20:35 thankfully cm to mm is east (10 mm per cm). But the problem is they are clearly using some intuitive round inch measurement and then converting it to metric lol. This is all wild. How much deeper they go than PSA for whom each individual grade has so much more weight and market value attached. TCGPlayer going deep when it is most often cents or single dollars on the line.
Thanks for the comprehensive review. Greatly appreciate your efforts. Although I am not at the volume to do Direct, it is good to see their threshold and requirements in order to improve my own standards.
No matter how they rate it because they think that is normal damage from manufacturing...if I see a card with some white from the cardboard against black then to me it is not mint no matter how tcgplayer or the seller wants to claim it is from manufacturing. This is because there is no way then to differenciate normal wear from manufacturing. If the blade was dull when cutting then the card is not mint to me and I would return it. Grading companies are not going to start lowering the standards simply because manufacturers cut costs on quality control.
This is great information and good news for sellers...but as a buyer I might be pissed if I buy a near mint card and get a booster fresh factory messed up cards. How does TCGPlayer deal with unhappy customers in cases like that?
As sellers we’ve been begging for some form of upgraded shipping. Incremental shipping, tracked pwe, or something better than what we have. We’ve had payments postponed time and time again. We’ve had instances of inventory not showing up on particular cards but the ones listed above market weren’t affected. 😳 and so far all we’ve gotten is captured data of listings and prices which is just pulled from their own available data. I understand that I “don’t understand how complex this platform is” but I’m not in that game I’m in the selling card game. My background in efficiency in manufacturing and fulfillment centers helped me form processes in this business. With the experiences I’ve had with tcgp I’m actually impressed that they’re one of the top market places in tcgs. I’m just flustered that after they were acquired by eBay that their implementation of technology has been lackluster at best.
What kind of technology do you want to see them use? You mean computer vision or lasers for conditioning, or just a better website in general (i.e. the stuff you mentioned with shipping) I think in order to offer shipping that scales with order size, etc the cart optimizer would probably need to be completely rebuilt to account for it. Which I'm guessing is a very big ask. Tracked Envelopes could make it out regardless of course.
Really makes me wonder how, objectively, how can the difference be told between a rough cut and edgewear? Its easy to answer if i pack it fresh, but my buyers wont know that. Idk. Id still probably heir on the side of caution for my stuff.
12:55 I can't believe to hear this. That is a joke in my opinion. These cards are damaged or in your words indeed at least Light played. Everything I consider damaged I will still not sell as near mint. I also can't believe you want to sell these cards as Nm and just say: Well, "TCG player said so,, or "This is just how it is,, I really can't believe it. You explained it really well, these cards are Light Played indeed by the point system law. I don't think there should be made exceptions. That is a really huge L for near mint collectors. I can bump 80% of my inventory to mint condition and grade all 9's and 10's if all your examples are NM and I just can't do that.
Sadly these are the times we live in where cards already come damaged out of the pack. Due to this being considered he "normal condition" we may now call it "NM" even though everyone grading cards disagrees. That makes true NM/MT cards just so much rarer for many of the big products. This new thing just masks crap cards into NM because buyers want to buy "NM" without knowing what that is in "TCG player 2024" condition.
No offense guy but cards are cut 100x times better today than 20 years ago. Go look at darksteel or fifth dawn for magic or ex era for pokemon. Pack fresh cards consistently come out worst quality.
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Waiting for the tsunami of returns due to NM cards with rough factory-cut edges😬
Exactly. Policy won't change customer expectations.
20:35 thankfully cm to mm is east (10 mm per cm). But the problem is they are clearly using some intuitive round inch measurement and then converting it to metric lol. This is all wild. How much deeper they go than PSA for whom each individual grade has so much more weight and market value attached. TCGPlayer going deep when it is most often cents or single dollars on the line.
Yeah I can’t imagine the process if they actually hold the standard that stringent
Clarification on the rough/dull cuts is massive. 3/4 of my inventory can likely be bumped up now if I wanted to go through it.
With MTG I noticed lesser card conditions typically have a higher market price than NM so it might be better just to leave them the way they are.
