At 49:35 you show a sketch where you explain the problem with the wrap feature when used to produce a 4th axis geometry. I'd like to share my thoughts on that and any feedback is welcome. Questions: 1) The situation you are describing is something I've seen happen in 3 axis live-tooling lathes. That is lathes with an X, Z and C axis capabilities. It's exactly the same thing as locking the Y-axis in a 4-axes mill and trying to reproduce the feature with the X and A axes. And when that code was posted, it is obvious that that's what's happening because there are no Y axis motions in the code for the pocket. So it's basically 3 axes working there. But that makes me think a bit (--> Q2) 2) If you setup the 2D adaptive or contour so as to output a G17 G41 or G42 code (depending on milling used), wouldn't that leverage the machine's controller to solve that issue??? Not tried it and don't have access to a machine anymore to try it... :(
at the end of the segment where there is a presentation of the tool gouging a wrap feature. this is assumes the cutter centerline intersects the part rotation axis. to cut this feature shown its surface is rotated to be parallel the the z-axis. then tool just needs to be offset by its radius. is this not a typical cutter comp scenerio? are you stating that HSMWorks cannot compensate for cutter diameter in 4-axis?
Exactly! They don't support that right now, however you can leave extra stock in the adaptive toolpath and do swarf cuts to clean the walls up. this is what i do! i wish they would figure something out so that the adaptives will offset the tool after creating space for it to do so that way it cuts down on the number of swarf cuts needed.
A comment was made about not having the origin automatically on sketches. Inventor has a feature under Options/Sketch/ Autoproject part origin on sketch create. If the check box is marked, the origin point is automatically added to all new sketches.
Thank you for the great video! I was trying to follow along in SolidWorks but "wrap toolpath" does not seem to exist there. I was hoping that you guys were developing the software concurrently for Inventor, Fusion and SolidWorks, but it seems development of HSM for SolidWorks is falling behind. Is this a trend that will continue? I hope not. Another feature HSMWorks currently lacks is the ability to let the user select a hollow cylinder when selecting stock. I had to make a cylindrical body and use that. Also, the origin and orientation is much more simple in Inventor. Is that something that will be coming to HSMWorks? I use various software platforms, including Inventor and SolidWorks. One thing I like was how similar the HSM was for each. I hope it will stay that way. Thanks, Matt
I just ordered HSMWorks Pro for the 4-axis capability which thanks to this video i now see the wrap functionality is missing. I have not received my license yet but am told i get Inventor and Fusion Ultimate which should have the wrap feature. I went with HSMWorks mainly because Solidworks model changes do not propagate to Fusion and i wanted a single CAD and integrated CAM system. Now it looks like i need 2 CAD systems. Pretty disappointing if this is the case.
At 49:35 you show a sketch where you explain the problem with the wrap feature when used to produce a 4th axis geometry.
I'd like to share my thoughts on that and any feedback is welcome.
Questions:
1) The situation you are describing is something I've seen happen in 3 axis live-tooling lathes. That is lathes with an X, Z and C axis capabilities. It's exactly the same thing as locking the Y-axis in a 4-axes mill and trying to reproduce the feature with the X and A axes. And when that code was posted, it is obvious that that's what's happening because there are no Y axis motions in the code for the pocket. So it's basically 3 axes working there. But that makes me think a bit (--> Q2)
2) If you setup the 2D adaptive or contour so as to output a G17 G41 or G42 code (depending on milling used), wouldn't that leverage the machine's controller to solve that issue??? Not tried it and don't have access to a machine anymore to try it... :(
at the end of the segment where there is a presentation of the tool gouging a wrap feature. this is assumes the cutter centerline intersects the part rotation axis. to cut this feature shown its surface is rotated to be parallel the the z-axis. then tool just needs to be offset by its radius. is this not a typical cutter comp scenerio? are you stating that HSMWorks cannot compensate for cutter diameter in 4-axis?
Exactly! They don't support that right now, however you can leave extra stock in the adaptive toolpath and do swarf cuts to clean the walls up. this is what i do! i wish they would figure something out so that the adaptives will offset the tool after creating space for it to do so that way it cuts down on the number of swarf cuts needed.
How do you make the swarf tool path work with 4 axis? when i have played with it, it seems to be 5 axis only?
A comment was made about not having the origin automatically on sketches.
Inventor has a feature under Options/Sketch/ Autoproject part origin on sketch create.
If the check box is marked, the origin point is automatically added to all new sketches.
Thank you for the great video! I was trying to follow along in SolidWorks but "wrap toolpath" does not seem to exist there. I was hoping that you guys were developing the software concurrently for Inventor, Fusion and SolidWorks, but it seems development of HSM for SolidWorks is falling behind. Is this a trend that will continue? I hope not. Another feature HSMWorks currently lacks is the ability to let the user select a hollow cylinder when selecting stock. I had to make a cylindrical body and use that. Also, the origin and orientation is much more simple in Inventor. Is that something that will be coming to HSMWorks?
I use various software platforms, including Inventor and SolidWorks. One thing I like was how similar the HSM was for each. I hope it will stay that way.
Thanks,
Matt
Yes Matt, I have been holding back my purchase of HSMworks due to the lag in advancement in the software. So I feel your pain Matt.
I just ordered HSMWorks Pro for the 4-axis capability which thanks to this video i now see the wrap functionality is missing. I have not received my license yet but am told i get Inventor and Fusion Ultimate which should have the wrap feature. I went with HSMWorks mainly because Solidworks model changes do not propagate to Fusion and i wanted a single CAD and integrated CAM system. Now it looks like i need 2 CAD systems. Pretty disappointing if this is the case.
Hello , Why the wrapping feature is not avaliable in hsmworks for solidwork ?
Thanks for the great session
It is in now.
I just updated to HSM 2018 Ultimate for SW and this feature is still missing...
How do you wrap the around the body when you extrude in fusion360 ? I could not do it using project in sketch mode.
Hello
I can use fusion 360 for plasma 4 axis head i mean no rotary plasma