) is a more rewarding version of this as the candle light is far weaker and the candle light is more unpredictable. I can see how this would be better to have with kids as there isn’t a problem with “accidents”
Where’s Betrayal Legacy Part 3?!?! Hahaha
I don't think this game is meant to be taken too seriously and it seems like harmless fun
But Geek & Sundry NEVER had rails!
is it just me or does the guy sound like Fred from big hero 6
This is an old Waldorf game. Played with a tea light
41:00 the last shadowling was in light
Rolling 1 is not the best you can hope for. Your mathematical expectation on the next roll is 3.5 so it is worth 4.5.
Ahh, but you have to factor in the greater chance of landing on a mossy stone from two rolls compared with one too, which makes things a lot more difficult for the Shadowlings. It's more about how unpredictable you can make your movement than how far you can move.
@@nightcatarts Good point! But it wouldn't make up for 1.5 movements so 6 would still be the best and 1 and 5 somehow close.
@@Pyr0blast Eh, I'm not so sure. You could land on a mossy stone from the first roll & getting another means you get a whole other shot (the actual probabilities depending on where you are on the board at the time). Another 1.5 moves with only one or two chances to hit moss would be less strategically valuable than 1.5 fewer moves but double the chance of moss I think, because the Shadowlings would need to try to predict where you'll go. If you moss it & then reverse your direction, that throws off the predictions the Shadowlings had in mind, which would further increase the risk of them being spotted (but, admittedly, only if your reversed move takes you back beyond your starting position). Landing on a three or four way junction at the end of the turn also means you could get a better idea of where they're likely to be by shutting down all three/four available avenues. This game's a lot more complex than it seems when you sit down & think about it.
The Elders have spoken.
This was terribly hard to watch.
Presbyarchy, for the record.
this game seems like it needs a fun mod to play with...
Possibly a movable path blockade
Alejandra in Geek & Sundry??? Is this real life??
If you watch the Alpha-exclusive series Sagas of Sundry: Madness, she's in one of the early episodes!
I was wondering how they would film this with a game focused on being in the dark. I thought maybe a night vision setting on the camera, periodic check-ins with the lights on but Seeker's eyes closed, editing would circle where the Shadowlings are... But uh no none of that. We just experienced the game from the Seekers perspective.
It was a weird Game the Game episode and this game is meant for children but it seems very easy to cheat in and it is because there really is no structure to the Shadowlings, they can do whatever they want
seems like a super easy game for the person with the light, all you gotta do is path back and forth between someone you've already revealed and you win. Seems like it would be a lot better if you couldn't just turn around on a following turn, otherwise all seems a bit lopsided for the light bearer. It's a shame, the games premise sounds cool but the second you get even a half competant light bearer the game becomes practically unwinnable once you loose a single shadowling unless you just want to draw the game out for a super long time making it more a frustrating than fun game. Oh well.
It could be solved just by implementing house rules. Say, you and your friends agree to not double back when playing the seeker, or make it so that each little shadowling can only move to an adjacent hiding place each turn. It's a really nice looking game, it's not too hard to tweak the rules to make it more enjoyable for your personal playstyle.
Can you play Elder Sign : Omens?
Game based on light 0:
I don't get it. Why use mask? The light in the room doesn't change and they see their dudes and move them around, then the seeker gets his mask off in the same amount of light, so he supposed to see the same amount of things they see.. that's weird
what is the age group of this game, Should go on the shelf with candyland, we want house of Betrayal or at least good games.
Ugh, Becca & Alcuin are kind of annoying...
Wow. This got boring fast.
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These people playing are so nerdy
Hm, cool hair.
Wow. This girl is so annoying. I miss TableTop. :'(
First a game you in which you deface the components (made me cringe hardcore) and now a game played in the dark making it difficult to follow and filled with bad footage. This is not working for me. I had warmed up to this not being Table Top but perhaps ultimately isn't a show I can like. Different strokes as always.
What game did they deface?
@@TheSniped117 Their last one Betrayal Legacy.
1LivingCuriously I actually liked the fact that Betrayal Legacy changes when played. What I don’t like is that it takes a lot of replayability away.
@@ultigamer2004 To me it stinks of a marketing department taking sales figures (and possibly cost) over players well-being and replayability, as you said. A well-made and designed game would have given people a non-destructive means of altering cards like removable decays or erasable markers.
@@1LivingCuriously legacy stuff is ultimately a gimmick, just cleverly using campaign dungeons and dragons mentality on games....more for experience than anything else
jebuz i thought the guy next to becca was a weird looking chick
Ok girls I cast removal of pants followed by impregnation