Thanks for the comprehensive review. Greatly appreciate your efforts. Although I am not at the volume to do Direct, it is good to see their threshold and requirements in order to improve my own standards.
12:15 could someone alert PSA of this revelation
No matter how they rate it because they think that is normal damage from manufacturing...if I see a card with some white from the cardboard against black then to me it is not mint no matter how tcgplayer or the seller wants to claim it is from manufacturing. This is because there is no way then to differenciate normal wear from manufacturing. If the blade was dull when cutting then the card is not mint to me and I would return it. Grading companies are not going to start lowering the standards simply because manufacturers cut costs on quality control.
NEAR Mint is not Mint! ;)
@@factor4423 Grading starts with Near Mint not Mint.
This is great information and good news for sellers...but as a buyer I might be pissed if I buy a near mint card and get a booster fresh factory messed up cards. How does TCGPlayer deal with unhappy customers in cases like that?
As sellers we’ve been begging for some form of upgraded shipping. Incremental shipping, tracked pwe, or something better than what we have. We’ve had payments postponed time and time again. We’ve had instances of inventory not showing up on particular cards but the ones listed above market weren’t affected. 😳 and so far all we’ve gotten is captured data of listings and prices which is just pulled from their own available data. I understand that I “don’t understand how complex this platform is” but I’m not in that game I’m in the selling card game. My background in efficiency in manufacturing and fulfillment centers helped me form processes in this business. With the experiences I’ve had with tcgp I’m actually impressed that they’re one of the top market places in tcgs. I’m just flustered that after they were acquired by eBay that their implementation of technology has been lackluster at best.
What kind of technology do you want to see them use? You mean computer vision or lasers for conditioning, or just a better website in general (i.e. the stuff you mentioned with shipping)
I think in order to offer shipping that scales with order size, etc the cart optimizer would probably need to be completely rebuilt to account for it. Which I'm guessing is a very big ask. Tracked Envelopes could make it out regardless of course.
How much did wotc pay TCGplayer for the Edgewear bit? What a joke lol.
We don’t do direct. This seems exhausting. 😅
Spend an hour conditioning a card and someone lists it for .03.
Really makes me wonder how, objectively, how can the difference be told between a rough cut and edgewear? Its easy to answer if i pack it fresh, but my buyers wont know that. Idk. Id still probably heir on the side of caution for my stuff.
I foresee you'll need a Roca for making conditioning precisely in the future or else their AI overlords will tell you that you're wrong.
so comprehensive a guideline, other than cna and a few others, who will follow it?
12:55 I can't believe to hear this. That is a joke in my opinion. These cards are damaged or in your words indeed at least Light played. Everything I consider damaged I will still not sell as near mint. I also can't believe you want to sell these cards as Nm and just say: Well, "TCG player said so,, or "This is just how it is,, I really can't believe it. You explained it really well, these cards are Light Played indeed by the point system law. I don't think there should be made exceptions. That is a really huge L for near mint collectors. I can bump 80% of my inventory to mint condition and grade all 9's and 10's if all your examples are NM and I just can't do that.
I wouldn’t trust them on that rough cut thing…
If customers stop buying from a seller because the condition does not match what they expect, "but TCGPlayer said it was ok" won't matter.
If as a customer you're splitting hairs on card conditions, you might have a condition yourself.
@@MrMADMADHATTER1 You may be right, but when has telling a customer "you may have a condition" convinced him or her to give a seller money?
Ain't nobody got time for that
let me pull an allnighter measuring all my $0.25 cards using this comprehensive guide, TCGPlayer is a joke
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Sadly these are the times we live in where cards already come damaged out of the pack. Due to this being considered he "normal condition" we may now call it "NM" even though everyone grading cards disagrees. That makes true NM/MT cards just so much rarer for many of the big products.
This new thing just masks crap cards into NM because buyers want to buy "NM" without knowing what that is in "TCG player 2024" condition.
No offense guy but cards are cut 100x times better today than 20 years ago. Go look at darksteel or fifth dawn for magic or ex era for pokemon. Pack fresh cards consistently come out worst quality.
Sucks how hard u have to work to satisfy these dumb demands from TCGplayer